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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 739
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 08:20 pm: | 
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> I think the Might of the Thoughts and the Psyche are the best books in English that include invaluable information about such things.
You may also want to check out my Consciousness Workshop DVD, for a step-by-step mind/body process. |
Celesco
Member
Post Number: 62
Registered: 01-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 12:20 pm: |
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Thanks, guys, for your suggestions. Anthony (Magic_pie) had also suggested the book 'the Might of Thoughts' to me in another subsection of the forum, but it is nice to know that this book in particular will be able to address feelings in particular, as well. Two birds, one stone and all that. |
Billwilson12
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 09:49 pm: |
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Michael I just received your workshop DVD in from the mail Thank you for the rush. I am 52 year male whom just had my awaken just weeks ago and I believe that since my trigger was from place of ture heart/mind and spirt LOVE, I have nothing but great feelings in that reguard. So much so I can not even watch TV now for the strong negative images being transmitted. Reading for knowledge is great but the mind block can take in images much faster. On the internet, TV and in print one must stay focused on the light side of what is being seen. It requires a lot effort to remember a ICON can mean a lot to those with real/tunnel vision. And while waiting for your awaking try to stay with the light most TV images are dark in nature an should be avoilded if possible.
With Love
123 OM |
Learningtruth
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2013
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 07:58 am: |
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Hello everyone,
I am new on here but have been studying the teachings for a few years and am a 25 year old male trying to recover from health issues and emotional as well.
I'd love to have people to talk to on the phone or locally (Atlanta area in Georiga). I have not known anyone as interested in Billy's spirit teachings and information as I am. I would love to share my understandings and learn other peoples to help me evolve consciously.
And if anyone has any advice or links about what can help me gain self discipline, worth and release anxiety and depression, that would be appreciated. And any information from Billy's Psyche and Might of Thoughts would be helpful since I haven't got them yet.
Thank you! |
Learningtruth
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2013
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 08:04 am: |
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I didn't know if my posts should be in another topic since I want to find local people in Atlanta or anyone anywhere else who could talk on the phone. But since the main focus of my request is about discussing thinking and thoughts in general about Billy's teachings I hope its okay. I'm new to this so ready to learn how to use the forum better.
I hope to talk to anyone on the phone later today! I'll check back here in a few hours. Can we privately share email or phone info? I've been nervous about posting on here for a while from my insecurities that came up after being home sick for over 3 years. Going to go work on a organic vegetable farm for a short time now to help my well being. My second time this week! I love Billy's Mission and want to help it as much as possible in my life. I'm going to try returning to college this spring in my psychology major. I hope I can serve the mission and become a psychologist. That's good right?
I want to understand about intuitive guidance more. Is it good to get words in our mind to guid us from our inner wisdom or is that the god delusion stuff? My mom seems to get very accurate psychic guidance for me but I think the teachings say not to use that at all right? I stopped using Oracle cards, chakras and listening to angel channelings etc. though. |
Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 326
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 05:38 am: |
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Billwilson12, Learningtruth
Good to have you here.
I haven't watched TV for over 10 years nor have I listened to popular radio stations. Enjoying nature and working outdoors replaced all of that rubbish and helped thinking by yourself.
If you may find it useful then pay attention and screen carefully information provided to you. There is only one truth and if you want you can determine reality not by belief or faith or nice words but through logic. You can realize what is it that you need for your progress through correct thinking and acting.
Learningtruth - even if you have zero books and no money there are materials available on dedicated websites which can help you get started. I find it useful not only to study but also to study through work. And it's surprising just how much improvement can anyone achieve even just by maintenance work around the house and in the yard. This also ensures contact with people which combined with daily effort and achieving small goals could be excellent remedy for depression, bad mood, etc.
Non or very little progress is not a problem anymore when creativity and self-strive for improvement is practiced.
Salome |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 822
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 05:50 am: |
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Hi learningtruth welcome and I hope you have an enjoyable and enlightening spiritual journey here
Matt Lee |
Billwilson12
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 01:27 pm: |
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Michael spent the nite with your DVD thanks for the jest at end. This is a great starter/primer I am needing a hint / push to higher control point than going from 5 to 6th but to 9. Dear Atlanta Find a recliner and soft pillows make yourself as comfortable as possible. Now with your eyes closed place you mind in a mall noise people and all listen to the buuz. Now walk to the end of this place find a straight stairway down as you are going down start counting to your heart beat going down doing 123 om watch for a glass wall and door to a wonderful white beach on the other side, slow you pace 123 om slightly in you minds eye walk out on to white sand, slowing a little more your pace. Find where the blue ocean water line is and lye down with your feet just a the edge of the tide. Relax into the warm sand feel its warmth against you flesh. Slow down you count 123 OM now the warm tide can start to slowly come in let yourself float still slowing down 123 OM, go to sleep if you must or just enjoy the ride. When you can do this awake, standing up with eyes wide open, find your local freemason lodge in the front you will find a square with their square an compass symbol stand there!!* energy point for creation, start the above exercise the flow of LOVE should blow you away. start looking for your signs and do not rush learn to control.
