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    Blake_p Member Post Number: 267 Registered: 07-2012 |
Eddieamartin, Actually I understand it differently, I recall Billy saying that when you go back in time you are actually there in that time. It happens then,if not how were they able to visit the scientist,mytic or whatever that guy was when they visited him in the 1400's or whenever. Jitchi,the guy with Billy,gave him some modern stuff and it was confirmed in a book about this person because of the lights ,I think. Regardless,if they weren't there in that time, it would be impossible for whoever wrote about it to actually do it in that time period. Just being able to use a technical device to travel to any point in time is pretty mind boggling,I guess if the Plejaren don't completely understand it,not much hope for us for a long time. Separately; Since,supposedly,Figu goes off track sometime in the near future and one of Billy's future incarnations brings everything back the way it should be,I would assume that - that would be an important future incarnation to visit and he probably did. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 625 Registered: 08-2010 |
Blake_p I agree. What has to be understood is that there are various forms of time travel. In one form we are as a ghost. In another we can interact to a degree. I should have worded my response better. Thank you for adding some clarity. Salome, Eddie | ||
Vincent Member Post Number: 197 Registered: 06-2013 |
Hi Eddie, I'm glad to see you posting again. I liked reading your past posts.  | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 627 Registered: 08-2010 |
Thank you for that Vincent. I'm just so busy lately but I do enjoy reading all the contributions everyone makes. Salome, Eddie | ||
Falesh New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2014 |
Hello Billy, and Figu family. It is a very serious issue. From past one year I have been reading Billy’s Contact reports. And I found utter truth in it. There is a guy named Captain Bill, famous for his contacts with an Alien from Andromeda galaxy named “Mythi”. When I was reading about Mythi, in order to know about genuinity , I looked for his statements towards Billy Meier and Pleiadians. He told positively that billy had contacts with pleiadians. Mythi told that “it takes only few hours for pleiadians to come to Earth because it is only 440 light years away.” Also Mythi said about the possibilities of meteor coming towards earth during 2014. (Mythi is correct here) But there are many anomalies: 1st: Carlos asks, I would like to ask if time travel is possible for aliens or any other race that you know of and if yes how? MYTHI - Carlos, I do not know how this question had not done before. You did! This is a very common question everyone would like to be able to do this at least once in their lifetime. See, the past as the term says, it's happened. The only things left over from the past are the images that travel through space until dissipates and mental frequencies that may be bouncing in the aura of the planet, until they disappear too. Back to the past is a dream theory, it is not possible. When we say "time travel" means what happens in the folds of time and space that are generated through the portals of transport. When you are about 400 light years away and can be transferred here immediately, in a split second, you are traveling in time, in your present. The future and your present is a line of continuity, there is no travel time to the future because the future will be, not yet. There are no time travelers to the past and the future as you romance, yes there is, the journey at the present time with no time, regardless of the relationship between time and space involved. When you travel between systems of very different frequencies, lead to disparities as 10 minutes on my system, here representing two months or two years somewhere else, that kind a disparity in time just does not happen when you transfers instantly. But billy meier travelled in time with asket. There is a physical proof also (Jechieli with electric light & fence and also location of Talmud of Jmmanuel) 2nd: Then there was this question: On human named Billy Meier, who have had contacts with Pleiadeans these facts really happened? He talks about time travel, things that you said are not possible, and in no time he mentions Community Galactica. MYTHI - See, as I mention before on this contact, he actually had some contacts with "behavioral scientists" Pleiadeans, but at the time he failed to properly assimilate much information he received. When subjected to holographic visions of past facts, he did not understand that it was holographic environments to be a technology far beyond his time. Actually, he never left the planet, all the experience he had were simulations, right here in order to study the reactions by Pleiadeans. Regarding the Community Galactica Pleiadeans are not talking much about chains of command, as it were totally extra official contacts they have not entered into any organizational detail with that person specifically. The stories and the imagination of that person completed the information the way he imagined or wanted others to imagine. Now even if I believe that what he saw was just a hologram, Then how did he feel Creation when he went through hyperspace. 