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Author Message Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2014 Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 09:15 am:        Hendrikus1970, why are you so worried about Micheal Moore being what he is, rich or untrustworthy, etc. He is what he is. The point is, he is a major personality where lot of people listen to him through his shows and movies. If he chooses to do a film about Billy, it would be the best thing of all times. At least the people (who never heard of Billy)would have a chance to hear about Billy and what he is all about. It does not not matter what type of character Michael Moore is, we need to accomplish our objective of letting more and more people know about Billy. There is no need of attacking each others' credibility or personality here. Who knows, Michael Moore might change himself after knowing more about Billy. Give him a chance. Thanks. Corey Member Post Number: 1266 Registered: 12-2009 Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 12:53 pm:        I'm going to try and respond, even though perhaps I should not, as it may do no good (the recipient may not have the correct soil to let seeds of truth germinate). The P's do not make mistakes for how they handle the Meier case, it is not their fault if the negative prophecies enter the realm of predictions in the future times, they are simply following their directives, a best possible way to equate these foreign entity directives is equate them to Star Trek's "prime directive". These are Earth problems, and ultimately Earth's problems to either solve, or not solve, and when the powers that be, or the masses laugh, reject, and do not listen to Meier's warnings, this is not a Plejaren problem, or fault, this is an Earth humanity problem, and fault. They have done more then enough disseminating (through Billy) logical neutralization methods to solve our problems, how do eliminate war and properly deal with terrorism once and for all, humane overpopulation recuctions, and how to logically deal with criminals, so they can learn from their mistakes, and not habitually reincarnate as criminals. What more could we ask of them, if we have the answers, and collectively do not put them into motion. Further more, the P's use impulses to influence our science, and medicine, and they also use impulses to try and get the Earth humanity to follow the laws, and recommendations of Creation, which the powers that be constantly try to put towards weapons use. Furthermore, there were 2 different direct landing opportunities scheduled by the Plejaren, one that was stupidly rejected by the US government in the 70's, and one for the year 2000 that was cancelled due to evil of the US government, if either of those 2 were to have occurred, we would be living in a very different Earth environment right now. The fact that they did not occur is not the fault of the Plejaren, but of Earth humanity needs to bear the entire blame. Furthermore the Plejaren took the trouble, and effort to deport the Bafath, after they tried attacking the Center, so at least we no longer have negative ET's trying to enslave the Earth, all we have is residual teletonic impulses that will not dissipate for 200-300 more years. The Plejaren should be thanked for going through all of the trouble, and effort of housing almost incorrigible prisoners in their Federation prison planet. One of the laws that is at work here, that we of Earth humanity must be prepared to comprehend, is the casual law of cause and effect, that will release effects to our actions, thoughts, feelings, and deeds, even if they effects are negative, and we, and our descendants suffer greatly as a result. There would be no evolution for our planet, if the P's would just "fix" all of our wrongdoings. Blaming others for mistakes that are not theirs, and do not belong to them, is not how to make the mistakes learned from, so they can be neutralized by the people the mistakes actually belong to, which is Earth humanity ourselves. The next 800 years will be "school of hard knocks" learning time-period for our planet, and our descendants will be better off for it in the long run, whether you agree with this or not. MH is not making mistakes either, but I will let him respond personally, so he can exercise the law of self-defense, as I consider him a dear friend, and a great ally to the mission. Changing your mind-set about this situation, as well as, changing your defeatist mentality, is freely available from studying the recommended study material, as one of the biggest themes is overcoming difficulties, of which Earth has no shortage of difficulties presently. Mistakes, such as unjustly blaming others for your planet's problems, are mistakes that can be neutralized so the learning experience can be evolutive, if you so choose, or not, the choice is ultimately yours. mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche. consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124 ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216 ----- Salome/Corey Müske Votan Member Post Number: 566 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 01:43 pm:        Hendrikus1970 You started this catfight by your negative attitude. What makes you the expert. Really you have to choose your words. joe Votan Member Post Number: 567 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 11:23 pm:        Learnmore 12 Fine as long as he does not twist it around. You know what they can do to turn it the wrong way and you never know who is behind him. joe Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2016 - 01:36 am:        Lets See, If you sell books for 50,60 70 dollars and tell the world to learn old german then ofcourse thats not a mistake. 