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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2677
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 07:59 am: | 
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There will be no more discussion of "Jews", or the Jewish people etc.
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 892
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 07:15 pm: |
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Hugo,
That is closer, yes, but there are Zionists that are not Jews. Some are ardent Christians and so therefore not Jewish by either religion or race (depending on which definition of the Jewish race one uses).
Zionism and Zionists support the state of Israel which is why previously it was officially regarded as a political entity or movement by the UN. That official designation has since been removed, but many still hold the definition to be true. It is only the official status that changed.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 649
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 03:43 am: |
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Chris - I know, holding Jews to account is made difficult by how easily they change their stripes. At one moment it's an intrusively moralizing religion, another an indignantly defended ethnicity, another an anachronistic tribalism, a fourth moment it morphs into a desperate Nationalism, and then assumes some combination of them all. I've decided the easiest way for me to think of Jews is as members of a Semitic religion... whose first belief and concern is about race. That would explain why in any conversation about intrinsic distinctions among groups of people, the JQ is laid on the table to disrupt progressive idea-exchange. (What were we talking about???)
Tyler - no, Jews don't constitute a monolithic entity, regardless of what Zionists would have us believe.
Matthew - still trying to put me on the defensive. Do you ever give it up?
Hugo - Zionism is deeply intertwined around Judaism, no doubt, but using that term is just blood in the water for some folks. Might as well just go all out and really piss people off, if you're gonna, by mentioning 'the eternal Jew'.
Andrew - I don't really pay much attention to any religion anymore. They all seem more than a little bit wacko to me. Even the Meier material can sometimes come across as a step over the rainbow to me. It's a far cry from when I started when I started posting to this forum (2001!) as a hippy/devotee of Sathya Sai Baba, and having made pilgrimage to various monuments, and talked with (or lived with) various wise-people and saints: Joao de Deus, Ammachi, Ananda Mai Ma, (((Michael Shapiro))), Yogananda, King Fisher, and others you've probably never heard of. To be clear, the spiritual existence is definitely a reality, but it seems to me that when folks are making sense of it, alot of them are groping in the dark, even when they can do some pretty amazing things. Nowadays, I just dabble in fairies, gnomes, sprites, pixies, and elves: nature spirits all.
I s'pose the topic of Jews comes up so often with me because I attempt to delve into the topics that most need attention: peace, fairness, social inequities, and corruption. In all of these arenas, Jews play prominent roles, both good and (all-too-often) bad. Were Jews to not be such ....mmmm.... busy people, well, the world would be a more boring place, no doubt.
Life
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Historeed
Member
Post Number: 121
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 04:16 am: |
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Michaelhelfert,
When you use alt-Right indicators like putting (((brackets))) around words to point out Jews, it makes me skeptical of your intentions towards Jews. Please know that I hold no ill-will towards you as a person, I just find your thinking on this matter abhorrent.
Matthew Reed
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Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 797
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 10:27 am: |
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One day I was at the hospital gift shop looking around and kept on running into an older lady who complained about the prices of everything. I finally asked her if she was Scotch and she replied that she was Jewish. We laughed and laughed.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 363
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 07:34 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert, my friend was an ardent follower of Sathya Sai Baba. He flew over and visited him twice. His house is full of photos and paintings of him. When SSB died about 10 years ago he was in tears. He still believes in SSB. I tried showing him the Meier material where it says SSB is a conjuror and hoax but he laughs at me for believing in Meier because of the UFO connection. So we never spoke about SSB or Meier again. |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 289
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 07:55 pm: |
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After reading the post 428 (28 pages) in the overpopulation section..... I will admit I have a tendency to be "misanthropist"... because I deal with all walks of life and it can be very daunting and challenging..... the ongoing hatred and battles to those of Jewish descent appears to be a "boomerang reaction" in my opinion.... however I will continue to read this article which is powerful and packed full of important knowledge to make sure I do understand why this continues for millennia
MsMichelle
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 893
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 10:35 pm: |
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Michael, so the people you were talking about and should have been referring to are not as named but "members of a Semitic religion whose first belief and concern is about race."
I will comment no further on this as Scott has reminded us that this is at the very least off topic for this thread.
Let's get back to the topic of WW III.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Andrew_grimshaw
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2017 - 04:47 am: |
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Yes, Yes.
What WW III? Who would want such a thing?
The bane of humanity?
The Israeli Dew brings life, NO?
Contact Report 136
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Andrew_grimshaw
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 06:54 am: |
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Msmichelle
I point out the following for you to think about in regard to your misanthropy; I find you to be very tolerant, loving, peaceful, free and harmonious.
