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Kenneth
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Post Number: 263
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 09:12 am: | 
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Bill,
The comparisons and information between ancient history, ancient myth, the bible, Billy's contact reports and the Plejaren information is well done and very interesting. That paints a pretty good picture.
To be clear to all; when I complemented you and Matt, I was not ignoring others on this forum. Of course we are a team.
Thanks for your outstanding input.
Sincerely
Kenneth
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona. |
Votan
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Post Number: 487
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 02:44 pm: |
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Stardustwilly
What presentation are you talking about.
Can you please attach the you tube please.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 304
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 07:55 pm: |
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Re. posting 302 -
I think the following conclusion may be clearer:
So in conclusion -
Greek myths may contain a glimmer of truth.
They were very popular.
They showed that “what is right for a god, is not right for humans”.
Those writing the Bible may have employed a similar strategy.
They “modified” the truth to please their god.
They wanted to show that it is futile for humans to seek wisdom.
That doing so would make man disobey their loving god.
That a “good” human should feel “guilty” and remorseful and redeem himself by “unquestioned submission to god”.
Like a reflection of Arus’ sinister mind, a large pitch black cloud, a layer of volcanic dust, encircled Earth for 2000 years after Atlantis’ destruction.
Like a reflection of Arus’ sinister mind, a background of human sin and guilt overshadows the Genesis Chapter and most religions in our world.
My “writings” – they try to explain - why our world of immorality and falsehood is an effect double standards … |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2016 - 10:12 pm: |
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Stardustwilly,
You have a valid point; nonetheless, there are relatives of mine that are university professors and friends as well. Granted, many are extremely intelligent, my brother-in-law is one of them. Because they are taught in Ivy League institutions, it’s a challenge for a layperson to talk to them on a one to one basis; many are hung up on their degrees and education.
I’m not putting them down; this comes from personal experience. It appears that when these highly educated professionals mature and acquire true wisdom, they begin to listen to the average person and are a little more receptive.
Examples:
Try telling a professor of astronomy or astrophysics the real truth about Earth’s moon and that this is not the first moon that Earth had; or the truth about God’s Eye, respectively the Ring Nebula M57 in the Lyra constellation; that it was created by a crazy and wacky Ischwisch, “King of Wisdom”.
Try to tell these highly educated professors of the human evolution, that man did not evolve from the ape; the ape came from man and that Charles Darwin was wrong; he matched up several bones of different species to create his Theory of Evolution for profit and notoriety.
Or try telling a professor of secular studies of religion about “God-delusion and God-delusion insanity” and that the real Gods were extraterrestrial’s. Tell this professor that Jesus’s (Jmmanuel) Father was not Joseph, but in fact Gabriel, an extraterrestrial; and that Jmmanuel did not die on the cross.
And while you’re at it, tell the professor of archology that the Giza pyramid is not 3,000 to 4,000 years old, but in fact more than 73,000 years old.
The list truths can go on and on. My point is; these professors are not bad people; their just ignorant; which is not meant in a bad way. They just do not know the truth; yet.
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 305
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| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2016 - 03:45 am: |
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Thank you, Kenneth.
I will keep a seeking spirit.
Salome,
Bill |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 406
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2016 - 04:36 am: |
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G'day folks
Billy has an apple
From our Mates
Erra
It's in formaldehyde do seeds keep then?
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1599
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2016 - 04:00 pm: |
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Thank you to Kenneth, Bill and all forum members here.
It reminds me about an amusing thought I had about the heart saying to the stomach 'hey I deserve a holiday as I have been by far the most hard working organ out of you lot' to which the stomach retorted 'rubbish if it wasn't for me you lot will all be starving, having heard this infighting the kidney shouted 'you idiots I am the one who most deserve a holiday as without my effort you lot will all be drowning in toxic waste to which the anus replied 'hey knuckleheads if it wasn't for me you would all be full of ***t, then the brain intervened by saying 'ya know if it wasn't for my magnificent intelligence how in the heck would you have seamlessly co-ordinated all your activity and to this the body said 'to hell with the lot of ya I am going to take a holiday whether you stoneheads like it or not as I am by far the most important part of the human being' and then as soon as he did everyone died.
The moral of the story?
