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    Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 228 Registered: 09-2011 |
Thanks Memo00, Just outa curiosity, HEBRJN was/is used by what off-world society? Source? Life | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 2634 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Abdiel.... The question should be: Why the JEWISH alphabet have nearly identical letters to the PLEJARAN alphabet? As to what I know, is that even the Plejarans letters were 'stolen' and utilized in the Jewish alphabet; just, as the self-proclaimed Priests Altered all of what they know concerning the Teachings, etc; making all the TRUE Prophets as being Jews, as well as Jmmanuel, etc. And, changing all Creational Teachings into a (Distorted) Cult Religion, which led Man astray in the first place...from TRUE Creational Values and Teachings; and, which results, we see around us today: WARS, etc..... Edward. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 579 Registered: 03-2004 |
I don´t know. Source: And still they fly. Salome | ||
Thomas57 Member Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2009 |
Anyone reading the 'unofficial' translation for Contact report 544 'pick-up' upon Ptaah's comments on the Federal Reserve Act? | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 249 Registered: 09-2011 |
I have been pondering on Ptaah's comments about this in CR544 as well. Not sure if it's a translation-induced ambiguity or what, but that JFK made a mistake in bucking the Fed's control of our monetary supply is anathema to how I have thought of the Federal Reserve. It is a consortium of private finance houses, after all. I hate to speak for others, but I know some other people have also noticed it. Life | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 641 Registered: 07-2009 |
> Here's something that Dyson wrote to me re the JFK info, "It seems = simpler to me. If "he [JFK ] secretly enacted a law", (denn er erliess = im Jahr 1963 heimlich ein Gesetz) then, even though the "the Fed=92s ( = being a private corporation) point of view, Kennedy=92s banknotes were = counterfeit money" (Von der Fed aus gesehen handelte es sich bei = Kennedys Noten also um Falschgeld) the enacted law meant that it wasnot = illegal." | ||
Verlanis Member Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2012 |
You weren't the only one at all concerning the FED act. The Plejaren indifference to just and unjust law has been of profound annoyance, even to the point of being absurdly ignorant at times. Blessed be those who watch and those who turn the key. I will contribute in the way I can. My goal is to help in all areas that I can. I will think, and I will develope. Truth is to be discovered and explored. -- | ||
Ramirez Member Post Number: 808 Registered: 06-2008 |
Errr, can anyone paste the relevant part ? Ptaah has a way of saying things where his statements must be read between the lines. Example regarding 9/11 where he says something along the lines of the official investigation reports findings being accurate .... which official investigation though ? 9/11 commission or the Plejaran one ? See how it works where words can have multiple meanings depending on how they are read .... into. He doesn't lie and sometimes sounds improbable till that factor of what exactly is in his mind as he speaks is considered and their way of saying things where some ambiguity is called for in the situation. Cheers. | ||
Thomas57 Member Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2009 |
My 'take' on what Michael Horn shared within Dyson's commentary, - and I can stand correction, if my conclusion is inaccurate: that Kennedy's Exe Order 11110(http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm) was 'legal' in the way it came about. However; (IMO of Ptaah's statement) the statement refers to JFK's using those US notes(/silver certificates) to pay troops involved in a war(Vietnam) was not something correct and made him a participant in war-actions(against Creational Law)(IMO). Here's the reference: (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544) at this section: "Auch der Präsident John F. Kennedy war nicht besser, denn er erliess im Jahr 1963 heimlich ein Gesetz, das ihm ermöglichte, Unmengen Geld zu drucken, wovon das Finanzministerium 4,2 Milliarden Dollar ausgegeben hat. Dieses Geld resp. die Geldscheine gehörten nicht den USA, sondern einer Gruppe von Privatbanken, die sich im Jahr 1913 zum Federal Reserve System (Fed) zusammengeschlossen hatten. Der US-Staat hat nicht das Recht, selbst Banknoten zu drucken, denn das darf nur die Fed, von der die Regierung das Geld leihen muss und auf deren Noten ‹Federal Reserve Note› steht, hingegen auf Kennedys Scheinen ‹United States Note›. Von der Fed aus gesehen handelte es sich bei Kennedys Noten also um Falschgeld, das durch Lyndon B. Johnson in einer ersten Amtshandlung wieder aus dem Verkehr gezogen wurde, eben von Kennedys Nachfolger, als dieser 1963 ermordet wurde." " Even President John F. Kennedy was not better because, in 1963, he secretly enacted a law which enabled him to print massive amounts of money, of which the Department of Treasury has spent 4.2 billion dollars. This money, that is to say, the banknotes, did not belong to the USA, but to a group of private banks which, in 1913, had merged into the Federal Reserve System (Fed). The US state does not have the right to print banknotes itself, because only the Fed has that permission - the government has to borrow the money from it - and “Federal Reserve Note” is printed on their banknotes. On the other hand, Kennedy’s banknotes stated, “United States Note”. Therefore, from the Fed’s point of view, Kennedy's banknotes were counterfeit money, which Lyndon B. Johnson, as