Antisemitism, stranger-enmity (xenophobia), hatred of strangers, hatred of Jews, Jew-
enmity, racial hatred, racism, group-enmity, hatred of groups, neighbor-enmity, hatred of
neighbors, hatred of family, society-enmity, hatred of society (sorry I can't provide a link, can't know where I found this):
71 years after the end of the mass murders of the
Holocaust in the national socialism, the high point
of a morbid hatred of Jews and other 'strange' mi-
norities, like generally consciousness- and physi-
cally-disabled ones, as also homosexuals and les-
bians, was already a quiet hope grown in the one
and other human beings, that humaneness had
been learned. However this hope was a very weak
hope glimmering on a very distant horizon, be-
cause already from the end of the last world war
went on furthermore the murderous hatred of
Jews, foreigners, strangers and human beings of
other skin color, and indeed by many of the old Hit-
ler supporters, who had taken part and murdered
in the war, as also by the neo-Nazi, right-wing ex-
tremists and other feeble-minded ones, who would
carry on the scheme of the racial hatred delusion
in accordance with all forms of the Nazis and also
not therefrom shrink back, to murder for their rac-
ism delusion. All that, which itself refers to antisem-
itism, stranger-enmity, hatred of strangers, hatred
of Jews, Jew-enmity, racial hatred and racism,
which must be explained, has however nothing to
do with misanthropy (Greek:miseín 'hate',
'reject' and; ánthr;pos 'human beings'),
but rather it deals itself around the attitude of a
person, who hates human beings or at the very
least rejects their nearness. Such a person is des-
ignated a misanthrope, i.e., 'human being hater' or
'misanthropist', because he/she rejects generally
all human beings, which therefore has nothing to
do with racism. Thus misanthropy characterizes an
attitude and a consciousness-attitude, however no
mode of action, consequently a misanthropist must
neither act in Gewalt, be aggressive nor be arro-
gant, contrarily such a human being can even be
altruistically predisposed and therefore act devot-
edly, self-sacrificingly, selflessly, unselfishly, noble-
mindedly, magnanimously and nobly, also when
that stands apparently as paradoxically contrary to
his/her misanthropicness. Generally the mode of
action is described as attitudes and views of the
human beings, whereby however, with extreme
cases of disgust towards the human beings, the
misanthropy-predisposed one isolates him/herself
and leads a hermit's existence.
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Andrew_grimshaw
Member
Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 07:10 am: |
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Msmichelle,
It seems that what I was quoting from is what you are currently getting your consciousness around:
https://www.creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Periodicals/FIGUOpenWords/2017/FIGU%20Open%20Words%2004/Antisemitism_Racism_Hatred_Enmity-sec.pdf?ver=2017-03-01-231854-960
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 728
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 02:11 pm: |
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Andrew
I do not get what you are trying to convey.
joe
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Tyler
Member
Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 02:50 pm: |
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Ok, just one word: ...Habraons. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 602
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 03:50 pm: |
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Tyler,
Is this what you are referring too? This was a question to Billy by Newinitiation. [Posted March 2009]
Dear Billy
I don't get it, I really don't, Despite so many truths that Dr Greer has told throughout his life, it seems that he is working for the quasi-ultra secret group within a group that wants to control the flow of information about ET disclosure reaching the masses.
Cunning as he may be, from the current trend of story lines coming from the Hollywood blockbusters such as transformers 2, terminator 4 and aliens vs predator, the witness sighting of boxed rail carriages with shackles, millions of plastic coffins and the plethora of black budgeted secret underground tunnels and bases being built so rapidly all over the USA and the world and the deliberately engineered world economic crisis by the synarchic eastern oligarchical anglo elites (habraons, S&B, Pentagon, Jesuits, global banksters etc) the fraudulent simulated alien invasion must happen for these people which they have been working on for quite some time now to consolidate their maniacal powers and to beat their rival factions that think otherwise.
As strange and disturbing as it may sound, what are your views of the possibility in the near future concerning the possible simulated alien invasion with man made UFOs and genetically engineered alien lookalikes that the secret quasi group within a group have been working on for decades to achieve for their sinister agenda?
thanking you
Matt Lee
Answer:
Such machinations are not impossible, if we remember that other „impossible“ machinations have occurred before.
(Note by CF: …like the faked first moon landing.)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/chancede/Answers2.html |
Tyler
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 08:20 pm: |
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No, your looking waay too deep into it, I think.
I was just trying to clear the air about Jews, from some earlier posts that mentioned them and a whole discord fight was brewing it looked to me like. I guess you haven't gotten to the relevant part from the talmud yet.
Being a normal Jew is fine ... There is a different group of spirit-forms who go by the name "Jews" today.. but who were actually called .....
