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Thomas57
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:42 am: | 
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. . .and another!
http://www.physicsguy.com/ftl/html/FTL_part1.html#sec:timedim |
Markcampbell
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Post Number: 865
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2014 - 11:44 pm: |
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I really love time travel , but going back to the past is cheaper . Before you bought the ticket .
I'll be here all week , folks . |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 973
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 10:58 pm: |
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hi mark
i gather that its the same deal for the future
matt lee |
Jones7c
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2014
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2014 - 05:33 am: |
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If this has been answered, my apologies, I found this question very difficult to search for: I know according to the billy meier material this next example is impossible but for sake of example, if I go back in time and kill "past me," "present me" will still exists, as with every passing moment we evolve and this are not the same person. So, when billy says this is not possible (to go back in time to kill) it makes me think of this as truly more of a remote viewing or accessing the memory blocks to consult what happened. However, this cannot be the case, (or is only 1 way of many to accomplish this) as I believe they met Ptaah, if I'm not mistaken, in the past. Also, billy has talked with his past spiritual embodiment, jmmanuel, (which is another interesting thought because they insist his name starts with a J, although to my knowledge the Hebrew language had no letter "j". It may have been from the sound pronounced or various other reasons, But I am one who is fascinated by the explanations.) So my question is, A) there must be multiple forms of traveling back in time, is this correct to the material B) what keeps a person from killing another person in a different time, say, because the technology got in the wrong hands C) if it is possible our current timeline nevertheless would not be effected, but I image an alternate one is created?
Thank you for your time, Make luck
Corey |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2014 - 05:50 pm: |
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Corey;
There are plenty of solutions contained in this discussion section that may satisfy your questions; peruse through the past responses and you will find most of your answers.
T57 |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 992
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 10:00 am: |
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Hi All
Excuse me for my ignorance as I haven't read any of Billy's German books or German contact notes but have any of you members ever come across any information about whether any future earth human's ever visited Billy or that Billy's future incarnated personality ever visited him?
Thanks
Matt lee |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 06:42 am: |
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A Quote from Meier saken:
“If for example tachyons, with a higher light speed than of those in normal space and the present of the material universe in any given hyperspace, is stored around a flying object, it is automatically flung into the past, while a chronon flow below our present speed of light results in a trip to the future.” Billy Meier - From the book EXISTENTES LEBEN IM UNIVERSUM (EXISTING LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE) 1978/1993" |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2014 - 05:46 pm: |
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Matt Lee,
I may be wrong but there is mention in one of the contact notes that non-benevolent future Earthly humans did visit Billy’s room at the SSSC and altered some of his writings and stole some things.
And I think it’s not possible, at least for the current moment for Billy’s future personality to visit him because of the laws of free will still exists with Billy’s present personality that “generates” or creates the necessary experiences and knowledge required by his spirit-form in order to determine which personality it will incarnate in. His current personality will have to be completely dissolved in order for the new personality to be incarnated by his spirit-form, but maybe in his case since the spirit-form has already evolved pass the material and half-material stages and once dwelled in the pure spiritual phase of the Arahat Athersata, there may be an exception? It’s just my opinion.
If so, I would think so long as BEAM does not deviate from his mission and become degenerate (which is very unlikely), then his second incarnation process has been done not just for the material realms, but also serve as an example for both the half-material and pure spiritual Beings as well. There must be some logical reason(s) for this to occur, maybe free will is also applicable to material and non-material Beings? |
Melissa
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 01-2012
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 05:05 am: |
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Hi Thomas57,
How are you? It's been a little while, hasn't it.
Anyway, a question about tachyons (kind of) to you and anyone else who would like to comment. Do you think it is possible, to record the mathematical equations for the process which tachyons would produce, and store the information of such equation or process within (crystals - such as those placed around the cake-ship) and get any beneficial results?
Even though my idea is naive, I was wondering what was stored as information within the P.crystals which were placed by particular color around their cake-ship, and how this could be applied to our own studies.