No one is more or less important and no work and effort is more or less important than another as everyone and every activity is integral to the whole in such a way that the inextricable link in the chain, whether weak, strong, big or small is the binding glue that holds every other and without it there exists no synergistic whole
Matt lee
9. “We may have all come on different ships, but we’re in the same boat now.”
Martin Luther King Jr |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 306
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| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2016 - 07:11 am: |
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Some further background information surrounding the biblical Genesis account:
The ancient Hebrews may have believed not only in one but several gods (Elohim) *)
If we accept that then on the 6th day of Creation these gods (Elohim) decided:
“Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…”
If several "gods" created mankind then the (original) Hebrew account had a few more similarities with Semjase’s report ( several ETs (Arus’ chief scientists) being the fathers of mankind).
"Then the LORD God formed a man.
He made him out of the dust of the ground.
He breathed the breath of life into him.
And the man became a living person" (Genesis 2:7).
Naturally the biblical description of how god created the first human, forming first a human sculpture out of clay, then breathing life into it, very much resembles Greek mythology:
The Titan god Prometheus made a human shape of mud and Athene (Zeus’ daughter) breathed the “breath of life” into the lifeless form.
http://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/The_Myths/Creation_of_Man_by_Prometheus/creation_of_man_by_prometheus.html
Regards Genesis 1:
We find strikingly similar passages in the Babylonian Enuma Elish:
E.g. God “…hovering over the face of waters …” / creation in 6 days etc.
There are strong indications that the older (pagan) Babylonian creation myths greatly influenced the biblical account.
For these details see
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Enuma_Elish
(page down to the header “Enushima Elish and The Bible” / Genesis
Salome,
Bill
*)
E.g. Abraham says to the Philistine king Abimelech (Gen 20:13) "….the gods (elohim) caused (plural verb) me to wander ….” (similar: Gen. 20:13, 35:7, 2 Sam. 7:23 and Ps. 58:11 etc.) |
Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2016 - 05:09 pm: |
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Good researching Bill
You are very informed about these things more than I'll ever be and that is fact and not a sugar coated platitude.
Anyway I always did wonder about these references in religious texts myself actually.
If through religion the God's of lies or false gods try to subjugate and control people, to me at least, its only natural that all religious texts weren't written by earth native human beings alone but also by ET inspiration through telenotic devices or some passages were directly written by the 200 odd scientists themselves.
This is just my assumption.
Matt lee |
Stardustwilly
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2016 - 06:35 pm: |
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Votan, you can search any scientific, or engineering subject, and on youtube, list and list of lectures will come up, I can't remember where all I've been, the only one I remember watching the other day was a lecture On AC RLC circuits, it was a lecture at Yale, I usually watch less advanced material, but the same subject because it's more pleasant to watch, a lot of the heavy, Yale, MIT, stuff I understand the general concepts, but I get lost with the really most important points sometimes. These people who teach the classes have to be smart, what I was trying to say, here I have this information, that I really can't tell much of anybody, information that they might not have, but when I try to understand these professor's work, I have trouble mastering the concepts completely, I'm sure these guys are smarter than me in general, but I read here they usually don't have any knowledge of this case. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 307
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 29, 2016 - 04:50 am: |
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Re. Gen 6
The time on Earth just after the destruction of Atlantis did not only leave a scene of total destruction dark skies.
Life for those living through these times must have been quite hard, rough and ruthless.
Especially for the few still living Earth females:
Arus’ subleaders had become very independent.
They called themselves “ Sons of Heavens”, caught Earth females, tamed them, mated with them creating (Semjase in March 1976) “mutated beings who were dwarf-like, gigantic*) or even animal like”
Maybe even hybrids like the “centaurs” in the Greek sagas which according to Billy did once really exist?
Semjase’s report sounds very different than what we find in the Hebrew and Christian bible which report re. the offspring between supernatural beings and beautiful human females
“They were the great heroes and famous men of long ago.”
According to Semjase it sounds like some scientists may have used their knowledge of gene manipulation in a bizarre way, too.
The Hebrew bible portrays this era*) as the time of. the “Nephilim”:
“…The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them which were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown ...”
