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    Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1919 Registered: 07-2005 |
I would agree with you Bill According to the spiritual teaching everything is inextricably intertwined and interconnected in this web of life as such that everything effects and affects every other inside this one ginormous body we call Creation, one consciousness and one spirit and as we and everything is part piece of every other and visa versa within this collosal sizeable idea or its consequences thereof we thus impinge upon every other created existence within the creative laws for which cause and effect is but one of many laws. So I would say that the massive amounts of melted water, if redistributed quickly, will cause known and unknown effects to the body that houses it. I don't think that there is a precedents to all this and we have entered uncharted territory in regards to the consequences of overpopulation caused climate change and global warming. I remember Billy mentioning 'weird trajectiory around the sun' or something to that effect caused by global warming and climate change in CR somewhere so I gather that it has to do with various chemical, biological, internal, external changes having taken place on earth that is causing this to occur. If you press down on a balloon you have effectively changed everything about it inside and out I don't see how it could be any different for earth especially given that it is held in place by gravitation whilst its rotating. Irresponsible space travellers who travelled too close to a planet or planetoid have wreaked havoc in the past this according to Semjase, meaning that their propulsion system is so powerful that it could displace a planet out of orbit so I could imagine just how fragile the place that earth occupies floating around in the sea of vast open space held in place by nothing but gravitation and dark matter so I don't doubt for a moment what you've stated as it doesn'tvtake much to hurl a planet out of orbit like it was the case for Mars and Malona and soon to be Katheine. Matt lee | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 971 Registered: 04-2011 |
Yes, Matt, if we put it all together we need scientists/leaders that see climate change as a part of an overall system (rather than a separate, singular matter) that needs to be addressed and corrected. And once they are aware of the correlations they should teach this oneness and the spiritual-creative laws that underlie it. To summarize the main *) correlations: 1. CLIMATE CHANGE is triggered by OVERPOPULATION. 2. Earth quakes, volcano eruptions and the accelerating speed of our magnetic NP’s wandering towards Siberia is triggered mainly *) by CLIMATE CHANGE. So overall climate change and many of nature’s aberrations are, directly or indirectly, a consequence of OVERPOPULATION. To correct this excess We need teachers, scientists and leaders with a global awareness and responsibility, seeking a balance, seeking a sustainable world. People that do understand that ultimately it is the human consciousness that creates the world that surrounds us: M. Planck: “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Physicist/Mathematician E. Wigner: “It was not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent way without reference to consciousness.” Prof. RC Henry: “A fundamental conclusion of the new physics also acknowledges that the observer creates reality. As observers we are personally involved with the creation of our own reality. Physicists are being forced to admit that the universe is a “mental” construction.” Physicist Sir J. Jeans: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. Get over it, and accept the inarguable conclusion: The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual.” There is an urgent need to "think differently" as A. Einstein correctly points out - “A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive (and move toward higher levels).” Salome, Bill *) The other factor that may contribute to nature’s aberrations may be our SOL’s DYING SUN: It loses its ”pulling power” - which may be the reason why our ninth planet (Kathein) is escaping. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 975 Registered: 04-2011 |
A HIROSHIMA N-BOMB - EVERY SECOND – FOR 75 YEARS … UK’s "Daily Mail" explaining the amount of man-made *) heat absorbed by world’s oceans: -Between 1865 and 1997 (=132 years) world’s oceans absorbed 150 zetta *) joules (which would amount to about 1 zettajoule per year). -In the 18 years between 1997 and 2015 world’s oceans absorbed another 150 zetta joules (more than 8 zettajoules per year). How much energy are world's oceans absorbing? If we explode 1 Hiroshima A-bomb EVERY SECOND FOR A WHOLE YEAR it would release TWO ZETTAJOULES of energy. IOW – in the 18 years between 1997 and 2015 - Earth oceans absorbed more heat energy than exploding a Hiroshima N-bomb - every second – for 75 years! To all appearances - we are in “hot water(s)” … ----------------------------------------- *) The article mentions “man-made heat” and “climate change” but does not point at overpopulation being the major cause of global warming. **) 1 zetta joule = 1 sextillion joule = (1 billion trillion=) 1 000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules ------------------------------------------ Some of the related articles in recent discussions: - Re. melting polar ice leading to the slowing of ocean currents and climate change being a major factor for the increase in earthquakes, volcanic eruptions the acceleration of magnetic NP wandering towards Siberia and ”tsunami-like” gravity waves rushing into outer space: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/16323.html#POST85863 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/16323.html#POST85851 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16322.html#POST85970 Re. the huge cavity in Antarctica’s Thwaites Glacier and predictions re. the “breaking up of conditions in the South Pacific” being the start of many “changes in the Earth’s activity”. