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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1659
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Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2016 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Michael for the source
In Regards to the link on Monte Cavo I feel that this dormant vent being so close to Rome may be the outlet or triggering point of the coming earthquake in Rome set off from Vesuvius eruption and to use a crude analogy if people have two pimples on their face close to each other and you squeeze one the other one also either pops or it nearly does from the pressure applied via your two finger nails on the first one.
If the puss from under the skin represents the magma then the full buildup of it represents the pressure force exerted to the nearest exit and that being the volcano where the thin layer of skin cannot hold on any longer triggering the climatic release resulting in the slight pulpitation and twitching of the surrounding area of the skin which represents the follow on effect as an earthquake.

Come to think of it there is a big bad humongous zit in Rome and people know what that is.
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI

"This estimation of 400 km2 comes relatively close to the figure of 523 km2 given in CR 214, but did Meier publish this information before scientists discovered it? No, CR 214 (contact date February 3, 1987) was entirely absent in any earlier publications and was only first published in 2004, 3 years after the size and depth of the magma chamber was discovered and reported by scientists. And even though Meier mentioned as early as in 1982 in Prophetien (CR 136) that the magma of Vesuvius extending beneath the city of Rome, the distance from Mount Vesuvius to Rome is nearly 240 kms and there is still no evidence today showing that these magma channels of the Vesuvius volcano extend beneath the city of Rome."

http://www.billymeieruforesearch.com/prophecies-predictions-probability-calculations/analysis-of-contact-reports-101-196/#Mount_Vesuvius_extends_beneath_the_city_of_Rome_WW_III
ufoprophet.blogspot.com
"..covers the media archives from 1970's about the most controversial Swiss UFO Contactee - 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier."
billymeieruforesearch.com
"..researching and archiving both the pro & con evidence of the case."
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 472
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day Votan
Yes they can pack up and close shop, 500 km ball of molten magma, shizer
They can move the hoard of thangs before a Fracture of the vatica
It would be good if the people get a looksky at the priceless treasures,
The storehouse is very large, would be difficult to move quietly
Salome
Ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1186
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The actual distance between Naples and Rome is actually about 189 kilometers. And poor Mahigitam, being confronted with Meier's prophetically accurate information that he continues to deny, is still out there, continuing to snatch defeat forth jaws of victory.
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Matthew
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Post Number: 138
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Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2016 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"...in the year of the three-value, with terrible sound"


13/04/2029 = 21 = 3
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Hugo
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Post Number: 234
Registered: 04-2015
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2016 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How come our internet armchair expert couldn't get this simple one right when there are websites solely for this measurement purpose between places like below?

Distance between Rome and Naples

Distance between Rome and Naples is 187.47 km. This distance is equal to 116.49 miles, and 101.16 nautical miles.

http://www.distancefromto.net/between/Rome/Naples


I guess Mahigitam was measuring the distance between the two by the road travel distance info like below.


my picture
2 h 12 min (225.9 km) via A1/E45


"the distance from Mount Vesuvius to Rome is nearly 240 kms..."

Well done Mahigitam but hey don't let the facts get in the way of your agenda to discredit everything in the Meier case.
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Hugo
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Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2016 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I meant this one -

my picture
distance from Rome to Mount Vesuvius = 2 h 39 min (239.7 km) via E45
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Mahigitam
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Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2016 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Michael Horn @Hugo

I honestly appreciate your correction. Now the distance between Mount Vesuvius and Rome according to the url Hugo provided above comes to 201.32 kms (~200 kms). This minor error on BMUFOR page doesn't in anyway disprove my point about the publication dates. I will be even more than happy if anyone of you could point out more errors that affects the conclusion.
http://www.billymeieruforesearch.com/prophecies-predictions-probability-calculations/#Conclusions

On the other hand, it is rather amusing that in more than 100 so-called scientifically proven prophecies/predictions that we have addressed on BMUFOR, all you can point out being a flaw is the distance value that has zero effect on the conclusion!
ufoprophet.blogspot.com
"..covers the media archives from 1970's about the most controversial Swiss UFO Contactee - 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier."
billymeieruforesearch.com
"..researching and archiving both the pro & con evidence of the case."
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Matthew
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2016 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mahesh,

We get it, you enjoy proofreading important works of literature and discovering mistakes others miss. It maybe time for you to put those skills to good use? For example: https://www.upwork.com/o/jobs/browse/skill/proofreading/

Try to avoid publishing every error you find though and thinking this is more important than the work you are proofreading as your employers may think you a bit dim.