-Melissa
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 998
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2014 - 07:55 am: |
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Hi Hawaiian much appreciated for your input and you qualifying your statement with 'I may be wrong' and 'It's just my opinion' as what I have read thus far contrasts with some of your statements but nonetheless since I really don't know beyond what little is in English that I have read thus far I cannot pass any judgement of conclusions.
Btw can you provide me with a reference where it says that future time travelers did those things at SSSC.
Thanks
Matt Lee |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 01:40 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
They didn't say that future earth people came for sure, they were speculating because of some strange happenings around the center that they couldn't explain. That was just one of the suggestions.
Wendell Stevens had a conversation with Billy a long while back and told him that Figu would go off track in the future, and Billy's future incarnation would bring it back on track. I'm pretty positive he visited this person. So I'm not sure what was meant by not being able to see your future incarnations,or something.
And a good reason for Billy not traveling back in time to see his past self is that there is no guarantee,in fact, it's probably likely that we don't even have time travel when Billy is set to leave this planet in 3999. |
Smukhuti
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Post Number: 694
Registered: 06-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 07:06 am: |
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It was not possible to determine who did those things in SSSC.
Bigotry tries to keep truth safe in its hand with a grip that kills it - Rabindranath Tagore
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Corey
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Post Number: 550
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 11:45 pm: |
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Blake_P:
Time travel is mentioned as a attainment in contact 251, and that covers the future until the year 3999. But I hear what you are saying and I'm sure it is still a LONG way off. Centuries upon centuries.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 999
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2014 - 12:36 am: |
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Hi Blake and Smukhuti hope you guys have been well.
And yes you fellas were correct in your words as I've managed to track down the Q&A to BEAM asked on this issue thanks.
Although there is still a gap of 4 years where a lot could have happened since Billy last answered such a question.
Blake do you have the reference or CN for Wendelle's conversation with Billy?
Hawaiian
[Posted September 2012]
Aloha BEAM,
Just one question are the future earth humans who manipulated your writings and took some items from your office still active in doing their missdeeds to our current time and space?
The reasons why I ask is because for more than 10 years items such as tools, papers, sunglasses and manuals go missing from my presence and return sometimes for only a few minutes to days on end and to this day still a missing tumb drive that had very important correspondence between myself and a very high ranking Christian research scholar who supports your mission but cannot come forward with his research that proves ET's were present on a number of occassions on Earth.
I was going to write an article with his findings but it went missing about 2 years ago.
One time when I was a research technician at the university more than 10 years ago working at the engineering facility located more than 7 miles away. Placed a all-in-one stainless steel tool called a "Leatherman" which is like a swiss army knife in my tool bag, drove down to the lab, went into my office and opened the tool bag. The Leatherman tool was gone, dumped everything out and it was missing. So I threw everything back in the bag, drove home and then got a "feeling" to open the tool bag and it was there! I worked alone at the lab and there was no body in my car.
Things like this have been occurring more often in the past 6 months and I'm not sure what this means?
Answer:
The Plejaren friends and scientists were not able to solve or find out the problems.
There are still peculiar effects to be found here at the SSSC, e.g. Guido Moosbrugger's electronic clock which runs backwards here, but forward when he takes it home.
Joe
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 08:32 pm:
Billy,
If I'm not mistaken I had read somewhere here in the forum that Ptaah had discovered that there were future Earth humans visiting their past which would be our present time. Could you please, if possible, tell me in which contact report was this mentioned?
Answer:
Ptaah mentioned the „Erdzukünftigen“ (terrestrial human beings from our own future) in several contact reports, but he did not go into details.
Lepuniv
[Posted July 2010]
Were you ever visited by terrestrials from our future?
Take care
Salome
Lepuniv
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No. |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 189
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 - 06:43 am: |
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Corey,
I would like to clarify about contact 251,
I don't agree that contact 251 is only our future until 3999 when Billy's incarnation leaves. It also says in the contact that these things will occur in over many millennia, not just a couple thousand years. So for me this is over many thousands of years,not just until 3999, obviously our history doesn't stop when Billy leaves.
