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King20192003
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Dear Billy
Regarding to the Phoenix Light incident, what were the 4 ETs that might possibly involved in this event? (Like what are the ETs origins)
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Corey
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Post Number: 798
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 02:30 pm: |
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I ended up translating more passages then I had anticipated, but this was necessary to try and put into context the correct teaching, and hopefully students of the forums that actually possess the correct type of soil (i.e. consciousness) for these seeds of truth to sprout and shoot into plants of truth, knowledge, wisdom, love and true peace in the future. These wise words which were telepathically sent to the receiver Billy Meier by the collective pure spirit level Arahat Athersata almost 40 years ago, which will be read by many of you for the first time, and that is a shame as the entire Earth human race could benefit from the news in this book. I will do this posting of the translated passages in a 2 or 3 part separation, as not to violate forum rules of just translating a few sentences at a time. 6 pertinent verses today, and more to come tomorrow and so on...
rough unofficial translation, may contain errors:
(A*) 741: Who then in the new time opens these and hears the wisdom of the prophet of the new time and absorbs it in, to them you become conscious of the laws and the recommendations of Creation in your existence and your effect (i.e. cause and effect).
741: Wer sich daher der Neuzeit öffnet und die Weisheit der Propheten der Neuzeit hört und in sich aufnimmt, dem sind die Gestetze und Gebote der Schöpfung in ihrer Existenz und Wirkung bewusst geworden.
742: More then that, it becomes the highest recommendation of the hour, selfless lasting love to practice.
742: Mehr denn je ist es höchstes Gebot der Stunde geworden, selbstlose wahre Liebe zu üben.
743: All thoughts, doings, and affairs must become raised into being lasting love.
743: Alles Denken, Tun, und Handeln muss von der wahren Liebe erhoben sein.
744: The love in and of universal senses, it alone becomes possible the mustering of the necessary power into the obtainment from knowledge, wisdom, and truth, through the entirety of one letting go of all pure worldly, negative, and the things and strivings that cause one to badly get out of control of the good human nature.
744: Der Liebe im universellen Sinne allein ermöglicht das Aufbringen der erforderlichen Kraft zur Erlangung von Wissen, Weisheit und Wahrheit, durch die insgesamt ein Ablassen von allen rein weltlichen, negativen und ausgearteten Dingen und Strebungen erreicht wird.
745: Especially the white human-races of your world needs these teachings, they are the largest in small knowledge, and through very evil irrational teachings the entire terrestrial humankind was driven into the abyss of damnation through the white races created delusion.
745: Inbesondere die wiessen Menschenrassen eurer Welt bedürfen dieser Belehrungen, denn im grossen sind sie es, die kleinwissend sind und durch sehr Böse Irrlehren die ganze irdische Menschheit durch ihren geschürten Wahn in den Abgrund der Verdammnis treiben.
746: Peaceful colored human-races became since for hundreds of years, and become up into the present day, missionized through the white races and brought under the sword of submissiveness of your Christian religion.
746: Friedliche farbige Menschenrassen wurden seit Jahrhunderten, und werden noch zur Jetzeit durch die weissen Rassen missioniert und unter die Demutfuchtel ihrer christlichen Religion gebracht.
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Stay tuned! Part 2 will be posted tomorrow! More on the evil of the white race, and their false superiority as noted by AA!
Salome
Corey
(*A) translation into English, done by Corey of "Arahat Athersata" page 90/91 verses 741-746. Copywritten FIGU/BEAM.
note: Full and accurate translation of High-German into English is not possible, so some passages were just loosely, roughly translated to keep it fluid. FIGU dictionary used whenever possible.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2015 - 03:25 am: |
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Hi Corey,
Thank you for translating this message.
I enclose my version - it is meant to assist you.
Salome,
Bill
741.
He, who in the Modern Era, opens himself to the wisdom of the prophet of the Modern Era and absorbs it, will become aware of the laws and directives of Creation in their existence and effects.
742.
More than ever the practice of selfless, true love has become the highest precept (meaning: it is urgently necessary to practice selfless, true love)
743.
All thoughts, deeds and actions must be elevated by true love.
744.
Only by virtue of love that is universal in scope is it possible to muster the required strength to attain the knowledge, wisdom and truth which, in conjunction, enable a withdrawal from all purely worldly (secular), negative and degenerate objects and aspirations.
745.