Matthew
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Hugo
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2016 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mahigitam,

No problem. :-)

I appreciate it if you could drop your biased agenda to disprove the Meier case and just do an unbiased proper investigation/research based on the evidence in the case.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1189
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2016 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone who reads the Henoch Prophecies (http://www.theyfly.com/henoch-prophecies) without prejudice, and understands that their latest publication was around 2002, will find the clear, unambiguous warnings about the events that have unfolded and are continuing to unfold, as is also the case with Meier’s other prophecies and predictions (http://www.theyfly.com/prophecies-predictions).

With all of the verifiable prior publications - and such wonderful new information that adds to the authenticity and credibility of Meier’s Iceman information (http://theyflyblog.com/2016/07/17/otzi-gives-skeptics-ulcers-and-fits/) - it’s fine with me if people want to engage in futile, pointless, mental masturbation in order to carry out an agenda that is designed to do the impossible, i.e. prove this singularly extraordinary gift to humanity to be a “hoax”, etc.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 475
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Posted on Friday, July 29, 2016 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know what the tinnitus Billy has is
I bet he is letting it build up eh eh

When he dies I know the earth will shake somewhere, maybe even a big Fracture

It's his 7th mission here and we All know what that means
Resistance is ??????
Salome
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2016 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know if this is some kind of twisted thinking on my part but with a great deal of time and effort spent on deconstructing Billy Meier's works by Mahesh it deserves it's just reward.

May be we cannot see it yet but within the detailed work by Mahesh there are some positives to be gained from it albeit at least for the future.

Take for instance the fact that with additional criticism or critique comes chance to amend errors in contact notes such as dates, vocabulary used and others which may have been missed by supporters.

Another thing to note is that if Billy's materials take such a time consuming effort and detailed analysis to dissect and probe then what does this tell you about how extensive, monumental, intelligent beyond our wildest dream for mere mortals, voluminous, breathtaking amount of topics covered, extensive knowledge, amazing clarity and to the point all this Billy Meier stuff is that as the years roll on and on and the more people criticise it the more fantastic it gets not to mention the unequivocal recognition that it's impossible to fake, forge or even put all this together by plagarizing stuff from other sources.

As flawed and ill intentioned Mahesh's efforts maybe not to mention the flawed logic, conclusions and methodology I now see that there is some glimmer of positives coming out of his efforts.

Even if the truth can be buried, as the proverb states, there aren't enough shovel to buried it and truth being teflon coated even mud will eventually unstick but also people coming to their senses will realise that if there is no reason to bury something then the $64,000 question in the back of their mind is why would people bother going at all lengths to do so in the first place.

ummmmmmmmmmmmm..............
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Ilovebilly
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Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 04:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Google: smiley volcano in Hawaii

It was just a couple days ago
Looks like a smiley from earth

Salome
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2016 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The economic environment is definitely gloomy
It has been that way for some time.
Many companies are doing badly especially small businesses with many on administration or on the verge of bankruptcies.
Obviously the laws of cause and effect applies to everything.
You have the psychopathic and sociopathic people at the top running an equally psychopathic system where profits, profits and more profits is the end goal predominantly at the expense of everything else.
This thinking permeates every level of society where even the Joe blow on the street is gripped by these concerns as money equals self preservation and the ability to live in a system that is run and ruled by money.
The problem with all this is that this debt based fiat currency run system cannot go on forever and the money that should flow abundantly to the masses cannot due to the way the system is structured and everything naturally gets concentrated up the top to the various multi national corporation and corporate head honchos that ultimately run the entire system and the world.

Basically if the entire economic system is awash with debt there are that many parties being owed money and those who owe it to them.
If people and their nation don't have the adequate means of paying back the debt then one wonders first and foremost who exactly do they owe all this money to and how in the heck did they accrue all this debt in the first place and besides how was it possible and what were the means by which people and nations were able to end up with so much debt that they have to service for eons?

Well there are no easy answers to all this as it seems that everyone and every nation owes money to every other and they in turn to someone or something else but the important thing to remember is that nothings escapes the impulses of needs, wants, desires, monetary values and human beings penchant for accumulation of something of monetary value.

So I am trying to understand in simple terms why whomever I am employed by there is always insecurity attach to every employment, why I get laid off so easily and effortlessly by the company, why the job mark pays s**ttier and s**ttier wages from year on year out, why the price of everything goes up except the wages, where the stealth taxes number in the zillions, where every product I purchase already has tax component added to the hilt, why servcies offered by corporations is getting worse and worse, why many options I enjoyed decades ago no longer exists anymore, why whomever I speak with it feels like they are just consigned and confined to their fate of just accepting their sh**ty conditions without protest due to fear of getting the sack, why people just don't speak up and speak out, why we just can't unite for a good cause because there is just too much fear, disunity, selfishness, self interested-ness, self preservation and clash of ideas and ideals.