Kennedy's successor, in his first official act, took out of circulation again, when Kennedy was assassinated in 1963." In the last analysis(using available data), the USA Constitution Article 1, Section 8, Clause 5(as case law decisions also show) specifically gives monetary powers to the Congress to "coin money and regulate the value" and has allowed many presidents the Executive Order privilege to issue orders to print US Notes issued to the Treasury Department, as such has been done for more than 100 years by many Presidents and Sec,y of the Treasury. There are probably many other instances where those rogue elements within the Executive and defense departments simply did unlawful acts to promote war and taking of life and property(especially amongst the Native Peoples!). (last paragraph - IMO) There seems to be more than a few historical moments of Congressmen and Presidents being assassinated after making such decisions(McKinley and Lincoln, beside Kennedy) - so it is fair warning to take steps to accomplish the mission, without dangerously arousing those who take their power from the people's ignorance. The removal of the Federal Reserve System has several times been introduced within the US Congress, including attempts to audit it and clarify just where are the "interest income" went to! This is where we(as citizens) are required by peaceful actions to elect properly educated representatives! I have lived that path, and find the teaching to family and those who ask, the Creation(al) and sustaining way - is better than starting wars and taking lives - even if perceived wrongs are not clear. The conclusion I take from the statement Ptaah made (as quoted above) is that - as US citizens, we really ought to become aware of just how things begin and how to correct them in the future. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 510 Registered: 10-2009 |
Probably the NIST report which was released on August 21, 2008. The one that stated that no one could have survived building 7. Oddly Barry Jennings (the only person who survived building 7 and was willing to talk about it) died mysteriously 2 days prior to the NIST release. So I guess they weren't lying about that. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 727 Registered: 05-2008 |
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544 "Unfortunately, the storm will demand up to 60 human lives. " I have read that the death toll from Hurricane Sandy is anywhere from 117 to 285. I wonder why the Plejaren were so far off? http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6220a1.htm Salome, Bruce | ||
Melissa Member Post Number: 97 Registered: 01-2012 |
Hi Earthling, This may be helpful, concerning the CR 544. A total of 117 deaths were reported on Red Cross mortality forms. The source of information for the mortality forms was a medical examiner/coroner for 94 (80.3%) cases and the family of the decedent for 10 (8.5%) cases (Table). Most deaths occurred in New York (53 [45.3%]) and New Jersey (34 [29.1%]); the other deaths occurred in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Connecticut, and Maryland. The deaths occurred during October 28–November 29, 2012 (Figure 1). Approximately half of the deaths (60 [51.3%]) occurred on the first 2 days of the storm's landfall, with a peak of 37 deaths on October 30, 2012. posted from: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6220a1.htm -Melissa | ||
Duncan New member Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2013 |
Dear, Billy, it's been great honor to be able to participate in here, here, I've been reading your material for almost 2 years which has given tremendous change to my belief as it used to be christianity. I also try to read more of your material, digest and give logic thinking, recently through reading your Q&A, I found a conflict regarding the determination of sexuality of your next life, I've seen a interview vedio of you V.S the Q&A, the vedio says you have to choose the sexuality through thinking within this life for next, yet the Q&A says it's all determined by genetic factors, would you mind clarifying?} | ||
Lemontree Member Post Number: 43 Registered: 08-2012 |
Hi, This is not a complaint but why did that god created the white and coloured race on Earth? I read this in tj - "god and his retainers came far from the depths of space... and created here a new human race and home with the early women of this Earth" P.6 line 88 - if he stayed where he belonged on his planet Earth will have its own people and not this mess that's how I see it... Also it says - "God, the lord, is magnanimous in his love, but also frightful in his wrath when his laws are disobeyed" p.8 line 94 - so not only he interfered with Earth he's to be feared as well - this does not sound like a description of someone like Ptaah more like Jehova. In http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline it says - "The first three peoples who first came to Earth simultaneously. They were the red ones, the brown ones and the white ones. This came about because the Destroyer had done its work of destruction in the Lyran home systems." In tj it says Samjasa (a man not Samjase) took earth woman and begot Adam and a new race is born (the white one) therefore tj mentions the creation of a race it does not say immigration of 1 or 3... So can someone clarify please? With these confusions I certainly can't believe Meier. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 549 Registered: 08-2010 |
