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    Braiden_miller Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2015 |
Michael Helfert why would it matter what name he use's unless you where trying to use it for something. they will do that in there own terms why not explain to us why you think he should use his real info? now that you have my attention. that moment in time when you have met someone before meeting yourself - my journey in the spirit is like my journey in life | ||
Braiden_miller Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2015 |
i meant to type (michael horn) sorry for any missunderstandings on the names. but ww3 is about to start because we have a bunch of idiots that think busting threw doors of innocent humans houses to take there guns and shoot all who disagree with there nazi tactics (thats why i had brought the nazi name calling into play before). now isis is over played so that the people that are the second half of there military dont get exposed. its like how hitler was he was just the image/voice not the brain behind it... now this is where we come into play. we need to find allies we need to have some type of protection againsed this out weigh of negative action againsed us. i mean hell all we want to do is live in this world peacefully but there are these cowards that just wont let that be and they just keep going and going and going with this discusting way of thinking and because these people choose to take these actions againsed us . because they are more technolagy advance they had got ahold of these E.Ts and now they have a even more advanced way to push there comment deleted ways onto us(time travel to name the least). ITS BULLSHHIT AND I AM NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT i have to much loveing people on this planet that are very important to our evolution alive to teach/learn it. why cant these higher evolved E.Ts take phisical action twords these anti-evolveing entities? you say they have put impulses into these govfigures well the trains full of military grade equipment is still rollen into non violent places all around the us.(instead of them risking there asses personaly doing the protecting why cant they give us some kind of better/affective way to protect the world from this slaughter instead of just shareing spiritual knowledge give us some kind of weapon or beamship or knowledge to do something. but enuff of my ranting on my want to help my fellow people of the world heres my last oppinion on this dont wait on a ''higher evolved race'' to shed pitty on you because i dont think they have emotion twords our race to make that move of protection like we do (we understand our peoples suffering better than any. beacuse its one thing to see it and its another to be it). my words prove itself when you take a look at what happened into our past when the power addicts had contact with these arayan race Pleiadian's but that only helped them kill not save and you guys are telling me that these SMART BEINGS had no idea that hitler was going to be a mass killer its allmost as if they knew exactly that and they where cool with it. thats why i stick to my own race because i feel like thats all we got. (Message edited by scott on May 18, 2015) that moment in time when you have met someone before meeting yourself - my journey in the spirit is like my journey in life | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 834 Registered: 12-2009 |
Ekr, I'm writing this response because you go to great lengths to brag about your theories, (i.e. your signature)... Just because you talked extensively to Michael Helfert about your theory of being a reincarnated Nazi soldier does not validate your story. He self-admittingly does not agree with much of what Billy states about reincarnation (see his recent question to Billy). Such validation could only come from AA. What country were you born in? If the answer is the US, it is doubtful you were a German soldier in your last life, as one of the laws of reincarnation is spirit-forms do still reincarnate in the same cultural and consciousness-related region/society as their last life, so this means either Germany or Switzerland, Austria etc. again, or the Western European region, not the US. What matters for location of a reincarnating spirit-form is the same cultural-consicousness-based factors of their culture and environment evolution (how people think) at the time of their death. I have almost every single question to Billy about reincarnation archived, read both of Billy's German books about reincarnation, so I don't buy your story. I have a Word document of the questions to Billy about reincarnation saved that I would be willing to share with you, if you are interested, that you could study. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1044 Registered: 07-2009 |
Michael Helfert, Meier mentioned this long ago, in: theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm http://www.theyfly.com/1964.html http://theyfly.com/Contact_251.html …and again recently in The Spiritual Teaching in Everyday Life. I don't know how much clearer Meier, FIGU and the Plejaren position on Nazism and its ugly dangers needs to be explained. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1045 Registered: 07-2009 |
