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Vincent
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Post Number: 252
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Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Tat_tvam_asi,

Thanks for that informative bit of info!

A while ago I saw a documentary about the major problem many Chinese males have in finding a female wife. There is a huge imbalance with the male to female ratio there and females now are being super choosy with who they pick to marry. They have many dating sites there where it is compulsory for males to include their wealth, job, salary, inheritance, ect. Needless to say the ones that do not have much wealth do NOT get any responses, regardless of how attractive they may be.

At the end of the documentary it said many poor Chinese families/couples prefer to have a female baby so she can marry a wealthy man.
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Cpl
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Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2015 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Vincent,

"...many poor Chinese families/couples prefer to have a female baby so she can marry a wealthy man."

And so the wheels turn. I was thinking this only the other day: How ironic is the imbalanced idea in China that one must have a male child because they are ultimately worth more. The few women extent now will have their choice of the many men and so will soon become the new ones with the power -- again, just as Meier has predicted for this century.

Any imbalance must one day revert to the norm, or swing to its opposite.
Chris

Use to the full both your heart and your head; and never lose either.
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Watchdog
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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi.

Thank you for that informative lesson. My mind is an open bucket that never truly fills up.

David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Norm
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clip from the movie Mother: Caring for 7 Billion (2011) featuring Albert Bartlett.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JT09s25rO4
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David if I had one suggestion get a smaller bucket that'll solve it.
Just kidding
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Joe
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Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For The Love Of Pork: Antibiotic Use On Farms Skyrockets Worldwide

http://boisestatepublicradio.org/post/love-pork-antibiotic-use-farms-skyrockets-worldwide

Billy and the Plejaren have said a number of times in the contact notes about the dangerously increasing overpopulation. It is important that a halt on all births is done worldwide otherwise the situation is only going to get worse. More people means more meat consumption. If there wasn't overpopulation on our planet then the use of antibiotics on animals wouldn't be needed.
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Joe
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Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems that hardly anyone cares of the ever increasing overpopulation that we are currently facing on our planet and this mother of 13 is certainly no exception.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2015/04/13/German-woman-65-has-13-children-says-shes-pregnant-with-quadruplets/1431428900395/?spt=mps
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2015 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tax time
Were I live cause and effect is not understood at all. We have tax item that is called earned income credit, this is supposed help pay for child care so that both poor parents can work. This is unlike any other deduction no prove required, and no limits. Now the real kiss in the teeth most of the people I know that take this use grand parents, parents, other people for free. It even gets better when the children reach six years of age my property tax pays for the setter its called school and sports programs. So have more kids when the number gets to high you could get housing assistance, medicaid, food stamps, heating assistance, free dental care and the community center for the teenage years. It would be cheaper on me if they just paid for birth control and a four degree program to start with. If your culture does this start complaining limits should at least apply.
Peace
Billy Wilson
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2015 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although it's introduced through the auspices of overpop, the implications for cultural manipulation are far-reaching. This is one tool that the FIGU could use, if it so chose.
Thought-provoking, not the least in how openly cultural manipulation is discussed.

from Yale Courses, #22 in a series on overpop, Media and Fertility Transition in DC's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6Sg0UQHhM
Life
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Marbar
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Posted on Monday, April 27, 2015 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since this world is overpopulation, this article can explain how many species could go extinct: http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/earth-is-on-the-edge-of-a-sixth-extinction/ar-BBiKwqK?ocid=mailsignout
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2015 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.familyplanning2020.org/articles/8179

Link to an overpopulation movement's executive director's article, and a movement pro-family planning for women and girls, funded by UKAID, USAID, and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation (Melinda is a big anti-overpopulation advocate despite Catholic faith), hosted by the United Nations Foundation.

I suppose 274 million on birth control is better then 0 million on birth control. They are also doing work in a lot of 3rd world countries where the population is expected to triple this century.

