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Justinelombard
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 06-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 - 05:01 am: | 
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Hi Tat_tvam_asi
As you seem to be pretty clued up on ancient earth history I thought I'd ask you this question and would love to hear comments from others too..
Has Billy ever spoken about the stone circles of Southern Africa?
To my knowledge what Billy has said is that there are some parts of our earth history that must remain undisclosed for our own benefit and I was wondering if the stone circles form part of that?
Lots of research can be found on the stone circles of Sothern Africa by just using an internet search engine so I won't post any links, however something that I thought of, because of their relation to the Giza pyramids and their weird energetic qualities I was wondering if the stone circles had anything to do with providing an energy source for the Bafath who were residing under the pyramids since ancient times and were removed by the Plajeran in the seventies. Thanks in advance for any replies.. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 648
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 - 11:31 pm: |
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Hi Justine,
Interesting suggestion.
The stone circles in Africa are really very ancient and unexplained.
My guess would be that they may have been town dwellings acting like several layers of shields, protecting ancient Africans from the many wild African animals.
But, no, I do not know about any Plejaren/Billy references relating to them.
I would be interested to know where you found Billy’s statement re. “ancient Earth history that must remain undisclosed”, it may point to the answer you are looking for…
If there is such a statement, I would interpret it perhaps in connection with background information to Plejaren activities on our planet. E.g. we know very little about the thought differences and political reasons that led to the civil wars of Pelegon’s and Atlan’s races *).
Edgar Cayce gives much more details (but we have to read them with a somewhat critical mind)
The Plejaren seem to have a very good grasp of what is valuable for Earth humanity to discuss:
E.g. I would not be surprised if Figu’s decision not to publish any political posts anymore was indirectly based on their insight of what is unfolding in our world today and their intent to protect Figu members…
Salome,
Bill
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It may well be that in today’s world a similar scenario unfolds that led to the Plejaren civil wars:
As we mentioned many times - all existence is a repeat of past historical scenarios in which man made wrong decisions.
E.g. does not our nuclear stock piles awaken the memory of the destruction of Mu..?
These repeat scenarios “form” in our present to give mankind a chance to “re-think” and overcome the mistakes we made in the past
Clearly, if Earth humans come to the right insights by their own thinking ^) their evolution has a much firmer basis.
This is why, I think, the Plejaren are reluctant to reveal “some parts of ancient history”.
^)
Man should live with a constant awareness of the creative power of thoughts.
Anyone praying Billy's "Mein Geist ..." prayers knows that the Spirit Teachings place a high importance on being aware of the motivations underlying our thoughts:
We (and our environments) essentially are thought manifestations, i.e. the manifestations of energy waves, created by our thoughts.
So man does not live to amass material possessions but to bring his thinking more and more into a vibrational harmony with the swinging wave of Creation.
It is the key that unlocks his evolution.
(Message edited by indi on July 11, 2017) |
Learnmore12
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Post Number: 99
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2017 - 07:06 am: |
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Bill, man can only come to their right senses if they study the spiritual teachings and live according to it. Otherwise, this world will continue to degenerate. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 727
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2017 - 08:48 am: |
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Tat_tvam_asi (Bill),
Regarding the stone circles; you said; “…would be that they may have been town dwellings acting like several layers of shields, protecting ancient Africans from the many wild African animals.”
I came to the same conclusion; doors or window openings would also let in those not wanted. Wooden or rope type ladders that were retracted or pulled into the protected compound when not in use would appear to be the logical conclusion, which have long ago decomposed or disintegrated.
Not aware of any of the African locals that currently use such building techniques. This building method may have also been before the Earth Axis shift over 11,500 years ago, ref. Atlantis destruction with an asteroid. This Earth axis shift may also lead to some different animals in Africa which did not require stone walls for protection?
The interior stone walls appear to be constructed in such a way that wooden logs (beams) and other natural vegetation could be used for shade and protection from the elements.
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1775
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 12:56 pm: |
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Hi everyone
Speaking of stone circles other stone artifacts comes to mind.
Interesting theory Bill/tat.
There are numerous stone items unearthed by people today which resemble UFO, giants and ancient technological devices which is baffling.
Billy and Plejaren's words about the great cataclysmic war between Atlantis and Mu comes to mind.
It is my speculation that since the war raged on for a long time between these groups incited by the Giza intelligences evidence left behind by that war would still be around today as they must have had high technology as described in Mahābhārata epic about Kurukṣetra War where lightening like thunder brought down flying objects, it isn't far fetched to assume that their weapons could've turned or transmuted various objects into stones including people and giants of that time.
