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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1528
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 07:02 am: | 
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Eddie if Sfath had time travelled before the fact to the future before he and Billy even made the decision not to tell the rest of the Plejaren he would still have gotten the same future of him not having told them about Nokodemjon's spirit forms real identity.
I mean C'mon the whole material is replete with prophecied and predicted information for surely the past prophets foresaw Billy coming and this information was hundreds of years and even thousands of years ago
The mere fact about Jeremia and Isaia's prophecies or even Petale's prophecies speaks of the future in no uncertain terms
This can only mean one thing certain future events have already come to pass even before it has happened.
Take another example no matter who time travels back to Jmmanuel's time when he met Asket Billy and Jitchi they will see Jmmanuel meeting them and whoever time travelled into the future from Jmmanuels time, lets say Pelos, to the time when Billy embarked on a time travel back to Jmmanuel's time with Asket and Jitchi Pelos would definitely have seen them do a time travel into the past.
Its one of those mysterious paradoxes of time where the future has already become the past even if it hasn't happened yet.
This gets back to what I was saying in that the bulk of the future events is already determined even before it has happened otherwise time travel into the future should be impossible or that every time travel into the future should always turn out differently and thus no such thing as prediction also. |
Historeed
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 04:45 am: |
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Hugo,
From what I remember, Sfath had limited access to the Nokodemion storage banks and therefore knew about Billy's spirit-form.
Matthew Reed
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 682
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 05:59 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I can conclude that Billy would be able to do a better job at explaining this to you my friend.
I can only tell you that your assumptions are incorrect ...although I understand why you have come to these conclusions or thoughts.
Ask Billy and express your conclusions and see what he says.
Take care.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2015 - 07:29 pm: |
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Eddie, thanks but that didn't explain how Sfath knew Billy's spirit form was Nokodemion and why the other P's didn't.
Historeed, thanks but are you sure about that? Why would Sfath have limited access to Nokodemion's storage banks and the other P's didn't if they were also Ischwisch? |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 683
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 07:49 am: |
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Hugo, where did you read that Sfath (or anyone for that matter) had access to Nokodemjon's storage bank.
This requires Arahat Athersata level abilities.
I'm curious to read of someone having this ability.
Thnx.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 12:39 pm: |
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Eddie, I take it you meant to ask Historeed that question and not me. |
Historeed
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2015 - 12:46 pm: |
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Eddie,
I'm trying to find where I read that Sfath had limited access to the Nokodemion storage banks. I think it was in the English Q&A with Billy. I'll let you know if I locate it.
-Matthew Reed
Matthew Reed
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Historeed
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 12:59 pm: |
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Eddie,
Here is the info:
Hector
[Posted August 2009]
Hallo Billy Herzliche Grüsse
How did Sfath already know about the secret surrounding you (= you are the bearer of nokodemjon's spirit form) while the other Ischwischs who later contacted you (Semjase, Quetzal, Ptaah) couldnt unveil that secret for 14 years (1975-1989). Seems like "he was smarter" than the others...(no offense intended).
Did he receive help/hints from the High Council to discover the secret?
Answer:
Sfath was capable/able to get access to Henok’s storage banks, at least partially, and to „draw“ some information from there.
No, the High Council was not involved.
Matthew Reed
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Historeed
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 01:20 pm: |
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Eddie,
Here is further info on Sfath accessing the Nokodemion storage banks:
Nobody
[Posted October 2009]
hello Mr Meier
How was Sfath able to access the NOKODEMJON storage banks?
Answer:
Nokodemjon provided for this to happen.
There were two ways for gathering that information:
1) When Nokodemjon’s (N) and Sfath’s (S) spirit forms were simultaneously alive/incarnated, the person with N’s spirit form confided secret knowledge to the person with S’ spirit form. That knowledge then was stored in S’ storage bank, from where Sfath could retrieve the former knowledge.