1- 1.3 billion chinese 2- a billion people in india and so fort 3- one third of the population is muslim If i knew in 1950 about mobile phones and mobile aplications then i can bet you that all patents where mine ! Imagne the schock worldwide if one man owned the patents that are so important in current days. If i could see the future and past then do you belief that i have to ask money of people to learn them something ? If i could give impulses to scientists then i could also give Bill gates a few of them. I could give you lots more of examples but i belief its not necessary because your all so intelligent and smart. 8 billion people and how many do you think know about the Meier case and how many belief the case ? I could give you some realtime data on how many real vistors and views the websites like figu and theyfly get ,but honestly i dont think you wanne hear it ! I know there is a lot of free info but stil the most important books and vids cost money right? Do you have an idea on how many people have to life on a few dollars a day? But ok nobody makes mistakes and the P's are perfect and have no blame ! Btw did not start this catfight ! I just stated that i think Michael Moore is a Hoaxer and a fake socialist ! Then i get atacked here for being a conspiracy nutter and predictable and negative,haha The reason i am worried about Michael Moore is because hes not to first to harm the case. But call me stuppid and negative if you want ! I stick with my opinion on this because i belief that i'm a realist and logical thinker. and yes Votan i do love myself “If we can really understand the problem, the answer will come out of it, because the answer is not separate from the problem. ” Quote by Jiddu Krishnamurti Msmichelle Member Post Number: 153 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2016 - 03:50 pm:        Corey. ...as always your post are on point. We definitely have our hands full. MsMichelle Msmichelle Member Post Number: 154 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2016 - 03:49 pm:        Hendrikus1970. ... thank you for giving us the experience of what it must be like for BEAM to disseminate this information..... thank you for giving us a taste of what Michael Horn must deal with on a daily basis when he disseminates this information...... for the life of me I just do not understand our mentality ....thankfully we will in time understand our stupidity , arrogance and eventually at some point take full responsibility for our actions and our own problems on this planet... your comments are a constant reminder.... of the work ahead for Humanity on this planet MsMichelle Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1214 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Monday, September 05, 2016 - 07:28 pm:        Hnedrikus, You project an immature sense of entitlement, so my guess, only a guess, is that you were raised in a socialist country, or some please where people are “taken care of” by the government, others, etc. I love it when people actually complain about the price of books, DVDs, etc. It tells me right away that they’ve done NOTHING enterprising themselves. They haven’t invested in making a film, writing and publishing a book, etc., all of which are speculative ventures with no guarantee that some Big Daddy is going to make sure they sell and that you at least get your own investment back. So, since people like this are devoid of actual life experience that requires their own risk, investment, time, energy, etc., they have nothing better to do than bitch and moan and criticize the boldness of others having thusly invested and produced their works…which no one is compelled to buy. This is also the mentality that is ripe for domination, bio-chipping, invasion, etc. No initiative, no self-starting, self-responsibility…just complaints. I suggest some introspection to discover just…HOW you ever took on such an apathetic, entitled outlook on life. Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 05:30 am:        its obvious you dont listen and read what i said ! I have the utmost respect for you and all your efforts( but i said that before also ) Billy's work wil be falsefied again ,like it was with Jmmanuel and Mohhamed Reason for this what i pointed out before also. I did not atack you Michael Horn ! I only said that i belief its a mistake to get that endorser of Hillary involved in this case . Reasons for that i pointed out also. puurnieuws.nl is a website of mine and i share many post and topics you make . Im from the Netherlands and it has nothing to do with me being immature or me being from a socialist country ! Btw the great socialist promoter is M,Moore aldo its a fake socialist like George Soros and his phyco gang. But as i said before good luck with trying to get M,Moore We will see how that will turn out. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1215 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 10:25 am:        Hendrikus, I don’t feel attacked by you and I know that you support the mission, my work and the work of others. I just want you to be responsible for what you say…and to think things through So here’s a question for you: What’s better, nothing being said by Michael Moore about the Billy Meier material…or anything being said by him…to millions of people? Think about it. Votan Member Post Number: 570 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 01:55 pm:        Hendrikus1970 As I said before you must choose your words carefully. Obviously you have offended some people. joe Scott Moderator Post Number: 2642 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 04:29 pm:        Michael, My sediments exactly Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1216 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 08:03 pm:        grit, True Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 84 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 11:52 pm:        Well if Michael Moore is in the pocket of the group that spent millions of dollars to debunk Billy Meier and it wil turn out that at the end of this documentry ( with a few twist of the facts) that his conclusion is that Mufon or Mahesh Karumudi is