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Author Message Watchdog Member Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2014 Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 03:38 am:        Truthseeker. Things are looking bad for sure. When I read your post along with other material and news, I can't help but to think that it sure seems odd that the US government in conjunction with the CIA and NSA with all their spy technologies, how come they can't pin point this ISIS clan and the money trail that's paying for all those weapons they're using. In the contact notes there is a detailed description of how advanced the US governments spying abilities are. If I remember right. The spy satellite they have has some reversed alien technology in it. Can't remember which contact report its in but Im pretty sure its factual. Something smells of crap and its not on my shoes David AKA Watchdog. USA Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 87 Registered: 09-2007 Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 09:54 am:        Not only the ISIS, Iran, USA, China or EU for example. One of the worst among the Power hungry guys is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. He is what in Russia and its neighbour countries, called a Chekist, a term which means one of the secret services as CheKa, Nkvd, KGB and today FSB. He is a revanschist like a certain Adolf Hitler once was. His use of tactics which is like hybrid warfare bears a dangerous tone, that may set the World on fire. Today, most of his international cooperatives abroad are among both far left communists as far right nazis. Putin is a very dangerous man in the role he has now. It is a chekist with nukes. This Chekist made his career within KGB and was finally a colonel. Then the USSR split up, and he found a new career in politics. Many of us regard GW Bush as a criminal leader, but VVP is even worse. A chekist with nukes. I read for a long time ago that Russia will be bringing some more light to the manknind. But, that will be possible first when this current government is gone. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer Ramirez Member Post Number: 1093 Registered: 06-2008 Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 - 09:10 am:        Baselineplayer, If you manage to get access to translated or subtitled videos featuring Vladimir Putin you would find him nothing like that which you describe. Over the past 4 and half months i've followed the Ukraine war with great interest and im detail obtaining non mainstream information via what might be called back channel videos ...... back channel in the west but normal reporting in the east. Really the difference in reporting between east (Russian) and west is huge. Basically 95% of that which appears on western television and internet is propaganda and doublespeak blame the ruskies spin whilst on the other hand Russia has several teams of front line ..... absolutely front line reporters who report what's happening instead of making up a version. I understand some Russian (enough to make out the substance of conversations) so it's much easier and the quality of actual information vs disinformation coming from the Russian - Novorossia side is just so way above western journalistic standards the comparison is huge. When Russians (there are around 278 million Russian speaking audience) see the news in essence they are seeing the news ..... off course with a bias towards the so called separatist - rebel - partisan terrorist side. However the realities are obvious. There exists in Ukraine a fascist junta installed through an armed coup arranged, financed and organized in the short term by by American ambassador to Ukraine in Kiev Geoffrey A Pyott however also organized and financed over the long term by ...... Listen carefully for the first 70 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjimDUYK180 As for American involvement. It's about 4 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XYAurSPx8M If you manage to find speeches or interviews with Putin translated into English something refreshing is noticeable ..... he is capable of having an intelligent conversation, knows many facts and isn't afraid to call things for what they are. Compared to the global corporations houseboy presently residing in the big white house Putin is something of a real person with control over his own mind and version of reality. Cheers. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 986 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 - 01:05 pm:        > FIGU's information of course pointes out how much of the problem is from US and aligned countries, pressuring Russia…for which much regret may lie in the future. Baselineplayer Member Post Number: 90 Registered: 09-2007 Posted on Friday, February 20, 2015 - 10:06 am:        Reply to Ramirez: I do also follow mainly non-mainstream news. I get very bad impression of Putin. He tells beautiful ideas but it is just words. I only recon deeds and actions. When I collect what Putin really does, thers is just to call a spade for just what it is: A spade. As it was in Italy for some years ago under Berlusconi, Putin influences all media. Absolutely. There is no other voice than what suits Putin and his government. It is not a surprise is people in Russia are well controlled by that government since there are no freedom of media. Yes, the differences are also huge between the reporting in North Korea and outside of