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Truthseeker
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Post Number: 373
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 01:19 am: | 
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Hey Vincent, I think it would be kind of hard to build boats from trees if on the Kerguelen islands when the islands themselves don't have trees on them. When looking at it again they are about the same climate and size as that of the Falkland islands. |
Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 05:16 am: |
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Hello Fellows,
On the topic of efforts towards an overdue, large international peace enforcement army: you might not have noticed the news one month back. It had been posted very low profile on Halloween Friday, it seems to me to ensure that media don’t pick it up. The peacekeeping forces had over the previous years many smaller and bigger mishaps - not really surprising, when considering the awkward circumstances of their work. After a pause of 15 years, the United Nations is now once more organizing a full review of its peace operations services.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=49221&Kw1=reform&Kw2=&Kw3=#%2EVHsbIqwiqF0
The last one had close to zero involvement of the public, prior to presenting its conclusions and reform proposal. Without external pressure, the “Independent Panel” would handle the whole thing again behind closed doors, with their final proposals watered down based on feedback from influential governmental reps. Process wise it is still early days. I would therefore encourage all of you to use your social media channels etc. for making some noise around the assessment work just taking up.
Salome,
Stefan |
Vincent
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 12:27 pm: |
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Hi Michaelhelfert,
I think your option number 5 is a good. A mass concentration camp is far cheaper to build then one or many prisons to house them. There is also the time issue.
Hi Truthseeker,
IS island prisoners could still be rescued by others with boats. It would be too expensive to have islands patrolled by military/police boats 24/7. |
Truthseeker
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Post Number: 375
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 08:20 am: |
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Hi Vincent, that is why you also have satellites, drone planes, drone boats, etc. |
Vincent
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 08:40 pm: |
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Hi Truthseeker,
The Kerguelen Islands you suggested are very remote and would be expensive to patrol with manned military boats 24/7. I think it would be a little cheaper with drone planes and drone boats but it would still be expensive because of it's remoteness. That area is prime fishing grounds and I think that would cause major problems for drones in identifying genuine fishing boats from ones (pretend fishing boats) with the intention of rescuing IS prisoners. How many innocent lives could drones cause?
Also, can satellites see at night?
Whether there is manned or unmanned patrols there will be boats that get through just like here in Australia's north west where refugee boats always get through regardless of all our military boats/planes patrols 24/7.
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Geestkraker
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2014 - 06:53 am: |
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H. Res. 758 pushed through:
Ron Paul is practically right here (and I am not a fan of his national policies):
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2014/december/04/reckless-congress-declares-war-on-russia/
And here is a new interview with Stephen Cohen (04 December 2014):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdCcR8pEm3g |
Vincent
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2014 - 01:43 pm: |
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A very good and true article -
Russia Has Western Enemies, Not Partners
5 December 2014
Paul Craig Roberts
"Washington is placing the world on the path to Armageddon, as Professor Michel Chossudovsky makes clear in "Towards A World War III Scenario" (Global Research, 2012)."
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/12/05/russia-western-enemies-partners-paul-craig-roberts/
Much more in the article. |
Geestkraker
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2014 - 01:52 am: |
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Here is another good one from John Pilger:
http://stopwar.org.uk/news/john-pilger-how-the-media-promotes-the-lies-leading-us-to-catastrophic-war |
Vincent
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Monday, December 08, 2014 - 05:02 pm: |
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US Congress passed power to Authorize Declaration of War on Russia!
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-resolution/758
"America is on a “Hot War Footing”: House Legislation Paves the Way for War with Russia?"
""America is on a war footing. While, a World War Three Scenario has been on the drawing board of the Pentagon for more than ten years, military action against Russia is now contemplated at an "operational level". Similarly, both the Senate and the House have introduced enabling legislation which provides legitimacy to the conduct of a war against Russia.
We are not dealing with a "Cold War". None of the safeguards of the Cold War era prevail.
There has been a breakdown in East-West diplomacy coupled with extensive war propaganda. In turn the United Nations has turned a blind eye to extensive war crimes committed by the Western military alliance.
The adoption of a major piece of legislation by the US House of Representatives on December 4th (H. Res. 758) would provide (pending a vote in the Senate) a de facto green light to the US president and commander in chief to initiate –without congressional approval– a process of military confrontation with Russia.
Global security is at stake. This historic vote –which potentially could affect the lives of hundreds of millions of people Worldwide– has received virtually no media coverage. A total media blackout prevails."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-is-on-a-hot-war-footing-house-legislation-paves-the-way-for-war-with-russia/5418035 |
Verlanis
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2014 - 01:34 am: |
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For the prisoner situation on that southern French island archipelago, That place is a paradise underserving of prisoner roamage. Yes, fair climate and treatment should be fair to prisoners, but if they are the worst of the worst then a remote paradise is hardly a punishment even without technology. Sadly there is enough resources on those islands to currently build boats and supply stored foods so it's a bad choice for a remote prison. Greenland would be a much better choice. :P
The problem with America and Russia is that a strike from either side that is not directly aimed at each other, Cold War tactic of proxy wars, will be the most immediate and likely scenario. A direct assault by either will bring about the scenario portrayed by Quetzal, with the Russians invading Europe because the USA will have been nuked into oblivion industrially. America has lost much of it's old super fortress status, but it makes up for it by gargantuan amounts of deployed equipment with the backbone being naval and airforce. Russia's superiority in tactical nuke ammunition amounts only affects land based, and naval based attack forces. Both America and Russia have ridiculous ability in the form of paratroopers.
