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Joe
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Post Number: 469
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2016 - 03:02 am: | 
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Justsayno,
According to Billy, there are no multiple timelines because time is linear. Therefore there is no such thing as "in their timeline, Hillary won the election". What has happened, which in this case would be Donald Trump winning the US presidential election cannot be changed. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1249
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2016 - 09:09 am: |
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Regarding "'only' 6000 years ahead of us", we have to realize that technological development on this planet has been of an exponential nature even in the past 100 years or so.
Considering how rapidly things have developed in terms of mechanical, analog, digital, phases and technologies, etc., 6,000 years of development once a society is moving so rapidly is bound to produce things we may even not quite imagine. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 297
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2016 - 09:04 pm: |
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The P's are in part responsible for helping us advance our technological level with regards to computers, internet, transistors, ect. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 651
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 11:39 am: |
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Hugo
If they are aware of the misuse that the humans would put it to like micro chipping and cyber warfare then I do not think that they would be helping us.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 495
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 07:28 pm: |
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Joe
You are right advances in science without developing the human consciousness is futile.
But if they did so, maybe they did it, - for the spread of Billy's teachings...?
Salome |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 507
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2016 - 07:30 pm: |
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Important amendment re. “UFOs on terrestrial skies…”
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/14997.html#POST79891
It may be possible that the 3 groups are from the same group of ETs that crashed in Roswell!
This one may conclude from CR 215 (Quetzal re. the androids flying the crashed Roswell saucer and their “masters”)
“100. Only the appearance of our androids is different in nature, for they are created after our likenesses, while the Reticulum androids resemble their creators, who are, in spite of their high technology and various sciences, still very unknowing in terms of really spiritual and creative interests, yet still arranged into a high and liberal culture with expressed human rights.
101. Nevertheless, our directives forbid us from maintaining deliberate physical or telepathic contact with them.”
(German see *) below)
This sounds very much like what Ptaah explained re. the spiritual development of the 3 “foreign to Earth” groups of ETs flying on terrestrial skies (secular rather than spiritual goals – Plejaren are forbidden to contact them):
Thus one may speculate that these 3 groups may be from Reticulum Zeti.
As for the status quo of their sciences:
It is advised to re-read CR 215 (from 215/ 74 - 102) – Quetzal gives a very detailed description of the androids that flew the crashed saucer (life span limited to 300 years, certain independence despite their collective consciousness etc.) – it will take humanity many centuries or even millennia to create similar bioorganic androids)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215
Salome,
Bill
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German:
100. Nur das Aussehen unserer Androiden ist anderer Art, denn sie sind nach unseren Vorbildern erschaffen während die Reticulum-Androiden ihren Erschaffern gleichen, die trotz ihrer hohen Technik und vielfältigen Wissenschaft in bezug der wirklich geistigen und schöpferischen Belange noch sehr unwissend, jedoch trotzdem in eine hohe und freiheitliche Kultur mit ausgesprochen humanen Rechten eingeordnet sind.
101. Trotzdem verbieten unsere Direktiven aber, dass wir mit ihnen bewussten physischen oder telepathischen Kontakt pflegen. |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 514
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 30, 2016 - 07:09 am: |
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Alien Station on the North Pole, too?
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/is-there-a-secret-entrance-to-the-north-pole-have-aliens-visited-the-moon-the-internets-big-questions/news-story/438a084b80077dd40ab4332da77f0715 |
Watchdog
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Friday, December 30, 2016 - 04:34 pm: |
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Hugo.
Knowing that they said they did help us with techno advances. I can't help but to wonder why they wont tell us what the original reason for the building of the pyramids was, Or why they wont tell us about the planet Mercury or a clear explanation of the three ET groups who come here periodically.
Why all the secretes ? They say they wont interfere with our evolutionary process, yet they did.
Something isn't adding up.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 528
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 09:34 am: |
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Corey,
I moved this conversation from "Ape derived from man" to "Time Travel ie; UFO's from the future", seemed more appropriate?
Werner von Braun’s concern was that instead of being honest about its motivation, that the U. S. would ultimately use future UFO's and an ET’s invasion as another threat in order to perpetuate budgets for the pentagon?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZCb.htm
Dr Carol Rosin worked with the late German Scientist Dr Werner von Braun.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/briefing/disclosure09.htm#Testimony of Dr. Carol Rosin
Kenneth
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 729
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 10:23 am: |
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It could just be that they know and understand the creational laws and methods of the evolution process better than we do.
This could be the reason we don't understand why they do what they do in the method they do it in?
Perhaps it is better for us to investigate and learn these laws and thereby come to understand their reasons and methods?
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Corey
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 11:04 pm: |
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Eddie, Coming to understand their reasons and methods, through our own evolutionary process of learning to understand these cosmic-regulatory laws makes perfect sense to me. "Goblet" sprinkled with a little new TJ makes a good harvestable fruit.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Kanesean
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 - 12:19 am: |
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So seems like the Plejaren close to "maxing out" in materialistic technology? Given that they are close to being high-Council level, and they always claimed their technology to be far-advanced than other extraterrestrials (Roswell aliens, Group 234 etc...)
I am interested to know if there is indeed a maximum point in terms of materialistic technological development. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 611
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 06:50 am: |
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Kanesean: there are significantly more scientifically and technologically advanced societies than that associated with the Plejaren. The Timars and Sonaer, for example. The Plejaren ally themselves with some of these people. At least some science and technology transfer goes on between these societies, however, that process is probably strictly regulated by the capacity of their respective societies to absorb and make use of technological advances without being so altered that they become naturally unbalanced. Society can be a delicate thing, a stool balanced on three legs: the resources/environment, scientific understanding/technological capability, and historical/cultural beliefs. Change any of these three legs and the other two automatically compensate. By following the natural laws to a 'T', and by following the recommendations of the more refined type of consciousness, in the form of the High Council, the Plejaren hope to avoid any more problems that come from a society in the process of radically balancing itself out.