it! Ukraine government are not really fascists, since Putin and his henchmen are by far more fascist and even nazi. But, Ukraine government are not among my favourites since it is as with Russia, a lot of corruption, incompetence and pure foolishness. I do never respect anyone who is over these moral lines. I feel very sorry for the people in Ukraine, as well as in Russia who have to withstand all these creeps. Propaganda in the west. What we see in Russia is far more open propaganda like what we could see in Nazi Germany and in Stalinist USSR for a long time ago. No, I am not at all convinced. Putin is a very smart guy. He knows how to lie with style. Many of the global corporations would certainly love Putin to their hearts, if they have any. As I could say: Shit attracts shit, and all of them deserves to disappear into oblivion. I do never trust a guy who have been a full hearted chekist for so many years. He has no heart. He is one of an organisation that ruled USSR behind the "mask" with terror and fear. Do never, never trust a chekist. Once is mmore than enough. Such a trust is very regrettable. I am sorry for using tough language sometimes, but I regard Putin as one of the biggest threats to the development and evolution of mankind. I have seldom seen such a smart liar and delusional leader as Putin is. He is a far better "pied piper" than the raw and barbarian ISIS leader al-Baghadi is. I only see lies and deceit when I see Putin. He says a lot of nice things, but acts towards war and aggression. Med Bästa Hälsningar / Mit Besten Grüssen / With Best Regards /Baselineplayer Truthseeker Member Post Number: 392 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2015 - 04:48 am:        Just a feeling but, since ISIS recently declared its war against the Christians of Rome, I have a hunch that the Vatican at this time is likely in the process of planting hundreds if not thousands of bombs throughout its many underground catacombs, possibly leading also under much of Rome itself, so that if or when ISIS finally do attack from both within and without, the Vatican will likely detonate this huge explosion in anticipation of the attack. This in turn will likely rupture further yet more underground gas flows with the Earth itself which will then make way for a volcanic explosion. The Vatican has known though various prophecies that this is what will eventually happen and so therefore has had many years and even centuries to prepare for it's final moment. Even-though Christians are the target, there would have to be yet another reason for ISIS's attack and that being that they are also after it's huge wealth. The Vatican on the other hand would have take it's own extreme precautions in preventing this much wealth from ever falling into the hands of their adversaries. Also in the event of a world war 3 and after when the world finally does eventually become a global Islamic State, then I was wondering, what would Gilgamesh do in this situation if he is still here on Earth by that time? I have a hunch that he would eventually open a huge portal that would unleash all manner of dragons and beasts upon the world which will not only keep coming through but also, endlessly feed upon the people in the global Islamic state. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 987 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2015 - 09:54 am:        James, Is this a new twist on…Dungeons and Dragons, with a bit of Henoch and Gilgamesh thrown in for good measure? Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1383 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2015 - 03:34 am:        As almost everybody here knows the US world hegemony depends on possession of and access to oil. Couple this with almost inseparable and symbiotic relation of the Corporate CIA military industrial complex to the oil giants like BP and the merchant of death industries such as Bechtel, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Honeywell, Haliburton and so on its not hard to imagine for anyone to figure out that war is good for business and profits but more importantly the acquisition and maintenance of power. Further to this fact the consolidation of US power also rests with the dominance of the petrodollar and oil being pegged to this fiat currency which enables the secret Dark Order group within a group cabal to syphon off billions of dollars from the defense budget for the black budget projects along with the ability of the Federal Reserve to continue printing money out of thin air which continues to prop up the power of these overlords. So essentially and simply put even though we have the technology to eliminate fossil fuel out of the equation in generating electrical power with some very mundane to exotic energy generating devices that are gathering dust on the back shelves, the powers that be so drunk on thirst for grandeur and power will not relinquish this source of their power which is why everything gets back down essentially to the dirty word 'oil'. So having said all that I wonder just how many billions of barrels of oil have these people secretly stolen from Iraq and also continue to steal from Libya's reserves until now unbeknownst to the world and exactly where are these stolen oil being stored and for which black budget special access programs are they being used for and on top of this does the manipulation of the current oil prices have any links or connection to this secret oil reserve. Oil is an oily and slippery business. Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1384 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2015 - 02:54 am:        Well from now on we might as well call the Vatican 'Vaticanned' Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1385 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2015 - 04:10 am:        Politics by design is never so simple nor does it yield simple answers but simply put all these current crop of so called leaders and supposed responsible ones are essential all the same. Power is a dirty word and the political arena in the vast majority of cases are only suitable for psychopathic and sociopathic types who just love to wield power and control and force their will upon another human being so naturally this dark world will always attract the scums of humanity that will rise to the top just as Billy said. So again and again the latest political raucous between Putin, US, EU, NATO over Ukraine is just a symptom of a much deeper malady of simply having a psychotic system full of psychos hell bent on trying to impose their own will against another to maintain their selfish and egotistical needs and wants above everyone else's. So simply put this whole broken system must be eliminated along with all the psychos infesting this arena to be replaced by what Billy and the Plejaren have ad nauseously recommended for years and years in that we need genuine spiritual leadership in positions of so called power comprising real and genuine people who are loyal to Creation and its laws, directives, recommendations and commandments. If achieved and as Arahat Athersata said that once people know the real secret sciences we wouldn't have politics in the current form nor profit greedy scoundrels infesting the corporate world nor would we have all the current unsolvable problems that we are presently faced with. Having said that and as Billy said not all psychos are bad all the time and they can do good things. So I think the Russian psycho Putin is at least inadvertently doing good by holding the other psychos in the US, EU, NATO and Ukraine at bay with the inadvertent result being that the psychotic US hegemony is somewhat curtailed. Watchdog Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2014 Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2015 - 06:24 am:        Truthseeker. But I don't want to be eaten by dragons and beast ! David AKA Watchdog. USA Jose_barreto_silva Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2012 Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2015 - 11:37 am:        Truthseeker, I would eat popcorn while watching CNN show it LIVE at Prime Time, looking indiferently to the Big Vatican Whore House sink slowly and very deeply into Hot Magma. The best SHOW of the WHOOOOOLLLEEE UNIVERSE. When CNN will show it LIVE on TV? I will fetch some buttered popcorn. ******* Buch OM 32:1979. “Um die Wahrheit zu begraben, dazu gibt es nicht genug Schaufeln.” ...und jene, die versuchen, schliesslich ihre eigenen Gräber graben... - Billy Meier Der wahrliche Prophet der Neuzeit Truthseeker Member Post Number: 393 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Monday, February 23, 2015 - 12:39 pm:        Michael Horn you or correct in your calculated guess. This is indeed a new twist on…Dungeons and Dragons, with a bit of Henoch and Gilgamesh thrown in for good measure. Actually it was also "Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit in the battle of the 5 armies. The 5 armies being in this case, ISIS, the Russians, the USA, the European Union and finally as an addition, the American genetically modified cloned super solders. So if Gilgamish opens up his gigantic portal in the mix then yes we can expect to see Smaug and his league of flaming angry and hungry dragons coming on through, along with many other creature types such as T-Rex's and so forth, will maybe. David I don't think you have to worry about getting yourself eaten by these dragons and such, because if by chance would have it, then FIGU and other related parties would eventually find their way to an island fortress where they will become the future of Earth humanity from which in the next 800 years they will establish a new world peace here on the Earth. Asteroid Apophis will have long since destroyed the portal and extinguished all the Dragons and Beasts, but not until after they have finished having ISIS for lunch. Jose, when the Vatican goes down in a lake of fire, supposedly sometime this year, then you may also want to enjoy with your popcorn some pizza and drink. I think you can also see a preview of this movie shown somewhere in another movie called "2012". Michael_horn Member Post Number: 988 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Monday, February 23, 2015 - 06:32 pm:        James, Your new myth of Gilgamesh, the Savior of Humankind, is unfortunately another form of religious, distracting, fantasy saturated, power give-away that appears to me to be antithetical to the spiritual teaching. Maybe you can tell us why after your apparent absence from the forum, etc., you've returned with escapism-on-steroids instead of some kind of sober reflection on the state of things…and how you yourself are demonstrating self-responsibility in your own thinking. Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 178 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Monday, February 23, 2015 - 11:59 pm:        Hi Baselineplayer, You are right to stand up for the truth. 