They are rallying support from other world governments, which is a small positive (+) step, considering they are up against some very negative (-) religious and political-religious powers.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cory,

Doctor Fights Overpopulation with Nonsurgical Contraceptive. Jeffrey Jensen, of the Oregon Health and Science University, was awarded a $5 million grant by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in October – and is reportedly seeking further funding to continue his work.

http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2015/05/doctor-fights-overpopulation-nonsurgical-contraceptive#comment-2039537099
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, May 22, 2015 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Norm!
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, June 19, 2015 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it seems like the African Media is starting to question whether Overpopulation is a problem. That's the last thing the world needs.

http://www.naij.com/461600-mawuna-koutonin-on-the-myth-of-overpopulated-africa.html
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2015 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm,

This is ridiculous, according to terrestrial population "experts", Africa's population is set to triple this century. They are suffering from some serious desertification issues, both from overpop, climate change, as well as from increased livestock due to population explosion (eating vegetation and trampling topsoil), not to mention water stress scarcity from drilling the wells dry. Africa is set to be in a bad spot this century.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Stefan_z2
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2015 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

Most of you will already have read it in the news. But in case that you missed it, the pope has once more failed correcting course.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/ideology-subsumes-empiricism-in-pope-s-climate-encyclical/

Salome,
Stefan
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Yetan11
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think among the issues of Earth with regards to overpopulation, nuclear testing, land and forest over-exploitation, climate change, drugs and chemical abuse etc; overpopulation stands out as its lead problem. If the overpopulation issue of Earth can be tackled, its other issues can be alleviated naturally to a certain extent.

Unfortunately, Earth does not possess a global Authority of its own and also one that only aspires after the Creation's laws or laws of causality like the Plejarens. We also do not have a spiritual High Council to turn to against Earth's overpopulation and other of its problems.

It appears we Earthlings can only tackle Earth's overpopulation problem only in a small way and among its small groups of people who want to alleviate Earth's serious overpopulation problem.

Unfortunately, this doing will still not get its targeted effect of mitigating the problem.

Why? It's because the society of Earth today is getting more and more perverted due to the advent of technology; whereby, pornography became so widespread just because there is demand, we, human have an 'animal' inside us who are tempted to watch porn if given a chance and there is supply, profit and easy currency to churn. By buying a smart telephone, every school boy and girl has a 'licence' to watch porn over it. Practically, every youngster is bombarded with pornography and there is tendency to have sex again and again with the outcome to procreate and add number to the world population or sadly, the abortion or killing of new spiritual lives.

How to control Earth's overpopulation problem when we churning more and more pornography websites everyday?

Sorry, I've no clue how the number of people on Earth can be cut down really. (Though the Plejarens have made their proposals, which government of the world will come up with law to control its country's population?)

It's the saddest tragedy of human existence. We're indirectly stuffing ourselves to death and war via pleasure and sex unfortunately.
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Watchdog
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok... It clear now that everyone here knows that over population is one of the main problems on Earth.
Lets comment on how to tackle this problem.

How do we educate the whole world on birth control ?
(Points at a random person in the circle and says. You! Your up.)
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(moderators: please accept this post instead of the other one in qeue, as I corrected an error)

Sorry for the wait, but there were lots of corrections, and more corrections. I wanted this as perfect as humanly possible, considering the severity of the topic.

in Billy's German book: "Arahat Athersata", written in 1975, pages 21-24, verses 10-36 contain excellent information on overpopulation. Here is a brief translation of Arahat Athersata's words that will happen in 3 separate posts (*A/rough unofficial translation MAY CONTAIN ERRORS):

10. Und dass der Erdenmenschen der Formel der einfachen Vermehrung Folge leistet und alle schöpferisch-natürlichen Gesetze missachtet, ist für jeden Menschen erkennbar, der sich auch in geringen Bahnen bewusstseinmässiger Entwicklung bewegt:

10. And that the Earth human complies with the formula of simple reproduction, and disregards all creative-natural laws, this is recogniseable for every human-being, even if he follows the basic guidelines of consciousness-based development.

