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Hunter
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Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WWIII - Syria, Russia & Iran - The New Equation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ZLYUvAZvs

In case anyone needs more evidence that John McCain is bat shit crazy...
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Hunter even Putin quipped about Macain saying he is no friend of his and that maybe he was suffering from mental disorder after him being tortured as a POW in Vietnam where Macain betrayed his fellow countrymen leading to their deaths.
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was CIA mind control ever mentioned by Billy or the P's?

Another Mass Shooting Just in Time to Flip the Script

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNV2HBXF8S0
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been researching PC. Can anyone point me to Billy taking about Political Correctness or Cultural Marxism. It really seems to be a big part of the Ant-logos. Herbert Marcuse of the Frankfurt School of Critical Theory considered Father of the New Left worked for the OSS/CIA.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The US Dollar and how is works; John Perkins, an economic hit-man exposes the truth.

"In 1971 the United States had a lot of debt, a lot of this was the result of the Vietnam Nam war and we were on the gold standard. So, some of the other countries decided to call in their debts in gold, because they didn't trust the dollar. President Nixon refused to pay in gold, he in fact took us off the gold standard because he knew we couldn't pay in gold, we didn't have the value.

So very quickly after that the U.S. Government went on the "oil standard", and John Perkins was a very large part of that which was struck with Saudi Arabia, insisting that OPEC only sell in dollars. And suddenly the dollar moves from the gold standard to the oil standard which, in many respects, is a much more important standard, oil is intrinsically more valuable than gold, in this day and age.

So suddenly the world can only buy oil for dollars, and the dollar is a very important currently.

Today the United States is again a bankrupt country. We have huge amounts of debt, more debt than any country has ever had in the history of the world before. And if some other country were to call that debt in currency other than the dollar the U.S. would be in very serious trouble.

Right now there only calling in the dollars because oil is the big commodity, and you can only buy oil in dollars. But Saddam Hussein threatened to sell oil for something other than dollars just before he was taken down.

John Perkins said; sometimes Economic Hit men (like me) fail to corrupt leaders of other countries, as I failed with Omar Torrijos in Panama and Jaime Roldos in Ecuador. It doesn't often happen, but when it does, then the Jackals are sent in, and these are people that overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders. So when I failed with Jaime Roldos in Ecuador and Omar Torrijos in Panama, the Jackals went in and assassinated them.

On a few occasions when neither the economic hit men nor the jackals are successful, then and only then do we send in the military. And this is exactly what happened in Iraq. The economic hit-men could not corrupt Saddam Hussein, could not bring him around, the jackals couldn't take him out and so the military was sent in.

The first time we sent the military in was in 1991, we destroyed his military and figured that he had been sufficiently chastised, that now he would come around. So during the 90's the economic hit-men went back in to try and bring Saddam Hussein around. But he wouldn't give in, if he had, he’d still be running the country, and we would be selling him jets and tanks and everything else he wanted. But he didn't give in.

The jackals couldn't assassinate him. His security forces were very good, and he had a lot of lookalike doubles; his own security didn't know whether they were guarding him or the double.

So neither the economic hit-men or the jackals succeeded the second time with Saddam Hussein, at that point we sent in the military again, and this time we took him out and the rest is history."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-a6jzU0YgQ

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cora2zzVl3o
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm, When it comes to the interactions of governments we have to do some self research. The terms used are a moving targets as will as the faces. http://wayback.archive.org/web/20141228112313/http://www.ratical.org/ratville/AoS/Propaganda.pdf
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Norm
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Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill what's your point? You got to give me a little more than that.

I just read the other day the fastest growing religion in Ireland is Islam. It's getting pretty obvious that there is a planned migration going on involving the Islamic world and the Western world. It's not just a coincidence that Islam is is being imported into the Western world. The whole Western world and civilization is at risk.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth,

Thank you for your mail.
It supplements the many articles re. “Proposed Iranian Oil bourse” (e.g. http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1137510262.php)

I do not deny the truths mentioned in John Perkin’s “Confessions of an economic Hit Man”.
It is a sad reality that our world leaders really do not do what they declare in their countries’ / companies’ etc. “constitutions”.

But for the sake of world peace I would like to put it into a wider, more global / universal perspective.