If you think about it, materialistic technology is just a tool, one which we may not need to be happy. Any person wise enough would be happy on a planet without any tools whatsoever, and likewise any society wise enough would be happy in complete scientific and historical ignorance. The goal in our succession of lives is not technological progress, that's just a sideshow, but rather our own consciousness development instead. Still scientific progress and technological development does go hand in hand with the evolution of consciousness.
That said, there is an interesting hypothet: what would the universe be like if all were aligned in the Universal Creational Laws? What progress could we, the Universe, come up with then? This would be true Universalism. But that's a question for another Yuga, I s'pose. Perhaps the Mission is ultimately an attempt to figure this out.
Life
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 660
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 12:59 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert
Why would creation put all these materialistic technology if not to put it to good use.
joe
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 612
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 03:25 am: |
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Good morning Joe,
Creation does not intend anything for us, except to provide reality the original impetus for Life. How we carry on our lives is entirely up to us, though we do learn and evolve sometimes. Love is the way Creation breathes. There are no strings attached to this love. We can develop any technique for manipulating the matrix of reality around us, from using crude stone-age tools with which we chase gazelle, to organizing subtle fine-energy living computers and opening cross-reality hyperspace transmissions, and all the while Creation itself... simply loves.
Why would we develop massive weapons if not to use them? Why we would develop new genetically engineered pathogens, if not to use them? We can already destroy the whole planet, and only barely can we constrain ourselves from making use of the destructive tools and techniques we have thus far developed. In the case of Earth, our technological capability has outstripped our collective wisdom. We are only just keeping the genies in the bottle for now. The longer we do so, the more opportunities we have to grow into the kind of collective understanding that can handle the technology we've developed. Every single war-free day is a small step in the right direction.
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njiber asaala hesporoona!
Hope that helps : )
Life
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 662
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 02:08 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert.
Who is responsible for misuse of technology. We can thank those idiots that manipulated our genes.
We were given free will but some of us cannot determine between positive or negative actions.
joe
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 613
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2017 - 08:06 pm: |
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Howdy Joe,
Fully do I understand the anger at people who have done wrong. However, trying to make sense of the nagging disconcertion of unfairness doesn't do us any good. Don't forgive 'n forget, but neither dwell on past ills. We are self-responsible beings, like it or not. Many of us would blame, blame, blame, blame, never taking responsibility for our own mistakes. (How well I know this!) Let's not fall into the blame game, it's only a deterrent from getting on with our lives. Focus instead on the free will side of the equation, what actions we can take.
The power of subconscious thoughts amassing and following us through our lives like ghosts haunting us, plaguing our clear-mindedness, is often alluded to on this forum in one way or another. To clear these ghosts it helps to allow whatever is, to be, without expectations or desires, simply allowing life to be whatever it is... even if it's boringly, uninterestingly normal. Realistically, whatever life is, is what it is. Holding on to that in the present helps to nullify the nagging ghosts of our past. There's no need to feed our ghosts; let's starve them instead.
Life
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 664
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 11:17 am: |
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Michaelhelfert
Easily said than done. Most of us cannot control this bad gene that is implanted in us.
All the bad publicity does not help at all,we have had it too easy with all the monetary attractions.
Time is coming when it will all snap.
joe
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 614
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2017 - 05:35 am: |
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Votan, when we argue for our own limitations, sure enough they are ours.
Thanks for this discussion. It's shown me how poor my own thinking has been. The time is coming when that will snap, and I will wonder how I could have wallowed in self-pity and self-doubt for so long. The time is coming when I very viscerally realize that I could have lived my life more realistically. That time is coming none too soon.
: )
Life
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1255
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2017 - 02:15 pm: |
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> What nonsense. Then I guess that “most of us” are just homicidal maniacs, unable to control our urges at all.
Suggested review: Self-responsibility as one of the cornerstone’s of the spiritual teaching. |
Watchdog
Member
Post Number: 127
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:31 pm: |
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For everyone.
I wanted to refresh my memory on a few things so I re-read Asket's Explanation 3 - February 8th, 1953
Where her, along with Billy and Jitschi went back into time to the year 1300.
They went to a cabin in the woods and met with rabbi Jechieli. During this visit. Billy gave the Rabbi a flash light and later on, Jitshi gave the rabbi his electric wire he used to protect his camp site.
As I always do. I cross referenced the Rabbi to see if there is anything written about him and this flash light.
To my surprise. There is. I found a book titled. Folklare of the Jews. In this book they tell the tale of a Rabbi who owned a miraculous magical lamp that stayed lit for an entire week without oil.
Here's the link to the book. The chapter where this is mentioned is titled. The Miraculous Lamp.
This link should bring up the right chapter.
Thought you all would enjoy this.
https://books.google.com/books?id=6NvGBQAAQBAJ&pg=PT152&lpg=PT152&dq=Rabbi+Jechiel&source=bl&ots=apjcseKvBZ&sig=_O7eJwVUl2BJVxzNQ7E9ZALmfe4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid1fTY69bRAhUFcBoKHcWsCH0Q6AEIPTAG#v=onepage&q=Rabbi%20Jechiel&f=false
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Adxok
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 05:28 am: |
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Watchdog,
that was extraordinary! Thank you very much.
Makes me wonder though why it is regarding the jews for some reason. |
Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 538
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 01:26 am: |
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WOW Nice find Watchdog
i looked for that years ago but didnt find anything
Thanks for sharing
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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