3rd: Our friend Davison asks, what are the crystal skulls found in several places on the planet? MYTHI - Davison, these skulls were made thousands of years ago by an ancient race from the Pleiades, which also made the star map with the stone spheres on your Central America. They made some of these skulls, but they are all exactly alike. They are transponders, molecularly programmed into your crystal quartz for communication of mental frequencies. They were used to remotely send knowledge to the leaders of certain cultures in regional development planned for them here on the planet. It seems that only one of the originals has been found in your Central America. Others remain missing and stored in tombs and altars made of rock, where its resonance frequency cannot be detected. They existed in the ruins of the "Saxas" in Turkey, Asian temples, and a few more in South America. But Ptaah (Pleiadian in cotact with Billy) denied relationship between crystal skulls and ETs. More can be found here about its origin: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_56 It is been only 3 days I looked at Mythi’s case and these are the anomalies now, maybe I will find more if I spend more time on it. Captain Bill’s (guy in contact with Mythi) contact reports are very interesting to read, but there are faults at least in regard of time travel and crystal skull. I believe Captain Bill is faking it. Can you please give me your answers? Thank you. Peace in Cosmos | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1407 Registered: 07-2005 |
All of a sudden something is bothering me about time travel. I don't normally preoccupy myself with it but certain thoughts about it suddenly arose within me. When reading through the prophecies and predictions by the old prophets what elicits within me is, whether it was Henoch, Elia, Isaia, Jeremia, Jmmanuel, Mohammad etc, they seem to be just too accurate for one not to exclude the possibility that they either time travelled to the future themselves or were at least party to information gleaned by someone who actually did time travel to the future. This would then explain some of the UFO sightings that we see nowadays where excluding the current ET UFOs, terrestrial UFOs and time travellers from the future what we are seeing is UFOs with our old prophets in them witnessing the current events as they unfold. Just as Billy stated that the past cannot be changed one iota this would also mean that some of the future events carried into the past also follow this ironclad rule meaning that if Jmmanuel happened to have time travelled to a specific date of Sunday the 8th of March 2015 visiting the city of Jerusalem over the temple mount this event which is still the future has already become the ironclad 'past' which cannot be changed one iota and would have to happen 100% without any deviation. The reality of this feature of time travel and the definition of 'future time traveller' must also be extended to include someone who performs a time travel into the future from the vantage point of our past. This would then explain the inexplicable explanation given about crop circles by Billy and the Plejaren that all crop circles are manmade meaning terrestrial manmade. Then who is to say that it has to be made by someone from the future who travelled into our present or in this case their past to have created these field forms INSTEAD of someone from the distant past who travelled to their future, in this case our present, to have created these crop formations. I assume that a person who was born to an ET person but who resides on earth would be deemed an earthling by a loose definition of the word just as nobody here and from FIGU including Billy would deem Jmmanuel as an ET person even though he had an ET father. So from the extension of this logic a person born to ET parents from Atlantis or Mu who had access to a time travelling device travelling to the 20th and 21st century who happened to have made these stunning crop circles by definition was an earthling. This example may explain why Billy and the Plejaren are adament that the crop circles are made by earth human beings. | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 168 Registered: 03-2008 |
There are many thoughts about time travel that I still don't understand. And no matter how I think about sometimes I still process that time is only one dimension. Just like from the memories from our early school years. There, in front of us, on the front wall, hangs a linear visualization how we are told how time is considered to be correct. From apes and Dinosaurs to Romans and Biblical Times and on to modern days of the Industrial Revolution. Wherever you are at any given time is the present. When you travel into the past that becomes your present. Davidmg | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1411 Registered: 07-2005 |
Good point David The topic on timetravel is a head scratcher for me too and I don't want to end up in a stretcher thinking too much about it. Regarding crop circles..... | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 292 Registered: 12-2011 |
Newinitiation If crop circles are man made then how come they are radio active.Years ago I had a friend that took reading of one in Adelaide SA Australia. With the pattern made he was convinced that it was not man made.How do we know that other civilizations are not trying to reach out. joe | ||
Davidmg Member Post Number: 169 Registered: 03-2008 |