The myth about Medusa turning people to stone may have had its origin from real events witnessed by people of that era with their account passed down orally throughout many generations with some semblance of truth retained much like it was the case with Noah/Noankadnosser.
So basically the petrified stone artifacts unearthed by people these days may have its origin not millions of years ago but from 13,500 years ago from that epic war between Mu and Atlantis where so many strange and anomalous objects are being discovered left right and centre under the sea and on land.
As Antarctica ice sheets melt away can you imagine what amazing things are buried under there that will point clearly to the year 11,500 bc give or take which will further corroborate all that Billy and the Plejaren had said so far culminating towards the year 2029 when most will come to realisation that Billy was telling the truth all along.
Some are even saying that giant statues in Egypt and elsewhere were once real flesh and blood human beings who were turned to stone by some unknown forces.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1776
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 - 06:08 am: |
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Thinking about Billy's past incarnations and the enormous contributions made by his respective personalities I cannot help but draw another bow and speculate that one of his past incarnation had been an Egyptian pharaoh responsible for rebuilding the great pyramids
Its remarkable how time and time again Billy's past incarnations were men and women of renown who influenced the course of history like no other mortals had ever done before and its safe to assume that this fact won't change with his future incarnations
Its possible that there may have been failures along the way with some of Billy's past personalities or rather his spirit's past personalities, where due to Giza Intels enormous intrigues and power, he/she wasn't able to prevent the destructive war between Atlantis and Mu
Judging by Giza Intels many moon bases and structures being discovered in recent times they must've sought refuge there after the great cataclysmic war.
The so called the hall of records Cayce mentioned may infact contain written scripts, tablets, hieroglyphs and cuneiform containing information about Billy just as there may be materials in the Vatican library mentioning him also.
Maybe the secret of the true origin and history of human beings will finally be revealed once the manmade trip to Mars become a reality whereby the knowledge stored by Martians in their subterranean stations will be unlocked and with it many other useful technical knowledge.
If the Bermuda triangle's portal to another different dimension could only have worked in a triangular configuration then it won't be a long stretch to reason that since the Pyramids are technically or structurally in a triangular form then one wonders whether the ET builders from orion were actually intending to create a portal to their Orion home dimension through the construction of the pyramids. |
Jgarbush
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 09-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 - 10:55 am: |
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> Where can I get an English translation of earths history? |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1777
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2017 - 01:45 am: |
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Hi jgarbush try contact report 251 at the futureofmankind wiki site. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1778
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2017 - 12:52 am: |
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I don't why but it appears to me that something is not right about Australia.
Don't read between the lines just yet.
When you look at the whole continent Oceania the dry and barren landscape I mean you realise as other people have also spoke about that this country is so flat so desolate and so deserted.
Why?
Why is it so different to Saudi Arabia, China, USA and so many of the other countries around the world.
The only inevitable conclusion I can draw with the help of Billy and the Plejaren's information is that Australia wasn't above sea surface for very long and that from the huge devastation wrought by the suicidal impact of Muan's asteroid in the Atlantic Ocean on top of Atlantis the Australian country surfaced from under the sea as the opposite reaction to Atlantis sinking.
Just by looking at Ayers Rock and how impossible a meteor or Asteroid of Uluru can just wedge in there out in the middle of nowhere in the Northern Territory leads me to the conclusion that that piece of giant rock from one of the Muan's direct Asteroid broke apart on entry to earth's atmosphere into smaller chunks veered off course and impacting where it is today whilst Australia was still under the sea.
How else could you explain the discrepancy to other Asteroid impact in Chile for example without the buffer of sea water where it leave a giant hole like you see on the moon.
It is impossible for a big chunk of rock the size of Ayers Rock being intact upon collision with the ground without leaving a ginormous hole and it being decimated into a thousand pieces upon entry.
The this leave one other question and that is if Ayers Rock is just a fragment of a piece of huge Asteroid or Meteor then where else could you find some other piece pointing to the fact that there is another piece formerly attached to Ayers Rock well I did a jigsaw puzzle match of Mount Conner north east of it and funny enough Ayers Rock and Mt conner fit quite nicely.
People will be asking then what of the 50,000 year history of the indigenous aborigines of Australia well that is from the mainstream science which has determined that figure but like all figure it could definitely be wrong it may be a fact that they migrated from Africa 13,500 years ago give or take a thousand after the war between Atlantis and Mu seeking refuge and more hospitable place to live down south away from the devastated region of earth which must have lasted for millenia where virtually everything must've died during the worldwide ice age as a result of the Muan Asteroid on Atlantis. |
Votan
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Post Number: 836
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2017 - 01:28 pm: |
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Newinitiation
Mt Conner is a different structure to Ayers Rock.
