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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1113
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 03:12 am: | 
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Valerie Plame or plume
Michael that went out like a puff of smoke
Sorry for my amateurish attempt at humour or was it dehumour ;-)
Ha ha
Matt Lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1114
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 03:17 am: |
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Hey Corey is it safe to say then that we don't have to wait very long seeing as this is suppose to be the last pope or did the prophecy change on that one too?
Gee how I wish that underground Vatican vault library would open up just to see how much of the truth known by these people have been kept hidden for thousands of years. |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 11:12 am: |
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The best idea is not rely on the prophecies. Truthfully, watching any blight die is a welcome event because it allows a
fertile field in which to plant a new field of dreams.
Religions are doomed to failure because they are all false, and predicated upon unsound notions about reality. Empires built on religious notions also fall under this doom of failure. As humanity matures it's thinking, the future generations will stare in wonderment at their historical naivety; as is the case with a vast many people currently.
Warfare also falls under these pretexts because war is an aberration based upon falsehoods. Hunters hunt prey for food, but humans fight ALWAYS over treasure based on the falsehood known as wealth, and unedible gold. Oil is the new gold, and wealth is an earthling construct of imagination based upon the unreal notion of property. The only true property is the spirit and it's current living body.
Warfare is based on the unreal notion of property, and the superiority complex endemic to the genetically engineered progeny wrought in epochs long before the Sol System was colonized.
As for WW4, don't give it a second thought because the Earth Humans are connected enough to stop such foolishness for the first time in earth history. If it does happen then back to the bleak stone age we go.
The Prophecy about the popes is not so much a prophecy at all, but is in fact a logical prediction based upon sound reasoning. Everything that is based upon deceit will unravel into entropy no matter how long it is upheld by 9-inch nails of lies.
Jack --
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Rogerpeck
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2013
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 12:51 pm: |
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No amount of letter writing to governments is going to change the possibility of another major worldwide conflagration any time soon. If it happens , it happens. Any control over this type of activity was removed from the public control long ago. No amount of beseeching the Plejaren or anyone else for that matter will change this. Sometimes in the Creational expanse, Humans just succumb whether it is voluntarily brought upon themselves or involuntarily forced upon them. It's a raw deal sometimes. Sometimes the dice land, sometimes they don't. It simply is what it is when Humans are at the helm. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 429
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, June 02, 2014 - 02:44 pm: |
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Howdy Matt,
No doubt, it was abit silly, or an impossible long-shot, to reach out to a public figure within the CIA. I still kinda chuckle about it sometimes.
Mrs. Plame's claim to fame should hardly be quickly forgotten. She is apparently the real deal rarely exposed: an honest, moral CIA analyst. If anyone from the government should be assessing this uber-world-changing case for veracity it's the likes of her. I suggested she visit the SSSC, meet with people, and do her assessments. Considering what she has previously done, this shouldn't even be a very big assignment for her.
Life
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Vincent
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 12:53 am: |
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Hi,
In 1975 the Plejaren said the chances of an atomic world war was 99.8% probability NOT occurring. Is this % figure still the same now that we entered the third millennium or has it gone up? Have the Plejaren or Billy given a new % figure?
Contact Report 039
Date/time of contact: Wednesday, December 3, 1975, 1:37 AM
Billy:
Then it can still become quite cheerful. Will the atomic blockheads still chuck their firecrackers on their heads?
Semjase:
254. That danger should be averted, at least for now, and according to the probability calculations, that should still be able to be excluded at least up into the third millennium.
255. The values are at 99.8 percent; therefore, only an erupting madness of a ruling power or the inattentiveness of human beings could trigger a nuclear war.
Billy:
So this means that for now, there’s no reason to fear a nuclear war anymore?