China's role is most scary but it seems that it would largely be blowing resources at India more than anywhere. The entire Southern Hemisphere seems that it would be relatively safe due to isolationist actions. Australia seemed, by inference, to be the only Anglo Nation which remains intact following the hypothesis of events of WW3 relayed in 215, not including the ravaged Europe.
If this scenario happens, I'll probably see y'all in Kangaroo Land, unless the ravaged North America is somewhat docile, in my next life time.
The single main moral of the WW3 scenario presented by Quetzal( almost wanted to say pretzel) is that the war will start by religious zealots and will become out of control. Russia's motivation for attacking the Mid East would seem to be for reasons of resources and outright revenge because the prophesied invasion of Iran makes no sense because of the current defense agreement between the two nations. The steamrolling of Ukraine seems obvious and almost inevitable at this current time.
Turkey is absolutely screwed even in these current times and I will say that Turkey probably contains the most 2 faced government on the planet simply because it's actions along it's borders with Syria makes no sense. Strong rumors of IS hosting seems too likely because of seeing maps of the attack points. The Turks may be an amazing civilization but they are plagued with strong corruption of government just like every other nation because of democratic naivety.
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Vincent
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Post Number: 205
Registered: 06-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2014 - 11:19 pm: |
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Verlanis, if WW3 erupts commercial flights will probably stop in my opinion. If that happens no one is going to escape by flight to Australia or anywhere. I surely hope it does not happen and peace prevails. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 - 12:39 pm: |
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My understanding is that Billy has said "certain parties are trying to outsmart the prophecies, so they are forcing them to come true".
It’s pretty certain that both the CIA and the KGB are reading Billy’s Prediction’s and Prophesy’s.
I would not put it past the American Government: if America prepares for war with Russia; President Putin will know this and not attack per Billy’s prophesy. This in fact may do just the opposite. |
Votan
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Post Number: 246
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 01:10 am: |
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The way we are going World War will happen.There is no turning back.It is just a matter of when.
There is so much greed and hatred created by the powerful elite.
It will start in 2029 and end in 2036 so my outside sources have now informed me.
joe
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 933
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 09:15 am: |
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> Votan, does "outside sources" mean…homeless people? |
Truthseeker
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Post Number: 376
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 02:40 am: |
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Hi Voltan, Verlanis and Vencent, as far as I know 2029 to 2036 is more in relation to the Apophis asteroid crash warning and 2029 is supposedly the year when Billy leaves his body, while the Plejaren's mission here on earth at that point is done.
In the event of a WW3, China will likely also go to war with Australia, etc, as they will strive to intercept ships, boats and planes carrying refugees, who will strive to escape the war happenings in North America, etc.
I still think one of the Kerguelen or even one of the Crozet islands would be the best place to ship off the ISIS prisoners too. No one is saying they have to live in an Island paradise by any means, but if say both sexes are sterilized and they are all shipped there to one of these islands to live out and govern their own lives, then despite the fairly cold harsh weather conditions, they less likely would be wanting to escape or leave once they make a good home for themselves to live there. But not just for the ISIS group but also for all known criminals from all countries. Once there then all of these criminals will also want to strive to make a good place for themselves anyway since there are no correctional officers needed to heard them around like cattle, but rather they will be given their own basic livestock and seeds to harvest. They don't need to be punished in harsh concentration conditions for their crimes, because they will most likely fight and do that amongst themselves anyway. From certain livestock they will be able to make their own cloths to keep warm and from iron ore they can craft their own tools and medieval like weapons, and from stone they can build their own castles and cottages. All aircraft and boats would then be restricted from going near the island unless it consists of prisoner transport vehicles. A nearby international military base could then keep watch on the island from another nearby island, but without interfering in their internal affairs.
They will be able to go on the hunt for wild pig wild birds, wild penguins and even fish, but while they also learn for the remaining duration of their lives, how to govern themselves, if they expect to survive. |
Votan
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Post Number: 247
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 07:35 am: |
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Michael_horn
Funny.
joe
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Votan
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Post Number: 248
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 07:40 am: |
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Truthseeker
Strange that Billy leaves his body in 2029 and when war will start.When I asked my source and not the (homeless people) that it came up with the same date.
joe
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 934
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 10:10 am: |
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> Meier long ago revealed the Plejaren as a source of his. Who is yours? |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 487
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 05:06 pm: |
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Votan: what Michael Horn said, +1.
