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    Alistair Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2018 |
I assure you it's not. You should be open minded to the prospect that it could be true. Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 204 Registered: 02-2013 |
Logical reasoning concludes based on what I know about the spirit teaching, the past history of 'Henok's team', etc., that it is not true, I repeat one last time, its your fantasy and imagination Alistair. Also provide us with irrefutable evidence to prove your claims which can be verified independently, contact the CG49 / Billy and let them / him corroborate your claims. If you make statements, better be prepared to provide the evidence, so deduction can be done to find the root of your claims, and verify it is true or not. The mere statement that 'it could be true' is a giant red flag that it isn't true. Something is true or not. I am dropping the ball in your court. We are not here to merely believe, but to learn and to KNOW. Salome, Jacob As for me, all I know is that I know nothing. ~ Socrates | ||
Alistair Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2018 |
Your "logical reasoning" based on what you know about the spiritual teaching should lead you to realise that past life recollection is possible, and this is based on information given by the Plejaren. The only way to find out whether this is true or not (for you) is for it to be read in the contact reports, but it's my understanding that Billy doesn't ask Ptaah or anyone else questions submitted by other people, because he won't answer them. (What I was informed by Christian Frehner) As far as I know, the core group only know that's they flew here in their spaceships and died here, they don't know how long they spent here before they died. What would they have done if they lived out their lives? The people in Atlantis and Mu were around our height, and the Getreuer were around 30 foot tall. They had to end their lives (using the crystals) so they would be able to carry out the mission. I'm simply sharing my experience and it's your choice whether to believe it or not. It's good to be open minded to these things and take a neutral outlook on them - that it may be true or it may not be true - you don't know. The fact that I wrote "it could be true" is no red flag that it's not true, it's advice that you, in your position,should be open minded because the Plejaren have told Billy that past life recollection is possible. Closed mindedness is unhealthy and neutral thinking is what's needed. Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 205 Registered: 02-2013 |
Its your experience based on your imagination. Past life recollection is possible if you consciously disable the censor in a specific way, which according to Billy, is unknown to people on this planet, you are not able to have those recollections because you dont know how to do this. If you knew, you would not be telling this on a public forum. Also the Getreur were also Earth human sized people. I am thinking neutrally as much as possible, and on based on what I know what you tell is sci-fi. Salome, Jacob As for me, all I know is that I know nothing. ~ Socrates | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 879 Registered: 04-2013 |
Alistair, Of course it realized that past life recollection is possible from ancient times to a few hundred years ago. That knowledge and a little fiat monies will get you a cup of coffee or tea. In other words, what’s the point … then what? It appears you’re aware that when a person reincarnates it’s with a newly forming personality and clean slate, so to speak; same spiritform of course, and hopefully to become a little wiser. Some of the things that have happened in Earth’s past and elsewhere for that matter where a particular spiritform was involved in, may not be something that you want to bring forward? It’s also understood that a large percentage of the spiritform’s on Earth today, did not originate here. If you haven’t read “The Way to Live”, “Goblet of Truth” or “ the “Talmud Jmmanuel”, written by Billy, it’s highly recommended, you’ll find a lot of knowledge and information there, which is part of the spiritual teaching. Sincerely Kenneth | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1362 Registered: 07-2009 |
Zowie, you're definitely in need of getting greater familiarity with the CR, the spiritual teaching, logic, etc. As for "to believe it or not", haven't you figured out yet that this ins't a belief-based teaching, etc.? And as far as "it could be true", they "could have" come here on a very large pizza but... | ||
Alistair Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2018 |
Jacob, I didn't consciously recover them, they came to me unconsciously, after having spent a few weeks focusing my subconscious mind on remembering past life memories, and after having opened my pineal gland using neroli oil and a diffuser. I would just be doing something, anything, and a memory would come in a flash, and play out. Also, as far as I know they were giants, around 30 feet tall from a bigger planet than ours. Why wouldn't someone post on a forum if they had recovered past life memories? If the story is interesting, why not share it with other people who are also interested in the past? Also, why would it be sci-fi? It's perfectly plausible that the Getreuer created a way to end their lives in order to enter the reincarnation cycle. Kenneth, for me personally, I wanted to remember past lives because I was very curious, however, without thinking, as you said, that there may be some things I didn't want to know about. I've learnt my lesson anyway. I've read some of "The way to live" and "Goblet of the truth" as well as others, but haven't yet read "The Talmud of Jmannuel". Michael, I think if someone posts a personal account, you should be open minded to it - it may not be true, but it also might be true. I know it's not a belief based teaching, but if someone told you a story about a UFO, you can believe them or not believe them. Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1363 Registered: 07-2009 |
Re "It's perfectly plausible that the Getreuer created a way to end their lives in order to enter the reincarnation cycle." Hardly, since suicide is against the spiritual teaching and Creational laws. A lot of "whys" don't make for any compelling arguments. | ||
Alistair Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2018 |