Semjase:
256. Sure, if you’re thinking of an actual World War.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_039 |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1117
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 08:13 am: |
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Hey Michael good effort nonetheless and kudos to you for trying
In my opinion this counts more than whatever Valerie may possibly do for the mission
She is definitely compromised though because of these hyenas and vultures at the neocon establishment who just cant seem to help themselves |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 139
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2014 - 03:54 am: |
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When Pope Francis was elected,it seemed that a particular Henoch prophecy would not be fulfilled.He is no Peter!However I have been watching(listening)to videos by Kevin Annett,Field Secretary of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State(see ITCCS website).It would seem to me that the current pope is nothing more than a front man,a puppet,for it is Ratzinger(the former pope)who is pulling the strings and is effectively in charge.Henoch writes:"But also the reformed version of Christianity will become just as infinitely small,as does Catholicism.Many Catholic clerics,... and many others will be killed..." Kevin Annett will be leading an ITCCS enforcement delegation accompanied by Common Law Sheriffs and supporters to the UK and to Rome to enforce Court arrest warrants against Elizabeth Windsor and against Pope Joseph Ratzinger and others already convicted by the Common Law Court of Justice for crimes against humanity.Also:"Vatican floats rumours of Pope’s “ill health” to distract from new evidence indicting Jorge Bergoglio for child murder – Common Law Sheriffs to take action."Ratzinger resigned because the papal throne became too hot.This also seems likely for Bergoglio.The church is in turmoil-is Peter waiting on the sideline?
Charles |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1119
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 06, 2014 - 02:53 am: |
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Hey Charles maybe our views about the pope aren't that far off as even if it seems that he comes across as one of those rare types that act in conscience the past cannot be ignored as it definitely tells much about the present and in this case the pope.
http://globalresearch.org/search?q=pope+francis |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2014 - 12:53 pm: |
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Unbiased question for the group: The U.S. forces have pulled out Iraq and are slowly withdrawing from that entire region; Iraq is now under intense attack from Al Qaeda and other supposed terrorist organizations. From a spiritual standpoint for U.S. leaders, what is the correct action for the U.S. to take; continue to withdrawal or turn around and help the Iraqi? |
Corey
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Post Number: 641
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2014 - 01:43 pm: |
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Kenneth,
Good question! Obviously according to the material, this Iraq event should be handled in a gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit and multi-national peace keeping troop manner, but since that is not manifestable on Earth at this time, the question arises: should the US help Iraq? In my personal opinion, the US should continue the withdrawal and focus on domestic issues, and if it chooses to help Iraq, I like what Obama says, that it can't just be the US alone, the international community needs to be mobilized to help Iraq as well, even if such a statement makes Republican's blood boil as they howl for war, and call Obama "soft" on foreign policy.
Getting the international community to help, like in Libya, could one day in the upcoming future, possibly (emphasis on possibly) could set a precedent for a multi-national peace keeping troop to keep the peace on planet Earth in some manifestable form. I like how Obama tries to mobilize the international community too, this way it is not just the US acting like the wanna-be world police all the time. I think it is a very intelligent approach to slow-roll the US war machine aiming for world domination and instead, try to get the world's effort united in keeping the peace as an alternative.
I know that Iran has offered to help Iraq, and Iran said it is willing to work with Americans to do so, which is very surprising considering the bad blood history between Iran and the US... This is just my personal opinion, and in seeking a balance, I would be interested in the opinions of people from overseas on this issue too, should the US help Iraq (and the world community), or just let the Shiite dictatorship fall to opposing extremist factions such as ISIS?...
FIGU recommends using the human body as an example for the multi-national peace keeping troop, when infected with a sickness, the body releases anti-bodies in overwhelming numbers to wipe out the sickness... food for thought.
Salome
Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2014 - 08:24 am: |
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Corey, Thanks for your honest and in-depth reply |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1139
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 12:06 am: |
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Hi Corey
Although I agree with your views in principle I still take this adages that 'if you broke it you fix it'.
It is incumbent on the US and its cohorts alone who invaded Iraq to make reparations which should never be passed onto other nations who had nothing to do with it.
So all those countries that voted for the Iraq war in the UN security council from the 1990 and 2003 should all be made responsible for what is going on in Iraq.
Its about time the warmongering US government stepped up and take full responsibility for their actions and all those so called leaders responsible for bringing the war to Iraq tried for crimes against humanity.
My views are shortsighted I know but with the current state of affair both socially, financially and politically we can never achieve a multi-national peace keeping force in the style of Henoch or even a stepping stone to getting there in the future.
What the US should instead do first and foremost is to get the funk out every country they are occupying and all its unnecessary military installations that keeps threatening what it perceives as a threat to their rule which then forces other nations to arm themselves to the teeth for self protection.
These US military and airforce is in Korea alone.
The armistice and the end to conflict but not the war happened back in 1953.
That's 61 years ago
So what the funk is the US still doing in Korea
It makes my blood boil thinking about it.
This country spends untold sums propping up the US military as shared expense arrangement and secret expenses not known about to the regular Korean.
I've been inside one of these military bases a number of times and Californian laws apply because the land on which this base is in is effectively owned by the US military.