8. You shall not bear false witness against the truth, Creation and life. 9. You shall never, never speak an untruth. These are 2 of the 12 Commandments of Creation. But in our world other priorities seem to rule. (Diplomatic) lying for “a higher purpose” seems to be in fashion with our politicians. Those continental Europeans … Can they not see that Mr. P. is not truthful? Can’t they see that he has no scruple to supply and use weapons? Very modern systems – not the “Stone Age” Ukrainian army type ones. That he has no scruple to send his soldiers across the border ? And deny it. That he has no scruple that his soldiers and the rebels they support break agreements he made? And laughs about the stupid western politicians that stand for their old fashioned principles until it is too late. Why should the West accept P’s deception, why does the EU not armour the Ukrainians? US politicians may shake their head in disbelief about European naivety. Then again - US homes never felt the war as did Europeans. The Europeans know quite well that it would not be the US that would feel the first strike of the heavy Russian armour. The BBC’s “How To spot A Russian Bomber” says a lot about their state of preparedness. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31537705 Mr. Putin is aware of that. He knows as well that western democratic procedures are slow. Hence any decision they take is an endless procession of conferences. He knows as well that Europeans are sick of wars. That, for the first time in 2000 years, there is a common resolve among them: “No more wars”. So he skilfully uses these limitations and intimidation to take what he wants without a real fight. And he plays the “peaceful or whatever necessary”. It seems he has a friend: “In judging policies, we should consider the results that have been achieved through them, rather than the means by which they have been executed.” Machiavelli: letter to Piero Soderini “For although the act condemns the doer, the end may justify him…” The Discourses: I, 9 But this principle that “the end justifies the means” - is not a new Russian invention to win the Crimea and the Donbass. It was and is used by many other governments. And my comment about Mr. P. are not to create a hate against him. I can see – similar to Newinitiation – that there is a connection leading to the Western and Russian confrontation. The many western colonizing countries they all claimed “land ownership for their nation”. Forgetting completely that they took it away from someone else. Whose “national” pride is it really? E.g. Australian Aborigines will tell you “What Australians call their Nation Day (Landing of the First Fleet) is our Invasion Day (Day of Great Shame)”. On our planet the commonly propagated “international diplomacy” is often a perversion of truth. It is propagated and educated through history books as much as the media. Take e.g. the “Opium Wars” England and the US declared this war as necessary “to open up Chinese harbours for trade”. They assembled most European nations to “assist them” … In truth it was a great injustice: The English attacked China to make them buy their high-profit Bangladesh made opium (for which the Chinese had to pay in silver). They did not want to discontinue this trade even after a quarter of Chinese became addicted to the drug - even killing the emperor’s son. The Chinese may not have had the weapons to win this war. But the wickedness was the winners’. They may cover the myth of their legitimacy like a player would his jointed cards. But no matter how they write their history books, no matter how they educate their children. The universal law of cause and effect will create a balance – eventually. If we focus on the Ukrainian conflict. Whilst obvious lies are hard to accept, let us research if historically there is a reason that the Russians see the Ukraine as part of “their heritage”: The word Russia comes from the Rus = “Rowers” = Scandinavian Vikings that “rowed” down the rivers (e.g. Dnepr, Volga) in their fast boats. They often raided the villages killing the men, enslaving the women and children (hence the word “Slavs” for the east Europeans) and plundering (“viking”) then burning what was left. When they captured the city of Kyiv they made it the capital of their (“Rus”) province. That was more than a thousand years ago when Viking Rurik around (800 ACE) and his descendants founded the ruling dynasty of Rus. They even wanted to take the Byzantine Empire but were defeated (941 ACE). Anyway – the Kievan Rus' became, geographically, the largest state in Europe and were known in the rest of Europe as Ruthenia (the Latin name for Rus'). This should stand for the opinion of many historians to see the beginning Russian history in Kiev. In 1236 Ghenkis Khan’s “Golden Horde” (“Tatar Yoke”) overrun the Rus – the province of Rus became part of the Mongolian Empire for several hundred years – half the “Russian” population died. (Around 1300 ACE the new cultural center of the Rus shifted to Moscow.) During the 15th century the Ukraine became part of Poland. But during the past few centuries when others colonized far away countries, Russia, made large territorial gains - not in countries overseas but “close to home”. They took over large junks from Poland and the Ottoman Empire, especially. In 1653 the pople rebelled against the Catholic-Polish rule. “ Soon, the southeastern portion of the Polish-Lithuanian empire east of the Dnieper River came under Russian rule, for centuries.