“And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim
The translation of the word “Nephilim” is not quite clear:
- The “nephilim” may have been the “ones descending from “heaven” or “the fallen ones”. (“fallen angels”).
- Others translate it with "those that cause others to fall down".
- The word could as well mean the “grotesque ones” – referring to the grotesque looking offspring that were created by them.
There is, however, no doubt that the leaders of Arus called themselves “the Sons of God” – just as the Hebrew bible names them.
And that they begot not only children but as well mutations – as we learn from Semjase’s March 1975 CR.
Thus Semjase’s record would explain Arus ‘ fit of rage, as expressed in God’s condemnation in Gen 6:5:
“When the Lord saw how wicked everyone on Earth was and how evil their thoughts were all the time, he was sorry that he ever made them and put them on the Earth.”I will wipe out these people and as well the animals and birds because I am sorry that I made them…”
Conclusion
It is astonishing that no reader of the bible ever questioned what the bible records in Gen 6 which first mentions that supernatural beings mating with Earth women created “the great heroes and famous men of long ago”.
“Great heroes” - this is not a “bad” creation then - or is it?
But even if this was “wicked” – it was no Earthling acting “wickedly”.
So why then would – in the very next sentence – the biblical God condemn humanity and even the animals and birds?
Only Semjase’s explanations make sense.
Salome,
Bill
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Sanchuniathon, a Phonecian who reportedly had access to secret records of Egyptian priests (Ammonites), mentions in his pre-Trojan writings (ca. 1200 BCE) a part-similar history:
“…A race of Titan-like mountain beings arose, "sons of surpassing size and stature, whose names were applied to the mountains which they occupied... and they got their names, he says, from their mothers, as the women in those days had free intercourse with any whom they met…."
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanchuniathon |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2016 - 08:00 pm: |
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I forgot the ending:
PS
Kenneth, as you mentioned academic bias interfering with free research, you may find the chapters “Evidence of Atlantis” and “The Academic Cover Up” interesting.
At the bottom of the mentioned hyperlink
http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/the-amazing-connections-between-inaca.html
Salome,
Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 309
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2016 - 06:43 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth,
A few more “findings” re. “Tiahuanaco” (add-on to post 299)
- A large bowl (“Fuente Magna Bowl “) with very, very ancient Sumerian writing was found there
http://olmec98.net/Fuente.htm
(NB: The writer of this article believes that Sumerian would have - by boat - made the trip to South America - which is a very unlikely assumption.
But his findings re. the writing on the bowl are more realistic and very detailed.)
- Carvings of an elephant – this animal would be unknown to prehistoric South Americans
- C. Berlitz mentions watermarks in the Andes mountains that support the abrupt lifting of these mountains
- This sudden uplift (like a sea saw – see my previous mail) did not damage Tiahuanaco’s buildings much because they were constructed to resist very heavy earthquakes:
Not only were the boulders large (some weigh over 100,000 kg) and uneven shaped but finely cut into patterns that interlocked with surrounding boulders (not even a sheet of paper would fit in the gaps). They were as well hold together by silver bolts.(Ripped out by greedy Spanish “conquistadors” – it was only the earthquakes since then that made the buildings collapse).
- The lore of people living there is that Tiahuanaco was built (a long time ago) “by the gods”.
This reminds of ancient Egyptian records which speak as well of a “the reign of gods over Egypt for thousands of years before the First Dynasty …”(Menes 3150 BCE)
Indeed, there are many parallels between Egypt and Peru:
The skull surgery of Incas and ancient Egyptians http://www.academia.edu/4125031/Trepanation_Skull_surgery_in_ancient_Egypt
The division of the year into 12 months of 30 days with an add-on of days at the end of the year.
Both cultures used the plough.
These and many other similarities *) point to a connection.
It was impossible for prehistoric peoples to travel between Egypt and the Americas.
So it is a safe presumption that a very advanced culture that could - many millennia ago -travel to the various parts of our world, must have educated the natives in both these countries.
Salome,
Bill
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see e.g.
http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/the-amazing-connections-between-inaca.html |
Corey
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Post Number: 1060
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 01:06 am: |
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Bill,
OM has a section at the beginning, which lists various cultures ancient names for their gods, many of which were similiar in various areas of the world, thus would lead one to the conclusion that the same human posing as a god, was in various places around the world, amongst various terrestrial natives.