Well Braiden, In what used to be the real world, i.e. before everyone with a computer had access to posting online, people actually - hold on now this will surprise - used to use their...REAL NAMES. You know, like you have to do in school, to get a driver's license, rent an apartment, get utilities, get a credit card, etc., etc., etc. So why you tell me just why - other than cowardice and delusions of grandeur - people want to use phony names and then…expect their opinions, etc., to be taken seriously? (There are some actual individuals in the world who do have reason to | ||
Ekr Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2014 |
Before this thread goes way out of proportion, and Scott or fellow moderators rightfully can or want to intervene.. Michael Horn, my gratitude and compliments on your newest YouTube video, and most importantly your dedication to the mission still remain, no matter what you say to me. Blake P, this topic is far, far, beyond your grasp. I apologize if I offended you, but trying to defend your own scope of living because someone finally told you different is sad dude. But I still have respect for you as well. Corey, thanks but no thanks at this time, one question though, can't reincarnations be different ethnicities, genders, and even relocation? I know what you say about like-minded thoughts and influences/ consciousness according to the Arahat Athersata.. Regardless of what any of you have said or claim of me, I have personally recruited nearly a dozen fellow students IN HIGHSCHOOL in a positive, (non-neonazism)  way into the mission and even a science physics teacher that just so happened to be questioning me one day when I was looking at TheyFly blog. We started talking about evolution, she had questions about life after death and even earth's ancient history that I remembered off the top of my head from the CR's. Any who... I will continue to spread the mission as it was intended, feel free to hold a grudge on me: Because I honestly don't even care.Just a reincarnated WW2 German soldier that's trying to spread the mission & survive in a cruel and harsh world. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 63 Registered: 02-2010 |
BraidenMiller, Are you asking for the advanced ET's to help us? Think about this....there are at least 8 billion people on this planet. If I understand you correctly, if these advanced ET's help out only a few of us...what happens to the rest?? Is it logical to help only a few without helping all? MsMichelle | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 920 Registered: 05-2008 |
Michael, this is all I found .. I thought I read of a more precise number but can't find it. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_134 Billy: The first question refers to Adolf Hitler, i.e the Nazi regime and the Vatican. You told me once that the so-called "Holy See," i.e. the Vatican, the Pope, had somehow cooperated with Hitler. Can you tell me anything more about this? Ptaah: 160. There were two popes who got their hands dirty in the game with the Nazi regime. 161. These were the Popes Pius XI., from 1922 to 1939, and Pius XII, who held his office from 1939 to 1958. 162. Both men have actively and consistently caused immense damage to the Jews through their machinations with Adolf Hitler and his henchmen, and both men completely and consciously accepted the murder of more than 4.5 million Jews and nearly 3 million criminals and people who were sick in psyche and consciousness by the Nazi regime. 163. Both popes have criminally cooperated with Adolf Hitler and have, absolutely and indifferently, accepted the Holocaust. 164. Quite deliberately, they have irresponsibly tolerated the persecution and murder of the Jews and the so-called Final Solution, whereby both popes still undertook incredible steps to promote Antisemitism. 165. Thus, the "Holy See," i.e. the Vatican and the two popes, were in common cause with Adolf Hitler and his regime. 166. On June 30, 1933, Pope Pius XI and his cardinals and bishops even gave a resolution in writing that the "Holy See" would not undertake anything against Hitler or the whole Nazi regime, whereby the text of this resolution stated that "as long as Hitler does not declare war against the Holy See and the dignitaries in Germany, the Holy See and the Catholic dignitaries in Germany should refuse to condemn Hitler's party." 167. However, both popes also cooperated with Joseph Stalin of the Soviet Union in a criminal manner. 168. Already in the '20s, Pope Pius XI came to the dictator and forged criminal plans with him against Judaism, as did also Pope Pius XII equally when he reached church power. 169. Naturally, all of the cardinals were also involved in it without exception. 170. The whole thing ended only with Stalin's death on the 5th of March, 1953. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2015 |
I think everyone here (maybe with exception of MH) are nothing to the powers that be and none here should worry about them doing anything. | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 547 Registered: 09-2011 |
Corey, I'm right here. Let's not blow this outa proportion to what it is. It's not 'much' of what Herr Meier has relayed about reincarnation that I disagree with, but rather some 'key specific points', and this because I have to go with what makes sense to me. If I learn something better, then I'll go with that. I'm not disagreeing with Herr Meier to buck an authority figure's proclamation, but rather because I am following the truth as I see it. Show me a better truth, and I will follow it. Long-term objective, discriminating open-mindedness, I unabashedly practice it, and endorse the same approach for everyone else here, too. Hope that helps, : ) Life | ||