Know one will believe you but keep love and respect in your heart and go back and play when can. The temples are mostly empty here where I am remember be nice. They do not even come near me when I do this. Remember lead with wisdom once you find your path.
With the greatest of LOVE
123 OM |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 503
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 07:13 pm: |
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Learningtruth,
Learning to use your own intuitive guidance is important and can be brought to fruition by the might of your thoughts (see Billy's book translation: "the Might of the Thoughts"). There will be a translation coming out of Billy's book "God-delusion, God-insanity" but I'm not sure when exactly. It's good you are no longer using Oracle cards, and staying away from angel "channelings", (definitely god-delusion stuff), it is best to get guidance from your inner self which is linked to your true creational nature. The more you study the material the closer it brings you to that creational nature of yourself and the more in line you start to live with the laws and recommendations of Creation, which is what consciousness-based evolution is based on.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Learningtruth
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 08:40 am: |
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Ferberon, Matt Lee, Billwilson12, and Corey,
Thank you for your responses! Sorry for the late reply; I've been having a lot of trouble lately with my mental and physical health.
Trying to recover from Lyme but in a cycle of keeping myself sick with diet, not going to bed early and feeling guilty. Maybe not wanting to get well subconsciously?
Ferberon - Thanks, I will keep up with the free materials for now then. And I need to watch less TV! But kind of addicted I guess since been out of school and at home sick for 3 years. Need to motivate to do more work and take better care of health. And stop resisting being social too.
Matt Lee - Thank you! I hope to gain insight and advice on how to use the teachings to heal my issues keeping me sick and increase my knowledge and understanding. Is this the best section to post? Any advice?
Billwilson12 - Thanks for the interesting meditation. That definitely isn't from Billy's stuff right? You say Freemason lodge?
Corey - I can't wait to get those books when I can. Why is Might of Thoughts 66 dollars? Translation cost a lot? Thanks for the advice! So the words in my mind are my inner wisdom that's relative to my consciousness evolution right? Like, I go to start to do something and get "No" in my mind. Like taking a supplement and then I think maybe its because its not what my body needs now. And I can sit and ask what to do about things and see the words. This is because I've always wanted to use psychic abilities right and developed it? Could it ever be subconscious negative thoughts affecting me? Like is it better to use logic than trust my inner guidance? Inner psychic ability vs inner logic? I ask my mom to ask her guidance for me everyday and I know its not in line the the spirit teachings but I'm like addicted and feel inadequate to make my own decisions a lot!
Best wishes to all!
Salome! Peace! |
Learningtruth
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 08:45 am: |
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Does anyone know how to stop food addiction? And increase self discipline to go to bed early etc.?
Anyone please help me understand how to use my consciousness power and increase its strength. I'm quite fatigued each day and having trouble doing much good for myself to improve. Even going to overeaters anonymous (when they say higher power I think my consciousness right? or Creation in me, but not spirit?) Should I pray to my spirit almighty or just trust that I can ask my consciousness and will receive?
What tools are most important of these or besides these:
Is the 77 meditative foundation most important? Walking barefoot on grass, positive day dreams, smiling, silly songs to self, Mein Geist prayer, Seventh Spirit Teaching prayer by Nokodemion, 12 point Meditation, daily work outdoors (what my health can handle), calling a supporter, writing out feelings?, meditation(with candle concentration exercise?)and what other kinds are best? feeling for others, analytical, insight?
Can anyone talk on the phone? or live in Atlanta?
Is this too many questions for one post or topic area?
Thanks! |
Melissa
Member
Post Number: 103
Registered: 01-2012
| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2013 - 06:58 am: |
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Hello Learningtruth,
The first place to start would be to:
1) Pray to yourself (as in think, discuss, realize truths - about yourself(with yourself)).
2) Start with just 5 minutes a day of (Concentration Meditation) = clear all thoughts in your mind, relax, and continually try to have no thought for 5 minutes.
3) Create a positive relationship with yourself. (Thoughts to self = Do I even like myself? What do I like about myself? How can I learn to bring more balance into my thinking about myself and my life? etc.)
These three things are a suggestion from me, as to how to get started. (Just started)
Much Care,
Melissa
-Melissa
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Rosemarie
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2013 - 03:24 pm: |
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Positive day dreams surely not. Ive been into that for long time and put me no place. Its just served as fastest escape from reality to protect the "I" or ego-self. however unfortunately, our ego self is always the last standing enemy, always. And often we do not recognize it.
