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Takeshi
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - 03:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"1995 CE All personnel of the Plejaren Federation depart Earth, all bases of operations are returned to a natural state. Only monitoring devices remain of which telemeter discs are among these."

I do not understand. They left us??

Somebody please explain. There must be a rational explanation.
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Votan
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Takeshi

They know something that we all fear. World wide catastrophe and Wars coming up.
When this happens they would be discovered.
joe
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Takeshi
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ptaah: No, everything remains the same way as it has been until now. There will be no changes in this regard. Everything will continue the way it always did.

Billy: That's good, so we are not truly alone.



This must be my answer. Quite relieving. We are to battle on then.
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Redbeard
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Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't worry they're still watching, we're the most interesting and entertaining show in this galaxy that they have to watch. What else do gods do to pass the time but to see what the earth degenerated humans are up to next !!!
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Schantz
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Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2017 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Redbeard,

Great post, but I would substitute galaxy with universe, and substitute interesting and entertaining with shock and disgust.

Norm,

You posted quite a while ago that you would rather live in a more polluted environment with Trump versus a nuclear fallout world with the Russians if he weren't elected. I've thought about your reasoning many times over the past few years and it's long overdue that I say that was a great post as well.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2017 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Takeshi,

You said. "1995 CE All personnel of the Plejaren Federation depart Earth, ... I do not understand... They left us? ... please explain."

From Contact Report 251:

"Billy:
Of course, you had to do that, that's clear. A long time ago Sfath already told me, along with Asket, Semjase and Quetzal, that you people would have to do this once the year 1995 had begun. You, too, told me the same, and I had to promise all of you to keep silent until the time when you would all withdraw from Earth for good. I am familiar with the reason for your withdrawal, but I don't know whether I am allowed to speak of it officially because you told me that it would have to remain a secret for the time being, at least until 1995 when you are all leaving the Earth.

Ptaah:
You must continue to keep this secret; do not speak about it under any circumstances. We are only permitted to elaborate to the point as our withdrawal from Earth is linked with the immediate future and related events, in which we are not allowed to interfere in any form so that we may protect and keep close reigns on the secret regarding our own culture and region where we live. This is tied in also with the fact that some matters are impending. On one hand, we were able to foresee them but, on the other hand, they are the reason for our withdrawal, while events that have been unfolding on Earth for several decades now were part of our assignments. We have fulfilled this task, along with the many others we were obligated to look after, and you have played a very important role in this scenario of making public, worldwide, the so-called UFO phenomenon, as terrestrials have labeled it. You alone made it possible to promulgate this subject matter worldwide and provoke the controversy to the extent that it is not only religious and pseudo-esoteric sectarians, fanatics, gullible individuals, madmen, etc., who preoccupy themselves with the subject. Finally, for some time now, a great variety of scientists, governmental agencies, military services and governments have also begun to seriously preoccupy themselves with this subject, a fact that could not have been accomplished without your help and great resulting effort. Actually, alone through your efforts was this successful launching of the worldwide UFO controversy possible, for which we all express our appreciation to you - a recognition you had to really struggle for, when I think of all the harm that came crashing down upon you. And it is irrelevant whether they were health related or associated with the defamations, abusive language, assassination attempts, diatribes of hatred and other things to which we, unfortunately, had to contribute our share, as you know. Had it not been for these occurrences, the UFO controversy would never have come about and scientists, as well as the military and governments, among others, would not have become seriously interested in it. In your defense I am permitted today to speak officially about these matters and the fact that we used special techniques to analyze and evaluate in great detail the movie and photo montages, along with the movie trick photography used by all those bogus and deceitful, purported contactees or UFO observers. We found that their falsified movie and photo material appealed to terrestrial humans, particularly to those so-called UFO experts who call themselves ufologists and the like, and this even includes some well-respected scientists. The absurdity of the falsifications, and the people who believed them, is stunning yet extremely effective. For this reason, we executed maneuvers with our genuinely existing flying objects, e.g., jerky pendulum movements and certain skipping and floating movements, which ordinarily are not a part of our flying objects' normal movements and flight techniques. Instead, they appeared like those ridiculous, abrupt pendulum and strange swaying movements of the manipulated movies and photos by the UFO swindlers, liars and charlatans. The fact that we chose to execute these movement types is based on the reasoning that they, in particular, would result in the worldwide, fierce UFO controversy which resulted in many hardships for you, of course. You were accused of fraud, deceit, charlatanry and, indeed, dishonesty. You were further charged with constructing models and then photographing and filming them. Often we felt very sorry for you, but were unable to change any of this. Only by executing certain flight maneuvers, which you then were able to film, photograph and disseminate throughout the globe, was the worldwide UFO controversy ensured that led to the previously mentioned outcome. In the future, they will also bring about additional and by now urgently needed results..."