In particular the white races of your world need these directives (instructions), because it is them, in the main, who are of little knowledge, and through evil doctrines, drive all humanity on Earth in the abyss (bottomless pit of damnation) by their stirred up madness (frenzy).
746.
For centuries, and even in the present, peaceful, colored human races were missionized and brought under the thumb (subjected to a dictate) of humility in their Christian religion. |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 04-2008
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Here is question to Billy answered.
My next question is in regards to overpopulation. In Canada where I live people have been telling me that despite global overpopulation, the Caucasian white race is actually decreasing in it's population while Asians are vastly increasing and overtaking the Caucasian race in all countries world wide. If so, should the Caucasian race be concerned for it's decline in population?
Thanks.
James Truthseeker
James,
Recently I received some population statistics from one of the FIGU members and it showed the Hispanic/Latino races increasing in numbers greater than the Asian race. Yes you are correct the Caucasion race is decreasing.
Scott
No, the „Caucasian white race“ should not be concerned about its decline in population (which, if it were true, would be a very favourable trend), but instead should be very much worried about the fact that overpopulation on Earth is still increasing and is much higher than the population statistics claim. According to the Plejarens there it are more than 7.5 billion human beings living on our planet today.
There is no danger that the Caucasian race becomes extinct, but it cannot longer play a role of being the master race and suppress the people of other races, which is a positive thing after all.
Tien
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Norm
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Post Number: 1564
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Getknowledge, the Southern Poverty Laws Center labels everyone on the Right as a Racist. They are a farce! They are against Free Speech. Every Border Control group is a racist org. to them. At one time I was fooled into thinking they were a good org. but not anymore. |
Norm
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I want to add that if the SPLC were to read what Billy has written about Race & Religion they would label him and Figu a Racist & anti-Semitic org. Infact some groups have already complained about Billy's Aliens just being White. Hint, Hint. Of course they don't care about the truth so they would omit the facts. |
Corey
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Post Number: 799
Registered: 12-2009
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Bill,
I know you are trying to help, but it is very obvious you did not use the FIGU dictionary for your translation, which is very important to use by FIGU standards. Billy and FIGU have worked very hard at the dictionary. Not using the dictionary, or using computer programs to translate Billy's verses results is the false way to translate, and results in grave errors. I'll admit, your translation pointed out some of my grammatical errors for Non-FIGU dictionary words, and for that I thank you, but it is still very important to use the dictionary. Since High German is not the mother language of either Bill or myself, which means both him and myself are still subject to errors, I will try and just stick to what was mistranslated by not using the FIGU dictionary:
741: I did not use "He" or "himself" in this line because it is not included in the original German (er) so here you added words that were not included in the original German. While it is true that "öffnet" and "hört" are in the he/she/it tense, "er" is not in the German original. Bill's version of "Neuzeit" was "modern Era" but it is translated to "new time" in the FIGU dictionary which is what I used. Bill's version of "Gebote" was "directives" but the FIGU dictionary is the word "recommendations" which is what I used. Bill's version of the word "bewusst" is "aware" but it is translated via the FIGU dictionary as "consciously" which is what I used, in conjunction with the word "Wirkung" which in this case is singular, and not plural so Bill using the word "effects" with an "s" is another error.
742: Bill's translation for the German original "Gebot der Stunde" which translates into "recommendation of the hour" (Gebot singular = recommendation-FIGU dictionary) is completely missing. Bill used "true" for the word "wahre" which is common, and what I personally wanted to use in mine, but chose not to as the FIGU dictionary lists "währen" as "to last".
743: Bill's use of the word "deeds" for "Tun" is incorrect as the FIGU dictionary translated this word as "doings" which is what I used. Bill's use of the word "action" for the word "Handeln" is incorrect as the FIGU dictionary uses the word "affairs" which is what I used. Another mistranslation of the word "wahren".