Tom Member Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hi Corey, I would like a copy of your reincarnation Q&A word document if that is ok? Cheers, Tom. | ||
Blake_p Member Post Number: 326 Registered: 07-2012 |
Ekr, You are funny. I'm not going to carry on after this because it is fruitless. You are not only presumptuous in knowing what my aptitude is,but can't even accept facts of history staring you in the face. Just because you develop your own opinions about things,doesn't make them facts. If you are so enlightened,then you should be able to educate people without everyone,here at least,disagreeing with you. And it's people like you who do a huge disservice to the mission by spreading your own concoctions based on the Mission material. Billy never said these things so why mesh your opinions with the material. Separate them. You apparently have an enormous ego about what you think you know,and purport yourself as some important mission representative,which I've never heard anyone mention you. Good luck with that. M.Helfert, Just a comment...hope you are well...it's been a while. There's only the truth...not the truth as we see it. Either something is true or not. | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 147 Registered: 01-2011 |
Dear Hugo, Do you or have your ever been in the military? Can you effectively define what is a pointman and what that position entails in a 2 man or 5 man killer team? Or for that matter, even a squad? or platoon? Definition states that he is "A soldier who is assigned to a position some distance ahead of a patrol as a lookout". But among his many other assigned duties is to draw fire away from the team. That is MH's job and anyone of the team would look to him and treat him with admiration and respect because he duties also entail finding trip wires and Land Mines and/or Booby traps. He is a key figure in the overall success or failure of the this mission. that we have set for ourselves. In my personal opinion MH deserves all that admiration and respect that he can get from us. And always please... please don't forget team that... "Only you can prevent Forest/Brush fires!" Mat(Bronzedesk) And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 836 Registered: 12-2009 |
Tom, Interested parties can leave their email under the "reincarnation, death, and storage banks" thread, and I will get it to you. Being a Word document means you can print it out, and get yourself a nice plastic report cover from an office supply store, and presto you have a nice, homemade, reincarnation study guide, straight from the mouth of Billy Meier. This is a nice word document, in chronological order from darn near every answer on reincarnation from the Q & A, from the very beginning, to the most recent session. I am willing to share with anyone who leaves an email. Salome Corey Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Braiden_miller Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 05-2015 |
Msmichelle tottaly missed what i was saying. i was saying give us equipment to save the innocents againsed this horrable future that lies ahead of them/us. it seem like everyone here is open to mass murder just because we have a 2nd evolveing well no sh!t we have the same excistence as we do now. but im saying dont let fear over come you to make you feel helpless and except death. im a bit diffrent than all you because im willing to die for what i beleave in than to sit here and let someone kill off everyone because we have this knowlage of life after death. well you wouldent know this knowledge if you hadent lived in this life from the get go. so it is very important to live to evolve. that moment in time when you have met someone before meeting yourself - my journey in the spirit is like my journey in life | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 837 Registered: 12-2009 |
Braiden Miller, i hear what you are saying, but keep in mind the harshest truth is better then the sweetest lie. First off, there are no Greys, Draconians, or shape shifting reptiles in any positions of power, or anywhere on Earth. These are just lies that trace back to covert governmental intelligence disinformation. Also the P's do not send impulses to governmental political powers, but to science and medicine developers to bring about peaceful developmental processes on Earth. This is very positive (+) and vital to our future! Earth-based religious and political Intelligence agencies unfortunately take it upon themselves to keep the Earth's population in hysteria about extraterrestrials via Hollywood and other media so they can covertly develop futuristic weapons to defend against the non-existent ET threat (see 441st contact) in secret and this is extremely negative (-) and is not the fault of ET's as the fault of this lies solely in the hands of Earth-based individuals in power who want to suppress the Meier case and develop weapons w/o public knowledge by manipulating the general public and the masses for no other reason then to use them in war (which can be used on their fellow Earth-humans). Next there is no other way to say it other then to just say it. Lots of people will die in the future if the prophecies fulfill themselves. Take a deep breath, and try to read my following words carefully. 