So now everything has raced to the bottom and what we have now is the product of what we all have directly and inadvertently caused.


And suffering we are and we all will more and more by the irrationality and irresponsibility of us all.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2016 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation,
There is a certain amount of rational logic in your statement.
Kenneth
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Stefan_z2
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Newinitiation,

What really annoys me is that Mahigitam is one of those manipulating and censoring the English Wikipedia article on Billy Meier. Looking in the page history one case see the dimension of highly subjective suppressions of important information for the benefit of making space for long refuted unsubstantiated accusations.

There are too many people that I have already encountered, who had earlier on after hearing or reading something about Billy Meier, taken only this stupid Wikipedia article for then shelfing the spiritual teaching etc. under fraud. Being one main cause for that to happen must be a pretty unpleasant and heavy weight on one’s conscience.

Salome,
Stefan
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth I am glad that I am in the company of like minded people here.
Thanks for your input.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stefan this is the way I see it.
I don't know if Mahesh had ancient ties to the mission as friend or foe or as one of the Gertrude but I firmly believe that this mission needed something or someone to apply the brakes from time to time so to speak.
This is the way it was meant to proceed I guess because all the counter force acted upon by the critics and the enemies of truth with their lies and defamation provides the nourishment and sustenance for people on earth to challenge their consciousness and use it as a fodder to finally get over the line from resistence.
It was definitely not the time or even for the vast majority of earthlings of this era.
So everyone who is directly or loosely involved as either friend or foe up until now since the beginning of Billy's mission have their role to play in the mission whether they recognise it or not.
Looking at it long term what Mahesh is doing really pales in insignificance in terms of damage done to the mission to what he unwittingly but in positive wise will do for it for the future generations to come.
We already know the outcome 800 years or so from now.
So there is nothing to worry about except to take things as they come and to deal with them as best we can then and there as they happen.

Matt lee
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

War To Get Rid of Overproduction?

We live in a time of great overproduction/-supply - in many areas – population, economics, helicopter money etc.
But for each excess there is a counter force building up to create a balance - hence the badly doing companies:

Sample
Major European banks (e.g. Credit Suisse / Deutsche Bank / Unicredit / Commerzbank and many more) have lost ca. 50 % of their share value during the past year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/16/ecb-closes-ranks-with-bank-of-england-to-avert-brexit-crunch/
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/aktien/europaeische-bankaktien-weiter-im-freien-fall-14369079.html

Overall it is a lack of cause and effect that world's economic leaders display - "they display their god like free will" may more express the truth behind the truth.

All major economies print more money and think they can use it to create growth - their preferred strategy seems to be:

Stimulate full employment / export more by lowering your currency – to get a lower currency lower your interest rate – the lower interest rate stimulates an uncontrolled building boom creating a hay fire "full employment" – print additional monies to finance it all - oversupply the market ...
Did I not read somewhere that overproduction is the root of many wars?

Because one does not need to be a rocket scientist to predict that at some stage "the wheels must fall off."

Yes, for some time man may use his free will to resist nature’s swinging wave and go against the laws of Creation (cause and effect, striving for a balance rather than excesses etc.).

But in the end the worldwide oversupply in ("printed") money, people, buildings etc cannot be sustained.

Hugo is quite right - the illusion of winning by dishonesty - it is everywhere.
Because it is an illusion which the leaders of major economies sell us as truth.

Will mankind accept the coming chaos, the coming failures - to look for a different teaching?
Will he realize that it was wrong to decide "God-like" and accept the laws of Creation as his leader?

Or will another worldwide "Great Depression" give rise to another worldwide war?

After all - this was historically proven in 1929/39 - all bubbles will burst sometime..


Salome,

Bill

“A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.”
Martin Luther King Jr
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Justsayno
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't forget the censoring on this forum too when it comes to Mahesh. I've tried to warn people on this blog about him/her but everything I've tried to warn about never gets posted. So who exactly is backing him/her?
Interesting about Billy's Wikipedia page, Stefan. I'm glad people finally know how corrupt Mahesh really is.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Joe
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mahigitam,

Instead of trying to "debunk" the Meier material how about you write a letter to your Indian Prime Minister and tell him about the dangers of overpopulation! Your country, India is a mess because of overpopulation! One doesn't need to be an advocate of the Meier material to realize that overpopulation has detrimental effects on us and the environment!
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Watchdog
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To Micheal Horn.

Your absolutely correct.
See link below. pig soldiers.

http://www.infowars.com/government-to-lift-moratorium-on-cross-species-chimera-research/
Pig people
David AKA Watchdog. USA

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