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Historeed
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 07:30 am: | 
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Justsayno,
"whitegenocideproject.com" Are you serious???
Matthew Reed
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Historeed
Member
Post Number: 95
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 07:36 am: |
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To those concerned about "white genocide", please read what Billy has said in the Q&A section:
Truthseeker
[Posted November 2007]
Greetings Billy,
Just to comment, I have never seen an ugly women-scientists before.
I've noticed in your comment about the Philadelphia experiment around 2 years ago, you refer to a Kal Allen as been responsible for this hoax. Actually just as a correction from what I found his name was not Kal, but Carl Allen or Carlos Miguel Allende.
My next question is in regards to overpopulation. In Canada where I live people have been telling me that despite global overpopulation, the Caucasian white race is actually decreasing in it's population while Asians are vastly increasing and overtaking the Caucasian race in all countries world wide. If so, should the Caucasian race be concerned for it's decline in population?
Thanks.
James Truthseeker
Answer by Moderator:
James,
Recently I received some population statistics from one of the FIGU members and it showed the Hispanic/Latino races increasing in numbers greater than the Asian race. Yes you are correct the Caucasion race is decreasing.
Scott
Answer:
No, the „Caucasian white race" should not be concerned about its decline in population (which, if it were true, would be a very favourable trend), but instead should be very much worried about the fact that overpopulation on Earth is still increasing and is much higher than the population statistics claim. According to the Plejarens there it are more than 7.5 billion human beings living on our planet today.
There is no danger that the Caucasian race becomes extinct, but it cannot longer play a role of being the master race and suppress the people of other races, which is a positive thing after all.
Matthew Reed
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1266
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 08:30 am: |
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> I think what Meier said was that radical Islamists aren’t Muslims. They are just psychopathic killers who’ve hijacked Islam, etc. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 774
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 12:28 pm: |
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Hi Michael, and how does one tell the difference between moderate Muslims and Jihadists? Short of checking to see if they have bomb making equipment.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 775
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 12:16 pm: |
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Hello over reactors, did you even look at what the Muslim professor said? It's in brackets so you know it was Word for Word. He would know more than anyone what the real condition is. I've never been to that website before but since they quoted the professor Word for Word, I thought that's what was important. Apparently I was wrong. I see it's more important where the information was coming from then what was actually said.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 628
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 02:02 am: |
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"whitegenocideproject.com" Are you serious???
- Historeed, pn 94 and 95
The core ideas fueling the meme 'white genocide' have merits, those being that the pendulum of racial fairness has swung too far to the political Left, that there does exist a deference to people and causes for any race other than white in all lands occupied by whites, except perhaps Hungary. On this forum we have discussed how Angela Merkel dislikes Germans, and is trying to punish them by importing Muslims. In the US, many of us who voted for Obama quickly came to see that his presidency was (and continues to) race-baiting the black population for political reasons. The concept of 'white privilege' is yet another attempt to broadly initiate shame across the white population in what only builds racial tensions. As a pushback, the notion of 'white genocide' highlights how whites (by just such an imposed attitude of self-ridicule and scorn) are impeded in efforts to care for themselves as a race, because such a stance is anathema to the sense of fairness among those people who are stuck in the lifelong memetic miasma of 'white racism'.
Folks who see white genocide as a thing see the decline in populations of white people, and in particular the real and complete projected disappearance of certain white genotypes, as a loss of diversity. And this, to fill some hollow need to even the playing field among the races. Though you may be aware of it yet, there are many websites, and many folks considering this issue, and they are mostly NOT evil racist radicals. If you listened to their concerns, instead of dismissing them out of hand for noticing something you prefer to deny, you might learn that they attempt to approach the subject without falling into negative 'racism'. By ignoring their concerns and heaping scorn upon them, you only serve to drive them further to the right, into the ideology of violent radicalism. This is just the dynamic that is tearing at the heart of America right now, and which our Nation is unlikely to survive. Truth be told, those who are concerned about white genocide are not necessarily racists. Being racially aware does not imply evilness.
I would hope that on this forum we could promote peace by truly listening to all sides of the societal issues we face, rather than just casting aspersions of racism. Were the FIGU to tease out more balanced approaches to especially this topic than ignore-ance, blind denial, and ridicule, it might progress beyond its current degree of organization. Personally, I hope we do soon, because I want all of your efforts to organize a 'land-owning' group to succeed.