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16322.html#POST85942 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16322.html#POST85947 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/15930.html#POST83918 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16322.html#POST85953 ------------------------------------- « … Earth’s major religion’s do not provide it and our schools do not educate it, ... but there is an urgent need to see all existence in oneness, as a whole, just like we see our body as a whole rather than an assembly of organs and cells…” | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 943 Registered: 04-2013 |
Tat_tvam_asi, Wow, excellent detailed information pertaining to Global Warming, aka “Climate Change”. I’ve had to opportunity to personally inspect a few of the glaciers in and around Alaska. What’s happening is so obvious, but many (scientists included) have a very difficult time connecting the dots! Too many do not understand the overpopulation issue correctly. Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1927 Registered: 07-2005 |
I agree with Kenneth Good effort Bill You definitely are a piece maker By that I mean you create great food for thought and mountains of pieces of the jigsaw puzzle. In regards to the global warming issue I wonder if the bell shaped negative thought energy, oscillation or vibratory accumulant around earth from our vast over numbered human beings living on earth have any type of influence to the climate change and global warming? I wonder what the correlation is to the global warming crisis and whether hyper frequency thought waves of negativity can and do impact and influence earth and people's psychological state? I wonder whether it's because of more people than ever is living on earth hence more negative hyper frequency thought waves accumulating around earth that is overburdening and overloading the earth and all related natural processes? I wonder if there exist a close correlation between some of the inexplicably mysteries events happening all around the world and negative hyperfrquency thought waves that has accumulated around the earth for that to occur? Billy stated that due to overpopulation people are becoming more aggressive hence why we keep seeing more violent crimes happening all over the place so would this statement have any relevance to the theory that human beings having an inherent self destruct button being triggered by immense negative hyper frequency vibration coming off of so many people all over the world in such a way that some people who are sensitive to it can no longer take it anymore thus compelling them to go on a shooting rampage or creating various other acts of terror against their fellow human beings? Obviously stinking hot days as well as blisteringly cold ones effect the mood of people so due to climate change and global warming I wonder if in fact the chaotic instability and inconsistency of the weather does indeed effect the mental and psychical health of the people in such a way that people are becoming more mentally unstable, moody, aggressive, indifferent, erratic, unbalanced and suicidal? I wonder if due to climate change and global warming induced by the ticking-time-bomb overpopulation, the electromagnetic, right down to the spiritual energetic level of the material plane on earth has inexorably changed in such a way that the clash of one EM frequecy in some parts of earth is clasing with other EM frequecy in other parts of earth in such a way that it is creating weird trumpet sound heard all around the earth and loud booms heard right across the many different countries? We've all been warned about the dangers of 4G 5G and in the future 6G and 7G digital communication network which is harmful to organic lifeforms due to the destructive effects of cellphone and other ionizing radiation coming off of electromagnetic frequency and pulses that break down DNA. Although I've written about this last decade if my memory serves me correct, what if these artificial electromagnetic frquency based systems are themselves heating up our atmosphere and as never been recorded in earth's entire history, there are more EMF generating devices all around the world than the entire history of man in all recorded history. So what we are essentially doing with our home appliances to smart phones and the plethora of other consumer goods as well as the military equipment and systems are that we are essentially frying not only our brains, ovaries and testicles every time we have our phones in our back or front pockets but we are also unwittingly microwave cooking everything around us including our atmosphere. No wonder The heat is on, on the street Inside your head, on every beat And the beat's so loud, deep inside The pressure's high, just to stay alive 'Cause the heat is on. Glenn Frey Matt lee | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 491 Registered: 10-2016 |
Bill, Post #975 is superb. Keep up the good work! :-) Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth" ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt." 22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them." | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1931 Registered: 07-2005 |
Global warming = global warning | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 976 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank YOU. Salome, Bill | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 977 Registered: 04-2011 |