Thus, as Gaiaguys used to say, "the Gods were once human".
Salome
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 265
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 11:56 am: |
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Bill, Corey,
This is amazing correlated information; excellent work.
Quick question; who were to two extraterrestrials (Gods) that fought each other over human sacrifice and blood cults? The one against these sacrifices lost the battle?
Kenneth |
Getknowledge
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 04-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 03:37 pm: |
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The gods didn't tell the truth that they were human, the people didn't know any better. Probably with advanced tech and a seeming immortal 1000 year lifespan a single god have manipulated and controlled 10 different generations of genetically modified Earth humans easily. So in that way, the God-delusion insanity was past down from generation to generation, until the year 1977 with the deportation of the Giza intelligence. Its now only a matter of the earth human to free himself and not cling to the consciousness enslaving religions and running with it, but it'll take another 800 years for the words of the herald of the new time to take effect and permeate the thinking for most of humanity.
Tien
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 311
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 03:18 pm: |
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Hi Corey,
Yes, I have
Thank you - yes I had the same thought.
I haven't got the OM.
If it is not too much trouble - would you be able to reveal (some of) the gods allocated to Egyptian, Greek, Indian and Norsemen cultures and some of the names of their gods?
Thank you for your assistance.
Salome,
Bill |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1154
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 05:30 pm: |
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> Please also see: http://theyflyblog.com/?p=3D3656 |
Corey
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Post Number: 1063
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 05:45 pm: |
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Bill:
Egypt: TOTH, TEUT
Greek: TEOS
Indian: TUSA, TURA
Couldn't find any listings for Norsemen. TEOS shows up under more then one listing, also listed for "Kopten", and TIOS is listed for "Samaritaner".
Kenneth: I have no idea, sorry. 
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1155
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| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 09:10 pm: |
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In case that link doesn't work:
http://theyflyblog.com/2016/03/04/the-roar-of-the-paper-tigers/ |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2016 - 09:19 pm: |
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Corey,
Egyptian Gods; no idea how accurate this is as modern day humans had their finger in the antiquities. We do know that Ptah "Creator" was an ancient ET God; according to who we know today as Ptaah, from Billy. Ra (RE) may be another legitimate one?
Aker - "the Bender"
Guardian of the traveling sun.
Ammut - "Dead-Swallower"
Demon; ate souls.
Anubis - "the Royal Child"
Jackal-god of mummification.
Aten
Disk of the sun.
Amon - "the Hidden One"
Theban king of the gods.
Anqet - "Embracing Lady"
Water goddess of Elephantine.
Apep
Snake who tried to kill the sun.
Atum - "the Complete One"
God of the setting sun.
Baal - "Lord," "Power"
Semetic god of storms
Bastet - "Devouring Lady"
Cat-goddess of the home.
Buto - "She Who is Green"
Cobra-goddess of Lower Egypt
Bat
Ancient celestial cow-goddess.
Bes
Dwarf-god of music & warfare.
Duamutef - "Praising his Mother"
Protected stomach of the dead.
Geb - "Earth"
God of the earth.
Hapi - "Runner"
God of the Nile.
Hathor - "House of Horus"
Cow-goddess of love & music.
Heket
Frog-goddess of infinity.
Hapy - "Runner"
Guarded the lungs of the dead.
Heh
God of infinity.
Horus - "High, Above"
Falcon-god of the sun.
Ihy - "Sistrum-Player"
Son of Hathor, god of jubilation
Imsety - "the Kindly One"
Guarded the liver of the dead.
Imhotep - "He Comes in Peace"
Vizier of Djoser; son of Ptah.
Isis - "the Throne"
Goddess of magic.
Khepera - "Comes Into Being"
Beetle-god of the rising sun.
Khonsu - "Traveler"
Theban god of the moon.
Khnemu - "Protector/Enricher"
God of the Nile inundation.
Ma'at - "Truth"
Goddess of order & truth.
Meshkhent - "Birthing Place"
Brick-goddess of childbirth.
Min - "the Firm One"
God of male fertility.
Mut - "Mother"
Theban mother-goddess
Meretseger - "Loves Silence"
Goddess of the Valley of the Kings.