2/3 of Earth humanity will die if WWIII happens, so were talking like 5 to 6 billion people will die in the course of 888 days, then many more will die in the ensuing 11 years of starvation, hardship, and misery, not to mention the entire northern hemisphere will be destroyed and other people will die from radiation sickness, radiation burns, and nuclear fallout/nuclear winters, etc. This war, and all the resulting deaths will be the fault of Earth-based religious and political leadership (Anti-LOGOS) as well as the fault of Earth humanity masses for not rising up, and using the correct, and Creational forced forcelessness (gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit) to take the power away from religious, political, and scientific communities and putting the power back in the hands of the people directly, before it is too late. Semjase warned of this way back in the 70's. Billy and FIGU have been warning about the negative (-) consequences of this war for decades, and the necessary correct response of a multi-national peacekeeping troop w/o any success bearing fruit. Et's are not going to save us, as this is an Earth-based problem that requires Earth-based solutions to fix, and we as an Earth humanity, will most likely have to suffer the negative consequences (-) before we learn from our mistakes to learn self-responsibility to solve our own problems the correct way, now and in future. This is the correct way for evolution, based on the logical law of cause and effect. No one here wants anyone to die, but the sad truth is this may happen because the prophecies and predictions have not been heeded. Now all of us people that die in the WWIII, will reincarnate here on Earth w/a new personality, but the negative (-) consequences is that we will reincarnate to conditions of a damn near destroyed Earth, and the conditions will most likely be terrible and negative (-), like MH says, "don't worry about dying, you'll live through it", and in the future, Earth humanity will rebuild from the nuclear ashes, and evolution will continue. Now there is more... natural disasters that are the negative (-) consequences of overpopulation and climate change will claim many a Earth human life in the future. Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, typhoons, wildfires, desertification, loss of food and water sources, loss of crop yields, compounding international conflicts due to climate change, mass starvation, hurricanes, acidification of the oceans, etc. Our addiction to oil, and fossil fuels, and our addiction to procreating as many children as we see fit, w/irrational and complete disregard for how this will affect our mother Earth, will unfortunately ensure that we suffer from these negative (-) consequences of our actions, based on the universal, logical, law of cause and effect. The Earth is in pain, and is beginning to retaliate as a result of cause and effect. Billy, FIGU, and the P's have been releasing prophecies and predictions since the 70's (and Billy did way back in the 50's) about overpopulation w/o any positive (+) results. The P's have said straight-up that Earth humanity will have to learn from our suffering first-hand, before we are will to change for the positive, and institute strict birth control based on the laws of rationality, before primevil conditions return to the Earth, which will most likely happen before anything is done about this terrible, compounding problem. You mentioned that you are willing to die for what you believe, but what have you done that requires living, such as limiting your child-bearing in your personal sphere, and your environment? FIGU has made many a petition to try and reach the powers-that-be, and I, in the past, have even signed an overpop petition that went straight to Obama's desk, to no avail. You have to change your mentality, and look at this rationally. Earth humans are used to begging for help from a non-existing Creator god, or angel, NO ONE is coming to save us, especially an ET. Earth humanity will have to suffer the negative consequences (-) of all of these things I have listed, if the correct, FIGU recommended actions are not instituted and implemented, and Earth humanity ourselves will have to most likely learn from our collective mistakes through future death, before this is done, because we are too slow to collectively change for the positive (+). Mistakes are the necessary steps towards evolution, and Earth humanity makes plenty of mistakes, because we as a whole, are selfish, egotisitical, and manipulated and manipulative, inhibited, and inhibitive. We constantly put in power, dangerous schizophrenic power-hungry mad-men who make dangerous decisions under the guise of false peace that could have dangerous consequences for us all, and once they are in power, they covertly misuse and mislead the public for their own personal gain, profit, and world-dominating aspirations. This will not change until the masses learn first-hand the dangerous road this will lead us all, in their personal sphere's, so we can institute safeguards against such things in the future. This is not an ET problem, but an Earth humanity problem. ET's have done more then you give them credit to help us along, Billy's mission, 2 direct landing possibilities, one in the 70's, that was stupidly rejected by the US government, and one in the year 2000, that was cancelled because of US government intrigues, and the overall non-readiness of the general public. Countless prophecies and predictions for decades that have not been heeded by the powers-that-be, which does nothing more then ensure our death march towards the dark abyss of