11. Masslos und haltlos vermehrt sich die Menschheit und zeugt Nachkommen in unkontrollierbarer, unheiliger Form.

11. The humankind increases immoderately and unrestrained, and procreates descendants uncontrollably, in a disastrous form.

12. Vermag eure Erde 500 Millionen menschliche Lebensformen zu tragen und zu ernähren, so zeugte der Erdenmensch aber and die 3,5 Milliarden (2004 = 7,5 Milliarden) Meschenwesen und trieb in nur wenigen Jahrhunderten eine derartig Überbevölkerung heran, dass Millionen eines abartigen Todes sterben müssen.

12. Your Earth can support and nourish 500 million human life-forms, but the Earth human procreated 3.5 billion (2004 = 7.5 billion) human-beings, and in only a few centuries the overpopulation has grown so much, that millions must have to die an abnormal death.

13. Durch die Unvernunft und religiösen Irrlehren der Erdenmenschen wurde die Masse der Menschheit ins Uferlose getrieben, wodurch sich die auf eine kleine Menschheit begrenzten und eindämmbaren Probleme auf eine namenlose Masse ausbreiten und unkontrollierbar wurden.

13. Because of irrationality, and irrational religious teachings of the Earth humans, the mass of humankind were driven into infinite numbers, whereby problems, which -if applied to a smaller portion of humankind, were restricted and restrainable, spread-out to the nameless masses, and became uncontrollable.

14. So wurde mit der Brechnung und Missachtung des Gesetzes der Arterhaltung in nur wenigen Jahrhunderten die Menschheit zu einer Masse der Überbevölkerung getrieben, und zwangläufig stiegen mit ihr auch alle Probleme, Nöte und Ausartungen.

14. So by breaking and disregarding the law of species conservation, in only a few centuries, the humankind was driven into a mass of overpopulation, and with it, inevitably all their problems, hardships, and Ausartungen grew. (* note: Explanation of the Plejaren language scientists, given to Billy August 27, 2010: Ausartung = a very bad get-out of the control of the good human nature. Source = Ausartung).

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AA states that (*B): it is the task of all earthly human-beings to restrain the overpopulation problem, and reach a normal number of 500 million (roughly 529 million is the number disseminated by Billy and Plejaren = based on arable land statistics [see OVERPOPULATION pamphlets]) human-beings, and only this number will rectify things. This number of 500 million is not easy, and is not light, and first the culmination-point of intellect and rationality must prevail.

(*my thoughts: intellect and rationality aid, and increase, your capability of perception [Auffassungsgabe] towards the reality of truth, and unintellect and irrationality degrade your mode of understanding [Auffassungsweise] to the negative, such as tilting it towards blind God-delusion-belief, thus ignoring and perpetuating the overpopulation catastrophe, and the upcoming millions of abnormal deaths [verse 12]) .

AA also states that (*B):

Families should not have more then three children, over a spread-out period of 10 years.

no male lifeform should procreate UNDER the age of 30, and OVER the age of 40.

A worldwide-birth-stop must be enacted for a period of seven years (also see FIGU recommended 7 year birth-rate checks), so the population number can return to normal.

To be continued.

(*A) = "Arahat Athersata" page 21-22, verses 10-14 done by Corey. Copyright FIGU/BEAM. FIGU Dictionary used whenever possible.

(*B) = summary of original German, "Arahat Athersata" page 22-23 verses 18-24. FIGU Dictionary used whenever possible.
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Str0323
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Everyone.

Corey thank you for the translation.