I know the owners of Mt Conner. I forget the difference but they are not the same.
The story of Ayers Rock a sacred site is a fabrication as no aborigines ever lived there due to lack of water.
joe
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 756
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2017 - 03:18 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
Regarding Australia, Ayers Rock and Mt. Conner; you may be onto something? Ayers Rock especially does not match any of the surrounding landscape. In fact, the geological sedimentation layers are in a vertical position not horizontal like they should be; no evidence of the rock being pushed up from below? If your theory is in fact accurate; that would most likely mean that Ayers Rock could be a piece of Phaeton, aka Malona?
As noted, Australia is almost exactly 180 degrees on the other side of the Earth from Azores, or the remints of Atlantis.
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1779
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2017 - 01:43 am: |
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An alternative theory as to how you can justify 50,000 years of settlement of the indigenous Australians contradicting the timeframe of the Atlantian and Muan war of the worlds could be that not all the landmass of Australia was above sea level back before the war and that because of the war what was once a chain of island like the archipelago was converted to a larger landmass after the sinking of the Atlantis.
If people visit Mrs Macquarie's chair in Sydney just next to the royal botanic gardens you can see eroded sandstones at least 5 to 6 metres from the ground level now this clearly indicates that the sea level was much higher than what it used to be meaning that middle part of Australia or even further stretching from WA, NT, SA to some parts of NSW and Victoria may have been under the oceans and that the dry lakebeds you see out there are remnants of what was once the part of the oceans that dried up over time as a result of all parts of Australia lifting many meters above sea level as a result of the cataclysm of the Atlantian war.
I've driven through the Stuart highway from Darwin to Melbourne and Visa versa on a number of occasions and truly the Australian outback is as flat as a flaptop haircut and you just can't see anything over the horizon except road after flat and straight road and the only conclusion you can draw from it is that it was a seabed not so long ago.
One other factor that perplexes me above all else is why on earth hasn't Australia have any giant pyramids like they do in China Bosnia South America Antarctica Egypt India and so on.
Could it be that the ET Gertrude settled for less in the form of the devil's marble for the inhabitants of OZ to ponder about as we weren't deserving or worthy of any better or could it be that at the time the sea got in the way of their plan meaning that since Florida was the North pole Australia must have been damn close to being in the region of the south pole covered in ice therefore all of the great pyramids were concentrated around the equatorial region at the time following a strict meridian line that never crossed Australia
Whatever the case maybe its rich in minerals and red oxide probably due to the Atlantian war that brought all the riches of the earth underground to above ground |
Hugo
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Post Number: 452
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2017 - 07:26 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I can see why you theorize that but if Australia was under water around 10,000 years ago and only rose from the sea after the asteroid hit Atlantis then all the fresh water collected in Australia's Great Artesian Basin would be salt water. But that water was proven to have been collected over millions and millions of years. Also, the Plejaren said Australia is the most stable land mass on Earth which suggests it is ancient and has been free from subductions from tectonic plates for very long time.
Wikipedia
The Great Artesian Basin
The Great Artesian Basin (GAB[1]), located in Australia, is the largest and deepest artesian basin in the world, stretching over 1,700,000 square kilometres (660,000 sq mi), with measured temperatures ranging from 30–100 °C (86–212 °F). The basin provides the only source of fresh water through much of inland Australia.
The water of the GAB is held in a sandstone layer laid down by continental erosion of higher ground during the Triassic, Jurassic, and early Cretaceous periods. During a time when much of what is now inland Australia was below sea level, the sandstone was then covered by a layer of marine sedimentary rock shortly afterward, which formed a confining layer, thus trapping water in the sandstone aquifer. The eastern edge of the basin was uplifted when the Great Dividing Range formed.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1781
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 03:24 am: |
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Hugo I think you have inadvertently made my case a lot stronger.
First of all lets factor in numerous variables and try to come up with a plausible hypothesis.
You remember the contact reports about e IParth's history and the numerous early settlers not to mention Pleja's exploration to earth and many others on and off throughout the millenias ?
Also factor in the destroyer comet and its role on earth throughout the ages.
Not to mention wars, conquests and annihilation of earth by Giza Intel's activities starting with Arus the first.
Factor in the CME from our sun cycle including the 80 year cycle.
Also factor in asteroid, comet and meteor impact on earth.