That is … Thank you, Kenneth, Matt and Corey. I, too, thank you, for your many excellent inspirations and posts. Salome, Bill | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1935 Registered: 07-2005 |
In regards to Michael's recent article 'Directed energy weapon or methane' I would just like to bring up a few points to consider. BTW Great finding Randy and your efforts to inform the as yet uninformables. I would like to point out one thing for your consideration. I would've preferred Michael's heading of this article be 'Directed Energy Weapons or Methane or both? Just a few question to start why do criminals or pranksters douse gasoline or any other variants of accelerants to any premise or object in which they want to burn down or burn up? Well the intention is to start a fire Yet a fire does not burn on its own accord nor does a match or a lighter light up on its own. There are various factors needing consideration to start a fire. Firstly you need an intent with a specific purpose in mind followed by action to realising it. Secondly you can't start a fire without an initial spark in the form of a device that can do that which in most likely case is with a bic lighter or a match. Thirdly no amount of accelerant in the world will ignite on its own therefore you need someone or somebody to initially set the accelerants off with a device that can set off a spark. Fourthly nature could set the fire off from stray lightening bolt to the lense effect of the sun which then eliminates 3 other previous factors I have outlined Now we have to consider so many variables, factors, the known unknowns, the unknown unkowns, the unknown knowns, and the known knowns. There are multitudinal factors at play here in regards to the massive californian fires which is happening every year but as arahat athersata said to the effect that if you have the effect or a consequence of something you can trace that back to its original causes through the consideration of the effect of that cause and visa versa. So simply put look at what has happened, consider what the nature of what took place and find out how it happened by observing the evidence and let the truth and proof of the evidence speak to you rather than trying to fit the proof to your preconceived ideas, notions, prejudices, learned response and pavlovian conditioning . In the case of DEW there are many factors of this californian fires that points to this as being one of the culprits. I can't do it justice with this relatively short post to outline all the proof and evidence to back up the claim that the fires were started by DEW but as the cliche goes people have to do their own research, think for themselves with their own brains and effort of will and then come to their own independent conclusions through deductive reasoning and the application of logic. As big as California is with million of people living there there must be many contributing factors that started the fires and whole host of many combination of factors all adding to it including copy cat fire starters to kids with lighters or burners setting the fires in some part of california to many others including DEW. Global warming= Global harming Global warming= Global deforming Global warming= Global warping Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1937 Registered: 07-2005 |
Just driving from work and something clicked. no it wasn't my battery going dead or the starter motor breaking up but the oppressive heat radiating from the steel body of my bonnet telling my brain this is one of the reason why there is global warming. I thought some more about this and remembered why billy was recommending people not to drive our motor vehicles unnecessarily unless its for work and other important reasons and to stop all types of motor vehicles races and competitions. Steel by the nature of its properties absorbs heat very quickly and has a high thermal conductivity. most motor vehicles are made of steel. Now according to some estimates there are over 1 billion motor vehicles of all types on the roads around the world. now this is a staggering number. not only because of the amount of fossil fuel that it burns up and the emission of toxic gases which includes carbon dioxide but the amount of heat it generates and absorbs from the sun. Anyone here who has ever driven a car on a hot summer's day will know what I am talking about the heat is just so so so oppressive especially if you decide not to turn on the aircon to save on fuel and to lower your emission by just winding the windows down. on some days the inside temperature of your car could reach 60 degrees plus if left parked outside on a hot summer's day for hours. my goodness anyway this logic could basically extend to all manmade stuff which could include houses, paved roads, highrise buildings, bitumen road, steel bridges, airports, cities, roofs, power stations, stadiums, railways, refineries, plants of all types and anything and everything manmade that traps and radiates thermal heat. also by extension of felling of trees you create desertification which also aborbs and generates enormous amount of heat from the sand which also adds to global warming. imagine if nature was left as it is without all this manmade buildup how prestine and beautiful it would be and how the natural order was maintained as it was intended to be with the sky as clear blue as it can be and the seas as see through as it was meant to be and apples that last as long as the late guido moosbruggers plejaren apple in a jar. I think the neanderthals had it better when they were alive in terms of the prestineness of the environment than us modern homosapiens who must tolerate choking on noxious gases and artificial overcast days where you can't tell the difference between whether its going to rain or its just blanket of pollution from china being wind driven to your city. anyway i hate the traffic. Matt lee | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 221 Registered: 04-2008 |
