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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 961
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 04:40 am: | 
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Hi Kenneth,
The situation before the asteroid hit is really too complex to truly and fully understand it. For that we would need an animation of the NP-SP axis movement.
E.g. OM gives a very plausible explanation re. the extinction of the Siberian mammoths that froze in an instant. *)
But if we move Florida 4000 km in a straight N-S direction where would the Azores (Atlantis), Siberia, Greenland and the Antarctic be? E.g. the Azores are today some 1500 km north of Florida which then was in the far north. Would this not move Atlantis (1500 km further north than Florida) - i.e. into the Arctic circle ?
My guess:
Maybe the asteroid hit tilted the Earth axis not only in a straight N-S direction but dragged it as well in a SE direction **)
But this is only my guess ***)
Salome, Bill
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Anyone experiencing the present polar vortex in the US would understand that a massive sudden and permanent change in temperature could "quick-freeze" the animals that were only minutes earlier munching their nourishing Siberian grass.
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This trajectory of the asteroid would account for the elliptical impact craters in Charleston SC: acc. to OM the asteroid shot over the US from the NW in SE direction.
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It is very unfortunate that we do not have and do not receive any further information about the prehistory of our planet:
The causes and effects, the politics and the intrigues that played out in Atlantis, are there any remnants, the whereabouts of the new race (the Adams and Eves) during this apocalyptic time, the geographical changes due to the asteroid hit etc. etc.
There are so many questions: If they were answered we may see our present with a new, much deeper understanding: the grain of truths in the myths in religions and sagas, the unfolding political scenarios (e.g. arms race, the danger of being hit by an asteroid). We may even realize that today is but an effect of what was then … given to us so that we work more wisely and do not repeat what once destroyed our world: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16075.html#POST85277
“…I had been born again in 2100 A.D. in Nebraska [today a state in central (northern) US] The sea apparently covered all of the western part of the country, as the city where I lived was on the coast. … Water covered parts of Alabama. Norfolk. Virginia, had become an immense seaport. New York had been destroyed either by war or an immense earthquake and was being rebuilt. Industries were scattered over the countryside. Most of the houses were built of glass. These changes in the Earth will come to pass, for the time and half times are at an end and there begin[s] those periods for the readjustments.. ”
EC talking about a dream he had in 1936, in which he foresaw his next incarnation …
In this future incarnation scientists study his readings and take him – in a long metal, high speed - flying-ship to the places in which he lived as Edgar Cayce, collecting the many records of his work as “Edgar Cayce”...…
Was it only a dream? Was it prophetic? |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 831
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 08:44 am: |
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Aren't the Hyperboreans and Atlantians two separate groups, then living in two different areas?
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Norm3
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 02:49 pm: |
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Votan, I didn't question whether it happened. I was confused by the explanation! Translations etc. I wanted exact clarification of the position. |
Norm3
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2019 - 02:57 pm: |
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Hugo, Could Bimini be considered Florida or an outpost? Its funny in the South Palm Beach area of Florida I was at a New Age book store & I noticed the city was called Atlantis. 
Quick facts,
"Atlantis is a city in Palm Beach County, Florida, United States. According to 2005 census estimates, the city had a population of 2,142. The city was named after the legendary island of Atlantis. Wikipedia" |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 962
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 09:27 am: |
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JSN:
Not quite sure if your comment refers to my post.
If so, then , yes, of course the Hyperboreans (settling in Florida) were rebellious expatriates returning and the Atlanteans lived in the area of the today’s Azores.
What my post wants to explains, is this:
Today Florida is ca. 1500 km closer to the equator then the Azores.
If their original location was ca. 4000 km north – i.e. if they both – Florida and the Azores – moved, by the same amount of km, up north, in a straight line, until Florida was in the area where the north wind blows (Hyperborea) then the Azores should come to rest 1500 km further north:
That might push (if Hyperborean Florida was within a 1500 km radius from the NP) the Azores to or over the NP but they would still remain in the arctic circle (on the other side of the NP).
I do not think that this was the cold location was the location of Greater Atlantis:
Solon was told it was in front of the Pillars of Hercules (Str. of Gibraltar).
The Plejaren, too, tell us, that Gr. Atlantis was where the Azores were.