2) The storage bank of each person’s spirit form has its own wave length/frequency, and the knowledge etc. that is stored within that electromagnetic/spiritenergetic frequency can only be reached/contacted by that specific spirit form. However it is possible to get some „random“ information from other frequencies if there is some „harmony“ between the two frequencies. It can be compared with an old radio where you find the clean sound by turning a knob. Before you reach the clean sound you just hear a buzzing sound or some fragments of the broadcast. In the same way it is possible to draw some fractions of information from another spirit form’s storage bank. That’s what Sfath was capable of.
Matthew Reed
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 684
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 05:56 pm: |
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Historeed,
It is just as I expected, had it actually been possible. It appears that Sfath's storage bank, thereby his subconscious mind, was provided with the specific knowledge by which in Sfath's last and proceeding personalities, he was/will be able to access this knowledge.
It is a testament of Sfath's impressive arduous study and very high development of his consciousness and his love for human beings and the Mission of Nokodemjon.
It will be nearly another 2,000 years before his next birth and proceeding personality.
Earth is fortunate and honored to have had one such as he.
A truly great and venerable Jshwjsh.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2015 - 05:50 pm: |
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Thanks Historeed! |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 266
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 12:38 am: |
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Do we think or are we being thought?
One point re. time travel and our everyday thinking.
Our thoughts reflect an image of our “self”.
It is true that during our daily lives this “self” is often deeply entangled with the causes and effects it perceives.
So we most often react or decide based on a self-image that is “the heir of one’s actions” (S. Buddha).
But this must not be so.
Our sensory experiences and how we interpret them are dependent on our thoughts.
These thoughts are often based on our “premature cognitive commitment” - interpreting reality solely as physical with our sense organs.
But we can witness reality as well with the same awareness that a time traveller would have when he now revisits the present.
There is a deep sense of “distance” to what his senses interpret as “time and space” reality.
If we accept such a “self image” than our emotions become a much less needed guide - as Semjase proved when she was able to say “Damn it” without any emotions.
In other words: A different self image, a different thought.
Cognizant that the true human reality is that of an “evolutionary time traveller” our thinking changes, too.
Our bodies may still carry our past evolutionary memory (DNA).
But our true being – the one that observes our body and environments - is felt as a part of the same creational force that makes the stars and galaxies.
“Peace in our world comes from an observing awareness. “
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13729.html?1446502267
The scenarios we witness are like the “experiments” of a scientist.
But our true “being” is the scientist himself.
He never forgets the long term direction of his research.
We, too, should be the creator of our thoughts and see the many scenarios we witness with a long term view.
Ultimately they are, we are, all are directed towards universal oneness.
To perceive the world with this sense of oneness is a great peace.
Salome,
Bill
"I want you to understand that there are no colors in the real world.
That there are no textures in the real world.
There are no fragrances in the real world.
There is no beauty, there is no ugliness.
Nothing of the sort.
Out there is a chaos of energy soup and energy fields. Literally.
We take that and somewhere inside ourselves we create a world.
Somewhere inside ourselves it all happens."
Sir John Eckles / Nobel laureate in Physiology and Medicine |
Watchdog
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Post Number: 80
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 12:04 am: |
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For the record.
A few weeks ago I posted some questions about time travel that to some may have appeared as if I was trying to debunk the BEAM story. Truly that isn't my goal. The time travel theory is a difficult concept to grasp and Id be a fool if I accepted something as factual without having a full understanding of it.
Just sayin.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Billwilson12
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 07-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 05:56 pm: |
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Car without mirrors not that far away. http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/18/masdar-citys-driverless-pods-now-whisking-students-around-on-a/
Peace
Billy Wilson
OM.K49 34. The human-restricted personality is itself only from time to time conscious. In between times lie great holes in the consciousness.
