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    Historeed Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 09-2008 |
Matt, please think about your statement..."I got nothing against homosexuals as long as they keep this (sick) behaviour behind closed doors". It seems contradictory to me. If it makes you "cringe", perhaps it's because you aren't a homosexual and not because it's inherently wrong. Peace, Matthew Reed Matthew Reed | ||
Matt Member Post Number: 449 Registered: 04-2006 |
Historeed, I do not have statistics but I know there are a great number of people like myself who find the sight of two men passionately kissing each other sick and disturbing to watch. Ask Billy if this behaviour is appropriate and be ok for children to watch, then we will have the answer whether or not it should be appropriate and allowed in public as well as on our TV screens, music videos, ect. | ||
Indi Moderator Post Number: 764 Registered: 06-2006 |
Between translations longer than a couple of sentences to an ongoing discussion about homosexuality in this section is too far off track. There were two more posts in the queue on the homosexuality topic which will not be allowed through (Earthling and Verlanis). Please repost them in an appropriate section. It takes moderators time and with some complication within the software to move posts to appropriate sections, so it would be appreciated if members would make the effort to place posts more carefully and to stay on topic. Salome Robyn Denken Sie für sich selbst! | ||
Hunter Member Post Number: 397 Registered: 03-2004 |
The Geopolitics of World War III https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC3tINgWfQE#t=410 A very well done 22 minute documentary "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 462 Registered: 07-2009 |
Hunter, I watched it 2 days ago. It was very good. A lot of his (StormCloudsGathering) videos are close to the mark/truth when compared to what the Meier material says about them. Two months ago on this forum I posted a link to his video about the Ukraine crisis and Flight MH17. Flight MH17 - What You're Not Being Told 14 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67OGUsQC44 In it he said the crisis and attack on Russia was about the "Brics" bank. A few days later Billy confirmed this. A shame his philosophy videos are on the wrong track. I sent him an email pointing him out to the Meier case but I doubt he looked at it because his videos are very popular and I think he must be getting lots of emails. He didn't respond back to me. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 705 Registered: 12-2009 |
I posted some links back when Romney was trying to be President that the majority of his close advisors were former Bush PNAC people, (StormCloudsGathering mentioned PNAC) The movie entitled "why we fight" a former CIA official reveals the bombshell that Saddam Hussien was a former CIA asset that could no longer be controlled, it reaffirms the the information in the video the geopolitics of WWIII in more perspective, about Saddam trying to move away from the Petrodollar. Very good video! Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Azaka New member Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2014 |
Nice documentary Hunter, thanks. I agree with the video 100% especially if ppl saw the latest EU & US sanctions against Russia in the middle of ceasefire in Ukraine, it seems the west is just looking for excuses to corner Russia. http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140527/190167976/Russias-Lavrov-Mocks-Wests-Excuses-to-Put-Further-Pressure-on.html It also seems there's a huge growing trend of hating Russia on the public discussion of western countries, i'm afraid it won't take long to convince the general public to support war against Russia. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 1047 Registered: 06-2008 |
Speaking of plane crashes ...... Here's what the results of a real one are like on the ground ..... debris consistent with the aircraft model, corpses, luggage, personal effects and all the things expected to be on board an airliner. Even witness reports of bodies falling to the ground. This is Flight MH17. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dexhcx3KLS4 Compare what you see in the very short video to 9/11 ..... what was missing in 9/11 ..... everything associated with a real plane crash. Cheers. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1232 Registered: 07-2005 |
Ramirez I don't know about the Pennsylvania and Pentagon crashes but definitely the two twin tower crashes were plane crashes I think. John lear of lear jet fame told me years ago that the planes were holographic I retorted to the effect 'BS' as I knew he was on CIA payroll The MH17 I think was shot down by Ukrainian jet fighters. The damage to the cockpit is consistent with a shootdown. Its all a false flag operation Why people are blaming obama for everything bad under the sun I'll never know when even his own advisors are betraying him behind his back carrying out their own agenda under the orders of the shadow government the 'dark order' unfettered. When will stupidity be recognised for stupidity that it is by stupid people who are under the delusion that they are smart to be so oblivious to the fact that they aren't but instead stupid. | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 1049 Registered: 06-2008 |
"but definitely the two twin tower crashes were plane crashes I think." Really ..... with Mohammed Atta's passport miraculously floating to the ground an hour after the planes allegedly struck and the towers had fallen. That has to be stretching physics to new levels. The really strange thing about New York is that of all the witnesses only one claimed to have heard a plane and that one was among the planted. Dont know about anyone else but here at a place called Sydenham where there's a railway station near the airport it's possible to watch planes on the landing descent as low as a few hundred feet ..... about the same altitude as the supposed planes which collided with WTC and ..... the planes passing overhead here make a lot of noise which is unmistakable. So from all those witnesses why didn't anyone hear the sound of aircraft engines ? ..... maybe because there weren't any and the so called airliners were explosive laden remote drones probably using black ops silent anti grav technology. The nazis had it in WW2 and ..... many nazi scientists ended up in USA after the war courtesy of Operation Paperclip. Prerigged controlled demolition charges combined with small remote drones and the rest was video editing except they slipped up with one video where the so called plane's nose is seen exiting through the building out the other side which is impossible ..... except in a composite video which is what everyone saw on TV news that night. Blame Obama ..... after all he is the president and chooses his advisors ...... supposedly. So is that the stupidity of Obama, his advisors or both but in the end ..... he is the president so therefore in charge ..... theoretically. Cheers. | ||