http://www.theyfly.com/articles/Contact_251.htm

Kenneth
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Takeshi
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2017 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kenneth. I eventually stumbled upon that Report, which was of great help. Although it mentions little details as to their reasons, it still offered some interesting details further into it. Yet still, we're not alone. All I need to know. :-)

I personally believe Catastrophes and Wars are not to be feared, only endured. And Life seems more like a battle than a TV show to me. I'm honoured that we have Friends in it, but I'm not sure about referring to them as "Gods" per say. "Brothers in Arms" in a way, maybe.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, June 23, 2017 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Takeshi,

This is good, pleased that you found what you were looking for. Only Billy knows the complete details of why the Plejaren left Earth.

There is also another section that addresses a situation where the Plejaren and the Federation confronted a flotilla of extraterrestrial spaceships heading to Earth for colonization due to their planets demise. The Plejaren and the Federation stopped their advance; then helped them find a suitable uninhabited planet elsewhere, far from Earth. Apparently this happened in the recent past?

FYI, we Earthlings should never consider the Plejaren God's, from our frame of reference. Friends would be a more appropriate expression.

Kenneth
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Norm
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Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz, Thanks
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Stardustwilly
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Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2017 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just curious, about the flotilla of spaceships headed for Earth, how did they intend to over take this planet for their own? With lasers, right?
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Kenneth
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Posted on Monday, June 26, 2017 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stardustwilly,

You said, "...how did they intend to over take this planet for their own..."

Don't know this answer; nonetheless, they were more than likely human; theoretically they could just blend into the current civilizations without revealing their true identities or where they came from, it does not have to be a hostile occupation or invasion? This would be very similar to what the "Yellow Race" had done in the distant past. Some of the main issues would maybe be their advanced technology and this would also add to the Earths already overpopulated situation?

First impressions are that the Plejaren and the Federation were protecting Earthlings, in a way that’s true; and it could be just the opposite? Obviously these cosmonauts are much more advanced than the Earthlings. Could the Plejaren have been protecting these planet-less humankind from Earthlings war like aggression and religious craziness as well as protecting Earthlings from advanced technology too early in Earthlings development? This would obviously have interfered with the Plejaren’s mission here on Earth.

Kenneth
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Daniel_7
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2017 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am probably wrong, may be bitten as a result of the voluminous information available. I have not heard Michael Horn or the other notable speakers on behalf of FIGU, ever discuss how the Plejaren may experience an undulation of feelings when they visit Earth, among them fear, anxiety and more specifically an apprehension. I could say more such as this indicates a level of learning, I will however leave this idea here. Thank you.
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2017 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel_7,