The directive (Golden Rule) to “treat others as one would like to treat oneself” was already known in many civilisations for a very long time:

-That Ma’at (truth, balance and order) will prevent chaos was already well known in ancient Egypt (Middle Kingdom from 2040 BCE on) where the story of “The Eloquent Peasant” was well known.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eloquent_Peasant

-In an ancient Indian epic, the Mahabharata, (ca 800-700 BC) we find the advise of a wise minister to his king that “.. by self-control and by making dharma (right conduct) your main focus, treat others as you treat yourself."

The Buddha mentions this principle many times – e.g. “Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.” — Udanavarga 5:18

-The same moral tenet was well known in China through Confucius’ ("Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself.") and Lao-tse’s ("Regard your neighbor's gain as your own gain, and your neighbor's loss as your own loss.") teachings.

-It was proclaimed in ancient Greece by Thales (624 BCE – c. 546 BCE) “Avoid doing what you would blame others for doing.”

-In the Pahlavi Texts of ancient Persia (300 BCE) we find: "That nature alone is good which refrains from doing to another whatsoever is not good for itself.”

-Even many Christian and Muslim teachings mention it (e.g.Matthew 7:12 / Luke 6:31: “Do to others what you want them to do to you.”

-So did the "Declaration Toward a Global Ethic" from the Parliament of the World’s Religions (1993), signed by 143 the leaders from all of the world's major faiths ("We must treat others as we wish others to treat us") as a common principle for many religions.

So evidently Earth humans know the “Golden Rule”, by which to live, for a long time.

Why then do we not follow this principle ?
What thought drives man to deviate from the well documented truth?

An ancient Greek proverb said “What is permitted to Zeus is not permitted to the ox...”:

It may be interesting to know that this original Greek proverb described that in the (pre-feminist) ancient Greek society the husband was regarded higher than the wife:
So Zeus could have many a lover but not so his wife Hera (Juno in Rome).
(“Bovi” refers in Greek to “cow-eyed” = Hera was said to have had beautiful large eyes)

The Romans took this proverb one step further:
Terence, a Roman playwright coined the phrase Aliis si licet, tibi non licet.(“If others are allowed to it that does not mean you are.”

At a later time – probably in the Middle Ages – the ancient Greek proverb (see above) was re-translated into Latin (“Quod licet Jovi, no licet bovi”) in reference to the myth wherein Jupiter took the form of a bull (ox) to seduce Europa.

Many leaders then used the same principle to justify their god = “Roman Cesar” like authority.

A double standard that was and is unjust – denying vilely human dignity :

Some samples:

-The religions’ directive of “baptizing infants” into “religious subordination” before they are able to decide themselves.

-The Vikings’ ravaging most European river towns - killing the men, enslaving the women and children:
The many “Slavic” nations today, their name,it is a vivid reminder of the magnitude of those wicked deeds.

-The English (from Elizabeth I on) using slaves (bought for beads) for their work in the colonies.
(E.g. Working on plantations in the US - making opium balls in Bangladesh that were sold in exchange for valuable merchandise drugging ¼ of the Chinese etc.).

-The Incas / Aztecs killing (sometimes 25,ooo humans a day) “as sacrifice for their god”.

-The Spanish Inquisition and their killing spree in South America.

-The pride of Louis XIV’s “L’état c’est moi” leading to the bloody French Revolution.

-The mass murder that should foster Hitler’s supreme Arian master race.

-And last not least - the deeds of those that hated the Roman, Vikings, English, Aztecs, Spanish, Hitler etc. - did they not all become what they hated??

Many historians would accept that the origin of this authoritarian “feeling superior to others” attitude has a religious connotation of one kind or another:
The fear of a supreme God allowed the long parade of “god sent” monarchs to be a “Holy (Roman, English, Spanish, Aztec, Arian etc.) Emperor” and gave them a fertile ground to exercise absolute powers over their subjects.

Humanity may have changed politically from monarchies to so-called “democracies” but the ancient religious traditions and dogmas did not change with it.
Out of fear to upset an imagined god most of mankind still endures the same religious mental inhibitions as in the Middle Ages.

No wonder then that the "successors" to the monarchs - our modern day religious / political / commercial leaders, our sports/media idols etc. control the minds of many people:
They live the freedom that so many want.

Yes, a great majority of people is aware of truths that violate human dignity – like e.g. “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”.
But they lack the mental independence to unite and shake off the religious shackles that were placed on them.
In a nutshell: Constitutionally – “pro forma” - we declare that humanity is free and self-responsible but religiously we still deny it:
It is this mental contradiction that creates revolutionary scenarios (ISIS, al Qaida etc.)worldwide. Scenarios that force humanity to unite strongly in order to break religious bondages.