744: Bill's use of the word "virtue" is false for the plural word "Sinne" which translates to "senses" in the FIGU dictionary, which is what I used. "Sinn" is very important to translate correctly because Billy uses this word in almost every book. Billy writes that having the correct "sense" that is in-line with the laws and recommendations of Creation is very important, verses un-Creational "delusion-sense" which is a result of God-delusion-belief. Bill's translation of the word "Kraft" to "strength" is incorrect, as the FIGU dictionary translates this to "power", which is what I used. Bill's use of the word "attain" for the German word "Erlangung" is incorrect, as the FIGU dictionary uses the word "obtainment", which is what I used. Bill's use of the word "withdrawal" for the German noun "Ablassen" is incorrect, as the FIGU dictionary translates the word into "to let go" (or give up [ablassen]), which is what I used. Billy has said straight-up that "ausgearteten" does not correctly translate into "degenerate", which is what Bill used, and the FIGU dictionary translates this into " has very badly got out of the control of the good human nature", which is what I have used in the proper noun context. Bill's use of the word "objects" for the German word "Dinge" is incorrect, as the FIGU dictionary translates this word into "things" which is what I used. Bill's use of the word "aspirations" for the plural German word "Strebungen" is not correct, as the FIGU dictionary uses "striving" which is what I used.
745: Bill's omission of the word "human" from the noun compound "weissen Menchenrassen" (white human races [Mensch = human being = FIGU dictionary]) is glaring. Bill's use of the word "directives (instructions)" for the plural German word "Belehrungen" is not accurate, as the FIGU dictionary uses the word "tuitions". Bill's use of the word "doctrines" for the German word "Irrlehren" as the FIGU dictionary translates this German word into " irrational teachings" which is what I used. Bill's omission of the German word "irdische" (translated into "terrestrial" from Billy and Christian in the Q & A section [polar opposite "ausserirdische" = "extraterrestrial"] is bothersome. Bill's use of the words "madness (frenzy)" for the original German word "Wahn" is not correct, as the FIGU dictionary translates this word into "delusion", which is what I used.
746: Bill's translation of the German original " weissen Rassen" (white races) is completely missing from this line. Bill's use of the cult-religious word "humility" for the German word "Demut" is incorrect, as the FIGU dictionary translates this into "submissiveness", which is what I used. It is an interesting note that the German "Demut" is reciprocally translated into "submissiveness" (which is the word I used) in page 4 of the FIGU Switzerland authorized FLGCanada's companion guide to the symbols book.
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I have been purchasing and reading Billy's books for 10 years, and when I look up a word in the FIGU dictionary, I memorize it, and add it to my 2nd language vocabulary, which makes the reading process much simpler.
Not using the FIGU dictionary poses and increases the risk of perpetuating the very same cult-religious influences you are trying to free yourself from, as Billy has said in the Q & A the makers of non-FIGU German/English dictionaries are not equipped to adequately translate these delicate words.
In hindsight, I should have used the word "centuries" for the German original "Jahrhunderten", and a few other errors I realized because of Bill, but my posting 798 freely contained the disclaimer "may contain errors", while Bill's post 202 does not, nor does it contain the original German, which FIGU requires for all translations.
Salome
Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 536
Registered: 09-2011
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Getknowledge (Tien):
Took awhile to find it.
Discussionboard of FIGU » The Mission » "Billy" Eduard Albert Meier » Your Questions to Billy Meier--Answered » Archive through December 25, 2007
Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 10:58 am:
Truthseeker
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Greetings Billy,
Just to comment, I have never seen an ugly women-scientists before.
I've noticed in your comment about the Philadelphia experiment around 2 years ago, you refer to a Kal Allen as been responsible for this hoax. Actually just as a correction from what I found his name was not Kal, but Carl Allen or Carlos Miguel Allende.
My next question is in regards to overpopulation. In Canada where I live people have been telling me that despite global overpopulation, the Caucasian white race is actually decreasing in it's population while Asians are vastly increasing and overtaking the Caucasian race in all countries world wide. If so, should the Caucasian race be concerned for it's decline in population?
Thanks.
James Truthseeker
James,
Recently I received some population statistics from one of the FIGU members and it showed the Hispanic/Latino races increasing in numbers greater than the Asian race. Yes you are correct the Caucasion race is decreasing.
Scott
No, the „Caucasian white race“ should not be concerned about its decline in population (which, if it were true, would be a very favourable trend), but instead should be very much worried about the fact that overpopulation on Earth is still increasing and is much higher than the population statistics claim. According to the Plejarens there it are more than 7.5 billion human beings living on our planet today.
There is no danger that the Caucasian race becomes extinct, but it cannot longer play a role of being the master race and suppress the people of other races, which is a positive thing after all.
Life
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 203
Registered: 04-2011
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Hi Corey,
I did not mean to complicate your great effort:
I wanted to make it easier!