My only explanation then – that the Earth axis did not move in a straight N-S direction but that the impact of the 2 main boulders swayed the Earth axis, moving Florida much more (from N to S) while positioning the [area we call today the] Azores, almost unchanged.
It is not easy to find an explanation that combines OM’s and the Plejaren’s location of Greater Atlantis with the further information that Florida then was in Hyperborea (where Greenland is today)
Salome, Bill |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1910
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 02:06 pm: |
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Comparing Apophis to the Atlantis killer asteroid is like comparing Ayers Rock to the devil's marble in that they are simply unrepentent, unapologetic, antisocial, terroristic, spectacular but the difference is the size of its ego and one is self driven whilst the other one needed a kick up the arse.
I think Apophis is best described by comparing it to Ayers rock in Uluru Northern Territory of Australia.
Just like the great pyramid of giza is situated in the center of the land mass of earth likewise Ayers rock is nearly smack bang in the middle of Australian land mass while the Atlantis killer destroyed Atlantis which happened to be the central metropolis of earth and maybe the center of the earth at the time.
What is so mysterious about Ayers rock when you consider how billy answered my question in Q&A about it is why it didn't create a gigantic crater like Apophis will do if it hit earth.
I mean its so antigravitic
Even I can make a crater just by lifting a huge rock and letting it fall to the ground but why not Ayers rock appreciable to its enormous size and just as I have theorised that Ayers rock is a broken up piece of a larger rock Mt conner which happens to have a crater around it now I am also theorising that if you analyse the whole region starting from the northern part of western Australia where Tom Price is all the way to Alice Springs you notice scars and remnant of much larger body which Ayers rock and Mt conner just happens to be but a little piece of which rolled out of from point of impact with extremely acute angle when that larger body impacted otherwise there is just no way that Ayers rock was able to maintain the integrity of its structure without it also breaking apart in smaller piece with that much kinetic power and momentum behind it from impact.
What is so interesting about Tom Price and Alice Springs is that there is a distinct reverberation form in wave like fashion as if something cataclysmic had basically moved the geology of its landscape outwards from a central point not to mention it comprising dried up salt lakes..
This begs the question
How many rocks or asteroids did the Muans use for there suicide mission and did they plan on basically destroying the entire earth and not just Atlantis?
Why didn't they use a nuclear warhead to get the job done?
Seeing as the pyramid of Giza is still left standing to this very day you can deduce from this that the whole region was safe even upon Muan asteroid impact so did the giza intelligence still hide out below the pyramids at the time that Muans suicided Atlantis?
Seeing as Australia was in the south pole at the time Atlantis was within the equatorial region and Florida being in the north pole when this event took place is there a close corrrelation between asteroid impact and the formation of natural resources in and around the vicinity of the impact zone of asteroids and meteors and if so would further research of all known asteroid impact zones reveal and back up the theory that the best exploration areas for natural resources whether on land or in the oceans is the regions closer to the impact zone of any foreign extraterrestrial objects?
Seeing as the first prophet Henoch was born not too long after this event took place you can surmise that our earth's ability to balance itself and recover from such a cataclysmic event is phenomenal so the question is if Apophis does hit earth how long would it take to recover but most important of all how long will the so called leaders of the European Union remain abjectly so braindead and stupid despite some of them already well informed about the truth regarding apophis before they finally realise that this cataclysmic event will take place in their lifetime to not do anything about it?
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1911
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 02:50 pm: |
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As everyone here knows there exists precise mathematical and astronomical alignment of significant ancient structures of earth where they intersect with one another beyond mere coincidence.
The wise ancient builders whether terrestrial or extraterrestrial were phenomenally intelligence beyond even the brightests of our modern day intellectuals.
So tapping into the wisdom of these builders along with Billy and the Plejaren I decided to add 1+1=2÷1=2×1=2.
Just follow the line I say
what do you mean?
Well to find the true location of Atlantis.
How?
The line where all the significant ancient monuments intersect.
Ok so which line are you talking about?
Ollantaytambo, , Easter Island, , , Sukhothai, Pyay, Khajuraho, Ur, Petra, giza, Preah Vihear, Machupicchu, Aneityum Island, Siwa, Persepolis, Paratoari, Nazca, Tassili n'Ajjer and Mohenjo Daro.