Life
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 258
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 11:33 am: |
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We love to create in our thoughts the so-called "Boogeyman" seeking to "wipe out" all of the Caucasian race....hahhaahaha....it's quite comical....because it's illogical, irrational, fear based, and most importantly religious delusion....
Shelia, my point, there's no doubt We have problems on this planet, however, as an officer, I've learned to remain calm and treat everyone respectfully regardless of the circumstances. "Muslims" are from all Walks of Life...none... to my knowledge have a "bulls eye" on their foreheads??? Breath people and regain control of your "foolish" ideals and thoughts about the "enemy".
MsMichelle
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Hugo
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Post Number: 341
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 10:28 pm: |
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MH, they have hijacked Islam and now millions of Muslims around the world support what they are doing. That is a lot of people to be weary of. Too many bad apples in that lot now. Don't risk it. Any Western nation allowing Muslims to immigrate is asking for a trojan horse.
Pew poll: Between 63 million and 287 million ISIS supporters in just 11 countries
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/pew_poll_between_63_million_and_287_million_isis_supporters_in_just_11_countries.html
Support for ISIS in the Muslim World – Perceptions vs Reality
http://metrocosm.com/support-isis-muslim-world-perceptions-vs-reality/ |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 776
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 05:15 pm: |
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I doubt that will happen Michael Helfert as they can't get past the headline to actually read what the Canadian Muslim professor said. So if people want to bury their heads in the sand after Billy's warnings that have the potential to put us back into the stone ages, I guess that's what it will be. At least I tried.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1269
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 08:23 am: |
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Hi Justsayno,
It's tricky, so a firm immigration/border policy is essential. Of course one can't always know what's in someone's heart. The additional danger from this is that scapegoating, racism, hatred of foreigners increases - as Meier foretold and warned it would.
In retrospect, it will probably be seen that multiculturalism was a huge contributing factor to the destruction of certain countries and the coming refugee problems, which will extend into the tens of millions, will further create chaos. Underlying all of this is overpopulation.
Here is a video body language analysis of the press conference between Trump and Trudeau (both of whose last names start off with the same three letters fwiw):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOvsfo0YRH4 |
Historeed
Member
Post Number: 96
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 05:45 am: |
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Michaelhelfert,
Here's the definition of "genocide":
"the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation."
Therefore it's totally nonsensical & counterproductive to use the term "genocide" when referring to the decline in "white" population. It shuts down the important conversation about race before it starts.
Matthew Reed
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Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 259
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 09:22 am: |
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On this forum, all subject matters must be addressed and brought to the table.
I think We all can handle any subject matter and We can Recover if "our feelings, perceptions, thoughts, etc" are "hurt or offended". These conversations will help all on this forum deal with the outside Communities and "open eyes" and expand Consciousness.
Growing up in a religious delusional environment, it's quite comical when I realize how Ridiculous my thoughts and ideas were before finding "The Spiritual Teaching".
In other words, do not get offended when We challenge "Your Irrational and Illogical Conversations".
We are the Future, whether We know it or not or attempt to resist.
MsMichelle
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Hawaiian
Member
Post Number: 255
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 12:27 pm: |
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Michael Horn is correct, in my opinion, Islam is a barbaric religion that not only oppresses women, but advocates the destruction of all other religions besides itself.
It is dictated by power lustful men and will never allow women to assist in evolving that religion for more reasonable applications, better Islam as well as all religions be eliminated from Earth and its leaders arrested for the good of humanity. |
Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 629
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 - 06:40 am: |
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Historeed, you make a good point. The popular use of the term 'genocide' is not sufficiently accurate to explain the process, but it is the word that's been tacked to this meme none-the-less, in part because it is specifically accurate, but perhaps more because it's a little shocking, and it can be so hard to get people to pay attention to this trend when they don't want to. I was simply explaining a perspective that's given little credence on this forum. If we are supposed to acknowledge factually-based societal perspectives, then consider how the white genocide meme is one based in facts, statistics, trends, etc.