Matt, how come you detest comas? Also why do you insist on not capitalizing your last name? That gets me heated that you feel the need to lower yourself like that and it contributes to global warming. Tien | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1939 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hehe I avoid commas to lower my footprint and in this case my fingerprint and speaking of low I like to stay low just incase the air got bad up there As for it contributing to global warming I'll try not to fart next time I am down there squatting. I am usually writing my post on a fly so excuse me for my grammatical expediency and convenient omissions Tien MATT LEE how's that | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 988 Registered: 04-2011 |
CLIMATE CHANGE VIA MANIPULATION OF EARTH’S ATMOSPHERE - …? The latest ZZ (115) mentions in an article re the climate summit in Poland (Katowice) the " cost-effective and technical feasible solution" submitted by US researchers: A fleet of (ca. 100) aircraft would, via initially 4000 missions per year, for 15 years, spray sulphur particles in the earth’s atmosphere to create a shield against solar radiation. The aircraft would have the size of international commercial passenger aircraft. They would operate from an international base, so secrecy would not be possible. Source of the idea: Lowell Wood … Yale and Harvard tested the idea. Result: technically possible, cost 2 – 2.5 billion US$ per year) “Basically, the project is an imitation of a volcanic eruption, in which mass sulphur particles are ejected which shield the earth against solar radiation. A dramatic example of this was the Icelandic volcanic eruption in 1783 (which “cooled” the northern hemisphere by 1.5 oC) The American Meteorological Society, however, has warned for years not to implement any plans of imitating volcanic eruptions stating that such measures may not only lower Earth’s average temperature but may change wind flows and precipitation patterns: “The effects of the artificially created sunshade would certainly not affect all nations and populations equally - some regions could be flooded others become deserts.” The German “Bundeswehr” (Germany’s Defence Forces) come to a similar assessment. “… efficacy, side effects and risk, especially for large scale (global) application cannot be adequately estimated… “ “Against this background it is particularly significant that many methods are interventions in ecosystems, global air and ocean circulation systems, the interaction of which is still not fully understood today.” Footnote: Given Harry Lear’s discovery of the correct Pi value – as being “here and now” - we mentioned as the next event in the possible sequence of CR251 predictions *) CR 251:244-246: It tells us that Earth scientists may use a climate weapon. But this will cause temperatures to fall so drastically that even the oceans will freeze… -------------------------- *) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85776 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16247.html#POST85777 | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 989 Registered: 04-2011 |
NB To access the hyperlinks: - Highlight and Copy the Hyperlink - Right-click MS's "Edge" top-textbox (containing the words "Search or enter web address") - From the drop down menu click "Paste and go" (Any other browsing method did not directly open the referenced article) | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1025 Registered: 04-2013 |
Global Warming and Climate Change: NASA Astronaut Piers Sellers’ last message before his death from pancreatic cancer. For a short video of Sellers. Search Piers John Sellers, NASA astronaut; third line down, “This is astronaut Piers Sellers' last message before his death ...” The apparent plot for telling the truth; billionaires and oil companies contrive to make honest scientists look ridiculous and as affluent characters lining their pockets for extra riches. This we know could not be further from the truth! In his message, Sellers describes Earth as a “beautiful planet” and speaks about how the planet and the life it supports have evolved “to fit each other perfectly.” However, humanity’s clear and measurable impact on the climate has the potential to wreak “potentially disastrous” results. He calls for groups such as scientists, policymakers, and industrialists to work together towards the common goal of maintaining the Earth as “a planet that can continue to support life...”  Kenneth | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1054 Registered: 04-2013 |
Fox News published an interesting news article about “Climate Change” and Global Warming? Interestingly, this timeline indicated is very close to when Billy and the Plejaren said that a massive asteroid impacted a land-mass (Atlantis) in the Northern Hemispheres Atlantic Ocean between North America, Greenland & Africa. All that is left today are the Azores Islands. This impact was so powerful that it tilted the Earth axis a few degrees causing climatic changes, floods, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tsunamis and much more... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Headlines: Increased Antarctic sea ice may have contributed to past ice ages; October 30, 2019 Upside-down "rivers" of warm ocean water may be one of the causes of Antarctica's ice shelves breaking up, leading to a rise in sea levels. But a new study suggests an increase in sea ice may lead to a much more devastating change in the Earth's climate — another ice age. Using computer simulations, the research suggests that an increase in sea ice could significantly alter the circulation of the ocean, ultimately leading to a reverse greenhouse effect as carbon dioxide levels in the ocean increase and levels in the air decrease. One key question in the field is still what caused the Earth to periodically cycle in and out of ice ages,” University of Chicago professor and the study's co-author, Malte Jansen, said in a statement. “We are pretty confident that the carbon balance between the atmosphere and ocean must have changed, but we don’t quite know how or why."  