I don't remember where in the notes I read it but a Plejaren had to receive psychological counseling after witnessing some horrible thing(s) he/she witnessed here.
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Daniel_7
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2017 - 05:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah yes, thank you Hugo, I also read that somewhere and now recall. This example would affirm that principle. I also recall now that a variety of other emotions have in the past come into it, a special composition of emotions expressed after a Plejaren student has been educated about the tough injustice of history of the Earth folk and then witnesses their honest kind behaviours, so polarity opposite again to those feelings, interesting. Again, all this is probably written differently in the Contact Reports themselves, under a different bracket of topic.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2017 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that was Florena, who had observed the atrocities committed against a young Kuwaiti girl by Iraqis, etc., during the Gulf War.
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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2017 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quetzal in contact 150 talked about the girl who was raped and brutalized. I think it was Enjana who had to be sent back to Erra for some form of therapy due to the atrocities she witnessed during one of the Gulf Wars. I think this was mentioned by Christian during his 2006 visit to Laughlin Nevada.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, April 16, 2018 - 04:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Predictive impulse programming plejaren style.

There are many instances whereby the impulses by plejaren sent to various people on earth can be so obviously apprent as the two noses seen when you look down.
An episode on simpsons predicted Trump becoming president and even has a scene where Trump, saudi prince and some other leader touching a crystal ball and this event having come true to the dot.
As the plejaren and billy spoke about they the plejaren were responsible for creating the internet via their impulses sent to various technologists and scientists.
Now what preceded the internet the computers of course and the invention of the transistors preceding it also.
So we have severely underestimated the plejaren's contribution to us earthings because everything had happened behind the scenes but it wouldn't even be remotely a stretch to state that every major invention and discovery that shaped our modern life was basically the result of the plejaren and federation help and contribution.
As semjase had said impulse created the world
Like a jolt of mini poke to the solar plex these impulses do such great wonders yet its amazing that this poke of electrifying inspiration has basically shaped the world.
Were we remote controlled to freewilled action?
Maybe yet all it took was a lightening jolt of inspiratiin and urge to motivate people to create such wonderous things as planes, cars, trains, boats, subs, etc
What else do you reckon the impulse sent by the plejaren create here on earth his name is Hubble.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2018 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ptaah is metaphorically speaking Qanon.
He is as wise as they come.
He has seen the future.
He gave crumbs which would only be much significant in the future which is the now.
As Qanon stated future proves past and rightly ptaah's words have I suspect proved to be true albeit in a subtle wise.
Ptaah described NK's nuclear test as being nothing more than conventional TNT
This was some years back.
So what is the significance you ask?
Well I won't get into politics but this revelation is significant for world peace so matter of factly speaking there is not a word by anyone in any mainstream report out there except in deep military and intelligence circles that Trump has basically called Kim's bluff and now we have reconciliatory gesture from NK with the recent meeting of South and North at the demilitarised zone.
It was all theatre all along and the now we have the movie sixth sense moment where NK all this time had no nuclear weapons.
The world was fooled and kim's bluff was called and there lies the plejaren ptaah's wisdom
Future proves past and in this case plejaren proved future from the past.

Its all speculation on my part of course but .....


Matt lee
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Hugo
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found it interesting that birthdays are moments to celebrate for the Plejaren like they did for Billy's 80th as well as visiting him on most of his birthdays. For me personally I never see/saw my birthdays like that. When they come I just see them as a number and nothing to celebrate. My family and friends care more about my birthdays then I do.
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Scott
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2018 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,
I think the Plejarens were also showing their respect and gratitude to Billy for his unending work for the Mission as well as it just being a birthday celebration.
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2018 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott, why do the Plejaren need/want to show up at Billy's birthdays to show respect and gratitude for his work if birthdays mean little to them then?
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Votan
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2018 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo

You should ask them.
joe
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Chinalien
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Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2019 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My questions for any members of FIGU Swiss. If Billy can answer them I will be feeling be honoured.
how OR when did Chinese invent their own language (the characters)?
What did they observed Chinese society? Does Plejaren hold their opinions about the development of Chinese society OR any predictions in their future?

Hello Chinalien, I moved your post to a more appropriate topic heading. Billy doesn't read this forum, but perhaps someone may know the answer to your question. Welcome to the forum. Scott-Moderator

(Message edited by scott on December 15, 2019)

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