Ekr New member Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2014 |
Newinitiation yes, holographic image of plane, the two jet engines were placed hologram around a missle for each engine. The sound get projected | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 466 Registered: 07-2009 |
I find it hard to believe that they would dare try to edit imaginary planes crashing into the towers because, like Billy's ufo clips, the video could be analyzed afterwards. Also, there was thousands of people there looking at the towers after the first plane struck. If there was no plane there would have been hundreds of people saying they saw NO plane hit the tower. As for the video clip showing the second plane's nose exiting through the building on the other side. I think that was probably planted by the CIA so they can maybe later use it to debunk 911 conspiracy theorists by proving it was a hoax by saying something like it was an anomaly in the camera that took the clip. I don't know. The finding of the terrorists passport that struck the tower, I think that was definitely planted. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 709 Registered: 12-2009 |
If you watch the towers fall in slow motion it definitely looks like a planned demolition, and the tapes of the firefighters that died in the towers state there was explosives being detonated well after the planes struck. I mean how could two planes take out three buildings? I will never understand how the Plejaren say it was due to explosives in the two planes to debunk the conspiracy theories. Never. 9/11 was just another reason to rubber stamp two wars for the war-mongering Republicans and other parties got what they wanted, like PNAC. All those innocent people murdered in Iraq, and all that destruction over nothing. I'm still waiting for the "unbelievable disaster" to manifest, and I'm sure, knowing Billy, it will be unbelievable. Goblet states not to retaliate towards your enemies. I wonder how many centuries it will take before Earth humanity learns this the hard way? Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 314 Registered: 11-2008 |
Enough of the conspiracy nonsense surrounding 9/11. Ptaah had already made it clear in a contact report that 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Remember the Plejaren either suppress sensitive information and tell Billy in private or they say it as it is (i.e. the truth) in a contact report. | ||
Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 04-2009 |
Obama was good maybe according to BEAM ,but now hes creating WW4 with Ukraine and Syria and shooting down the MH17 was also done by NATO/US/IDF/EU its clear that he sold himself out ! | ||
Str0323 Member Post Number: 18 Registered: 02-2012 |
Hello, does anyone know the contact report number that discusses the reason for the WTC collapse. Are there any that talk about building 7? Much appreciated. Salome, Scott Reed. | ||
Wehojp84 New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2014 |
Hello all. I recently joined this message board and have really been enjoying it, so much info to soak up! Anyway, in light of Hunter's post and what that video was talking about, as well as the Flight MH17 video, did anyone see in the news today (see link at bottom) that a mysterious person just offered a 30 million dollar reward for a whistleblower to come forward and ID who really shot down the plane, gave the order, etc.?? Fascinating stuff. Maybe it really was the Ukranians who did it? Should be very interesting to see if anyone steps forward...http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/09/17/malaysia-airlines-mh17-ukraine-reward-30m/15778011/ | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 1051 Registered: 06-2008 |
Darren, "If there was no plane there would have been hundreds of people saying they saw NO plane hit the tower." That's exactly the case ..... witnesses claiming there was no aircraft sound nor any planes, just an explosion. There were probably many home made videos of the second strike but where are they ? none appeared on television nor at the 9/11 inquiry because those videos would have proved there were no planes which off course is rather bad publicity. So all videos handed over ended up being either destroyed or confiscated though there still may be some genuine footage in circulation. But the giveaway is that video showing a plane's nose exiting out the other side of the building momentarily which was only shown once then withdrawn from network coverage when the error was realized. Back in 2001 the US government and that part of it responsible for the event probably never realized the sophistication to which video analytical software would eventually develop plus underestimated the acute minds of those with highly developed powers of observation who would systematically examine the evidence finding anomalies wide enough to drive a bus through. However MH17 is a great and recent example of how the results of a real plane crash appear at the scene. The Pentagon ..... where's the wreckage ? An airliner was supposed to pass through a 16 foot hole then vanish somewhere ..... come on. There were a camera's everywhere around the Pentagon yet where's the footage of a plane approaching then striking the building ? Then we have what appears to be a bulldozed hole in the ground in a field with a few sprinkled parts lying about (with serial numbers not matching the alleged aircraft model involved) but no sign of burning or genuine wreckage anywhere in sight and are expected to believe a plane crashed there ..... come on. With the WTC in New York where allegedly 2 planes toppled 3 steel re-inforced buildings taking about an hour for each to fall including the one not struck by anything ..... oh yeah ..... it's the sort of fairy tales you'd expect to hear from man on a balcony. Cheers. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1233 Registered: 07-2005 |