Billy and Wendell had a personal conversation in which Billy told him about Figu in the future and his future incarnation bringing it back on track,so it wouldn't be in any of the info,I was given this info second hand from somebody who was good friends with Wendell, and who not only told him the convo but also had 6 hrs of professionally done interview time with him about many various things and his time with Billy.
Naturally, when you spend as much time with Billy as he did I'm sure that they talked about all kinds of things that will never be in the info, this was one of those things. |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 - 06:18 pm: |
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Hi Melissa;
Thank you for remembering!
As for the coloured portions of the WCUFO - your comment triggered an idea. It is well known that crystals/gems etc can contain and tune(radio oscillator frequencies) certain frequencies. Further commentary on which (gem/crystal) accomplishes which due to properties requires more that IMO anyone ought to share at this time-space date(even if I could).
Perhaps there is a connection between them and the phasing process where tachyons and chronons are involved. The 'math' for such ought to contain the quantum calculations of their associated relationships with the material space around the 'transfer' device.
from: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chronon
chronon: n
1. (Units) a unit of time equal to the time that a photon would take to traverse the diameter of an electron: about 10-(power of)24, seconds
tach·y·on: n.
A hypothetical subatomic particle that always travels faster than the speed of light.
Speculation: when chronons(qualifiers of matter, not units of time-space) are in evidence, movement is backward in 'time-space'; the alternative-when tachyons are 'present/produced' movement is 'forward' in time space. (if memory is stated correctly)
The really 'funny'(non-nonsensical) - IMO - portion of those who follow the 'Titor tales' that claim travel was effected by "mini-black holes"; fails when it is realized that graviton waves assist movement in 'space' only(main element of galactic-centered sun-systems where matter is converted from and into other matter at the atomic and sub-atomic levels)
'Space-time', as Albert Einstein theorized, was a 'fabric' where gravity warped space(and therefore time) - and was proven out with astronomical measurements in the 20th century. The equation he provided is a fundamental start to your answer(work out the algebra).
In the 'sub-atomic' portion of matter, it may one day be theorized accurately the relationships between the 'super-fine' levels of matter and their actions that control 'spin, orbit and matter structure' - and its changing properties when 'time-travel' is accomplished.
A similar question was asked last Q&A section, but was not enlightened by BEAM due to level of complexity and his working knowledge of(or lack thereof) tachyons and their attendant properties(or it is not a matter of use for current states of Earth-human' progression at-this-time): that of a similar state of relationship between DNA and RNA chains that direct the DNA sequence into certain actions.
I theorize - using data from within these FIGU groups-sites AS-WELL-AS particle physics that there is a direct functioning of tachyons and chronons that would regulate the travel through time in an accurate for human-use applications. . . . . .
. . . which would then address your question as to the math involved to accomplish such travel. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 405
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 - 06:45 pm: |
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"I don't agree that contact 251 is only our future until 3999 when Billy's incarnation leaves. It also says in the contact that these things will occur in over many millennia, not just a couple thousand years. So for me this is over many thousands of years,not just until 3999, obviously our history doesn't stop when Billy leaves."
- Blake
Thank you Thank you Thank you !!!
We really do have to think for ourselves. The future of our society is ours to mold. Who we want to be, how we want to look and act and feel and believe is for us to determine. What environment, what culture, what technology we live with is for us to decide.
People seem to glom onto the Plejaren paradigm, with its direct spiritual evolution, because that is the most progressive social model they know, but there are so many people who just aren't ready for that yet, nor will they be in two-thousand years. Herr Meier hinted at this when he said that Earthlings would find the Plejaren planet boring. By the time our planet evolves into an awareness of the Plejaren existence, most Earthlings likely won't see it as progressive, but perhaps as a backwards planet of monks and spiritual aspirants. By that time, other planets, other societies, other ways to live and grow will be the next new and happening thing.