That's right this inside Korean land.
President Obama is a well intentioned president but one well-intentioned president cannot govern alone but need to support of his staff.
It is the power outside the institution of the presidency which is the real power and over 100 or more Council on Foreign Relations types occupy a position within the current administration and they aren't all well intentioned like the president.
So the bottom line is US as the instigator of the war should be the one most responsible for what is happening in Iraq and if other nations choose to chip in and help out on humanitarian concerns I guess it's up to them
Kunsan Air Base
Osan Air Base
Camp Carroll
Camp Casey
Camp Castle
Camp Eagle
Camp Hovey
Camp Humphreys
Camp Market
Camp Red Cloud
Camp Stanley
K-16 Air Base
USAG Daegu
USAG Yongsan
Fleet Activities Chinhae |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1141
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 10:09 am: |
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I am not bragging nor is it something to definitely brag about as it is more tragic than it is something uplifting but I had a dream the night before a Ukrainian plane was shot down which killed 47 or 49 odd people and in the dream a pilot was desperate to escape from a plane that was about to either crash or because it was shot down.
Like a stealthy robber by night these things enter my dream or my head out of the blue whether I am asleep or awake.
This wasn't by no means the first of such episodes but I had to get something else off my chest as out of the blue a certain irritation has consumed me once again like it had on other occasions and as recently as when I was in China some months ago which preceded an earthquake which I had foretold to a friend.
Now whenever I get these feelings subsequently something happens like a natural disaster or some really terrible catastrophe.
Maybe by outing it I would like to jinx it so that whatever the impending disaster that awaits, it doesn't happen like I fear it would.
Given the high probability of natural disasters or even a terrorist attack (or false flag op)happening these days any Joe blow can get things right by having a lucky guess at it but these intuition I cannot ignore.
I don't know I must be one of those people who is very sensitive to electromagnetic frequency waves or something where I just can't stand bright energy saving lights that drives me insane especially when I enter shopping centres or brightly lit malls.
Anyway as vague as it maybe I hope that I am wrong.
Matt Lee |
Corey
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Post Number: 642
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 01:12 am: |
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Matt Lee,
I read your post and pondered your statements. I was party to trying to get George Bush impeached, and w/o revealing my source, I will say that a powerful person told me in correspondance that the reason Bush wasn't impeached was that it would have left Cheney as US president, and it was determined that would have been worse then Bush.
I would love to see him, Cheney, and all their vassals, including members of Congress who rubber stamped the war, to get tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
With a Shiite dictatorship, the only way a semi-peaceful solution could come about is if the Iraq government also included Sunnis and Kurds as part of the solution and government, which is unlikely. Plus if the US or any country tried to help Iraq, I'm sure the Sunnis would resist, as they have been begging and dying for intervention in Syria and have only received a laize-faire response from the world. The average, everyday folk of the Middle East don't want an extreme Islamic rule of law, or a US hastily backed, extreme dictatorship either, they want real respected rights and freedoms the western nations have with roots in peaceful Muslim style roots though. Their way in their terms, and the people will probably die and resist dictatorships until civil wars break out all over the region.
The only statement of yours I didn't agree with, is the one where you said "socially, financially and politically we can never achieve a multi-national peace keeping force in the style of Henoch or even a stepping stone to getting there in the future.".: IMO If the planet Earth wanted it bad enough, it could happen. And once it was realized how well it worked, it would be part of the permanent solution for lasting peace on this planet. Much of this depends on unitellectual and unrational world leaders, whom would be removed from office by the same force they would formate, and be banished to some island or land tract.
The multi-national peace keeping force is so logical, probably too logical for power hungry leaders or self-centered masses to consider at this time. A large military force that specializes in non-lethal force, deportation/banishment and peacekeeping specialties, where everybody plays for the same team, and answers directly to the people of Earth? It would be too good to be true. Our planet would also have to revolutionize the way it deals with criminals too,
It probably won't manifest until after a potential devastating, mass-casualty-life-claiming, horrendous and terrible global conflict breaks out, where countries and masses would be affected in a decimated/negative manner before such a force would be considerable. Just like overpopulation, the negative events will most likely have to happen first.
Every time I research international responses to conflict, I get optimistic, like many countries were doing with their navies to battle piracy, or what happened in Libya, where even the Arab leaque partook, but I don't want to delude myself either.