This - IMO - is behind the mostly religiously motivated warfare we witness today.
Gruesome as it may be - it should stimulate a greater unity among opposing nations.
Only together humanity will be able to reject false ancient religious indoctrinations.

I mentioned this background to put a wider and more global perspective on John Perkin’s “Confessions of an economic Hit Man”:

-Yes, superiority kills - great bloodshed is caused by looking down on others.
-Yes, it is wrong to condone a double standard ( doing to others what should not be done to ourselves).

But it is not confined to the US or any other nation on our planet.
The root is deeper.
It has a universal dimension:
The gods and overlords mentioned in CR 251.
They, too, did to others what they did not want to be done to themselves.

We should not excuse human atrocities.
But even Billy’s admitted that it would take too long to eradicate our gene-manipulated dilemma by slowly growing out of it..

It is very evident why the Ps wanted us to give up religious belief systems.
Because the double standard between god and man, ruler and ruled, this (godlike) “looking down on others …” - it was and is the source of all hate, quarrels and wars – in families, on our planet and universally.

As man will always be a miniature of his highest ideal he should awaken that any religious subordination is wrong.
It does not conform with the universal balance and oneness, the wisdom underlying all creation.

This brings me to the reason for my writing:

In our world we may find many a truth revolting and unfair.
But we should not hate.
Not the US.
Not the many other races, rulers and religions that committed atrocities.
Not even the “gods” and overlords.
Lest we become what we hate.

Peace in our world comes from an observing awareness.

Recognizing the direction of the continuous Thesis-Antithesis > Synthesis scenarios we witness.
Ultimately they are, we are, all are directed towards universal oneness.

This is the thought of universal peace and wisdom.

Salome,

Bill

TJ 34:56
“Also sie gespalten eins sind und eine Einheit, sind sie ungespaltet auch eins und eine Einheit, denn so ist das Gesetz der Schöpfung.”
“As they are one and a oneness (when) split, they, too, are one (when they are) not split, as thus is the Law of Creation.”
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re. Political Solution For Syria -

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/24/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-idUSKCN0SI08820151024

The remark by the Russian Foreign Minister, Mr Lawrow, “…. that Russia's air force, which has been bombing Islamist militants in Syria since Sept. 30, would be ready to help Western-backed Free Syrian Army rebels, if it knew where they were…”
“…External players can not decide anything for the Syrians. We must force them to come up with a plan for their country where the interests of every religious, ethnic and political group will be well protected,"

These comments would indicate a willingness to first unite to fight a common enemy (ISIS, al Qaida) and then to allow for a free, democratic and political solution internally.
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Votan
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill

A good article but a little too long.
joe
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm, All sides are wanting control in my area there is now truthful information to be found. Everything is done behind closed doors no cameras or mikes allowed. If you read the book I referenced you would see how all sides work the average human-being with the accuracy of any bomb. If they can not get the control they want then they will use anything to get including civil up-rise, belief systems, hunger and even war. They want the the EU and they already have a fix to offer for the problems they think they have control completely., BEAMS words are falling on deaf ears. Besides studying the spiritual we can still learn and show others how the elite and the religions work and it will be along hard trip for all of us.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Billwilson12
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Posted on Monday, October 26, 2015 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Votan, Sorry that was a long read, I went trough a lot more long haired books to find just one that covered the most in the simplest terms. Even with the clarity can find in ones own home with BEAM's writings, one needs to understand how others are going to try to take our free will away and inject confusion from every angle. And sadly why getting others to understand that we have to change even with proof in hand is going take a lot work and time. Remember that some where in this time frame the hidden secrets would start to leak out. The understanding of some of the penal gland powers have been long known and hidden, but massive temples have been built by all the religions to honor its power.
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Mait
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Putin says quite clearly why Russia has made such actions recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF-6TsqPoQs
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-jets-buzz-uss-ronald-reagan/ar-BBmzwIi?ocid=spartandhp

