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Corey
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Post Number: 882
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2015 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Karrol,

Thanks, and well-done! That was a great, cognition-provoking read on the inner-most self!

Salome

Corey
Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche
Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124
Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2015 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fantastic Karrol....thanks for sharing
MsMichelle
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Votan
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Greece has been conned to sell off all their assets to IMF. What a big con as they did not lend money ,only credit.

How on earth are they getting away with it.Are people really that stupid.
joe
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Votan
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Post Number: 372
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does any body know the population of all humans in the universe. Not only earth but the whole of the known Universe.
joe
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Tetrahedron
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 06-2014
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I tried to make an account for the german language figu forum and it got rejected sadly, and they dont know what they are missing... Actually I'm more interested in what I am missing from the german language forum over there versus the english forum. Anything sustainily better or worse over there? Given how english is more prominate, I assume this forum is best, but who knows...
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Tetrahedron
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 06-2014
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2015 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Figu english.

I am looking for any definitive information from meier regarding freemasonry. A search from futureofman.co.uk only came up with contact report 44 which only says it indirectly 2 times. The whole of contact report 44 is primarily about germaine being a fraud, and the original use of the word freemason was how he did certain things for various malicious activities done for the masons.

According to http://theyfly.com/cnotes.html in contact note 61, there is a brief excerpt in how they the masons are not given help from e.t.'s, though its just a summery and no relevent information is given. In the cnontes, it also mentions just the word "freemasons", but reading the whole of the report only talks about atlantis, mu and its lyra connections.

Anyone have any definitive information regarding freemasonry in regards to the meier material? There are various notes that mention "secret societies" and the like as being high power players, though im not sure how relevant it is to me and the rest of us.
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Tetrahedron,

Why would you miss anything form the German forum? Check it out for yourself. You can read everything by going in as guest. Here the hyperlink: http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/de/discus.cgi?pg=topics&access=guest

The good over there: chances are high that within 2 or 3 days somebody from the Kerngruppe will pick up interesting statements or questions and provide a usually bright answer from her/his perspective.

The “bad”: the forum is most of the time not very active. And there is no window of opportunity for asking questions straight to Billy.

Salome,
Stefan
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Tetrahedron
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 06-2014
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I assumed billy may have been on the german forums, and I do believe he is on this forum on a proxy account. Though that account doesnt post much. I generally assumed also that it may have been quite active given how german is the primary language of billy and so forth. thanks for the link stef,
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1068
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2015 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> Tet,

This is yet another good reason for you to forgo silly beliefs.
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Votan
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Post Number: 374
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all

Can any body explain this scenario.

People driving along a highway and something tells them to pull over. They walk into the bush and find the remains of a child remains in the bush.

Could this be the fluidal forces communicating with a certain individual.
joe
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Watchdog
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tet.

The p's said that the freemason's are for the most part harmless. Your mission is for you to find it yourself by reading the contact notes word for word. If you find that I am incorrect I will eat a bean sprout sandwich everyday for an entire month.

Thank you.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Meditating_farmer
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 09-2014
Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there truth to Methi Meier's accusations that Billy abused/allowed others to abuse his wife and children? Despite that video being posted three years ago, I couldn't find any discussions about it on this forum. It seems odd to me that there has not been a response to/discussion about those accusations...or maybe there has been and I just can't find them.
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 152
Registered: 01-2011
Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder how everyone now feels since we now know what some of the outer edges of the Solar System look like.

Pluto by far<---no pun intended! has proven to be a treasure trove of information plus the additional added moons and smaller bodies in the area.

I'm glad that I am here to witness and experience the two greatest moments of understanding in my life both billy and this beautiful system that we are all apart of!

There is still so much for us all to see and do for mankind, if and only if they are willing to listen and change!

It starts at home and with us and from there it goes to all the others. We are the light and the beacons to blaze the trails ahead and to show all ways to safe harbor.

Simple as it may seem by walking the walk and talking the talk living and breathing the true meaning and reality of it all.

May our lights always shine bright!
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Str0323
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 02-2012
Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meditating_farmer,

Wait till the questions to Billy opens and ask him instead of listening to hearsay.

Peace.
Scott Reed.
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Tetrahedron
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 06-2014
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 03:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, go on teamspeak and talk to me there on sunday after noon.

Votan, this is a natural thing to happen, especially in psychic fits.

watchdog, what is the "p's"? I can see why they would be a mostly harmless religion, though its the myraid number of these societies that tend to contribute to the dark order that I do get concerned. As for "my mission" you better get to eating that bean sandwich.

Meditating_farmer, this is a point of high contention regarding meier as a person. His son has largely forgiven him, and yes people on this forum largely ignore this about billy to my disappointment. I made a post not long ago about how war as a whole can be largely contributed to eating animals, though it got no responses, so I understand your pain.
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tetrahedron, and others if interested....

It appears you're looking for pointless "debates" in order to justify your unwillingness to "think" for yourself. BEAM cannot or will not satisfy your constant streams of "questioning". Nor can any of the members on this forum.