Recently I've been studying the history of the American 'genocide' of Native Americans, and have come to the conclusion that it never happened. Instead, the population of hunter-gatherer Indians in North America was sparse, with a relatively ideal density of around 1 person per 10 sq. km. There is some speculation that this density had been reduced by about 50% in the 13th-14th century as seal-sourced tuberculosis swept across the continent, 100-150 years before the first arrival of Columbus, yet perhaps 150 years after the last Scandinavian-American colonies maintained constant contact with Iceland. In any case, the continent was very sparsely populated when the English arrived here, and the subsequent rate of the Indian population's slow decline over the next 300 years, ~0.22%/yr, can be more easily explained through integration/assimilation rather than deliberate murder or destruction of the Indians (which would have been much faster). This rate of natural assimilation also explains how so many European Americans whose family roots on this continent extend back to before the 1860's or so have a touch of Indian blood. To put it simply, instead of genocide, the deliberate destruction of a race, Europeans and (SOME...) Indian tribes simply intermarried. If one throws the probable mixed-Solutrean roots of especially the Eastern and Plains tribes into the mix, this makes even more sense. As the more modern, mostly European population grew dominant, conflicts between certain Indian tribes did arise, but on the North American continent, conflicts between tribes has ever been a part of life, so this was nothing new. In fact, even our much vaunted Constitution was modeled in part on the Iroquois Great Law of Peace. The point being that natural integration, not intentional genocide as we are so often taught, resulted in the decline of already sparse populations of North American Indians.
Stefan Molyneux, with whom I disagree on a number of points, is one person who has compiled a quick explanation of most of these facts his own inimitable style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNHKDJzgqJg
Looking back, one can find evidence of few individual stated intentions to wipe out the Indian genotype, however these were never community or State policy. (I was surprised to learn this myself, considering America's Indian wars. Instead, we mostly attempted to 'civilize' the Indians, to varying degrees of success.) Likewise, today, there is no official State policy to wipe out white people. But neither is there any attempt to preserve the delicately recessive white genotypes. In the case of white people, we can take it a step further by showing that, although there's no official State intention to breed to extinction the white population, there are many people, both individually and in groups, who are actively engaged in promoting just that. Pointing this out is part of the purpose of websites focussed on white genocide. Such intentions may not be 'genocidal', per the popular use of the term, but is 'genocide' per the United Nations definition.
http://www.un.org/en/preventgenocide/adviser/pdf/osapg_analysis_framework.pdf
Again, we can be blind to what we prefer to not see, this is part of the human experience. By maintaining as objective a perspective as possible, hopefully we can reduce the size of our blind spots, and see what's really going on.
Life
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 260
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 - 07:13 am: |
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Is it illogical to think of a genocide when you have almost nine billion people on a Planet barely able to sustain a billion people....... we are focused on the Material of the People on this planet....Meaning their outside appearances..ex skin color..religion... you cannot point the finger at this person or that person because when the storms and destructions strike... I can guarantee you no one will be spared...
BEAM has mentioned numerous times White people are the majority race and your brothers and sisters of Mexican descent are increasing substantially as well as all other races, therefore your argument of a genocide is nothing more than mangled,intellectual nonsense... imbalanced, unreasonable
MsMichelle
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2670
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 - 03:17 pm: |
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Can we please get back to the topic of Creational Laws and Recommendations. Danke |
Historeed
Member
Post Number: 97
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2017 - 04:50 am: |
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Michaelhelfert,
We probably should move this discussion to the "Overpopulation" section since it would be more appropriate.
Matthew Reed
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 206
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 06:03 am: |
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I would like to briefly discuss suicide with people here, if I may. In the Talmud of Jmmanuel it says:
The laws say that there is no event or situation that justifies suicide...
Regardless of how much guilt a human being may incur, and how heavy his load or burden may be, he nonetheless has no right to determine his own death.
I understand that with respect to the laws of Creation one must not kill in depravity, which includes not committing suicide, but how is one expected to bear one's suffering who is not strong in consciousness?
Yesterday I read an account about how 150 ISIS female sex-slaves committed suicide and their bodies then fed to dogs. How can they be expected to endure this kind of suffering; to endure being raped again and again, unable to fight back and to protect themselves, knowing that no one is going to help them? Suicide becomes the only way out. How can people who are dying of starvation be expected to endure such misery until the very end, when their bodies are no long able to sustain life?