Ramirez obviously I am not claiming to know everything about what happened on 911 as it is a very complex event for any one person or expert to get his/her head around. I just wish that people had enough sense not to fall into the proverbial psyops, misinformation, planted information, disinformation, lies, manipulated distraction, skewed perception, decoys and trashing surrounding this event. This is the type of 'stupidity' that I was referring to and it matters little whether people have an adult IQ of 200 or is a top CEO of a fortune 500 company. Throughout history the regular folks have been manipulated into wars via falseflag operation and 911 is no exception. As Billy said the two invasion of Iraq will lead to unbelievable disaster if saner heads don't prevail in curtailing the prophecies. Btw Atta's passport was most likely planted after the event just as the media shills and whores were on ground zero were to relentlessly push a certain narrative during interviews. You also have to remember a good portion of 911 activists are paid CIA assests and the no plane theory to holographic plane theory to controlled demolition only theory to thermate only theory to hijacked plane only pushers might have to be looked upon with more careful scrutiny and examination. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 898 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Regarding 9/11, there is also this, for what it's worth: http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/page/26641.html | ||
Darren Member Post Number: 467 Registered: 07-2009 |
Ramirez, Perhaps those witnesses claiming they saw no second plane hitting the tower were on the opposite side of where the plane hit it? I think another reason there had to be planes that hit the twin towers is because Billy also said so. But the planes that supposedly hit the Pentagon and the one that landed in the field, I'm convinced there were no planes there. And I'm convinced WTC 7 was brought down by Controlled Demolition. Hello Billy, In answering previous questions concerning the collapse of the WTC Towers, you indicated that at high levels the US Government had awareness of the plan to crash planes into the buildings. Not only did they have awareness, they did nothing to stop it. You also indicated that explosives were aboard the planes. Therefore, we might consider that the explosives were a decisive factor in the buildings collapse. If the US Government did not carry out the acts, then we must conclude that the Arab/Muslim/terrorists who were alleged to have crashed the planes did in fact both put the explosives on the planes and crash them into the buildings (the planes were not steered via remote control). Does this scenario concur with the facts as you know them, or have I gotten some things wrong? Please correct me wherever I am wrong. Thank you. Answer The main reason for the towers to crash down was the extreme heat that let the metal structure melt. As far as Billy knows the explosives on the plane were in liquid form, but he does not know how the explosives were brought on the planes. Yes, high levels of the US Government knew about the project, but on the one hand did not take it serious or on the other hand had the idea, that such an attack would deliver them cause to start a worldwide war against terrorism, including actions against issues that had nothing to do with terrorism. They were playing with fire. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/6520.html#POST21846 I think the US didn't just allow 9/11 to happen but helped it happen to the extent that it did, meaning the Pentagon, WTC 7 and the ghost plane that crashed in the field was ALL the US's doing. I don't think we will know how much of a role the US played in the twin towers until later because the P's said in the future we would eventually find/work out what happened on that day. Personally I think there were explosives planted in the towers to help make sure they came down because of how they came down and because of all the weeks of mysterious night work going on in the towers before they came down that day. | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 315 Registered: 11-2008 |
Here's what Ptaah said in contact report 443 about not accepting the truth: Nonsensical scribbles of this kind are entirely commercially directed so that the rouble rolls, as you tend to say, also so that the hacks - if I may use your expression - can fill their pockets with money. In addition to that, they are imprisoned in sectarian-belief and esotericism and, in their thoughts and feelings as well as in their belief, they move in worlds of illusion and other kinds of unreal imaginations. The entirety of this matter of faith and fantasies has developed into a delusion in them which already moves in schizophrenic forms, whereby they no longer perceive the truth and reality and consequently also can no longer recognise it. And in this delusional form they infiltrate the humans with their absurdities which they imagine and also adopt them from other scribblers which you call "abkupfern". [copying?] Thereby the readers of the entire nonsense are seduced to believingly accept the lies, slanders, the swindle and the fantasies of these irresponsible scribblers as truth while they assess the reality and the real truth as unrealistic, unreal and as untruth. The rest of it can be read here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_443 The point I'm trying to make here is that there is actually a market for all this conspiracy nonsense. People like Alex Jones are known to spread fear mongering, exaggerations and conspiracy nonsense while at the same time he profits from all this. One has to not only be careful of the mainstream media but also of the so-called alternative media because although the alternative media might fair better than the mainstream media, it also up to a certain extent spreads half-truths if not complete false information. Just because one sees a "9/11 truth documentary" or whatever one may call it does NOT necessarily mean that it is reporting the truth from start to finish. And just because there might be some "unanswered questions" surrounding 9/11 doesn't necessarily mean we should simply come to the conclusion by saying that it was all an inside job. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 711 Registered: 12-2009 |
Darren: I read your post and it seems to make sense. Nice find on Billy's answer, and your post seems to tie it all together. If the P's are right, and after time we do figure out the truth of what happened (whatever that might be), it will be a big pill to swallow for a lot of people. Matt Lee: I just can't believe there are holograms on Earth sophisticated enough to pass off as airplanes crashing into the twin towers. The owner of the twin towers cashed in on his insurance policy that covered acts of terrorism, and he made out like a bandit (over 4 billion dollars). MH: thanks for the link my friend. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 |