Lemontree, We (human beings) have to be careful. We often only see what we want to see and find only what we want to see. Also, the genetically altered (aggressive) human beings came here from a completely different place and people. Semjasa did no wrong nor did he commit any evil. The parents of Jmmanuel were in possession of certain knowledge and the mission and knew what was required of them and were willing and determined participants (kind of like giving your word). Joseph was about to react emotionally or egotistically against his better knowledge. It is down right highly disappointing to be involved with a mission of extreme urgency and care, to then have a member of the team suddenly drop the ball...it would piss anyone off (shows that god was human after all). Had Semjasa been of the blue skin human beings, we would have had blue human beings instead of white (Caucasians are not the color "white" -this designation color to the Caucasian pigment is religiosity-limited derived language based on primitive degenerate thinking with a touch of racism stirred into it). But since it has been so designated, might as well stick to using it since there is nothing creationally offensive with the name of a color. Regarding your final point. What does Semjasa begetting Adam have to do with, or how does that affect the other races of people ("the red ones, the brown ones") who came to Earth as he did? It is absolutely essential and correct that you do not "believe" Meier. He himself has stated this and has given very good reason for it. At first, certain things (of any knowledge) may cause a sense of incompleteness or something not adding up. This is not a plateau but a spring board. This is when we want to search deeper and think clearer and more broadly, expanding the horizon of our view and using our rationale and intellect to discover and recognize the truth of any knowledge or claims. Salome, Eddie | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 469 Registered: 12-2009 |
Lemontree, Good question. The 3 peoples of 22 million years ago later departed this planet and then deported criminals to this planet who later died out. The procreation of Adam (and the white race, red race, and dark races by three different colored ET's and earthly wives, Semjasa being one of them- OM canon 31:560-31:562) which happened AFTER there were native earthlings already and was only roughly 13,500 years ago (new corrected TJ 2011 edition page 13 German only) so the bottom line is these were TWO separate events that happened over the course of Earth history. something from the archives to tie it all together: Question: March 22, 2008 Greetings to you again, Billy! In the 238th Contact, it says that the first genuinely recognizable human forms of life were created on the oldest planets of our Milky Way system about 9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago, and, before these then became real humans, who could really be designated human, certainly yet nearly another 1,000,000 years passed, or perhaps even more. However, in the 236th Contact, it says the following: Ptaah 191. The first three peoples who first came to Earth were simultaneously the red ones, the brown ones and the white ones. 193. That was about 22,000,000 years ago as the Destroyer had done its work of destruction in the Lyran home systems. If these dates are correct, then the first human life forms on Earth were extraterrestrial. I wonder if you could clarify what happened to these earliest inhabitants; i.e. did they degenerate, did they move on to another planet or die off altogether? Kind regards Bob Answer: The first incident relates to the human beings who originated here on Earth, the “earthlings”. The second one relates to extraterrestrials who came to Earth. According to the 70th contact it was the Plejaren’s ancestors who visited Earth for the first time 22 million years ago. However, they withdrew again and later deported criminals to earth and left them here. ------- Salome Corey OM 32:2171 Die unschätzbarsten Schätze sind die Wahrheit, das Wissen, die Liebe und die Logik in Weisheit. The priceless treasures are the truth, the knowledge, the love and the logic in wisdom. | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 06-2013 |
"Answer: The first incident relates to the human beings who originated here on Earth, the “earthlings”. " Hi, is this referring to the brown (African) race? | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 241 Registered: 07-2006 |
Sorry Lemontree my last post was in response to your request for clarification. Salome PatM | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 242 Registered: 07-2006 |
Joe, All versions of the TJ produced before the 2011 version were based on an incorrect translation by Isa Rashid (who with Billy discovered the scroll in 1963) due to his ingrained background as a Greek-Orthodox lay priest. Due to this much of his translations included his own religious-based understanding of things and in many cases replaced items in the scroll with information verbatim from the New Testament and omitted many things that didn't correspond with what he had been taught as a Greek Orthodox lay priest. This includes the misinterpretation of the word 'God' when what was actually written was "JHWH" (Jschwisch). Below are my translations (which may contain errors) from the corrected 2011 version of the Talmud Jmmanuel which can be obtained (in German) from FIGU at: https://figu.org/shop/b%C3%BCcher/talmud-jmmanuel?language=en There is also more information re: the 2011 version of the Talmud Jmmanuel on this forum at: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/2200/11742.html?1348157841 RE: "god and his retainers came far from the depths of space... and created here a new human race and home with the early women of this Earth" P.6 line 88 in the corrected 2011 version Chapter 1 page 19 verse 88: 88. Behold, the JHWH and his followers came from far away out of the deepness of the heavens (wide space), where themselves from a strict servitude dissolved (liberated) and with the early pre-women of this earth a new race fathered and a new homeland found. 