Now focus your attention on the Atlantic Ocean where the line crosses and within all probability somewhere within the plane of this line around the Atlantic ocean is where the former Greater Atlantis was I believe.
Just have a look at Mauritania and western sahara
look at that gigantic swath of streaks stretching for hundreds and thousands of kilometers from the west coast all the way inland of these two countries going from the south west to north east direction.
Ladies and gentlemen this is the remnant of mega tsunami having breached inland.
Follow the streak down to the Atlantic ocean and to the point where the line from the ancient sites intersects and that is where former Atlantis would most likely have been.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1912
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 03:16 pm: |
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I think when Billy says that Azores is where Atlantis was I think that that is just part of the story as ancient accounts of Atlantis depicts a place the size of a continent rather than something equivalent to Tokyo, NY, Sydney, paris or Berlin.
You have to factor in the information that is still pending and not revealed.
Obviously its up to people to put the two and two together to get seven after finding the other missing three to add to.
Even just looking at the gigantic scar under the Atlantic ocean from google earth around azores all the way up and down from north atlantic right down to the south atlantic you could clearly see just how much damage the muan asteroid has done to that region and how bad intentions coupled with thirst for might and epic Gewalt could leave a lasting legacy for future generations to ponder why its important to live in peace, love, harmony and freedom.
Millions of people would've perished from the wars fought between greater and lesser Atlaneans against Muans and we could truly say that that was the First World War.
Matt lee |
Hugo
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Post Number: 618
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 06:07 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I think Billy may be wrong on this occasion suggesting that Ayers Rock is probably be a meteor because I doubt as it could be as it is made entirely of sandstone, the same type as in most of Australia.
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Dear Billy
I was wondering observing Australia's ayers rock from satellite images, it made me wonder whether this natural monument is actually not natural at all because seeing it from the sky, it looks like a face sideways looking into the direction of Europe and middle east where a lot of the other mysterious monuments are including that of giza pyramids and so on.
So is ayers rock an artificially constructed monument or is it all natural?
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Billy has no knowledge of it being an artificial monument. It probably is a meteor that is laying on the surface of a gigantic crater. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1042
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 08:52 pm: |
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Hugo,
I tend to agree with you. Something of that size would surely have penetrated very deeply into the earth. But who knows?
Chris
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1914
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 04, 2019 - 11:08 pm: |
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Hi Hugo
Yeah you may be right Hugo
Who knows
Even if its not of extraterrestrial origin its still a mystery as to how a giant sandstone rock could stand alone out there out in the middle of nowhere with deep striations facing the same direction
What could have created these surface marks I wonder?
Could Ayers Rock at some point have been under water as there are many indications of water erosions on the base of this structure that is not created by rainfall.
But if billy is correct then this means that Ayers Rock is just tip of the iceberg and there exists a humongous structure attached to it underneath it and if indeed Ayers rock had been partially submerged under water then this explains why the gigantic crater had been filled with soil through the tide system which explains why we don't see the gigantic crater billy was talking about.
What do you think?
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 937
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 11:37 am: |
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Regarding Ayers Rock in Australia; the aforementioned are all good theories of clear thinking. There is still another possibility that no one has mentioned yet.
We all know that when an asteroid (MU Driven) enters Earth’s atmosphere there is a tremendous heat buildup within the object. It’s conceivable that the Atlantis Destroyer Asteroid (ADA) broke apart as well, parts of it possible hit Africa, Greenland and elsewhere, breaking apart as heat was building up inside the asteroid took place.
The other possibility is that this Atlantis Destroyer Asteroid exploded near the Earth’s surface sending what we know today as Ayers Rock in a lateral and slightly upward direction and landing on the continent of Australia over 11,500 years ago which would not leave much of an impact depression as compared to a direct asteroid strike?
When this ADA dropped on the Australian landmass, it was followed by a huge tsunami created by the destruction of Atlantis itself, removing much of the telltale signs of its origin?