Focussing your life on direct spiritual growth, where technology plays second fiddle to the natural processes, can be hard! It's a slow slog to windward with no outward gains. Just like today, most people are rightfully gonna wanna seek out the fun stuff, located elsewhere in the universe. And why shouldn't they? There is no race to a spiritual life - it only becomes important when we seek it because we innately want to.
Herr Meier has said that Earthlings will generally know that we not alone in the universe within say 20 years or so. Personally, I can hardly wait, for then the Plejaren paradigm won't be the only game in town. It may be the wisest path for societal growth, but it ain't the only one. We really do have to think for ourselves.
Thanks for bringing that up, Blake.
: )
Life
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Thomas57
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 - 06:21 pm: |
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Blake's site data:
http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2013/nr-73/ufo |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1001
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2014 - 02:32 am: |
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Oh I see
Are the 6hrs of interview with Wendelle by your friend be available anywhere on the net?
Matt Lee |
Corey
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Post Number: 553
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2014 - 09:20 pm: |
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Blake,
I hear what you are saying but I was stating it covers until the year 3999 from this answer:
July 27, 2013:
Question: Hello Billy,
You have made the prophecies in the contact 251 in 1995£¬is the time of prophecies from the year 1995 to 3999£¿
salome £¡
jasonzhang
Answer: Yes, until 3999.
Obviously I don't think that our future stops at 3999 either. If you are interested in future events, Billy presented a book list of books he would be planning on releasing in the Q & A (August 24,2008) and one of them will be called Voraussagen für das 3. Jahrtausend (Predictions for the third millennium) I don't know if it just covers predictions for the next 1000 years or what but it should be interesting. I have been waiting years for this book to come out because it is predictions for our future not prophecies so they will definitely happen in a future tense. One of the other books on the list was released not too long ago so I hope it's soon.
Salome
Corey
OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1006
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 08:36 pm: |
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Thomas but has anyone here or elsewhere or even Billy ever defined exactly what 'Time' is or it's constituent parts right down to the 'super-fine-level' of the formation of matter other than the usual 'fine spiritual energy'?
It appears to me at least that unless we determine exactly what time is, we won't be able to go forward or back in it without solving this quandary. |
Blake_p
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 07-2012
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2014 - 06:59 am: |
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Newinitiation,
Maybe sometime in the future, if I'm not mistaken, Billy was sent this interview info as a gift and as a part of the collection. But yes the owner of this info will probably put some out at some point. I am working on a translation project with this person so I will see if he would like to compile some good stuff from there and put it out.
Corey,
Yea I would completely agree that most of that stuff is within the next couple thousand years just for the simple fact that this will be the most tumultuous time in our history, but what I have a problem with is that there are things in there like, the sun dying out, planets going out of their orbit,etc,etc. so it would seem impossible to me that in the next 2 thousand years that all the sudden the sun is unlivable to earth people,that is an unimaginably small amount of time in star life. Not only that, when our planet becomes unlivable don't we travel back to the Sirius region to re-integrate ourselves back into our original home space with our relatives the Sirians. It would seem strange to me also that could happen it such a short time.
Anyway,I get it , if that's what Billy said then I would go with that answer as well,maybe somebody could clear that up in the q and a with specifics about the time frame of all things in 251. |
Thomas57
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2014 - 06:29 pm: |
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One doesn't "need" anyone else to make their decisions. The 'Universe'/Creation/All-That-Is, has provided those who wish to become aware; it just takes thought, action and preponderance of result to walk through 'time'.
In particle physics, 'time' is easily calculated(solve for Time, in the famous E=Mc2). At the Creation thought levels, 'time' becomes a function of mass; and therefore has no direct relationship with "fine-materials"(something yet to be demonstrated and proved).
NI; many already have solved this for their own uses. Just apply yourself to the tasks involved, and then use your gained 'wisdom' to accurately move about in or out of, 'Time'.
https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/d5d3dc850933
http://arxiv.org/abs/1310.4691 |
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