Votan; Few are real. Crop Circles take up too much valuable time to find out if they are real or not. The difference between the Meier material and crop circles is eventually with the Meier material, at some point it will make sense to those who can see logic and reason with openness . As for crop circles, well if you don't have solid evidence on how they are made as well as seeing it done in front of your eyes. Then all you have is just is speculation. And speculation can consume vast mental resources of which you could better serve your time elsewhere. Davidmg | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1414 Registered: 07-2005 |
Joe the reason why I am trying to rationalise Billy and the Plejaren's statements about crop circles with alternative theory is that their current explanation just doesn't make sense to me. I was hoping that they'd just come out and say "yes some are definitively extraterrestrial human made". I just can't for the life of me still accept their explanation as the inexplicably weird anomalies with 5% of them to my logic could not have been produced by the presently living earthlings even with exotic technology we can only dream about. I am just hanging out for them to come out in the future and state that they've made a mistake. Either that or state that it's made by the Agharthian who live underground in Shampulla in Tibet and Gobi desert or what used to be Mu A and B whose cities are connected by an underground tunnel. If this explanation was given then I can really understand why the Plejaren said earthling made as these remnants of past ET civilisation would be deemed earthlings by now as they are truly earth residents. Other than that what other explanation could there be besides time travellers from the past and the future. Or am I selling us earth worms short by excluding them from the equation. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 293 Registered: 12-2011 |
Newinitation If it is made by earthlings than they must be good. joe | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 294 Registered: 12-2011 |
Davidmg If you do not have a definite answer then what else do you have except speculation. They do not tell us how it is produced, do they. joe | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1415 Registered: 07-2005 |
Well theres a word going around that from the highly secret special access programs they have perfected a beaming technology that imprint these field forms electromagnetically in whatever design they wish to make. If ETs, Agharthians or future time travellers aren't involved which I would be very surprised about then I speculate that a rogue branch of the CIA has these beaming devices installed in their ARVs to make these crop circles as they please. | ||
Earthling Member Post Number: 910 Registered: 05-2008 |
Speaking of time travel; some interesting bits of tid from a recently released excerpt of Contact 602 http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_sonder_bulletin_87.pdf Billy - Worauf ich nun aber einmal offiziell zu sprechen kommen möchte, das bezieht sich auf die vier Gruppierungen, die mit ihren Flugobjekten auf der Erde herumfunktionieren. Du hast ja letzthin bei einem unserer privaten Gespräche gesagt, das ich einiges darüber weitersagen dürfe, wenn ich danach gefragt werde. Ptaah - Das ist richtig, doch eben nur in dem Rahmen, dass keine Einzelheiten genannt werden, die ich dir erklärt habe. Billy - Das meine ich ja auch nicht, denn es geht nur darum, dass ihr wisst, dass zumindest zwei Gruppierungen definitiv von ausserhalb unserer Gegenwart kommen, wobei die eine erdzukünftig und die andere parallelraumbedingt ist. Mehr will ich ja auch nicht darüber sagen, sondern eben gerade nur das, und zwar auch nur darum, weil ich immer wieder danach gefragt werde, ob ihr denn diesbezüglich wirklich nicht mehr Informationen habt. Ptaah - Natürlich haben wir tiefgreifendere Informationen, doch erlauben es unsere Direktiven nicht, dass wir diese den Erdenmenschen kundgeben. Wenn du jedoch den Fragenden in der Weise eine Antwort gibst, dass sich die eine Gruppierung auf Erdzukünftige bezieht und eine andere aus einem Parallelraum entstammt, dann ist dir diese Information erlaubt und verrät keine wichtige Einzelheiten. rough translation - Billy - However, I would now once like to speak officially upon that which refers to the four groups with their flying objects that function around the Earth. Recently, you had said to me, in one of our private conversations, that I may say something more about it, if I am asked. Ptaah - That's right, yet only in the frame that no details are mentioned, which I have explained to you. Billy - I also think not, because the point is, as you know, that at least two groups definitively come from outside our present time, and one is earth-future-related and the other parallel-space-related. I will say no more about it, rather precisely only just that, and indeed also only because I am often asked about it, whether regarding this you really do not have more information. Ptaah - Of course we have more in-depth information, but our directives do not allow that we make this known to the humans of earth. However, if you give an answer to the questioner in the form, that one group relates to earth's future and another one comes from a parallel space, then this information is allowed and you betray no important details. http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/ Bruce | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 344 Registered: 11-2008 |