Russian bomber warplanes came within one nautical mile of the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan earlier this week, prompting the nuclear-powered vessel to scramble fighter jets, according to spokesperson from the U.S. Navy’s 7th Fleet, who spoke with Stars and Stripes Thursday. The giant Tupolev bomber aircraft, also known as the Bear, flew as low as 500 feet as it approached the Reagan, which had been conducting scheduled maneuvers with the South Korean Navy in the Korean Peninsula.
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Justsayno
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2015 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 01:27 pm by Jrosales80
"News just in, guys! It looks like our extremest right-wing Conservative Party won. Stephen Harper, who wants to increase military spending and help Bush achieve his objectives, will be sworn in as Prime Minister of Canada very soon. Is there any mention in the contact notes if this guy along with Bush will be responsable for WW3? I really hope not..."
Guess you were wrong Jrosales80. New liberal PM Justin Trudeau will ensure that we are defeated from within. 25,000 Syrian economic refugees imported to Canada by the end of this year. Hopefully they are put into neighbourhoods of the people who helped elect him...close to the CBC and CTV headquarters.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Kenneth
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In 2012, NASA said the sun unleashed two massive clouds of plasma that barely missed a catastrophic encounter with Earth. “If it had hit, we would still be picking up the pieces.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/07/23/how-a-solar-storm-nearly-destroyed-life-as-we-know-it-two-years-ago/

The most severe documented solar storm to impact Earth, known as the Carrington Event, occurred in September 1859, well before today’s power grid and network of satellites existed.

During the Carrington event, the northern lights were seen as far south as Cuba and Hawaii, according to historical accounts. The solar eruption “caused global telegraph lines to spark, setting fire to some telegraph offices,” NASA noted.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/weather/the-devastating-potential-of-an-extreme-solar-storm-and-what-the-white-house-is-doing-about-it/ar-BBmDt5q?ocid=spartandhp

The point being; if a solar plasma storm hit Earth; the West and Europe would not be able to use their technology against ISIS; who only uses a small amount of technology compared to the Europe and the West. No aircraft; computers; satellites; cell phones and related electronics equipment and no power grid, etc. It appears that this would be pretty much hand to hand combat with ISIS.
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Kenneth
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Some of you may be watching the news regarding Russia and the U.S. It's getting crazy.

Russia has warned the U.S. of the risk of a "proxy war" in the Middle East after the US said it would send special forces to Syria.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-warns-of-proxy-war-in-syria/ar-BBmEcDB?ocid=spartandhp
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Justsayno
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Good news Kenneth it looks like John Kerry is sending in special forces to Syria to fight ISIS instead of getting involved in their civil war. Meanwhile our new PM Justin Trudeau has decided to withdraw from the fight against ISIS and is going to use the military to babysit the 25,000 Syrian economic refugees.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Norm
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Justsayno, Exactly. Whats worse WW3 or living under Islamic Sharia Law. I'm fighting the current threat Islamic Invasion. I gave the Left a chance with Obama but I didn't think he would turn out to open the borders & be a race divider & supporter of Al Sharpton. Plus a supporter of the TTP(Trans-Pacific Partnership)which Bush supported. I could go on & on.
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Hugo
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Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm, it looks like the good morals Obama gave that up and became a puppet.
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Justsayno
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Hey Norm, since reading that Obama thanked bignew I now understand where he was getting all his bad information from.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2015 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm,
It would appear that the Dem. & the Rep. party are illusions to keep the good people occupied when their not watching their soap operas or their Reality TV programs.

When you break it all down, both U.S. parties do pretty much the same thing behind the scenes. And then their is voter fraud. I mail in my vote; back in the day I would get some kind of acknowledgment that my vote was received; haven't seen that happen in years; so I don't really know if my vote is even counted?

[*Quetzal explains how Bush senior and friends plotted to get Bush junior elected in order to get their grubby oil greedy hands into Iraq. There is some comment about the greatest ever vote fraud, which allowed this.] This happens on both sides.

http://www.theyfly.com/news2005/aug05/aug05.htm
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Norm
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Kerry is sending troops to look tougher. Now watch an accidental attack on US Troopers from Russia will cause WW4. The USA needs to come home now that it was a half ass campaign against ISIS. Making money for the Defense Industry dropping ineffective missiles.

Now that you have a Leftist PM Justin Trudeau in power. Get ready for your country to be flooded with refugees & ISIS from Syria.

The Left is so nuts they think all these refugees/immigrants are going to vote Left forever & keep them in power. But In a few years we will see Islamic parties & other ethnic parties. Good bye Western Civilization!

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