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Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 546
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 07:04 pm: | 
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Joe
China would not join the TPP because it would find it difficult to comply with some of the rules - like e.g. working conditions etc.
But China's government knows as well that most of the South China Sea countries have similar issues.
That is why it drew up its own free trade agreement - leaving out some of the TPP requirements.
As one can see from the Philippines' recent relenting - economic assistance translates into political gains.
Supported by the immense savings power of her people it can easily apply this insight.
The US with climbing national debt may not be able to match this support.
"It is (not warships but) all economics ..."
This in a nutshell is how the South China Sea issue is perceived...
B. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 677
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 12:50 pm: |
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Hugo
You are wrong as these islands belong to no one and the channels are free to any ocean going boats.
China just want to be bullies.Talk about arrogance.
joe
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2667
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 10:55 am: |
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Regarding the predicted upcoming civil wars in the US. A question was asked Christian today whether the civil wars within the US were inevitable or could they be averted. Here is his response with his permission:
"Apart from the fact that I don't know for sure whether the Civil Wars will happen, I would say that it is not impossible that they can be prevented, but that it is rather unlikely. It would require that the great bulk of the US people would immediately wake up from their hatred, paranoia and religious narrow-mindedness etc. That's requirement one. And simultaneously, the overall greed for material profit among the "elite" should change to a substantial degree to a perspective of decency, modesty and welfare etc. for the entire society. That's requirement two. And above all, the shadow government (which is directing the course of the USA behind the official government and unknown to it) would have to make a 180° turn of its long-term objectives of ruling and exploiting the entire planet. And all of this would have to occur extremely fast (compared with historical developments). And of course additional measures and requirements would be necessary to bring a positive effect.
Who knows, perhaps Donald Trump may achieve some positive results if he really concentrates on the welfare of his country and would finally succeed to unite the different population factions which are at enmity with one another.
Everything depends on the thinking of the people. And usually, a change or development of thought modes and views need quite a lot of time."
Salome
Scott |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 12:55 pm: |
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Scott, can I obtain permission to share this substantial information (your post with CF's information) with my study group?
Salome/Corey Müske
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Kanesean
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 07:02 pm: |
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Those requirement are pretty much impossible to achieve. They are not realistic at all.
That is almost equivalent to CIA decided to admit the authenticity of BEAM case tomorrow, maybe 0.1% chance?
We are seeing the diving line right now. If the civil war breaks out and divides us into 4 parts: I think
The Liberal Area: Washington, Oregon, and California....possibly AZ and NV
The Red State: Utah, Texas, and most of mid U.S.
Not sure how the other two parts going to look like. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 321
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 07:22 pm: |
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Scott, your country already is the Divided States of America thanks to the establishment and MSM because of this election. I see them continuing to instigate hatred towards Trump which will only exacerbate the situation and division. I doubt Trump will be able to unite the people or get the elites on his side. I think it is too late to avoid the break up of your country. If so, your paper money will be worth nothing too. A nightmare place to live. Get out of there if you can. That's what I be doing if I lived there. |
Sparky
Member
Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 11:35 pm: |
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> Canada may be a good place to go, we even have a small community of us in a rural area. |
Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 80
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 09:36 am: |
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Regarding the coming civil wars, Billy already gave us the answer, i.e., "yes, all America will be wrecked" whether Clinton or Trump wins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRJoJjzcig |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2668
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 10:41 am: |
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Hi Corey, Christians response was actually from a question from one of the members of my study group. Since it is now publicly available, I would think it could be shared with your group as well. I have let the members of my study group know Christians response. You could always let the members of your group access the Forum to read his response also. Hope that helps
Salome
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 681
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 12:43 pm: |
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Sparky
Stay away from Canada, Russia will invade Canada.
joe
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Stardustwilly
Member
Post Number: 91
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 05:07 pm: |
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Can anybody give us an idea of the effects of a civil war in america, questions what if, would the internet be cut of, how about radio and TV stations, would electrical utilities go, how about travel, impossible, no gas in the pumps, could you still do your banking? How about food in the grocery stores, medical care? I believe the average civil war is about seven years, and if there are two, that could be a long stretch to live in, will civilians be fighting in group with private arms, or organized and funded armies fight, or some of both. Will oil imports stop, and imports in general, sports, movies? Gone also? I you have money in banks, and or stocks, will they still exist on paper and electronically after the war is finished? |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 736
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 07:55 am: |
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It is my impression that the civil wars are already happening.
Unfortunately, many that should know better are simply caught up in the emotions and adding fuel to the fire.