Now factor in the total annihilation of Malona and how much of a devastation it would've caused earth.
Next its Mars's turn and how its destruction may have impacted earth's climate.
Factor in also ancient nuclear wars by Vishnu and other false Gods sodom and gomora style.
Add in massive volcanic eruptions and earth's natural climatic processes into the mix.
Now how about cosmic influences in the form of gamma ray bursts and gravitational effect of the black hole in the center of our galaxy.
Another influence worth mentioning is our binary twin star 1 light year away that may have devastating impact on earth's climate every 80 year cycle when its at its most closesy proximity to our solar system and round and round in circle cycle it goes.
Obviously last but not least the epic Atlantian war of the world.
So the point that I am trying to make is that with all these intra and extra influences on earth, the poles must have shifted so many times like a bee on flower that Australia or part thereof may have been under the sea at one point, flash frozen like a mammoth the next and stinking cooked like saudi arabia the next with all these geological positional variations throughout the millenias.
See how concentrated the Artesian basin is to the eastern states.
Remember when Billy and Ptaah spoke about earth having tremendous amounts of water under the techtonic plates well this goes to show that the explanation given in the quote you provided about the Artesian may not be correct and that it is sourced from somewhete much deeper from the interior of earth OR that because Australia was once the Antarctica the artesian reservoir was remnant of melted ice water.
As I was driving through South Australia I saw the salty lake Gairdner.
Its all salt the most concentrated there is and a commercial for holden ute was filmed around there.
So it just goes to show you why all that salt ended up there.
It was once part of the ocean that is now dried up.
I reckon the Muan space rock must have also displaced earth orbit around the sun by a few degrees
To me at least it makes logical sense |
Scott
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Post Number: 2736
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2017 - 07:33 am: |
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Dear Members,
There are a few posts within the queue regarding this topic. Those posts while informative, do not make mention whether the information was extracted from the contact notes and or other FIGU documents. If they were, please cite the contact or FIGU source material. This topic relates to info provided by the Plejarens concerning Ancient Earth History. Tat_tvam_asi I appreciate the effort you put into writing your long post, but the moderators unfortunately do not split posts as you mentioned. 
Thank you |
Tony_q
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 14, 2017 - 02:57 am: |
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Hi all, has anyone any information on the Nazca mummies?
They appear to be real biological entities, the research shows multiple bodies with non human characteristics. I can't find any info from figu or billy on them.
Salome
Tony |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 758
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, September 15, 2017 - 11:11 am: |
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Tony_q,
If in fact, this is an extraterrestrial mummy with three fingers, it does not mean that it was not human. Most of Earth’s scientists are consciously or unconsciously embracing blinders and cannot comprehend other human races living on Earth before our current documented civilizations; which appears to be beyond their reasoning.
Reason:
“The human ability to recognize all things and all events in their common connection with Creation and its Laws and Commandments (Logic) Reasoning, insight, conscious capability of the human to comprehend all things and events in their holistic connection.”
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_-_related_terms
Note on the term blinders:
Blinders are firm leather squares used on horses to prevent them see properly or becoming distracted.
Extraterrestrials humans have been coming to Earth for over 22,000,000 million years.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline
Quetzal:
106. Known to us, in this galaxy, are only 2,630,000 highly developed human civilizations, which actually belong together, whereby, from other galaxies known to us, a further 1,141,000,000 can be factored in.
107. We know of 1,040,000 civilizations which are developed to an essentially low level in this galaxy which you call the Milky Way.
108. Our scientists estimate that in the entire universe about 6,000,000,000,000 to 7,000,000,000,000 essentially human civilizations, of higher and lower form, would have to exist in your material space-time configuration.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Humanoid_lifeforms_in_the_known_universe
To my knowledge, Billy has never mentioned non humans visiting Earth. A possible exception; spiritform’s that have evolved beyond the need for a physical body who are pure spirit energy beings; not sure is they are still considered human?
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1782
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 15, 2017 - 11:52 pm: |
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Something has got me thinking about rings.
No not the Hungry Jacks/burger king variety or the horror movie nor the lord of the.......
Rings around pluto, neptune, jupiter and saturn
Obviously based on Billy's conversations with the plejaren Malona was destroyed by its inhabitants when they directed huge quantities of the ocean water into the magma chamber of a vocano.
Now obviously fragments of the exploded Malona/phaeton ended up in these respective planets orbit as moons, planetoids and satellites mentioned above sucked up by its gravitational forces.
I am asking myself then why aren't there rings around earth, venus, mars, mercury and vulcan.
