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Vincent
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Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2013 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

In Contact Report 463 Billy and Ptaah are talking about a planet called Seritan where only females inhabit the planet by choice and as a result where there are only female births. At the end of the CR it says that the entire world of women lives by the creational laws and recommendation as they have been passed down from Nokodemion.

My question is does this mean that all or most of the females on this planet must be lesbians in order to fulfill their sexual desires and want for partnerships?

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_463
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Justsayno
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Posted on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Vincent, the answer is yes. But if you look at the bigger picture, they no longer have wars. I am a heterosexual and live in a world of wars and warmongering. If given the choice between the two, what would you do? Personally I would probably turn gay :-)
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Smukhuti
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Posted on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That would be the natural conclusion.
Everything comes to us that belongs to us if we create the capacity to receive it - Rabindranath Tagore
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Vincent
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Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Justsayno,

Thanks for your response to my question!

I think I would choose to do the same thing as you if given the choice to live in a peaceful and better world.
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Abdiel
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Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A planet filled of women!?

How can they reproduce?
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Marbar
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Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2014 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it possible for a person to marry his/her first and only girl/boyfriend?

For example, a 30 year-old man meeting and marry his first and only girlfriend.
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Jacob
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes of course, why not?
It certainly can happen, and does occur.
Salome,
Jacob

As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Blake_p
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Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Abdiel,
Technology, and in super rare cases two women can spontaneously procreate.
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Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 02:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Blake_p

You mentioned: ("Technology, and in super rare cases two women can spontaneously procreate.")

Are you suggesting there have been rare cases of two different women spontaneously procreating? or, are you suggesting a thought, of two women spontaneously procreating? Because if you are thinking of two women getting together to perform a rare spontaneous procreation, then it might serve you well to understand that this is not how it works.
-Melissa
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Blake_p
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Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa,

Yes thank you for the unneeded sex education.

Billy has said this,about two women, or a woman alone spontaneously procreating,like I said,in super rare cases.

And if there is a planet with all women,how do you suppose they have kids without technologically assisted pregnancies. Seems like the only way to me.
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Melissa
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Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My point was to correct the information you were suggesting. My point was not to educate you sexually, but to align any self-generated thoughts of (two women getting together) more towards the scientific aspect of this process. It takes only 1 woman for this rare occurrence, or in the case of planet Seratin, it takes science.

41.26-31
Mental procreation" and Artificial impregnation -
An exception to the normal form of procreation is mental procreation, which is a very seldom occurrence.

Contact Report 463
Ptaah:
103. All over that planet, which is named Seritan, there are no male human beings, rather actually only female.
104. And that they bear descendants in spite of that is because, already, for more than 1,600 years, they have developed spermatozoa from stem cells, with which they fertilize themselves, and thereby bring about descendants.
105. With the successful development of the spermatozoa, only spermatozoa which guarantee female offspring are selected to use for procreation.

If a plant full of only women, have no technology to perform such, as explained above, then it most likely means no procreation.
-Melissa
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Truthseeker
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Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as I know, they have a technology on the planet of Seritan where the women can procreate with each other with something called Spermatozoa, or similar name, and I don't think men are allowed on this world regardless, not even Ptaah, Quetzal, or even Billy, etc. One can only imagine then that despite the consequence of a defective emotional aggression gene as is with the people of Earth, the men on their world must have been pretty bad dudes.
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Patm
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Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI (unauthorized English translation from the original German text - may contain errors)by me.

from the OM Kanon 24:140

140. Und es ist gegeben durch die Führung der Schöpfung, dass das Weib ist das Gebärende und also das Zeugende auch zur zeit der not, wenn da ist Mangel am Manne, so das Weib vermöge zu begatten und zu befruchten den eigenen Leib als auch den Leib eines anderen Weibes, wenn sich zusammentuet Weib und Weib in Zeiten der Not zur Befruchtung und Begattung.

140. And it is given through the guidance of the Creation, that the woman is the bearer(birth-giver) and also the procreator in time of necessity, when there is a lack of man, thus the woman is able to copulate with and to fertilize her own body as also the body of another woman, if woman and woman get together in times of necessity for fertilization and copulation.