Thank you Bruce. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1417 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks Bruce for the translation Do you know on what date this contact 602 was made available wherever you obtained it from? I mean I am getting a little flustered or even a tinge bit annoyed by this runaround from Billy and the Plejaren. Obviously we must solve the puzzle ourselves and I do get it, I mean really do fair dinkum. The source of the persistently lingering mystery still unsolved is because of our own limitation and the fact that we aren't smart enough yet. But look! Can you all see that what was suppose to be another incremental clue appears like another silly contradiction once again. Notice the contradiction? Can you see it? Can you just sniff it? That's right. On the one hand Billy and the Plejaren stated that the 4 groups of foreigners to earth are 'EXTRATERRESTRIAL' human beings and that 3 of this group was basically the same people with the same origin which basically means that they are essential one peoples yet now he has added that two out four of this 'GROUP' "definitively come from outside our present time, and one is earth-future-related and the other parallel-space-related". What!?!? Once again What!?!? Can you do the math here. I thought 4-2=2 and 1+1+1=3 and 4-3=1 yet now it looks like 4-2=2-3 is not -1 but 3. What's going on here? How could 1 out of the 3 group be either future earth related, be extraterrestrial at the same time or be other parallel space related and not the other 2? Weren't they suppose to be the 'SAME' people who are just grouped into threes being assigned with separate territorial responsibilities on earth yet how could one be either earth future related or other parallel space related but not the other 2 groups? Obviously there is going to be more to their conversation of which they aren't allowed to reveal yet unless we solve it ourselves but something is not right about this conversation. Translation error maybe? Or could Billy essentially be saying that since the 4 ET groups are basically 2 by the merit of the fact that the 3 groups are essentially one and the same, was he implying it from this context and perspective? If going by this contact conversation alone then since these groups are deemed ET and not earthlings we may as well eliminate them out of the equation in regards to the creation of crop circle or more precisely 'field forms' UNLESS one of this group from the future happens to be the lowly developed (by Plejaren standards) ETs mentioned in CR 251 who we earthlings will derive help from in the future who so happens to have a collaborative venture with us of that time to time travel together back into this present day to make these elaborate crop formations hence, technically, earth human made. This is just my wild conjecture but I couldn't help but notice the contradiction from this translation by Bruce. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 777 Registered: 12-2009 |
Thanks Bruce! Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Markcampbell Member Post Number: 916 Registered: 10-2008 |
Further down in the bulletin there is another English translation of the Death Rune . The Woodstock era peace sign . | ||
Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 525 Registered: 09-2011 |
Time travel for the purposes of monitoring would be useful in many ways, most especially in reminding us of who we are. I spose we aren't supposed to develop the technology before our time, but once we do, assuming we have an altruistic society, the technology could be used to figure out the absolute real truth of our history, regardless of what people want it to be. Because of that, any self-respecting planet-dominating group of people would probably devote much of their energies to developing this technology, even if the fruits of our endeavors only come about a thousand years from now. In identity politics, knowledge is power. I attended an author's lecture on Atlantis recently. He was asked by the moderator a key question: Since Atlantis was plumb destroyed, since no history of Atlantis remained on Earth, since there are no Atlanteans left in the world, why should anyone care what happened to them? Why should anyone care about peoples and cultures that have been utterly wiped out of existence, and even history? Of course, the premise of the question dismisses the impact of previous incarnations upon the impetus of mankind. And otherwise, it was obvious (to me) that the moderator wanted to discourage through ridicule any pursuit of the Atlantean question: identity politics... Someday we may be asked to justify our interest in the history of this time, the time we are now living in, in just the same manner. Since there will be no people of this society or that left in the world, why should anyone care about them, what happened, and why? Identity politics will not go away in the future just because we are all being pushed and mixed together. In fact, I suspect the felt need for a better defined identity grows stronger over time, not weaker, driving the development for a single absolute-truth-telling, time-traveling, data-recording drone, something which presents neither impact nor bias. Who knows how far back this time traveling drone has been recording the absolute events of history. Who knows from how far forward the drone originates. For certain, no secrets are absolute: Earthly humans are the best judge of Earthly humanity. Life | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 778 Registered: 12-2009 |