Mihos - "True Before Them"
Lion-god, son of Bastet.
Montu - "Nomad"
Egyptian god of war.
Nefertem - "Lotus"
Memphis god of the lotus.
Nekhebet - "She of Nekheb"
Vulture-goddess of Upper Egypt.
Nun - "Abyss"
God of the primordial waters.
Neith - "One Who Is"
Goddess of war & weaving.
Nephthys - "Mistress of the House"
Sister of Isis & wife of Seth.
Nut - "Sky"
Goddess of the sky.
Onuris - "Sky-Bearer"
Warrior and sky-god of Abydos.
Osiris - "He Sees the Throne"
Lord of the afterlife.
Ptah - "Creator"
Mummified creator god.
Qebehsenuef - "Brother's Cooler"
Protected intestines of the dead.
Qetesh - "Holy"
Semetic nature goddess.
Re - "Sun"
Creator god of the sun.
Reshep - "Lightning"
Warrior-god of storms.
Renenutet - "Nourishing Snake "
Goddess of the harvest.
Satet - "One Who Shoots"
Goddess of the Nile & fertility
Selket - "She Who Breathes"
Scorpion goddess of magic.
Seshat - "Lady Scribe"
Goddess of measurement.
Shu - "Dry"
God of the air.
Sokar
God of the Memphis necropolis.
Sekhmet - "Powerful Female"
Goddess of war & destruction.
Serapis
Syncretic god of the afterlife.
Seth - "To Dazzle"
God of chaos; killed Osiris.
Sobek - "Watching Over You"
God of crocodiles.
Sopdet
Goddess of the star 'Sirius.'
Tauret - "the Great One"
Goddess of women & home.
Thoth - "Leader"
Ibis-god of wisdom & the moon.
Tefnut - "Sky-Spittle"
Goddess of moisture & rain.
Wepwawet - "Opener of the Ways"
Usher of the dead.
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/section-deities.htm |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 06:25 am: |
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Thank you very much, Corey, Michael and Kenneth.
Greatly appreciated.
Salome,
Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2016 - 08:37 am: |
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“The silent revolution of truth…”
Our Forum promotes truth and wisdom.
Our discussions should assist Billy and Ptaah.
We should discuss what is wrong with “creator gods with double standards” that haunted humanity - from the Sirian overlords to Arus the Barbarian, to the Gize Intelllgences
If we accept Billy’s and Semjase’s account of human life on our planet than most Earth humans carry the genes of an ancestral father who belonged to Arus’ group of scientists and their other 50 % to a mother that may have had as well some ET genes (e.g. Sirian overlords / exiled Lyrian / Atlantis citizen).
During the many existences since then a great majority of mankind was ruled by creator gods.
Over and over again our forefathers had to submit to their religious deception and double standards.
The habit became a “gene”, and was transmitted from one generation to the next.
To overcome the violence and double standards we witness in our world, we, indeed, need a deep knowledge, a new awareness , “a silent revolution truth” – and use it as a weapon similar to Gandhi’s defiant stand against the double standards of colonial power.
We, too, should stand united to create a new human consciousness that sincerely questions the value system that guides human behaviour.
Greek philosophers usually posed a question, had disciples giving a variety of answers and then examining all opinions before deciding on what should be the best or right answer.
They used this method to develop a human self awareness that questions what it perceives.
But no holy book would allow a truly questioning mind, the religions in our world – apart from Buddhism – do not allow a truly open discussion. And the same prejudice and superiority that religion educated was used by many kings and queens to further their domination.
In the episodes when mankind questioned traditions – like e.g. in ancient Greece or during the Renaissance – many useful discoveries evolved.
The opposite was true during the “dark ages” – the time when man “did not ask questions” but blindly believed what religion instilled in him from the outside.
Religious blindness did not only create no new wisdom – it did as well destroy most ancient knowledge (Maya, Aztec – Egypt/Alexandria).
Why would "god" belittle man’s search for truth – why would he use man’s mistakes to create a sense of inferiority and guilt rather than telling him that learning from mistakes is the modus vivendi of all creation in this universe?
It is time that mankind questions who or what it called and calls “his gods” ….
Salome,
Bill |
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