Me too cant yet understand this inner ego self. Why so, because i completely lack initiative to do so. But now the only happy thing bout it is I know my problem, i just need to start dig deeper to deepest |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 849
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 11:11 pm: |
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Hi All
A thought had occurred for me for sometime and I would like to know what you guys and girls think
In terms of mountains of information out there both true and false about this shadowy international cabal of corporate kleptocracy Billy refer to as the group within a group that is not necessarily mainstream government, secret service, corporate, institutional and military, It begets the question many conspiracy theorists refer to this group as the 'illuminati' or 'new world order' about how many of these people that comprise it are psychopathic.
I mean just the nature of how people can be so divorced from their own conscience to such an extent that they can literally justify to themselves that all means justifies the end even if tens of thousands are killed in the process by their decisions and actions.
If they were the ones who were being tortured and their limbs cut off with a pen knife how courageous would they be in the face of this gruesome scenario.
Tucked neatly away in the safety of their bodyguards, secret service and inside their underground bunkers against any possible attacks against their person it does become more understandable of the origin of their abject apathy against the suffering of other people with self justification such as 'just as long as it isn't me, who the heck cares' yet does cruel fate have to deal them a tragic blow for them to come to the realisation of the consequences of their nefarious actions that brings on so much suffering that they would also cringe at the thought of had they been the victims themselves.
Is the disease 'psychopathy' self generated through wrongly held beliefs brought on by the external circumstances that encourage certain genetic traits or is it purely genetic based.
Maybe both but the more important question for these psychopaths that the powerful positions seems to attract in droves is can they be rehabilitated and this weakness extirpated from their inner world of thoughts, feelings and actions.
I don't know but experience with these types tells me that the denial they are so ensconced with and buried deep within their psyche tells me that when there exists the system of rewards and incentives, they can or will never change.
Matt Lee |
Billwilson12
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2013 - 08:44 am: |
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To fully grasp and to handle the fullment of my sprit, I must first follow the path of the wise.
To understand the fountain of knowledge, one must allow the streams of knowledge come forth, join and burst forth, to feed the tree of knowledge within.
To fill the vold within allow the creational streams to gather into a mighty live giving flow. The life force form the heart will feed the tree of life within.
It will bear a bounty of fruit. Love each and every monment of time, the surrounding life force will reward every step taken forward.
The fear of the mind being sit free does not have to be, it has to be free to find the enlighted path.
Being born free of all past controls one just has to claim this freedom and be free.
The flow from the root to the heart and the mind is not under anyones control outside the self.
Just be, be free, enjoy the moment. |
Billwilson12
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2013 - 09:08 am: |
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As I ponder all the missed signs of the prophets, and wonder the fate of the Lords. I can only but think of the of the old world wonders and thier fate. As the plant is raped, I find myself back at the nile delta. from above looking down the tree of life flows, out into the delta, its been here for me all along. The same design is deep in me, my on mind. Surely the tree of life is the same design as my own brain split open like flower. And at this point I reason that there are two trees in my brain. I am reminded that as below so above, Both knowledge an life are within me. So must my spirit be, a light within me. I learned to love and how to be loved so spirit be free with all the love I have in me. But still it stays with me. To remind me of the knowledge and wisdom to be and that was. This part of me will always be free.
Love to all
123OM |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 516
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 06:12 am: |
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Bill Wilson 12,
Most impulses that register as intuitions come from the storage banks, not the spirit-form. I recommend reading "the Might of the Thoughts" and "the Psyche" so you can start to get a handle on this, at times, different and complex information.
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 861
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:46 pm: |
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Good on ya Bill but in a different context
Psychopaths will be psychopaths and if only they keep it to themselves people wouldn't have to be loud but loud doesn't necessarily mean unfreedom or being miserable.
cheers
Matt Lee |
Billwilson12
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 06:20 pm: |
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Thank you guys so much..
I really needed screening and still advice when warrented an needed.
I was went from being on youtube learning about pre 50's tech., Then a doctor using a bone conduction head set on my skull changed everything. Which for some reason sent me here to find reason. Studying hard, to keep it all from destroying my family and me. No other outlet could be found by me, that could understand, an could be of any help. With no teachers in my life for this. Glad you have knowledge and the wisdom to see someone on fire. Thank you for the control an stepping in. Never knew how stupid one can be, until the the skys became filled with beauty, and info started flowing from nowhere at a much faster rate than the eyes can read an grasp. If I am on fire kick my behind and throw water on me. Finally got to the last pages of Jmmanuel, did not see that coming. Thank you for helping.