You are right I do not have a Figu dictionary.
And yes, I forgot some words.
And apart from being of this "white human race" - I am subject to errors, too.
But I speak a few languages.
And my German is as good as my English.
I do not want you to interrupt your good work.
Thank you again for your great effort.
Salome,
Bill |
Patm
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Post Number: 290
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2015 - 10:28 am: |
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Bill,
Everyone has access to the FIGU dictionary at:
https://figu.org/dict/
PatM |
Corey
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Post Number: 802
Registered: 12-2009
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Bill,
The FIGU dictionary is an online thing available from the FIGU website, under "FIGU services".
Salome
Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Votan
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Post Number: 311
Registered: 12-2011
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Michaelhelfert
I believe that the experiment did occur.
Tesla was involved and he stated that it was too dangerous to continue , he left.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 04-2011
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Hi Corey,
Thank you for telling me (where to find the Figu dictionary).
However, it is not always possible to translate in a 1 (German) to 1 (English word) way.
Below some samples to explain that a translation on the basis of a dictionary alone may not always be proper.
My words should assist you - they are given to you sincerely and without any pride.
The sense of what AA meant is still very understandable in your translation.
So it should not stop you to do what you have in mind.
Salome,
Bill
“Wer sich daher der Neuzeit öffnet” - the meaning is
(He) who opens himself to the New Time
“Wahre, Wahren”
This could be a verb meaning “to last” or an adjective meaning “true”.
In the AA text it is used an adjective meaning “true”.
The English verb “to absorb” has already the meaning “in” – there is no need to add in (“absorb it in”).
“Recommendations” in German are “Empfehlungen” - they suggest an advice / proposal / suggestion / counsel
“Gebote” are commandments that should be kept
“Die Liebe im universellen Sinne” is not really "universal senses/feelings".
What AA means is that we have to expand our consciousness / open our mind / to think of love in a universal sense.
The “Sinne” is not the plural of “Sinn”.
The meaning is singular – so it would be “sense” (not “senses”).
“Geschürt” is the part. perfect of the German verb “schüren”:
In its original sense it means “to stir up a fire, to give (a fire) a poke (to remove the ashes in order to make it burn more).
In the AA text it has the sense of “to inflame / to incite / to stimulate”
“Im grossen” has the sense of “im grossen Ganzen / im grossen Stil” meaning “in the main / on a grand scale..” (…it is the white race that is at fault).
(Though “...they are the largest” may convey a somewhat similar view.)
“Muss erhoben sein” - Must be raised (elevated)
You are right, "submissiveness" may be a better word than "humility" and "delusion" may be more appropriate than "madness/frenzy". |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 04-2008
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The Mantra
The West Through the Eyes of North Korea
In the year 2012, North Korea released a film titled "Propaganda". We are brainwashed by our overmasters to have certain perception of North Korea so naturally, you may assume from the title that it's a propaganda piece about the glorious nation. It is not. What the film does is describe how propaganda is abused outside of North Korea and how the lot of us who live in the west are victims of it. It's kind of scary how it takes the most isolated country in the world to break our society down to the most inconvenient detail and remain bang on.
In simple terms, Propaganda is a film that lays down what we all know, but are afraid to admit. It is a film about how minds of the lot of us who live in what we are told is the "free world" are manipulated into dancing to the song our great leaders have chosen for us. It is a film which says it like it is and does it so directly, that unless you have removed the rose colored shades from your nose, you will become defensive.
None of us knows what North Korea is really like. As such, all we know about North Korea is what our great leaders tell us. Or what traitors who deserted their home land feed us with to feed their own pockets with manipulated sympathy. The amount of shit they're full of only compares to the amount of shit Sunni murderers who escaped prosecution for crimes against humanity by getting asylum in western countries overflow with, or the amount of utter shit piece of shit Cubans who have nothing good to say about their country stink of.
The Propaganda film gets it right by calling the western sheep "consumers" for this is precisely who they are. The film also gets it right by calling the western sheep "compliant slaves" for this is also precisely who they are. Wanna know how much of a sheep you are? Watch the video and see how it makes you feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=13&v=OyFH19nm2e4
Tien
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Markcampbell
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Tien , I have no harsh words for you or what you are trying to convey .
I also have no concern for the kind of propaganda you write about , and I recognize signs as well as symptoms when I see them .