We have all attempted to ask "questions" only to realize, the "answers" will reveal themselves through our "life experiences". You will need to take "responsibility for your life" and just "live". Possibly, moving on to another forum is another option. Better yet, learn the German Language.

Those are my thoughts.
MsMichelle
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Savio
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Post Number: 782
Registered: 07-2000
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Meditating_farmer and all

I would like to share what I understand regarding “Methi Meier's accusations that Billy abused/allowed others to abuse his wife and children.”

There is no secret on this issue, the fact and event was recorded and presented long time ago by Wendelle Stevens and others.

This event was well known among those who studied the Billy Meier case.

The accusation of Methi is not sustained, and is only based on his impression and misunderstanding while he was a child.

The truth is that Billy’s wife Kaliope got very mad at Billy on that day, she was so mad that she was not herself anymore and behaved like a beast trying to attack Billy.

Kaliope was totally out of control that it required a few people on the scene to get hold of her and press her on the table, and still, someone (Billy?) had to slap her in the face a few times in order to make her come to her senses eventually.

And, it was not the first time that Kaliope’s temper got out of control, Billy was badly hurt and was nearly killed in one of those events.

Perhaps Methi was on the scene, it became his childhood trauma.

Salome

Savio
http://billybooks.org
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Meditating_farmer,

On those allegations from Methusalem Meier, think for a moment how such a behavior could possible match with the all the attitudes, words and deeds that could be witnessed from Billy. Is that plausible?

He had a long time ago decided to stop wasting any time and energy with defense efforts against defamation by press and other media. No court cases, nothing.

His son Atlantis Meier had last year written an article in FIGU Sonder-Bulletin Nr. 75. that deals with some of the worst lies in Internet publications. Am afraid that there is only a German version of it:

http://www.figu.org/ch/verein/periodika/sonder-bulletin/2014/nr-75/gew%C3%A4sch

He does there very explicitly mention the total falsehood of Methusalem’s allegations against his father. And keep in mind that there were all time long plenty of witnesses of the core FIGU membership living in the same building complex.

Whom would you believe? The more you read from Billy, the easier the answer will be.

Salome,
Stefan
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Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A quick addendum to my previous post. I found a brief online statement as reaction to Methusalem's letter from October 2011. Here it is, am adding my translation:

Gegen unverschämte, notorische Lügen und Verleumdungen sowie gegen unergründbaren Hass 'mutiger' Menschen ist ebenso kein Kraut gewachsen, wie auch nicht gegen den Glauben jener Leute, die sich unbedarft davon beeindrucken und beeinflussen lassen und solchen ausgearteten Persönlichkeitsverletzungen, Ehrverletzungen und sonstigen Verunglimpfungen bedenkenlos Vertrauen schenken, ohne die effective Wahrheit zu kennen oder ohne dieser gründlich auf den Grund zu gehen.

Billy Eduard Albert Meier und die FIGU-Vereinsmitglieder, 15 Oktober 2011

There is no means against outrageous, notorious lies and slander, as well as unfathomable hatred of “courageous” people, nor is it against the faith of those people who allow themselves to be impressed and influenced by them, and without hesitation trust such degenerated insults, defamations and other slurs, without knowing the effective truth or thoroughly seeking for it.

Billy Eduard Albert Meier and the members of FIGU, 15th October 2011
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Votan
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Post Number: 376
Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Savio

I wonder if the Bafath had anything to do with that incident.

There is more than one way to get to a person.
joe
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Meditating_farmer
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 09-2014
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stefan and Savio,
I sincerely appreciate your clarifications. Initially, I had trouble totally rejecting or accepting Methi's allegations, especially because he stated that he genuinely believes in the mission and the spirit teaching. Furthermore, I am of the understanding that a true "prophet"/truthbringer such as BEAM is not perfect and makes mistakes, so Methi's accusations were not entirely implausible.
In any case, I now know the truth that the accusations are false. Perhaps I will translate Atlantis' statement into English, as it should clarify the situtation beyond doubt for those who do not speak German. It is still beyond me why Methusalem would fabricate/exaggerate such stories and bring damage to a mission that he knows is so important.

Thanks,
Grant
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Meditating_farmer
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 09-2014
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still, I have to say, Methi's letter was quite convincing...he portrays his goal as telling the "Truth" and "does not place the Mission or Teachings into question." The allegations are really quite a subtle and complex lie (unless he is psychically troubled and actually believes what he is saying, which may well be the case...I have never met him).

"But, it doesn’t mean that I have to accept being treated like a piece of trash. I have to say that I do not place the Mission or the Teachings into question. I can imagine that some of you will stop and not read any further, but this would confirm that you take, once more, the easiest way, that you only pay attention to hearsay and that you don’t want to hear the Truth. Yes, it is easier to listen to others and judge other people like some in the FIGU used to do. I am almost 100% sure that the FIGU members will react to this letter with other dubious explanations and more discredit towards me under order of my father or not or by my father himself."
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Hugo
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 04-2015
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2015 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Savio, thanks I didn't know that!

Is that why Billy and the P's call Kaliope the Cannibal in the contact reports? :-)

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