If you are gonna spout off stuff, stir up dust, or say something new... include a source. If it's yourself, say so. If it's your handler, say so. It's not that hard to do. Wild conjecture and opinions are fine, we all have our magniloquent moments, so just say something like, "I think that World War 3 will be timed to coincide with the impact of Apophis."
Thanks.
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Mele Kalikimaka, everyone!
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Votan
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Post Number: 249
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 12, 2014 - 09:39 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert
Why does everybody want to know my source.Has any of the other sources been accurate. No
joe
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Truthseeker
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Post Number: 377
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2014 - 01:51 pm: |
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Hi Voltan, is your source in any relation to say "Benefactor/Sasquatch" by any chance? |
Colorado_dirk
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2014 - 06:27 pm: |
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The statements and their lack of sources are underwhelming. And now a shift to deflection? What is going on here? |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2014 - 05:22 am: |
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This has been developing for some time, years actually. What's surprising is that the TOI is now reporting on it. I heard about this article awhile back, now here it is for you to read. Don't wait, read it before it gets cleaned from the internet. (Controversial subjects concerning the (unmentionable) often are removed from the internet after a short time. I believe this one is here to stay, but with (unmentionable) you never can tell. Other sources of this report do exist, BTW, so if this one disappears, you can probably find another one on a more contentious website.)
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
The bubbling up of political will over the Ukraine, esp. Southeast Ukraine, where now many Russians live who are not (unmentionable), is what is leading to America's conflict with Russia. If history is any indication, the (unmentionable) people won't stop moving into the region, stirring up trouble, just because we don't go to war over their new homeland. Even without the war, which they don't need to cause just to build a (unmentionable) community in Southeast Ukraine, even without World War 3, they will still continuing moving into the Ukraine.
And they do have a point... Southeast Ukraine/Southwest Russia is where they are from, if they want to return, then as long as it's in peaceful, lawful manner, fine. But they aren't doing it in a peaceful manner. Instead, just as in Palestine, they are ethnically cleansing the area the best they can, with mortar shelling and what-not, softening up the region before they move-in, en-masse. The region where they want to build a (unmentionable) state is currently governed by Ukraine and Russia. Well, they managed to depose the Ukrainian President, and install one of their own there, but they cannot do the same to Russia... it's just too large, diverse, and willy to the (unmentionable) ways. In time, perhaps they will retake control of Russia, as they did during the Bolshevik revolution, but not now.
Oddly enough, Russia can insulate itself from their longer-term machinations by giving them the semi-autonomous region they want. Yes, this will inconvenience so many people who have lived there for so many generations, but it would be a peaceful way to deal with a people who do not know or care about peace. As long as the U.S. doesn't back them, then I'm sure Russia will find a way to accommodate them, as it has done with several other cultures within its borders. Were the (unmentionable) to make their way back to Southeast Ukraine, they would finally have what they have wanted for so long: a home where they actually belonged. Given this, they might learn to live in peace in a few generations, and in living free from fear of persecution or prejudice, they might lesson their constant efforts to manipulate other peoples and nations. It can't come soon enough. That's my hope anyway.
In a related manner, I have been delving into the distribution of the Solutreans. The evidence does appear pretty solid that 'Europeans' were actually the first Americans, distributed throughout N. America, but more recently concentrated in the eastern half of the continent. It has been one of those (AHA!!!) moments for me, kinda like learning that Atlantis was a real, which I did before I learned of Herr Meier, BTW. The history of our people has been so twisted around, by Christianity and more recently Judaism, kept secret by Islam, covered up by Egyptian secret coteries with their silly hand signals, etc., etc., etc, ad nauseum, it's no wonder no one can figure out who they are anymore. The Solutreans... I encourage you to do your own research on this. It's like finding out about the original inhabitants of New Zealand, in life-changing, guilt absolving kinda way.
The evidence for this is everywhere, from coast to coast, but the vast majority of it has been hidden. When I was in high school, before perhaps, I started learning things that were taboo. First I learned about illegal drugs. I got to where I didn't want to learn about it just because it was so taboo, so I turned to alternative health, which I quickly found was also taboo, so after a few years I turned my interest to archeology and ran into a wall of tabooness. If you think that illegal drugs or alternative health are taboo, you ain't seen nothin 'til you start to research our history. Atlantis is the most taboo of them all. People die over what they learn in this field. More secret than UFO's I do believe. Anyway, here's a start, it just scratches the surface, BTW, a place to get a taste of what this means:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTXCMYjwEk
So, that the (unmentionable) want to return to the Southeast Ukraine makes sense to me. It's where they are truly from, and it strips away the nonsense about them being a religious sect. Nothing of the sort is true. They are simply another group of people with a common genetic background and common interests. Shining through the adornment of skin, this will always make itself known. The manner in which they do this needs not be violent, but knowing them it probably will be. I just hope the U.S. doesn't back them, a pipe dream perhaps, but possible. They have plenty of power on their own without dragging Europe and America into yet another war for their sake. They don't need to cause World War 3 to attain their goals.
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