88. Sehet, der JHWH und sein Gefolge kommeten weither aus den Tiefen des Himmels (Weitenraumes), wo sie sich von einer strengen Knechtschaft löseten (befreiten) und mit den frühen Vorweibern dieser Erde eine neue Rasse zeugeten und eine neue Heimat findeten. RE: "God, the lord, is magnanimous in his love, but also frightful in his wrath when his laws are disobeyed" p.8 line 94 in the corrected 2011 version Chapter 1 page 22 verse 94: 94. The JHWH, the master of the sons of heaven, is magnanimous in his love, thus however excited in his rage, if his legislations (laws) are disregarded. 94. Der JHWH, der Herr der Himmelssöhne, ist grossmütig in seiner Liebe, also aber erreget in seinem Zorn, allso seine Gesetzgebung missachtet werdet. RE: In tj it says Samjasa (a man not Samjase) took earth woman and begot Adam and a new race is born (the white one) therefore tj mentions the creation of a race it does not say immigration of 1 or 3... Regarding the other two extraterrestrial races, will refer you to a question I posted to Billy in 2002: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/3296.html?1043822889#POST9478 Regarding your final comment: With these confusions I certainly can't believe Meier. There is no desire to change your opinion or beliefs. Only to present the truth as it is understood. It is your choice what to do with it. From FIGU's website: "the members of the 'Free Community of Interests' are also not blind believers that connect to any belief-teachings, but rather they are human beings in search of the truth." Hope this helps Salome PatM | ||
Lemontree Member Post Number: 44 Registered: 08-2012 |
Hi, ok, but why did Samjasa "grabbed" an Earth woman and created a new race? What's the reason for the creation of a new race? When I read tj first time I thought earth was filled with people (of earth the natural ones, not aliens or new races) and the aliens simple came to teach them and help them, that sounds a good & helpful deed although in my view it's still a bit like intrusion. But apparently the same people that need the help and teaching are the same ones created by the aliens. Jmmanuel teaching them that god is their creator not creator of universe that's the biggest challenge to understand they had it seems. So I concluded if no new race was created Earth would have its own people and that sounds naturally correct. There wouldn't have to be any concepts of god vs creation or stuff like that. So it's like first they made the mistake of creating a new race and the people started to think god is maker of universe, then they sent prophets to fix their thinking. Also about the numbers Corey if first humans in this galaxy originated 9,000,000 to 12,000,000 years ago then either 22,000,000 years ago those humans came from another galaxy or this is the correct number: 28,000,000 first humans in galaxy: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline - "28,000,000 years ago - The first humans, in their original form, came into being on the oldest planetary systems of our galaxy." | ||
Lemontree Member Post Number: 59 Registered: 08-2012 |
Patm I posted my last post before I saw your explanation, so ignore it. As a note: Semjasa was in Arus time one of the Bafath group and he did make something wrong because he found female (creature not plain human like us, Eve tamed her and what not) and created Adam and that's how the white race began all according to contact 9: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_9 In TJ (version of 2007) it's a bit misleading since god and his guardian angels are referred to as benevolent, but only those that came much later (Plejos, etc) were in fact benevolent, certainly not Arus. So now I know why the 3 races where created (revealed in contact 9). Also I find it really strange that Jehovan and Arus are called IHWH just like Ptaah (Billy's contact) yet they're completely his opposite in their actions... | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 100 Registered: 01-2011 |
Dear Lemontree, (Semjasa was in Arus time one of the Bafath group) Are you sure of the validity of this statement about being with the Bafath. Could you clarify that a little bit more please I'm somewhat confused! Thank you kindly! "Creation doesn't give us what we want! We give creation what it ultimately needs! And anyone who never has made a mistake in his whole entire life has never ever tried to do anything new." | ||
Lemontree Member Post Number: 60 Registered: 08-2012 |
It's all in contact 9: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_9 This happened much before the time of Jmmanuel... Probably it's best to read contact report then my summary. In brief: -70,000 humans came under leadership of Pelegon. -they lived peacefully for around 10,000 years. -then war again and few survived, some survivors fled to another planet -for 7,000 years those survivors who stayed on earth became completely wild -descendants of the survivors who fled returned to Earth -then these who returned build Atlantis and Mu -they again lived in peace for thousands of years -but later few scientists tried to gain power again but the people "where angry" so this group of scientists fled Earth (these are Bafath group then became called) -this group returned millenia later under cruel leader called Arus. -they attacked Mu and Atlantis and destroyed them -much time later some of these people mated with human-like creatures (breaking one of Arus rules), Semjasa took one named Eve and begot Adam and white race was created, in this mating way also 2 other races where created... -Arus seized and killed who did these acts -then Arus decided to rule over these 3 human species (not in a rightful way)! |