I have no doubt there are cold answers for questions like this, but to quote Jmmanuel: "How willing is the spirit and how weak is the flesh when it is so fearful of pain!" We are, after all, only human. |
Joseph_emmanuel
Member
Post Number: 209
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 07:00 am: |
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In response to my own post, I found this in Goblet of the Truth:
...life is given for fulfilment so that it may be savoured in good time when existence is full of kindheartedness and joy, but that it shall also be endured in misery and poor times when existence is difficult to bear and full of pain and sorrow.
It still doesn't make it any easier to endure repeated terror or misery, but it's comforting from a certain perspective. I guess the real answer I'm looking for is: How does one live with it? How do you endure terror or misery without letting them overwhelm you consciously? |
Tyler
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 07:10 am: |
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A bit cold, maybe..
But.. well, there was one girl whose story I read. She really escaped from her tormentors, and she revealed how every time she got raped and damaged, it was new encouragement for her to get out and she finally did.
I think that is a good example of how the spirit gives real power to us, when we rely on it. And we do have the knowledge of how to speak to our spirit; through the prayer to our spirit, and Nokodemion's prayer will wake up that capability.
I talk here and read the truth knowledge, but she is actually a lot wiser than me now.
But, Joseph, can I ask why you are asking so many questions like that, which are sort of.. depressing?
In this case, I can think of an answer, but I just feel more scared now to actually live by the power of my spirit... It's not good to reflect too much on the pain we might have to endure since it disempowers us.
Go for a walk today ok? It's really worth it.
To me, in between the lines of Jmmanuel's saying, it could be understood, "Always trust in your spirit and don't give your body too much reason to shrink back from life in cowardice." |
Tyler
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 07:13 am: |
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Just don't think on it too much man.. <:-)...
You may not think it by looking at yourself sometimes, but you have that deep inner strength that comes out in times when it's needed. In challenges, that's when we surprise ourselves with our inner strength.
Go for a walk ok and try to forget about your question ok? Your ruminating, it looks like strongly to me. |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 211
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 03:01 pm: |
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I would like to apologize to people here for focusing too heavily on negative events. I'm not a scaremonger and didn't mean to act as one. I'm not sure what I hoped to achieve by asking so many pessimistic questions; maybe some clarity regarding the future; maybe some hope.
If reading my posts have upset or worried some of you, again I apologize. I know some people can be really toxic to be around. That's not how I want to be. I don't think I am anyway, although I accept I can be somewhat intense, but as you've no doubt gathered I tend to focus strongly on things, especially the negative, which isn't good.
Tyler, thank you for your time and understanding. I'm aware of Nokodemion's prayer. I'm currently trying to memorize the 7th version; learn it by heart so that it becomes instilled in my consciousness.
I'm also aware of my inner strength; that is, I'm aware it exists within me. I experienced it for a time and then seemed to have lost connection with it. One day I found I wasn't able to reach inside myself like I used to. That was back in 2001. I've since been struggling with myself and have lost my way, but at the same time I have been able to map my journey. And yet I've still to understand what any of it means.
I'm not as strong in consciousness as I would like to be. I hate myself for that. Going for a simple walk in a park is actually quite daunting for me because I end up feeling isolated from the world as though submerged under water and all I can sense is myself, separate from everything else. So I tend to avoid it. But I still go on. I still try. In my own way. |
Tyler
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 03-2017
| | Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 07:26 pm: |
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I get scared that I planted fear in others too. My fear actually passed a little while after you wrote that, so I really just guess we've both been too cautious- like, over-cautious. I worked through it, and actually, I only can think of a couple of people who stand out to me as actual chickens.. they don't participate in these forums, though.
Hey, what work do you have planned for this year? Do you have anything found yet? Me I'm working on my health, and am waiting on a gardening job to start in the spring. I have hardly been studying this winter since I follow Billy's recommendation about the ratio of work and study time, but a really nice thing to me is to bring 'Der rosarote Kristall" with me to work and read a little during my break. Those moments of peace and a bit of beauty are a real blessing instead of all the doom and gloom.
It's too bad you couldn't come work with me at the garden sometime. |
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