Jacob, I didn't consciously recover them, they came to me unconsciously, after having spent a few weeks focusing my subconscious mind on remembering past life memories, and after having opened my pineal gland using neroli oil and a diffuser. I would just be doing something, anything, and a memory would come in a flash, and play out. Also, as far as I know they were giants, around 30 feet tall from a bigger planet than ours. Why wouldn't someone post on a forum if they had recovered past life memories? If the story is interesting, why not share it with other people who might also be interested in it? Also, why would it be sci-fi? It's perfectly plausible that the Getreuer created a way to end their lives in order to enter the reincarnation cycle. Kenneth, for me personally, I wanted to remember past lives because I was very curious, however, without thinking, as you said, that there may be some things I didn't want to know about. I've learnt my lesson anyway. I've read some of "The way to live" and "Goblet of the truth" as well as others, but haven't yet read "The Talmud of Jmannuel". Michael, I think if someone posts a personal account, you should be open minded to it - it may not be true, but it also might be true. I know it's not a belief based teaching, but if someone told you a story about a UFO, you can believe them or not believe them. Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2838 Registered: 12-1999 |
Alistair, Would you consider the following dream recollection valid and true, or a fabrication at creating a persona of being highly evolved? I am not sure where we can draw the line between dreams versus remembering something as a past life experience: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/3774.html#POST12132 | ||
Alistair Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 06-2018 |
Now I see that it does seem implausible, I should have said "possible". Maybe they had a reason to. Maybe it was so that they would reincarnate as normal sized Earth humans in order to teach without being worshipped like they were in the past? Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Alistair Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 06-2018 |
Scott, I don't know. Personally, I think you should be awake if you're trying to determine whether something is a past life memory or not, the difference between being awake and asleep is quite large, and it's easier to be deceived when asleep. For most sane people, (without psychosis etc) when they're awake, visions/memories, don't just come out of nowhere. They come from the storage banks. Unless you're self suggesting (which I know I wasn't, I wasn't consciously trying to remember, the memory just played out) Also, if you're suggesting I made the story up to give off the persona of being highly evolved, I didn't. I simply wanted to share an interesting memory from the past. Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 819 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Alistair it's my understanding from the material that you will only receive a lump sum total of your previous life, not the day to day details. Sounds like a fantasy story to me. If you want to know who you were in your previous lives just look around you. You've probably lead a life just like each person you meet and probably no one famous. Were you a tall ET? Since you have no physical evidence of your claim, what does it matter? How does that kind of information help you in this life? Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 07-2017 |
What Justsayno said, she beat me to it! Are you reading my thoughts?  Andrew Grimshaw - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Alistair Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 06-2018 |
That's right I don't have physical evidence of my claim and therefore it's not that relevant, however I thought people might be interested in the story and it's there for people to read if they are interested. It doesn't really help me in this life, other than the fact that it was the subject of my interest; I was curious to know about my past lives and that's what interested me at the time. Praised be Creation, the wise, the righteous. Truly, I say to you, there is no higher happiness than wisdom, no better friend than the truth and knowledge and love, and no greater saviour than the power of the spirit. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 823 Registered: 10-2009 |
You know I am haha. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 883 Registered: 04-2013 |
Does anyone know if Graham Hancock is Legitimate? He wrote the book "fingerprints of the Gods". He talks about, "The Secret Origin of Humanity with Graham Hancock". He seems to be accurate regarding Atlantis. Kenneth | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 475 Registered: 02-2010 |
Kenneth, I think he's knowledgeable, but as far as Legitimate? IMO, he's no difference than Michael Shermer. Both "talk" intelligent conversation, but are just as "blind" as most so called intellects or scientists. MsMichelle | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1367 Registered: 07-2009 |
I contacted Hancock some months ago regarding the Meier case. He was resistant to it, I think in large part because Meier's info far exceeds his and Hancock wants to be the expert in something where others' knowledge is greater. He's also a champion of drug-taking, i.e. Ayahuasca, which perhaps has complicated things in terms of his intellectual abilities, etc. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 886 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Msmichelle, Regarding Mr. Musk, you may be correct; nonetheless, IMO, I don’t see Elon Musk in the same boat as Michael Shermer who is the founder of “The Skeptics Society”. In May of 2018 Mr. Musk loathes skeptics and called them out. I worked in the aerospace industry that said, It’s very unlikely that Space-X (Musk) will ever accomplish the reentry of the 1st stage rockets. He proved them wrong. Likewise, it’s doubtful that Musk will land a 1st stage rocket motor on a floating barge in the ocean. He proved them wrong. Auto manufacture’s declared that reliable electric vehicles will not happen for a very long time. He proved them wrong. And the list of skeptics goes on and on. I’m not saying that Elon Musk is one of the persons that Ptaah is referring to, but Musk does fit the profile to a certain degree. In retrospect, Elon Musk was criticized for not supporting religion. “Faith doesn’t demand proof, but rather belief, even in the purest absence of proof. Proof is science’s cross to bear …” And in another statement “… science relies on stark boundaries among its many disciplines such as geology, chemistry, biology, and psychology, perhaps science as a whole should stick to describing the world in which we live, not the one from which we came.” I don't know, we will see as time marches on... Kenneth | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 477 Registered: 02-2010 |
Hello Kenneth, I was talking about Hancock (post #475), however as far as Musk is concerned, He may have been "contaminated" by the world he "entertains". MsMichelle | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 887 Registered: 04-2013 |
Msmichelle, You were talking about Hancock.. Yikes, my mistake, sorry about that. Don't know how I jumped track; need to sit closer to my Rayguard, :-) I can see where Graham Hancock and Michael Shermer are in the same boat. Don't really know much about either one of them? Thanks for the information Sincerely Kenneth | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 888 Registered: 04-2013 |
Michael, Graham Hancock was resistant to the Billy Meier material in large part because Meier's info far exceeds his? OK, it sound like Hancock also has a huge ego issue as well? That answers my questions, thank you! Sincerely Kenneth |