The only inevitable conclusion I can come up with is that the location of the explosion of malona happened to face the sun meaning that it happened during the day and that as a result of the malona's position at the time in our solar system not only did it displace Mars which in all likelihood was very close to it and that the trajectory of the explosion was towards the outta direction of our solar system.
According to the Billy Meier material comets, astetoids and meteors come from the kuiper belt and the asteroid belt due to the gravitational forces that attracts them to our inner solar system.
So if space debris comes in to our solar system from the outta reaches of it this lends credence to the fact that malona was exploded outwardly into the outta reaches of our solar system hence the reason why non of the debris from it ended up in the orbits of the inner planets of the solar system.
Another thing the nature of kuiper belt and the asteroid belt could not all have formed from malona debris which leads me to believe that malona wasn't the only planet in our solar system that exploded but more.
In the contact report prehistoric earth had 2 moons and our current moon is not one of them so where the hell did it disappear to?
Well it could be in the orbit of jupiter put there as a result of the rogue castaway lunatic by the name of the destroyer planet which displaced it from earth's orbit and gave it to Jupiter as a present.
Whatever the facts may be there seems to be mass migration happening at a solar level no puns |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1783
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2017 - 08:12 am: |
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According to the Billy Meier materials there are Giza Intelligence's station on our moon.
Fact is that our moon was dragged to where it is today by the destroyer from far far away.
Then this leads me to believe that not everything that is ET was constructed by the GIs on the moon but that our moon was once the moon of another earth like planet with intelligent humanoid beings from another solar system in another dimension who've built these mega structures long time ago.
According to Billy our attempt for manned mars mission will succeed eventually and that what we will find there will drive us to explore space like never before but we will also acquire answers to so many unanswered question about many secrets yet to be unlocked.
I think that what we will discover on the moon at the mainstream level and accepted as fact will be the driving force to getting to Mars.
There we will find the truth of our long lost ancient history and so many artifacts and information about what is contained in the contact report 251.
I don't believe for a moment that every manmade achievement has been destroyed by the Sirian forces on Mars and that the contact conversation between Billy and Ptaah is not translated correctly which ultimately needs to be revised because right as we speak people are discovering manmade artificial anomalous objects from the mars rover photos that are irrefutable.
How so unless they were not destroyed by the Sirian forces. |
Carolyn
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 05-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2017 - 12:45 pm: |
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I have a very foggy memory of watching Malona come apart from a distance. It is simply horrible, watching a planet explode. . . . . It doesn't seem that long ago to me either, certainly not 79,000 years.
A time for every purpose under heaven
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1329
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2017 - 09:26 am: |
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Carolyn,
I know exactly what you mean. I was doing my lounge act on an intergalactic cruiser for some tourists from Arcturus, when we looked out the window as the thing was exploding. All I could say was, "Just what are those crazy kids on Malona up to now!?!?!?!?"
As I recall, if I'm not mistaken, you were hitting the multi-replicator that night, making Martian-tinis for everyone, and waxing sentimental about "good ol' days and endless nights on a pleasant little planet in Alpha Centauri". |
Carolyn
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 05-2017
| | Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2017 - 12:53 pm: |
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Well Michael, actually I think I know you as a medical doctor/specialist somewhere. . . . that is the impression I had when I met you. You're definitely involved in all this, and your energy is exceptionally good, compared to most other people! Now don't let it go to your head or anything. . . . but you are definitely exceptional.
A time for every purpose under heaven
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Stardustwilly
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2017 - 06:31 pm: |
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I wish we could get all the correct information put down to at least one reliable publication in English for now, since it will be years before I learn German, even then with that also. All this ancient Earth history has been so vague, I don't see why more descriptive books with illistrations, or even photos, I can see why they don't won't to print photos of themselves, or of the future, but what would be wrong with going into the past and taking photos of ancient Earth history along with the timeline and historical writing, every even all the contact notes have been vague, and some confusing. And lots of people cause confusion when they discuss this subject matter. I read all this spread out info, and read people discussing this, and I read one where the pyramids were built 73,000 years ago, then they where rebuilt 13,000 years ago, then there was these atomic wars? Then an astroid hitting the Earth, Then you have all these Ets coming and going, then I read you have these people who lived on the Earth stranded just a couple thousand number tribe, for almost 22 million years, hard to believe, I don't know what there life span was, or if they received the aging gene later, it's hard to believe they could live a thousand years in the wild, there is no way the average person can be exposed to this info and make any sense, I tried to tell a couple people, buts it's as if your reading from a science fiction novel. |
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