What do you think is the best way to learn the German language? What methods worked for you?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
Peace,
Scott Reed.
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Corey
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott Reed,

The way I personally learned German was the homemade style of: the Pimsleur speak and read method volumes I-III CD's, rented at my library and burned to my hard drive as MP3's (free -cost me nothing), which you do for 30 minutes day at your own pace, then I used a bunch of German workbooks, flashcards, and the German verbs 101 CD set (burned as MP3's) that I all ordered off of Amazon, and finally, reading Billy's books, and pamphlets, learning the words as I went along. Lately, I have been fine-tuning my skills using the FIGU dictionary. Each reading session is still a learning experience.

The spiritual teaching is no problem for me, but I struggle with some of the advanced German contact reports, that contain non-spiritual teaching words (scientific German words, and the like), I have to look up so many words.

If I was to do it all over again, I would honestly do it professionally by taking German language classes at a community college for 3 or 4 years, or better yet, if I lived near a Goethe Institut, which is a well-structured 4 hour class every weekend, I would go that route, but I do not live near either, so neither is an option for me, but they are both on my bucket list.

Stay tuned, more AA overpopulation translations coming in the next few days, spread-out in 2 posts, plus a 4th, and final post containing my final thoughts on AA's words, and how overpopulation will affect our planet's future.

Salome

Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2015 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 500 million figure has been reduced to reflect the denuding of Earth's farmland. I don't know the current number Earth could sustainably support - perhaps 250-300 million? In any case, this number seems to be reflective of relatively natural living processes, rather than more modern space-intensive processes, such as using stacked oceanic greenhouses. When offshore methods of food production are taken into account, when cities are moved from the most productive lands, and when arable land's are returned to their most naturally productive state (which tends to support the most photosynthetic biomass), the number of humans Earth could sustainably support rises to perhaps more than one billion. Still, this is a far cry from the 8-10 billion we currently have, much less from the ~25 billion we are projected to have before we reach the expected economic and cultural parity the world over (per UN report).

We really only have two option before us:
1.) deal with this problem directly, in a relatively draconian manner that will not seem fair to many people, or
2.) ignore the situation out of a misguided sense of compassion.
If not dealt with, planetary carbon cascade will catch up with us before too much longer in any case, and then no one will live on Earth.
Life
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, June 26, 2015 - 05:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Part II (*A):

25. Die für die Erde tragbare Bevölkerungszahl mag nach der Quadrakilometerzahl fruchtbaren Landes berechnet werden.

25. The population-number that the Earth can sustain, may be calculated to the number of square kilometers of arable land.

26. Dies ergibt sich ebenso für jedes einzelne Land, jeden einzelnen Staat.

26. This relates as well, for every single land, every single country.

27. Die Wahrheit des natürlichen Gesetzes zur Ernährung und Erhaltung des Lebens ist die, dass pro Quadrakilometer fruchtbaren Landes nur 12 menschlichen Lebensformen berechnet werden dürfen.

27. The truth of the natural law of nourishment and the preservation of life is that, only 12 human life-forms may be counted for each square kilometer of arable land.

28. Ein Quadrakilometer fruchtbaren Landes vermag 12 menschlichen Lebensformen sorgenfrei zu ernähren, nebst allen gegebenen Tieren der freien Natur und den Tieren menschliche Bedürfnisse, ohne dass der Mensch mit seinem <ordnenden> Unordnungssinn <ordnung> in den Wildbestand der Natur und in die eigentliche Naturordnung bringen <muss>.

28. One square kilometer of arable land is capable of nourishing 12 human life-forms with ease, in addition to all animals in free nature and the animals for human needs, without the human-being having to establish "order" to the wild state of nature, and the original order of nature, through his "orderly" sense of chaos.

29. Jegliche Hüngersnote werden behoben und vielerlei Krankheiten werden im Keime erstickt, wenn dieses Gesetz befolgt und beachtet wird.

29. When this law will be followed and heeded, any famine would become resolved, and many diseases would stay dormant.

(*A) = "Arahat Athersata" page 23, verses 25-29, translated by Corey, Copyright FIGU/BEAM, FIGU Dictionary used whenever possible
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216

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