right and that its all a hoax ,then it could wel be the final nail in the coffin. This group as we all know go trough great lengts to make figu into a cult group. Michael_k Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 02-2016 Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 08:03 am:        Hi Hendrikus, What does Billy said about the defamation league: They are all also promoting the mission without been aware of it. You are real concern, that is what I feel of what you feels. This let you have an inner pains about Billys message for Earth humanity to become matured get defame and also the falsification of the spiritual teaching again. Whatever will come out of this documentary from Michael Moore at the end those who view it would decide for themselves to make their own research. For me what I've notice in this forum is, the accusations and judgements with the terms; IRRESPONSIBILITY and ILLOGICAL has become so common in use. There are so many levels of responsibilities and logicalness in our daily life implicated that we don't realize it. Each and every one cares for his/her daily livelihood. Isn't that also responsibility? If am I sick, should I be judge or be accused of not have attained medical bachelor, because I'm not able to heal myself? We can not fix our cars because we all didn't learn auto mechanics. Is that irresponsibility? Every individual have his/her skills, capabilities and abilities, period. Imo many do not really understand what Billy meant about self-responsibility There is nothing wrong to have an objections. Objection is a sublime virtue, so please maintain it. Best regards, Michael Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1218 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 10:23 am:        It's obvious that you spend too much time in negative speculation and are very inexperienced in things pertaining to bringing attention to information. So, since you continue focus, dwell and machinate on the negative, pessimistic mode, at the very least you won't appreciate how things actually work in the world at large. Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 09:01 pm:        Sorry but this must be a joke right? ISIS Confirms “Sleepers” in Europe as Billy Meier Warned New Video on the Dangers of Asteroid Apophis America’s Coming Civil Wars The Prophetic Warnings, the Press, the Disasters WW III with Russia will lead to our utter destruction True patriotism does not require one to commit suicide, nor to support those who endanger the lives of Americans And i can go on for wile with this ! Every single day you speak about this topics and tell me not to spent to much time in the negative ? Very funny indeed,laughing my bollox of here. The people that are causing this wars and isis refugees are Khazarian jews ,Like Angela Merkel,George Soros,Adelson,Haim Saban ,Murdoch and so fort! They controll our media,politicians secret servives,wapen industrym,energy markets and banking systems !!! Call my a conspiracy nutter if you want and tell me that im responsible for my own actions is just bullshit. This group has so much power that even Billy said he did not want to talk about this group of people anymore because wanted to compleet his mission ! Now they are trying to provoque a nuclear war with Russia and China and you tell me not to dwelll in the negative ,haha I give up,lets al go and sit infront of a pyramide and say some words we dont understand or who knows what they mean ! It obviously did not help humanity ! Best regards, The negative one ( but yes i do love myself and the people around me) Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1219 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 09:59 pm:        I think the difference is simply that we try to warn about what will happen if the material is ignored, we create and link to petitions, offer the spiritual teaching, produce films, write articles, do interviews, welcome the participation of others - including famous film makers - scientists, etc., and you...sit around and criticize these efforts. Many of us are doers, trying our best in our lifetimes to bring about positive change. Some others just live to find fault and...don't do much towards the positive change. Some people have surrendered, become apathetic and look to blame the world because they have indeed given up their own self-responsibility, so that those who are looking to control and have power over others find willing, self-made victims in them. Votan Member Post Number: 576 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2016 - 11:19 pm:        Hendrikus 1970 So there is always going to be warnings, only because mankind is stupid. Just get ready in case it happens.It does not mean you have to live in isolation. They are only words and we all have to take them at face value. joe Hendrikus1970 Member Post Number: 86 Registered: 04-2009 Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 03:14 am:        Sit around and criticize these efforts ? I cant count the times that i pointed out to people about the Meier case and to your website and videos. But ok i surrender ! Scott Moderator Post Number: 2643 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 - 09:16 pm:        Michael Horn speaking in Berkeley Calif: http://newhumanitymovement.com/speakers.html Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 62 Registered: 05-2014 Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 12:13 pm:        Michael, your new video on "Michael Horn on Mysterious Radio" does not work. The site says URL is not correct. I don't know if it is me or anyone else is having problems trying to listen to that interview. Thanks. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1227 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 06:11 pm:        Hi, Sorry about the error. This is the recent one: http://www.mysteriousradio.com/mysteriousradio/ The other one will be in November.

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