Trying to find a new path.
Love to all
123OM |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 520
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2013 - 05:09 pm: |
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Bill Wilson 12,
Contrary to what mainstream sources say, the human spirit is completely neutral and does not guide humans. That power alone is in the human consciousness, the human consciousness it was is used to connect and utilize spirit energy. The human consciousness should also be used to control thoughts, feelings, and actions see "the Might of the Thoughts" for more information.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 892
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 10:05 pm: |
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Hi All
I don't know but I am getting this urge somewhere as an indistinct impulse that our task here on this forum is to keep on keeping on talking about the issues and topics raised by Billy and the Plejaren as an extension of themselves in a way.
Since the forum participating members here aren't restricted by what we can say or disclose, unlike Billy and the Plejaren, I am getting this sense that although our insight, assumptions, conjecture, opinions, thoughts, views, feelings, perception, understanding and discernment can be way off, it may just be helpful to put Billy's and the Plejren's words on the radar through continued discussions.
As most people know by now there are audiences outside the scope of this forum membership that includes the UN officials, CIA, NSA, Vatican, various governments, NGOs, and many others that take Billy and the Plejaren words very seriously.
So it does appear to me that discussion generated here from what Billy and the Plejaren have disclosed may also end up mainstream in many non-perceptible ways which may influence the course of history to greater or lesser extent.
May be its just me but it appears that some of the topics discussed here precedes information disclosed by other website whose owners may take cues from what Billy and the Plejaren had said along with what is discussed here on this forum about it.
This then means that like it was the case previously and which will most likely be more so, this forum platform is an incredible avenue to lead discussion towards a direction based on what is disclosed by Billy and by being in conformance with it, will no doubt generate a talking point for people outside of this forum and in the process achieve what Billy and the Plejaren may have initially intended their discussion to lead towards. |
Jacob
Member
Post Number: 134
Registered: 02-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 03:17 pm: |
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Everything starts small.
Everything that comes into existence begins very small, regardless what it is, let it be the universal-consciousness Creation, a human being, an animal, a plant, an idea, or a work.
What the human thinks of, as an idea, starts very small and fragile, but exactly like a grain swells by the constant humidification and nourishment, germinates, roots and grows and unfolds to an ear of corn, in a similar way a thought, idea or work strengthens and comes to realization.
What you think, you become, an idea in the center of attention will come to realization, sooner or later depending on the intensity and logicality of your thoughts and feelings.
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This is stated in the book Arahat Athersata:
German:
22. Was ein Mensch nämlich denkt, das wird früher oder später eintreffen, denn jeder Gedanke ist eine ungeborene Tat, eine im Entstehen begriffene Handlung oder Wirkung.
English:
22. What a human thinks, which will happen sooner or later, because every thought is an unborn act, an action or effect in development.
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Its clearly visible in Nature that everything small and in an embryonic state is fragile, easily hurt and disturbed in its early phases of development, that is the reason why life very often start hidden away from most outside influences, like the baby in a pregnant woman, a grain of corn hidden in the ground, the idea or work hidden in the consciousness and hidden from others.
This is the reason why a human, when he or she thinks of an idea, a work a plan, should keep it for him or herself first before revealing it by words to others.
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It has been said in OM, Canon 32, Verse: 287
German:
Ein Werk, das man im Bewusstsein ausgedacht hat, soll man nicht durch das Wort verraten, denn eine Sache, die ein anderer gewahr wird, pflegt nicht zu gelingen.
English:
One is not to betray a work, which one has thought up in ones consciousness, by means of words (telling others), because a thing, which comes into awareness of others, does not tend to succeed.
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An idea, like a sprout needs time to develop, to grow, to strengthen in order to become strong and powerful, and it cant do that when it has to ward off external influences which alter, manipulate and hinder its natural development.
Just like the Sequoia tree, which starts out as a tiny plant, hidden from clear sight, but over time grows out to become a majestic grand tree to withstand the test of time and oversees the passing of many century and even millennia before passing on in the eternal cycle of life.
Your idea is your idea, only if you stay true to your ideas, to allow them to develop through the early phases without the influences from others, they will become successful.
The reason why an idea tends not to succeed when exposed to other people too early is because every person is different, has different thoughts and feelings and will have influences, which are alien to your idea or work.
An idea stems from your own personality, and every personality is unique, wait until your idea, your work grows and gains a level of maturity before exposing it to outside influences.
Based on / Sources: Geisteslehre, Arahat Athersata, OM
Salome,
Jacob
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.
~ Socrates
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Ferbon
Member
Post Number: 335
Registered: 05-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 10:26 pm: |
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Jacob
Your analysis gave me an idea for another round of questions. I can't say what it is though;)
Salome |
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