Fortunately for me, I have well recognized the insights and advice I found through arduous study of the Goblet of the Truth and I have vastly improved my understanding of controlling my fate through the book Might Of The Thoughts. So my life is very well set now and I am working on some creative ideas for the Mission.
Through social media the "knowing ones" of FIGU have a powerful might and influence ....if only this power were harnessed and in a conscientious way wielded to put out this fire of hate and animosity between people.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Sparky
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:50 am: |
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I'm already here and don't plan on leaving. I'm not as concerned about Russi= a invading Canada as the USA having civil wars. Russia would most likely be p= assing through Canada to get to the former USA to secure dangerous weapon (n= uclear weapons) from being set off or getting into dangerous hands, also oth= er dangerous site (nuclear power plants, weapons depots) would need to be se= cured and either decommissioned or stabilized. Any reasonable country would d= o these things if the USA collapsed and was in anarchy. Whatever parts of th= e USA that are functioning well will likely be left alone as long as they do= n't turn into another North Korea. |
Sparky
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 11:00 am: |
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Don't expect any services, try to live like that, grow your own food and mak= e preserves, keep warm on your own, water is critical. Don't even expect ele= ctricity as a solar flare could knock out anything you have with a circuit b= oard. Be able to live on your own without electricity and then add self suff= icient electricity to that like solar panels and batteries. A good test to s= ee if you're ready is have a collapse week, turn off the power and water to y= our place and see how you fare without going out side to get anything. If yo= u want communications the a short wave radio or CB radio may be you only opt= ions. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 322
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 06:28 pm: |
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Stardustwilly, I think the civil wars with the breakup of the US happened, it would also mean that US dollar becomes worthless like Billy said, even though he did not link the two together. If that happens, you just have to look at what is currently happening in Venezuela where their money is practically worthless. Chaos, super hyper inflation, money buys nothing and most people are starving. A nightmare!
Don't risk it, if you can get out of the US before it happens, then consider it while your money still has high value can afford to set you up in another country. That is what I would do. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 251
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 06:43 am: |
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Hugo....... you are advocating exactly the behavior of current migrants and immigrants...... you keep stressing to "get out while you can". Your thinking has led to the serious issues we are facing now ....most people want to "run away" when the going gets tough..... Americans need to stay put and experience the effects we've caused..... running away to another country is a sign of Cowardice... in my opinion.... you are "naive" if you for one moment " believe" you will not be affected in one way or another..... are you reading any of the FIGU bulletins put out by your country?
I also agree with Eddie......
MsMichelle
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Norm
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 04:11 pm: |
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The Donald Trump factor? Defcon nuclear threat at SAFEST LEVEL following inauguration
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/762182/donald-trump-defcon-level-nuclear-war |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 683
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:31 pm: |
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Norm
Defcon level means nothing when the Muslims are invading the world.Nostradamus was right after all and nobody listened.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 553
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:34 pm: |
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Hi Eddie,
“…It is my impression that the civil wars are already happening…”
Yes, and not only in the Land of Opportunity.
There is cause and effect in all spheres of life, including politics.
Thus if a major force in politics declares “a greater measure of self interest” it will have the effect that other will do so, too.
The competition among the “individuals” will then play out until a new war (trade and/or real) may break out and “end” with a temporary synthesis.
But it is only a temporary “relief” …
When will humanity realize that the idolization of “individualism” is an "illusive temptation", is on the wrong side of evolution because human life should be a path, a steady growth into to a “we” personality / universal oneness?
This is why my thoughts on the evolution of a “prison planet” *) stressed the need for a more compassionate mind set.
Because the unity we give is the unity we get.
Salome,
Bill
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80121 |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 684
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:35 pm: |
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Msmichelle
Are you serious, what an advice to give. If the situation is really bad would you stay.
It is up to each individual to assess the threat and act accordingly.
joe
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Sparky
Member
Post Number: 46
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 07:10 pm: |
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I agree Msmichelle, if you are fleeing to protect your life and family (thos= e whom you are responsible for) then fleeing is a valid action. If you are b= eing attacked in your home should you stay because and be killed because you= made the mistake of not putting the proper deterrent for the perpetrator? |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 559
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 07:07 pm: |
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Hugo, Votan,
There will be no place to run or to hide. If a 3rd/4th world war breaks out, the entire planet will be effected. All the luxuries that you have today, most likely will not exist if a nuclear war erupts.
Kenneth |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 07:04 pm: |
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Votan, They both mean something or Billy wouldn't talk about them. |