destruction. These are growing pains of a Earth humanity on the cusp of evolution, will we collectively make the right choices and ensure our future survival? That remains to be seen... If it's any consolation, I'll quote my favorite passage from the TJ 2011 edition, as my parting gift to you, maybe you have the correct soil to ensure and tend to these seeds of knowledge, so they can grow into plants of wisdom and logic when you face the future, and I want you to know that you are not alone, we will all have to face these negative (-) consequences (effects) together: TJ 2011 edition 14:25/page 121 (*A rough unofficial translation, MAY CONTAIN ERRORS): "the human beings are still in their spirit (consciousness) and knowledge small and unknowledgeable, so many must first take much guilt and error, he/she must marry through comprehending and learning, and gather knowledge and wisdom, so he/she can recognize the truth." "Die Menschen sind in ihrem Geiste (Bewusstsein) und Wissen noch klein und unwissend, also mancher erst viel Schuld und Fehler auf sich nehmet, ehe er dadurch affasset (lernt) und Wissen und Weisheit sammelet, so er dann die Wahrheit erkennet." (note: this is not a literal marriage, but a marriage of the learning process of learning and comprehending from guilt and error, thus accumulating knowledge and wisdom, so the truth can be recognized) I think this verse sums up Earth humanity very well, on this precipice of life and death. Life and death are inseperable, and once you can accept that, and accept death as an inseperable fact of life then you can accept your inevitable death without any angst. If you see it that all the future needless deaths are part of the learning process from the law of cause and effect, so we can finally implement rational changes to our collective problems, and try to learn to live in harmony with the laws and recommendations of Creation. This learning process will probably last hundreds of years, as the negative (-) impulses from the Bafath will not be neutralized for 300 more years before they change into a positive (+), so it will be a slow process of development. Billy and the P's have tried to prevent casualties by disseminating the prophecies and predictions to the powers-that-be, and the masses in countless ways since the beginning, w/o much success! Salome Corey (*A) rough translation done by Corey of TJ 2011 edition 14:25 page 121 copyright FIGU/BEAM. note: FIGU dictionary used whenever possible! note: us, we, etc. in this post means Earth humanity as a whole, collectively, and individually. Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2015 |
Bronzedesk, I think you may have misunderstood what I said. If you reread it you will see that I am saying that MHorn is the about the only one here who may be in danger from the powers that be. I have a LOT of respect and thanks for MH sticking his neck out for the mission. Also everyone else connected to the mission too. | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 64 Registered: 02-2010 |
Great piece of information Corey As for as respect and admiration are concerned, when you "know" you have done the right thing... there is no need to "demand" anything....the "results" are the icing on the cake. We all will die, but how we die is a bigger question. We will not escape the present/future events, either we will experience a direct "hit"....or "witness" the devastation to others. MsMichelle | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 65 Registered: 02-2010 |
My point....the Cake is Good!!! (smile) MsMichelle | ||
Ekr Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 04-2014 |
 1. The only person I've recruited and that I told was a possiblility that I (may) be a reincarnated soldier or ever put in a opinion in regarding the mission was to my girlfriend and she took it with a grain of salt. 2. I hold no present neo-nazi beliefs or motives, if you include your own opinion in regards to light-heartedness and blown out of proportion history facts, I guess I'm second to Adolf Hitler. 3. Disservice the mission  nah, I've just had to look at your useless BS for the past 3 years and it's rubbed off on me. You are a nobody. 3. "EKR" is my initials and my first/last name isn't exactly short. Look out guys, I think I just might've struck the name police's nerve! Just a reincarnated WW2 German soldier that's trying to spread the mission & survive in a cruel and harsh world. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2015 |
Bronzedesk, I said that because on the previous page someone said it was not safe for them/people to use their real names here because of (intelligence) agencies. | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 148 Registered: 01-2011 |
I find that it's not a good idea to point fingers especially in these situations. It has an tendency to turn around and kick you in the butt no matter how true it may be, especially in these types of forums. It was not intended to be an ass chewing but a wake up call. Watch what you say.... but maintain a firm conviction and to stay focused on the mission ahead, in your heart, mind and spirit for the coming future which lies ahead for us all. Mat (Bronzedesk) And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 399 Registered: 03-2003 |
Corey is correct here with many things in regards to Plejarens, etc, also you might want to look into what Dr Steven Greer of CSETI has had to say on a number of points to which generally amounts to the same thing. |