As for my country closing all military bases and retreating like Ptaah suggested, this would be optimum, but unlikely as the US war machine is just to big and has so many layers of world domination aspirations and anti-Creational dark forces entrenched in it (antiLOGOS), and if the right wing wins the Presidency, (which I heard from a FIGU source this is very likely) this will only get worse before it gets better. My country will have to collapse first, before the overseas bases are left to decay. Bad for me and my people if my country collapses, an improvement for the rest of the world I suppose, until China's potential war-like actions fill in the blanks the US absence left behind...
As for your dreams and intuitions of the subconsciousness (Ahnungen), it's obvious that you are a sensitive person to those types of phenomenon, I would call it a gift, and not a curse. Keep posting about it if it helps, I think it is very interesting, and makes a good read my friend.
Salome
Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Darren
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Post Number: 411
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 03:51 am: |
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The US has already stole most of Iraq's oil, installed it's puppet government there and got a foothold for a future military base there if it ever wanted one. The great freedom liberators work is done there. That's why the US is leaving. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 433
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 05:39 am: |
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Matt, I tend to agree in principle that the governments of Israel, the US, and its Western allies should own their responsibilities regarding the rebuilding of Iraq and other countries that they have invaded, or even merely negatively impacted in some way. However...
There is only so much an outside government can do to rebuild another country's society. Iraq was controlled by an iron-fisted dictator, Saddam Hussein, and for a time that form of government worked to keep the Iraqi character in check pretty well. Lacking his strong governance, the Iraqis are gonna factionate. There is nothing that Israel or the U.S. can do to force the Iraqi people to accept gentler forms of governance if they aren't ready for it. The progression of governance out of the quagmire that we bombed them into probably leads through some form of strong-armed Islamic governance. We can rebuild the infrastructure of countries we have destroyed, but the governance of a people is up to themselves.
Of course there's the ideal, and then there is what's most likely to happen. This is Iraq we are talking about - with some of the largest easily-accessed oil reserves in the world. Israel and it's puppet, the U.S., are not gonna let their new government there be overtaken by uppety young upstarts from Iraq, no matter how much they represent the people of their own country. Governance has too much riding on it to play the game fairly, not in countries we have targeted, nor especially here at home. The only thing that matters for these folks is the facade of democracy. How they will spin this, that is the only question.
To make an accurate assessment, this world needs to be seen with so cynical an eye it hurts.
Life
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Darren
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Post Number: 412
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 11:08 pm: |
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"We can rebuild the infrastructure of countries we have destroyed,..."
Will the US rebuild all the millions of Iraqi people's homes that it destroyed? No way.
10 Years After the Invasion: America Destroyed Iraq But Our War Crimes Remain Unacknowledged and Unpunished
The evil unleashed on the people of Iraq has been painstakingly obscured behind a tapestry of lies.
http://www.alternet.org/world/10-years-after-invasion-america-destroyed-iraq-our-war-crimes-remain-unacknowledged-and |
Piyali
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 08-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 11:28 am: |
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Salome Darren, thank you so much for the link. Reads well. Unfortunately, this is true of many other countries around the world. The scale and range of what the US can do is greater because of its money power. China does it in Tibet and is now expanding to Africa. It is humanity that is to blame not one or other country.
Salome with Love ~
Piyali
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Darren
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Post Number: 413
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 08:23 pm: |
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Hi Piyali, I guess your right there.
btw, my second previous post was my own opinion. The US got Iraq's oil, installed it's puppet government there and got it's military base there too. That's why I think it's leaving Iraq now. It achieved it's goal there. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1143
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 11:39 pm: |
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Michael I've read a report some time ago that the living condition under Saddam was much better than what it is today in Iraq
So I guess the rulers of this world is definitely successful in their plan to bring chaos to that region for their nefarious agendas.
It's basically getting people of their own kind to decimate each other and to the rulers of the earth the Arabs are nothing more than desert rats who must be exterminated. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1144
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 11:33 pm: |
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Good on ya Corey
Much appreciated for your perspectives.
Whatever our views, in the end, the whole tragic scenario playing out in the middle east and all over the world is a symptom of many things but primarily the earth human beings, first and foremost, being ignorant of the Creational spiritual truths and not living by it's principles
So we do have a front row seat to this tragic theater being played out in front of our very eyes and I do wholehearted agree with you that the only way that we humanity will learn is through tragedies
I guess we will all have to personally feel it deep down to our very bones before we wake up. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1146
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 11:40 pm: |
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Darren could there be other reasons why the US is leaving such as through Obama's efforts? |
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