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Salome
PatM
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"...the men on their world must have been pretty bad dudes."
- James

Or the women were. Either way, the two species didn't get along too well.

Talk about a crazed planet: Seritan must very equal, very democratic, very manipulable. I do wonder if those women will ever want to reintroduce the male gender back into their reincarnational lifecycle, else once they dispensed with it their civilization never again values the masculine perspective. No matter their technology, I suspect in present form it will be a relatively short lived civilization.

Z ultimate prejudice: Men... Huh! Can't live with 'em, so who needs 'em?
Life
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Blake_p
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Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes to think that they left their home planet to colonize another planet and they use stem cells etc and they have no technology mase no sense. That is why in my original post I said technology since that would be the only way for them to have offspring. Not to mention that if they have descendants and they are all women,it seems that they would need technology to manipulate the egg to stay female all the time.

Also why I mentioned the spontaneous procreation, is that's why it is said in the material that it is naturally(nature)lawful for two women to be together and against nature for two men to be together since they can obviously never procreate.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2014 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if what they are doing is against 'The Laws of Love' and offends against the directive to confine themselves to one gender only.
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Melissa
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2014 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Pat,

To clarify a word in your translation, I am offering my translation of the German text. (instead of copulate, it should be produce.)

140. Und es ist gegeben durch die Führung der Schöpfung, dass das Weib ist das Gebärende und also das Zeugende auch zur zeit der not, wenn da ist Mangel am Manne, so das Weib vermöge zu begatten und zu befruchten den eigenen Leib als auch den Leib eines anderen Weibes, wenn sich zusammentuet Weib und Weib in Zeiten der Not zur Befruchtung und Begattung.

140. And it is given, by the guidance of the Creation, that the woman is to be the bearer and also is to be the begetter (thus it is so) for the time of necessity, when there is the lack of man, thus the woman is able to produce and fertilize her own body as well as also the body of another woman, when woman and woman get together in times of necessity to fertilize and to produce.
-Melissa
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Patm
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Posted on Monday, April 07, 2014 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa,

Thank you for your suggestion.

I was using the root German word: begatten

from the FIGU dictionary:
begatten (befruchten/schwängern)
copulate with (fertilise/impregnate)

Salome
PatM
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Melissa
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Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_463

Ptaah:
102. Was dir meine Tochter sagte, ist richtig.
102. That which my daughter said to you is right.
103. Auf jenem Planeten rundum, Seritan wird er genannt, gibt es keine männliche Menschen, sondern tatsächlich nur weibliche.
103. All over that planet, which is named Seritan, there are no male human beings, rather actually only female.
104. Und dass sie trotzdem Nachkommen gebären liegt daran, dass sie schon seit mehr als 1600 Jahren aus Stammzellen Spermien heranwachsen lassen, mit denen sie sich dann selbst befruchten und also Nachkommen zeugen.
104. And that they bear descendents in spite of that is because, already, for more than 1,600 years, they have developed spermatozoa from stem cells, with which they fertilise themselves, and thereby bring about descendents.
105. Bei der erfolgten Entwicklung der Spermien erfolgt eine Auslese resp. eine Selektion, um nur Spermien zur Zeugung zu benutzen, bei denen eine weibliche Nachkommenschaft gewährleistet ist.
105. With the successful development of the spermatozoa, only spermatozoa which guarantee female offspring are selected to use for procreation.

Billy:
Und da kann tatsächlich bereits das Geschlecht der Nachkommenschaft bestimmt werden?
And can the gender of the offspring actually already be thereby determined?

Ptaah:
106. Das ist richtig.
106. That is right.

Billy:
Dann werden also tatsächlich nur weibliche Wesen geboren auf jenem Planeten, Seritan, sagtest du?
Then are you saying that in fact only females are, therefore, born on the planet Seritan?

Ptaah:
107. Ja.
107. Yes.

Billy:
Und wie kam es, dass die dortigen Frauen zu dieser Praktik kamen?
And how did it come to be that the women there arrived at this practice?