I can only hope for you a full recovery . |
Rainman2014
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dear meier:
I am a chinese,I just stand for most chinese to ask you a question about the murderer-ZhouKeHua who had died in 2012.8 from the claim of CHINA chongqing government. this question is so important for me and most chinese,we are in a puzzle about the matter just for nearly three years,also beacause it relate to the government's credibility,please through the pleiadians ptaah to answner me the question whether the murderer ZhouKeHua had really died? I would be obliged if you could give the answer to us~thanks~. |
Michaelhelfert
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After prodding from Michael Horn, I am posting the contents of my letter, and Herr Meier's response relayed through Christian, here for contemplation/discussion. I sent to the FIGU the following letter, which Christian conveyed to Herr Meier on my behalf.
Dear Herr Meier,
I apologize for any insult to anyone in what you are about to read. I’ve been asked to query you in private (although Michael Horn would like to read whatever response, if any, you give to my letter, and through him I expect your response might be made public). Part of the reason for this more private letter is because my questions can be long and detailed, and can deserve an equally long and detailed answer. Part of the reason is that my line of questioning is taboo. I’ve personally been critical of Jews for their incredible deceptions, when many people on the FIGU forum apparently feel that Jews deserve our utmost sympathies for their ultimate victimhood. Thus, this letter.
In researching how to approach this topic, in searching for appropriate questions to put to you regarding the influence of Jews upon world culture and events, I have had to study the issue more than I wanted. The proof of their roles and deceptions is ironclad, and our understanding of history is growing better as more and more people look into it. I have hardly scratched the surface, and yet it’s been more than enough to satisfy my need for adamantine proof that Jews as a whole have lied and manipulated their way through history to devastating effect upon Earth’s other races of people. Thus, I don’t have a question to put to you about those elements of 'the Jewish question'… besides, I wouldn’t want you to have to lie to me to protect Jews.
1.)
My only question which is directly about Jews is this: how culpable should we hold the more common Jews in all of this? Because the Jewish population varies as much as any other group of people on this planet, few people agree on how culpable the Jews are as a race for the machinations of a large subset of their number, especially considering how they have all been the beneficiaries of wealth, opportunity, and leadership at the expense of their host cultures and societies? How culpable are the Jews who have reshaped our cultures and societies to their liking? All the more so when Jews as a whole vehemently deny that they have done anything wrong, how culpable are the race of Jews as a whole when they have utterly horribly ruined the psyches and careers and families and even whole societies of the people who critically recognize their power, and/or try to throw off their yoke?

As a corollary to that question, how can we best identify the most corrupt and manipulative of the Jewish racists? Do you think that Jews themselves should be involved in this endeavor, or should they bear neither blame nor responsibility?
2.)
There is no question in many people’s minds that Earth is still in the throes of a one-sided, undeclared race war that’s been ongoing for at least centuries, if not longer. The evidence for this assertion is already strong, and still mounting. For instance, amongst their own, some of the most prominent Jewish leaders have spoken many times at length about the Jewish intention for genocide (I can provide an impressive collection of their quotes if you need for proof). They have consistently targeted the whitest, most modern of European varieties of the human species for extinction through a strategy of morally-justified outbreeding. Jews have so effectively reshaped our morality and rewritten the stories of our history that many people now cheer the end of whites as a distinct race. Their collective efforts amounts to a polarizing industry which you have summarily labeled as politics: countries that had been built by and for whites are ever being driven by every means possible to accept people specifically of other races and cultures into their midst, then the politicizing Jewish media sets the various races against each other, and then through incessant propaganda and coercion they push for broad-scale cross-racial miscegenation, thus effecting their genocide in the name of ‘social justice’. My second question is this: on what moral grounds can white people protect our own racial distinction for the purpose of further positive racial evolution? Indeed, on what morally justified grounds can any race of people protect its racial integrity from such a strategic genocide? In the name of social justice, the morality of this issue has been so polarized, confused, pushed by Jews, that few people know how to approach the morality of this issue in grounded, non-bigoted manner.
By extension, how can we best build a fair and good-hearted global society from the pieces of Earth’s disparate cultures and races while maintaining some boundaries between us… or can we? This is a challenge to our sensibilities all the more felt since we are not all of the same beauty, intelligence, wisdom, social strategies, etc., etc., etc. We all want to build a progressive society - how can we best build a progressive global society from distinct societies where everyone the world over is happy and free… without mixing all races and cultures into one? In Contact Report #345, you discuss a planet in another universe that faced a similar challenge. Its three peoples found a peaceful approach to their societal development. Is this an ideal model for inter-governmental race relations that you envision as applicable for Earth? If so, would you elaborate on their governmental system?