Kenneth
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Hugo
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Post Number: 619
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 06:09 pm: |
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Hi Newinitiation and Kenneth,
I don't know but if Ayers Rock was made of mineral rich material like most/all meteors are made of I might believe it was a meteor impact but as it stands A/R is made of sandstone which is common throughout Australia. On top of that sandstone is a soft stone which would either break apart entering Earths atmosphere or certainly break apart on impact. Also, even if we discount that and assume it hit and landed there intact and with a softer landing as Kenneth mentioned there would surely still be an impact crater because of it's size and also especially seeing as this event in question is only ten of thousands of years old. There are smaller impact craters around world that are millions of years old and are still there. If Ayers Rock was a meteor impact it would have left an enormous crater many miles wide. For those reasons above I believe Billy is likely wrong on this occasion saying it was probably a meteor impact. No one is always right. |
Votan
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Post Number: 895
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 09:07 pm: |
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Kenneth
The only problem with this is the structure of the rock.
i have been there many times and it is not a asteroid.
joe
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 939
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 06:47 am: |
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All,
Good information and feedback regarding Ayers Rock; I've been to Australia, but not the rock.
Thank you
Kenneth |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 832
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 09:19 am: |
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Dutchsinse often talks about antipodes on his earthquake channel. It seems that whenever there is an earthquake another appears at the antipode. When Atlantis was sunk and cracked open the earth's crust, the antipode of Atlantis is Australia. Could the asteroid have shot right through the earth to arrive as Ayers Rock???
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 940
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 09:31 pm: |
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Justsayno,
Very interesting information, I doubt that the Asteroid punched through the Earth to Australia, but there could have been a domino effect that pushed up a portion of Earth from below Australia?
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1915
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 10:41 pm: |
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Good observation Kenneth
I tend to think that its highly likely too.
There are so many things that are wrong with mainstream version of history and the truth is kept hidden to this day by the gate lockers.
You would be hard pressed to find anywhere even in the alternative circles engaging in this type of conversations let alone ask the type of queries and questions that we do here.
We are trend setting for the future generations thanks to Billy and the Plejaren & federation members.
Why I think the questions about Apophis, our ancient history and any other related matter needed to be asked is simple in that we need to get our facts straight about everything under the sun moving forward and there is so much revision that needs to be made and inaccuracies rectified especially about our true history and that of our past.
Whatever the facts are related to Ayer Rock, Atlantis and Apophis one thing is clear the silent or quiet revolution of truth is indeed well and truly underway and as we progress onwards there will be no stone left unturned even a giant one like ayers rock.
I am stretching the longest bow I've ever done here after all these years participating on this forum but what if, even as remote as it may be, that somehow Ayers rock was just simply placed there deliberately by our extraterrestrial ancestors after procuring a part of malona from the asteroid belt and bringing it back to earth for the future generations to solve the riddle.
As most people know the devil marble is also one anomaly near ayers rock that indicates some anomalous forces having positioned these rocks strategically in such a way that nature on its own could never have created it in that position and configuration so why not ayers rock if you had the technology to play a bit of mind games with for the future generations to spin their heads around with.
I am open minded enough but not to the point of delusion.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1916
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 10:59 pm: |
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Hugo you've basically ripped my thoughts straight out of my consciousness mate.
I've scoured ever nook and cranny of that area on google earth and stratched my head wondering where in the hell did that crater disappeared to as you can't see it all that clearly although Mt connner has one so for the sake of the argument that it was of ET origin could that area be covered in water before impact which would definitely have buffeted and cushioned any hard landing but even then its highly unlikely without breaking it apart because of how fast meteors travel down to earth and the kinetic forces behind it otherwise by right we should have many other mini Ayers rock strewn across the vast northern territory terrain.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1917
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 - 11:02 pm: |
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Gee sheila I thought the single bullet theory only worked on president Kennedy's head but now we have a cosmic asteroid conspiracy.
Now that was a good one
Matt lee |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1046
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 12:45 am: |
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I have to justsayno to that idea.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1918
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 07:41 am: |
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Gee sheila I thought the single bullet theory only worked on president Kennedy's head but now we have a cosmic asteroid conspiracy.
Now that was a good one
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 970
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 08:05 am: |
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Re. Origin of Ayers Rock
It may be possible that Ayers Rock came into being before the Mu asteroids hit Earth:
- Petroglyphs (from Greek Petra = Rock / Glyphe = Carving) on Mt Uluru are at least 10-12,000 years old (they could be older)
- Moreover according to Aboriginal folklore the rock was there in the “time before time” (=”Dreamtime”).
See as well post 969: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8872.html#POST85972 |