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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 07:53 pm: |
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Can anyone throw any light on this news from the USA? From NewsInsideOut.com:
"Andrew D. Basiago, a lawyer, former U.S. chrononaut, and Mars explorer, with an IQ of 168, whom career CIA officers associated with DARPA’s-secret time travel program confirmed that U.S. government secret time travel pre-identified him as a future U.S. President — as it did U.S. Presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama — officially declared his candidacy for President on talk radio’s Coast to Coast AM Saturday night[Dec 19]." Later: "..the U.S. government has used secret time travel technology.." and "..secret time travel would one day be used to acquire pre-knowledge of the outcome of elections.."
Am I to believe that the USA has time travel technology?The Plejaren can time travel in a beamship,but the USA!? |
Memo00
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Post Number: 638
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 08:02 am: |
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It is simple: bullshit
Salome |
Watchdog
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Post Number: 85
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 08:56 am: |
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Andrew D. Basiago also claims he would run for president and win in 2016. He better get busy because he's running out of time.
He's a wack job selling books.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1560
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 07:50 pm: |
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It appears to just be time babble to me but some people seem to have time trouble but time revel all Basiago wants he is not getting any milage points out of his travels ah hum in time. |
Watchdog
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 05:03 pm: |
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Another time travel question.
I ran across some time travel conversation between Billy and Semjase while I was reading random contact reports. I don't recall the exact contact report it was from but here's the premise.
Billy was about to go on an adventure in space with Semjase that would take about 2 hours. He was concerned about his wife and the time frame mentioned. Semjase told him she could bring him back to earth 2 hours back into time to eliminate any issues with Billy's wife. During her explanation of all that, she told Billy she could even take him back to where he could actually talk to himself in the past.
My question is. If a body can only have one "spirit" so to speak. How is it that two living existences of Billy where capable ?
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 12:34 am: |
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Well said-the above comments re Basiago.
Watchdog,your above question is something that has also bugged me.Billy time traveled with Asket and met Jmmanuel prior to his crucifixion and it bothered me how one spirit could be in 2 bodies at the same time.Mind you,I have little understanding of time travel-how we can have a past and future occurring at the same time;which implies that we can have infinite existences occurring similtaneously,since we can travel back or forward to any point in time.Anyway,if someone can throw some light onto your question it would be helpful.
It also bugged me when Billy travelled with Quetzal (I think) through the Bermuda Triangle dimension gate where there were 2 earths (maybe 3 ia all?)one with dinosaurs (past) and one with rocket flights (future).
Charles |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 390
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2016 - 11:47 pm: |
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In questions to Billy I remember he said: 1 spirit can be in the same place but the spirit evolution levels are different so the spirit is not identical
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kiwiseeker
Member
Post Number: 158
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 12:05 am: |
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Thank you Ilovebilly.I googled,the questions popped up and I was in luck-this was an early question-here it is:
Mario
Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 08:35 pm
"What happens when two persons with the same spirit form get together
in a time trip, like Billy and Jmmanuel? Billy can tell his first hand
experience, I hope.
Mario
ANSWER: It is not the "same" spirit form, even if it is of the same
lineage. One spirit form is less developed/evolved than the other, and
there are two entirely different personalities present.
The same is true even when a person visits oneself in the actual life
(through time travel).
The best way to make this understandable is when a person of, say, 50
years looks at an old photograph when he or she was 10 years old. The
child was a different personality than at the age of 50! You will be
aware of this if/when you look at a photograph!"
However,this still does not make sense to me.Sure,compared with Jmmanuel,the spirit within Billy is more evolved and therefore not identical,nonetheless it is still the same spirit.The HDD of my computer is different to what it was yesterday,since it contains more info,but it is the same HDD.I am different today compared with yesterday,but it is still me-the same person.Billy meets Jmmanuel-2 spirits separated in space;the same spirit in different locations.Billy mentions different personalities-true,but we are discussing the spirit forms.Anyway it happens and for me maybe one day the penny will drop.
Charles |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1136
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 08:20 am: |
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The HDD of your computer doesn't...evolve. |