[5] After the Partitions of Poland (1772–1795) and conquest of Crimean Khanate, Ukraine was divided between theTsardom of Russia and Habsburg Austria.” If we study the strategic reasoning re. the Crimean for instance: There is this great push of Russia – for many centuries – to have a harbour for their fleet of war ships that is ice free all year round… So Catherine The Great annexed the Crimean peninsula from the Turks some 232 years ago (in 1783). Even after that takeover the Tartars (a fusion of Ghengis Khan’s Mongols and Turkic people) were still the majority of people living in the area. But 73 years later (after the 1856 Crimean War) many had to flee. Most of the remaining Tatars were forcibly removed by Stalin in 1944. And ever since a majority of Russians are living (again) in the area. So when the Russians now claim they “own the Crimea” because most of its citizens are Russians then this is based on the forceful repatriation of people that lived there before. But if we see the total history then even these that “lived there before” (e.g. the Polish, the Mongols, Rus) took the country from others – back down to the Neanderthal men who lived there some 44,000 years ago. History is overfull with similar conquests – stimulating an endless chain of causes and effects. The English depriving the Red Indians - the US depriving the English. The Spanish robbing the South Americans, Elizabeth I’s pirates robbing the Spanish. The many Roman, Greek , the many Portuguese, Dutch, French, English etc. colonizations. They all came and went. The Romans colonized and were colonized by the same people. The ships that colonized Australia are replicated by the many migrant ships trying to get to Australia. The slaves taken by the British to the Americas will have their say. The slaves taken by the Vikings - there is a prophecy that may be the Russians (Slavs) will attack Scandinavia. A special form of lie or hypocrisy is to apply one standard for the own country and another for the other countries. Russia would certainly claim that the US that dominates via this attitude. They may say that the US President cannot but support the merchants of Wall Street where “anything goes for a buck”. They may blame him for condoning the worldwide supervision by secret services (Echelon, Sim Cards)for political (Ms Merkel) and industrial espionage. So Mr. Putin may claim, with some justification, that the US is not really this “land of the free”. But then again - how “communistic” poor is actually Mr. Putin and the oligarchs that support him? How open is he for free speech if even Mr. Gorbachev criticizes him in this respect? The poisoning of Mr. Litvinenko… was this a just cause? I know that Mr. Obama is a very intelligent man. His speeches hit the target with a clear but easy to understand logic. I know that without him our world would be much more at war. But in comparison to Mr. VP he has only limited powers. He has to wriggle and wrestle with congress and other institutions. In the US the president will always need to accept “hard-to-understand” compromises. Without these concessions he would hardly be able to reach any of his political goals. I mentioned these endless samples to express how relative, how impermanent creations are that arise from lies. The aggression to justify these lies – especially the one that we call “national pride” – can never bring peace. No human should rule over another or make him a slave. If he does it stipulates an endless procession of cause and effect related “takeovers” whereby – ultimately - the colonizing become the colonized. “Seeking supremacy was the wrong way of thinking.” Anyone reading our history books – despite the perversions of truth they sometimes contain – would gain this insight. How many more painful reminders does humanity need? Would it not seem proper to try a different modus vivendi ? Because the perversion of truth not a monopoly of any “so-called” diplomat. It is in all humans. The method of human thinking needs a thorough revision: “28. All the measures which the normal human being grasps in his material-intellectual thinking, in order to attain peace, happiness and strength, always show themselves to be deceitful, while this constant self-control, of the human being who lives according to his spirit, is pulsed through with the dynamic power of creation.” (Semjase) A time of confusion is the right time to overcome confusion. A time of material greed / “national pride” is a time to overcome material greed / national pride. So our time truly is the time to discover the creational principle in matter and in our thinking. Perhaps, we should have schools that educate the creational principle and the spiritual-intellectual manner of thinking. It seems that only a small shift in focus that is necessary. 1. Note what you are doing - without any judgment 2. Then ask yourself “Who is it that is observing ?” 