Ptaah:
108. Die Männerwelt war sehr gewalttätig gegen die weibliche Welt, auch führten sie dauernd blutige Kriege und schürten mit allen Mitteln den Unfrieden.
108. The world of men was very gewalttätig[1] towards the world of women, and also constantly led bloody wars and stirred up strife with all possible means.
109. Das wurde den Frauen letztendlich zuviel, folglich sie Mittel und Wege fanden in der genannten Art, damit sie nur noch weibliche Nachkommen zur Geburt brachten.
109. Finally that was too much for the women, consequently they found means and ways, in the manner I have mentioned, whereby they gave birth only to female offspring.
110. So kam es, dass es immer weniger Männer gab und diese letztlich ausstarben.
110. So it came to be that there were fewer and fewer men, and they finally died out.

Billy:
Und sicher führen die Frauen dort ein gutes und friedliches Leben, nehme ich an.
And I assume that the women there certainly live a good and peaceful life.

Ptaah:
111. Auch das ist richtig, was nicht zuletzt darauf zurückzuführen ist, dass die ganze Frauenwelt nach den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten lebt, wie sie von Nokodemion überliefert sind.
111. That is also right, which can be attributed, not in the least, to the fact that the entire world of women lives by the creational laws and recommendation as they have been passed down from Nokodemion.

-Melissa
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Jedaiah
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Posted on Friday, April 11, 2014 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Better watch it boys, those females may have some tricks up their sleeves! Oddly enough, I did write of an all-female civilization in one of my older scripts. Impulses? Either way, it's always a pleasure to see confirmation of these thoughts when i look over Meier material.
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Darren
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott,

You just posted this question to Billy (which won't be answered until June).

"Dear Billy,

If I understand what the Plejarens and you have stated that real or true love does not exist on earth between human beings. I understand there are many types of love, but real lasting love is not something humans are capable of at this time.

Since and if this is the case, how are humans supposed to behave towards each other, especially when entering into committed relationships, when real love is missing?"



Firstly good question to Billy!

Maybe this isn't a question for you but just saying what's on my mind. What about Billy's love for his wife when he married her? Surely, from Billy's end at least, it was real/true love he had for her considering he is (wisest) prophet?

But then again, I remember Billy saying that Sfath or Asket told him that if he were to marry this girl he would begin the mission not matter what. So maybe Billy didn't have real/true love for his wife? I don't know and I don't think Billy would reveal his private affairs either.

I do wonder though how long before real/true love will start to exist on Earth between us Earth worms?
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Vincent
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Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2014 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe thousands of years.
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Corey
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Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe: Here is the table of contents for the book "Gesetz der Liebe":

-law of love page 1
-what is love? page 4
-love page 13
-love-forms page 16
-interpretative approach through philosophers and scientists page 22
-love and love-forms in the history of culture page 25
-the situation of imagination of love and love-forms in the twentieth century page 30
-love-development page 32
-the speed (velocity) of love and feelings page 35
-swinging-waves of the human-beings page 38
-courtship page 41
-to love page 47
-false love page 48
-bond-love page 51
-the following is said about each recommendation(s) in the law of love page 73
-law of engagements page 79
-law of weddings page 82
-law of rights page 84
-law of determination page 95
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-Gesetz der Liebe Seite 1
-Was ist Liebe Seite 4
-Liebe Seite 13
-Liebe-Formen Seite 16
-Deutungsversuch durch Philosphen und Wissenschaftler Seite 22
-Liebe und Liebeformen in der Kulturegeschichte Seite 25
-Die Situation der Vorstellung über Liebe und Liebeformen im 20. Jahrhundert Seite 30
-Liebe-Entwicklung Seite 32
-Liebe resp. Gefühlsgeschwindigkeit Seite 35
-Schwingungen des Menschen Seite 38
Verliebtsein Seite 41
-Lieben Seite 47
-Falsche Liebe Seite 48
-Bündnisliebe Seite 51
-Die einzelnen Gebote im Gesetz der Liebe besagen folgendes Seite 73
-Gesetz des Verlöbnisses Seite 79
-Gesetz der Eheschliessung Seite 82
-Gesetz des Rechtes Seite 84
-Gesetz der Bestimmung Seite 95
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Translation of table of contents from Corey, from the book: "Gesetz der Liebe" copyright FIGU/BEAM -FIGU dictionary used whenever possible, may contain errors.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216

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