3.)
Presumably, you are supposed to represent all races of people equally. Yet, I am aware that you and Ptaah keep tabs on how criticism of Jews is growing more common as more light is shed upon the lies and machinations they have resorted to throughout history. A final question is this: Why have you also refrained from mentioning what Jews have been doing? Why do you tacitly protect them from criticism? I simply don’t understand that. You, of all people on Earth, should know the truer version of history. You must know of their broad manipulative political lying which drives us into wars, continuing to this very day. Are you attempting to stave off some potential race war waged against Jews? Do you excuse Jews as the willing pawns of other players on the Grand Chessboard? Are you afraid of what Jews could do to the Mission? In striving to get 'beyond race', do you eschew concerns about their deliberate attempts to bring about the genocide of the white race? Are Jews your favored/chosen people here on Earth? The Jewish people are the overbearing herd of elephants ever trumpeting in the global boardroom; you must have some reason for not mentioning them. Why do you tacitly protect the great lies and manipulations of the Jews?
Christian wrote back to me that he visited with Herr Meier, and presented my questions to him. Here is his response.
Hello Michael,
Tonight Billy and I discussed your letter.
In short: Billy does not agree with you regarding your firm opinion about the Jews.
Regarding lying and manipulating: There's many people of different faiths and races etc. who can be blamed about this. Writing "Jews as a whole have lied ..." can also be labelled as a lie in itself.
Jews is not a race. Besides, most Jews belong to the white race.
Your claim regarding the "genocide" cannot be generalised and is wrong. But what is true is that the religious Jews are striving to marry among themselves (something you favour) and avoid mixing with people of other faiths.
Blly does not refrain from mentioning all kind of governments and groupings etc. etc. and their shady and cruel etc. machinations. There's much mentioning of the Israeli machinations in the Contact Notes. However, Israel and Jews is not the same, and Israeli war-mongers are not in the same category as Israeli peace-fighters or Jews in general. In all terrestrial peoples there are good and bad persons. There are criminal Swiss, and there are criminal (Christian white or Jewish white etc.) Americans (and Chinese and Arabs etc.). Your black-and-white views and insistence on negative machinations of "Jews as a whole" seem strongly based on racism on your side.
A question: Do you think that the Mexicans are unconsiously planning a genocide of the white race in the USA since their number is growing more rapid than that of the so-called "white" Americans?
Kind regards,
Christian
Personally, I am still chewing on this, but since I started this controversy on the FIGU forum, I thought people here might want to see where it led to, and what the end result was.
Life
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Historeed
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Michaelhelfert,
Please think about what Christian said...I know you are good person & deep-thinker, but you have always seemed to focus on Jews or "unmentionables" as you say. Thanks for sharing the letter
-Matthew R.
Matthew Reed
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Jedaiah
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Can't say that response from Meier wasn't expected, based on the somewhat excessive passion behind the original letter. |
Votan
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Post Number: 315
Registered: 12-2011
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Michaelhelfert
We will never really know the true answer to your questions.
Ptaah has to be very careful what he says about this subject.
Yes there are many lies told.
joe
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Watchdog
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 06:59 pm: |
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Why not focus on just being happy and not so much on who's better or worse? As billy stated. In every race, color and creed there is good and bad. How many times have we heard some kind of negative tone used when talking about Germans because of the holocaust? Many. To blame an entire group for the actions of a few is foolish and quite ignorant.
I would imagine people who gravitate towards forums such as this one are far above that form of thinking. Shrugs
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Votan
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Post Number: 316
Registered: 12-2011
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Watchdog
I agree with you.
There is bad apple in every race.
These people cannot control the fine line between love and hate.
We can all be good at times and on the opposite scale can be bad.
It is how you control those emotions makes a person stand out and makes them a better human being.
joe
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 48
Registered: 02-2010
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It is courageous of you to post that letter because it exposes some of your personal views and opinions which appear to be more about jealously, hatred and envy. However, at the same time, this is an opportunity to seek the true origin of your dislike of the "Jews" and hopefully move passed your perceived superiority complex.
MsMichelle
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