3. Then shift your focus to this – your authentic self. With this method of thinking the material world does not run human thoughts. The same old conditioning that always tries to reassert itself would be recognized as the fallacy that it really is. The (religious, political etc.) “leaders” in our world would not be able to instill fear. The human mind would not need to be anxious about the future. It could easily accept that lasting creations are creations based on truth and oneness, not lies and separation. Salome, Bill Truthseeker Member Post Number: 394 Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 - 11:33 am:        Michael Horn, I think you need to lighten up for just a little. While I appreciate your efforts into bringing certain things to public awareness concerning the case, and of course concerning Billy's advice about his warnings of world future events, WWIII, etc, at times, I've also noticed you're just to overly serious when talking about the case with people of whom regardless of a simple opinion, speculation or even just an idea, that if this disagrees with your way of thinking in even just the slightest, then it's like you tend to take it in just a little to personally with people and you become all defensive about it, even if this involves some good humor from time to time. I also notice how on occasion you tend to do this with other people over the past few years while I've been absent from the forum, so I know now after talking with several people these past few years that it's not just with me. So that now all being said, had you read my previous posting more carefully you would have seen that I did not actually state as a matter of fact that Gilgamesh was actually going to open a portal in the future that was going to let the hungry for ISIS dragons through, that it was nothing more then just a thought, a hunch, a humor, a speculation and even just an idea in light of unfortunate things soon to come in the event of a possible pending world war III fire. Because I think just about everyone knows by now that you are a "Billy says so type of guy", which means regardless of whether I'm or others are right or wrong about anything, you don't and never will accept anything or even just an idea as relating to any possible truth until of course Billy tells you so. So if Henoch prophecies concerning world war 3 actually do fulfill themselves which it could, then yes you may want to smile from time to time while humanity as we know it still lasts. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 989 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 - 07:34 pm:        Gee, is it possible to be "overly serious" about WW III, the IS, etc.? I didn't know this was the comedy section. I also didn't know I was a "Billy says so type of guy", after 36 years of doing my own investigation, thinking, research, etc. In fact - had you actually been paying attention to what I've stated many times, there are things in the case that I consider speculative that pertain to the far distant past or as yet un-arrived future. There are things that I don't know if Meier and the Plejaren are right about, like crop circles and chemtrails. I'm not afraid to use those three magic words, "I don't know." I also frequently remind people that, "According to the information in the case, etc." So pardon me but you're also wrong with your profoundly STUPID "...until of course Billy tells you so." You don't have the slightest clue about me, what I do, when, why or what I may or may not be talking to Billy about, etc. Don't presume to know things about people that you are absolutely ignorant about. Maybe instead of all your dopey Gilgamesh fantasies you'll blow the dust out of your head and deal with reality, pleasant or not as the case may be. Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1387 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 - 11:54 pm:        Bill well said and everything but in the end all these human ambitions, invasions, conquests, suppression and control over minorities, rule, governance, oppression, displacement and relocation of the indigenous and ethnic warfare are all part and parcel of human intentions and actions that aren't based on Creational laws and knowledge of truth. So throughout history history is incrementally made, societies shaped, the world order constructed, social and hierarchical order forged and the rules that govern man to man interactions are the result of man's ignorance of the truthly truths and the laws of Creation even up to the present which has culminated in bloodshed after bloodshed and bloodbath after bloodbath with hundreds of millions of people killed in the process. So right as we speak every human being who has ever lived, living and will live in the future is compromised with the result being that up to 800 years from now more wars will be fought and more conflicts must come to pass until at such time that we humans are able to extirpate the impurities, degeneracies and the original sin from our DNA, consciousness and psyche. Until then the 'source and the cause' of our failings will still persist with consequences such as the recent IS terrorism and the Ukrainian crisis being that it will be another one of those repeating cliches. Billy has often said do not be like these people with ambition and the spiritual teachings advises us to be like the prophet. So with the given context and plight at present with all the goings on from dominant players in the political arena and the persisting symptoms of conflict, the task left to us is to disseminate the truth so that we can bring the masses out of ignorance and lack of knowledge of the truth this right now is all that we can do to help for the world to change. Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1388 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 - 11:56 pm:        James are you a truthseeker or a thrillseeker? Corey Member Post Number: 763 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 12:30 am:        James you forgot to mention China in your battle of the 5 armies, China the next world superpower after the US collapses. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 180 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 05:49 pm:        Hi Newinitiantion, Thank you for your comments. The objective for my mail: The conflict in the Ukraine has the potential to create a much wider conflict than main stream media in ”far away countries” is able to see. This awareness made me research the reasons – historical and psychological - motivating our leaders. It was done with the aim that they can see a deeper unity among them: Their loyalty is to their country but it should as well be to humanity. As long as their loyalty expresses human dignity and human self-respect it is helpful to evolution and may lead to valuable discussions. But if it is a means to express superiority it reeks of conceit and arrogance - it is to be discarded. “I think we should not control the Internet... No references to the need to fight terror can be an argument for restricting human rights...At least in Russia, you cannot just go and tap into someone's phone conversation without a warrant issued by court. That's more or less the way a civilized society should go about fighting terrorism.” (V. Putin) “We’re upholding the principle that bigger nations can’t bully the small… There have been times where they [Russians] slip back into Cold War thinking and a Cold War mentality. And what I consistently say to them, and what I say to President Putin, is that’s the past and we’ve got to think about the future, and there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to cooperate more effectively than we do.” …The fact that I am very proud of my country and I think that we’ve got a whole lot to offer the world does not lessen my interest in recognizing the value and wonderful qualities of other countries.. (B. Obama) Not everyone reading our discussions may accept the Spirit teachings. But they may still be able to accept the insight we get from reading through our history books, that “conquering” leads to “being conquered”. That is why I see historical events as signposts to make us understand oneness. That the enemy is indeed – a part of ourselves. This insight should develop in our leaders. It may take some 800 years to pacify this planet. But it is us who can shape the environments during these 800 years. Our thoughts today will shape tomorrow’s reality They will decide whether we and our descendants live through nuclear wars and their aftermath or in a more and more pacifying world. "Nothing that I can do will change the structure of the universe. But maybe, by raising my voice I can help the greatest of all causes -- goodwill among men and peace on earth. " (A. Einstein) Salome, Bill Blake_p Member Post Number: 301 Registered: 07-2012 Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 05:55 pm:        Truthseeker If you are going to mix fanciful daydreams with actual people or events that are in the mission material,maybe just say that. Otherwise you are promoting disinformation towards people who may read the stuff you jumbled together. Since we are here to discuss the Meier material,in conjunction with related things and opinions,taking up a half thread to criticize,and insult a person who,apparently I have to keep reminding people, Billy and Ptaah have expressed public support for,why does everyone else know better. When you fight 8 to 10 hrs a day,most of the week,fighting for the mission,like MH does,I could see how it could be frustrating when people are talking about dragons and portals,and how he's not doing the job you think he should,instead of thinking of ways to improve this world and posting about ways of stopping billions of people from dying,weather-catastrophes, overpopulation,etc. just a thought,you might want to have a little more responsibility for the mission and empathy for others. Kingman Member Post Number: 904 Registered: 07-2004 Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2015 - 10:02 pm:        Truthseeker I think MH is always concerned anytime unnecessary elements that contain false, or fantasy type imagery, potentially taint Billy's hard work. Information that is critical to our future selves needs to reach the people as unadulterated as possible. A prejudice can be formed early on that can pollute those that are susceptible to such things. We all create imaginary crafts/stories to augment our points from time to time, but some areas we attempt to use this for can have certain detrimental effects on potential first time researchers here. These are critical archives that will be used by many future beings who will count on our contributions to be meaningful, on target, realistic, articulate, and without unintended encryption by phantasmagorical inputs. A few, unintentional, well placed fantasy scenarios, can be simply interpreted from a poor, inexperienced perspective and create a strong enough distaste to detract someone from going a little farther in their research, thus impeding their chances at learning the spiritual teachings sooner in life. Then again maybe I’m reaching to much. MH has shown his hard work to be honorable enough to call someone out who has partially crossed a bridge that goes nowhere. It's bad enough society/religions keep building these worthless structures, we don't need to assist them. I hope my opinion is taken as such. Salome, a friend in america Shawn

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