Matt Lee, Contact 602 original German and Bruce's translation does not contain any information that 3 of the groups are one peoples. Did you get that from some other translation? Mentalblock: Bewusstsein, Gedanken, Gefühle, Psyche Bewusstseinblock: Charakter, Persönlichkeit, Unterbewusstsein, Ego, Gedächtnis "Lehrschrift" page 124 Ratio: Verstand, Vernunft, Klugheit, Moral "The Psyche" page 216 | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1421 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yes Corey and this is what Ptaah had to say about them. Ptaah Yes. With these three groups is however to understand here, that it concerns a matter about them of three different factions, who however all together build a unity, thus belonging together and in accordance with our observations of only one origin, however who have different areas of responsibility on the Earth. Of three groups is only generally to speak, because our realizations of these earth aliens is that they are clearly organized for certain tasks in three different terrestrial areas, in which they become evident and are variously working. So one group moves entirely in the west continental area of Antarctica over Tierra del Fuego and all Americas with various islands up to Alaska and to the Arctic, then another group moves in entirely Europe with Africa and all islands, with Greenland, Eurasia, Arabia, Madagascar and the Arctic as well as various islands, and finally the third group moves entirely in Asia and Oceana with all islands, as also in Australia, Tasmania, New Zealand and in a part of Anarctica. Contact Report 532. In contact 54 there were 7 ET races that were located on earth and subsequent to this CR some from this 7 races have joined the Federation but not all. According to my memory 5 have joined the Fed thus leaving 2 races behind yet also subsequent to this 3 ET races were identified as being on earth which again changed to 4. If you do the math 2 becomes 3 and then 4. So what are we to make of all this confusing number. 2+3+4=9 or Amalgamate the number 2 into 3 and add an extra 1 to get 4 or. Just leave the final number of ET civilisation visiting earth to 2 seeing as the 3 ET foreigners to earth are technically 1 alien race thus the figure 4 given in the latest information about them should just be 2 ET races. All this is not earth shatteringly important although since Billy and the Plejaren definitely left us another puzzle to puzzle over regarding this matter I'd figured I'd just puzzle away thinking that I might get somewhere with it. Regarding the crop formation, field forms, crop circles or patterned crop deformation (my pun) or whatever else they are called this matter is still important enough to ponder besides the Spiritual Teachings as solving this would open a pandora's box to solving so many other mysteries that are imprinted in them. The highly complex euclidean mathematics interwoven with special message for the future generations or in this case our generation were meant to be code cracked for the revelation it contains I am assuming. I believe it's no different to what is interwoven within the great pyramids of the world beyond the astronomical and mathematical codes. So I wouldn't be surprised if Billy and the Plejaren makes a link between these ET foreigners to earth and crop circles in the future installments of CR. At present to my paradigm there is just no way that the mysterious anomalies of the 5% of the crop circles are made by us present day earth human beings with solely earth made technologies with one exception and one exception only and that is if the Brazilian Neo Nazi Thule society members who had gotten a hold of the ET ufo stranded in Brazil somehow retrieved other technical equipment and apparatuses aboard it. Then this would make a bit more sense as to why Billy and the Plejaren persistently and consistently call the crop circles made by 'EARTH' as in 'terrestrial' human being over so many years without any deviation. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1422 Registered: 07-2005 |
Michael you kinda asked. Since there will be no people of this society or that left in the world, why should anyone care about them, what happened, and why? Well if we don't know where we have been and how we got here for how could we find it important enough to know as to where we are headed. How shall we find out who we were and who we are and then who we will become. The hedonistic do as thy wilt shall be the whole of the law driven mess of a world we live in where the usual crowd is hell bent on living just for the now as if nothing not even their heritage whence they came from nor the future they are shaping to end up towards is sacred enough to know allows them to do so many things that are anti-life and anti-sensible. Billy advises us to live the now with the past and the future in mind and to carefully shape it. Gee so I wonder why. I gather that from the experiences that the spiritual teachings provides it really is very important what you think, say, do, feel and action but the other side of the coin is that it is just as important what you don't think, say, do, feel and action. So all that makes history whether individually and collectively which impacts the future destinies of your next life but also societally and then globally and then universally I think. So it matters to know where we have been in the past and to really know that history always repeats itself whether for the better or for the worse depending upon what we have and haven't learnt from them. I think this is kinda what you were trying to convey in your above post there Michael if I haven't got it wrong I guess. Matt lee |