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 651
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2017 - 11:42 pm: |
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Tyler, if we could but define the dark competition, name them, encapsulate them with a single accurate understanding, then the conflicts surrounding that topic on this forum would quickly evaporate... I hope. One thing I know for certain, oddly enough, is that 'Jews' are not all that the perps are. Consider the following list of US wars and the resultant body counts. Many of the wars were NOT Zionist-inspired, but rather the blame for them should fall on the US CIA government of the time. So, while Jews are not beyond reproach, neither are so many other groups of people, esp. Americans when we put forth so irresponsible a form of government that we can't contain it.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
If we could approach the JQ with more honesty, without being so defensive, if we could just admit to an autistically honest interpretation of history, I think this discord would clear up. And if we can't... the FIGU will likely be bypassed by internet chat forums which do openly struggle with the moral questions, however thorny they may be. I don't know, may be that's not a bad thing, since the FIGU's purpose is not to burn away falsity by emphasizing social discord, but to emphasize paths to peaceful, meaningful coexistence.
Life
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Andrew_grimshaw
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2017 - 03:00 am: |
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Votan,
I am not trying to make known anything new.
BEAM and others have done that already and more than likely will continue to do so.
It's all there in the CRs and more.
I haven't yet read them all, nor the entire document I linked to above.
I could be wrong, been known to be before and bound to be a few more times to come.
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 652
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 08:09 am: |
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Following Trump's attack on Syria, about which Israel, the Clintonite-Left, and the warhawks on the Right are all most pleased, the alt-right is dropping Trump like a poisoned stone. It's funny, ha ha ha, it turns out that the people who are called 'haters' by everyone and their cousin are actually trying to bring about peace, while the people who represent 'love' actually have been pushing for more and more war. No one coulda seen that one coming. And in the meantime, the 'Religion of Peace' is conducted weekly, daily, hourly terror attacks, the latest significant happening of which was another 'Truck of Tolerance' mowing Swedes down like a lawnmower.
Personally, I still think that Trump himself is a genuine man who genuinely wants peace, but has surrounded himself with (((the best experts and advisors))) who would use any excuse to further Israel's interests first. In this case, it looks like another war for Israel is brewing. Like the alt-right, I am ashamed that the man we placed our trust in has fallen from grace, and may take the rest of the world with him.
Life
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Historeed
Member
Post Number: 128
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 08:28 am: |
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Michaelhelfert,
Why do you use (((echoes))) to reference Jewish people?
Matthew Reed
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 295
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 10:58 am: |
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President Trump is no different than any other president: hint,hint President Obama, Bush, Carter, etc. Pres Trump's intentions may be Genuine however, the people riding his coat tails, and working "behind the scenes", backstabbers, liars, etc. are ones causing the most Damage and Destruction. Therefore, without "complete cooperation" from Everyone, it's wishful thinking concerning "Peace". Let's not fall back into the whining and complaining about the Effects We will all face on one form or another. This is just the beginning.
MsMichelle
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Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 535
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 02:31 am: |
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I think Jew is the wrong word for the group trying to control Earth, we should use Hebraon
The Plejaren named them Hebraons or something like that, futureofmankind website is down so i cant verify.
If i remember correctly:Those who where banished and formed as one mixed people in the past, living outside the cities. My point is i think a % of Jews are not Hebraon. Its the wrong word to say Jews, they are the Hebraon who try and control Earth.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 606
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2017 - 12:39 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert,
Not saying that the U.S. is innocent; just looking for accuracy.
In this article:
“Someone once observed that the Germans during WWII “chose not to know.” We cannot allow history to say this about our country.”
Not really sure if the German people chose not to know? As well within the U.S., it’s not that the people are choosing not to know; it appears that the MSM (Main Stream Media) does not provide this information or manipulates the facts (by direction), otherwise the people would be repulsed and a rebellion could result.
In this article:
“Life is cheap for some, especially those who manipulate people on the battlefield as if it were a chessboard.”
“Life is cheap” has always been the case ever since the Lyrian genetically-manipulated arrived on Earth. Those in power on top of the food chain, so to speak, were the schemers and manipulators as far back as Atlantis and Mu. In more recent history, Spain; England/Britain; Germany and others were manipulating nations and peoples. Now it’s the United States; and in the near future, maybe China?
In this article:
“Effort was needed to arrive at the figures of 6six million Jews killed during WWI, but knowledge of that number now is widespread and it has fueled the determination to prevent future holocausts. That struggle continues.”
66 million Jewish deaths during WW-1; this cannot be accurate. Even 6 million appears to be speculation? Did not find specifics on this.
As an observation:
Bombing and killing innocent civilians by the thousands is fundamentally acceptable; on the flip side, if a ground troop soldier shoots an unarmed civilian, he will be court-martialed. Just saying.
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 366
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 03:24 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert, seems Trump is another puppet of the CIA just like Obama was.
And I think you may be right there about Zionist ruled Israel too. In the contact notes I recall the P's saying something like "the destruction of Israel will be for the betterment of mankind". Not sure if it was meant literally because that could only lead to WW4. |
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