A new study by UChicago scientists show how an increase in Antarctic sea ice could trigger a chain of events leading to an ice age. Image courtesy of Yvonne Firing. The last major ice age ended at the end of the Pleistocene era, about 2.5 million years ago, as glaciers have periodically grown and then gotten smaller. Researchers believe that changes to the Earth's orbit may be partly responsible for some of the Earth's cooling, but additional factors have likely played a part, Jensen added. “The most plausible explanation is that there was some change in how carbon was divided between the atmosphere and the ocean,” Jansen continued. “There’s no shortage of ideas about how this happens, but it’s not quite clear how they all fit together.” Researchers also believe a mini-ice age may have occurred roughly 12,800 years ago. It likely stems from an asteroid impact that "rocked the Northern Hemisphere" and led to the Younger Dryas climate event. Jansen pointed out that the Southern Ocean around Antarctica "plays a key role in ocean circulation" due to the deep waters in the region, leading it to have "outsize[d] consequences." “What this suggests is that it’s a feedback loop,” said the study's lead author, Alice Marzocchi. “As the temperature drops, less carbon is released into the atmosphere, which triggers more cooling.” “What surprised me is how much of this increased storage can be attributed to physical changes alone, with Antarctic sea-ice cover being the key player,” Marzocchi added, noting that future study of the ocean and the role it plays in the carbon cycle can help simulate "future environmental change.” Kenneth | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 547 Registered: 02-2010 |
Kenneth,well now of course everyone is talking about global warming due to Greta (the new celebrity), yet do nothing much about it. It's the trending topics until after the elections. I've canceled my cable service until after the elections maybe longer MsMichelle | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1059 Registered: 04-2013 |
To view this entire article, search; “NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit, and NOT because of SUVs and fossil fuels.” Friday, August 30, 2019 by: Ethan Huff. This is a new twist on Global Warming – Climate Change; I suspect that Ethan Huff is correct in his final analysis ?  For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom. Based on these different variables, Milankovitch was able to come up with a comprehensive mathematical model that is able to compute surface temperatures on earth going way back in time, and the conclusion is simple: Earth’s climate has always been changing, and is in a constant state of flux due to no fault of our own as human beings.  As for earth’s obliquity, or its change in axial tilt, the below two images (Robert Simmon, NASA GSFC) show the degree to which the earth can shift on both its axis and its rotational orientation. At the higher tilts, earth’s seasons become much more extreme, while at lower tilts they become much milder.  Conclusion, IMO: NASA knows the truth, so why all this BS. Something bigger is actually going on; it usually boils down to money and control! The last few paragraphs in the article says it all: "But rather than embrace this truth, today’s climate “scientists,” joined by leftist politicians and a complicit mainstream media, insist that not using reusable grocery bags at the supermarket and not having an electric vehicle are destroying the planet so quickly that we absolutely must implement global climate taxes as the solution." “The climate change debate is not about science. It is an effort to impose political and economic controls on the population by the elite,” wrote one commenter at the Hal Turner Radio Show." “And it’s another way to divide the population against itself, with some who believe in man-made global warming and some who don’t, i.e. divide and conquer.” Kenneth | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 715 Registered: 07-2006 |
@Kenneth, If you are actually interested in understanding FIGU's view of environmental protection (which it appears you call BS) I would strongly suggest you take the time to read and study the following articles: Environmental Protection is a Human Duty (Umweltschutz ist Menschenpflicht) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=fxasmJyau9o%3d&tabid=267&portalid=0 A Surreptitious Environmental Catastrophe - The Desert Will Win (Schleichende Umweltkatastrophe – Die Wüste wird siegen) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=-5oOmjP1vSE%3d&tabid=268&portalid=0 Environmental Protection (Umweltschutz) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=OS6kOPfmKu8%3d&tabid=269&portalid=0 The Last Tree Will Fall (Der letzte Baum wird fallen) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=B9QM2ProVdw%3d&tabid=270&portalid=0 Shortage and Destruction of the life-source Water (Verknappung und Zerstörung des Lebensquells Wasser) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=hTBQmkjpb0k%3d&tabid=271&portalid=0 Overpopulation and Climate Change (Überbevölkerung und Klimawandel) at: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=qzbs9ITheXk%3d&tabid=272&portalid=0 These are all English translations originally from the FIGU Switzerland website and may help you understand what science/scientists has/have not yet recognized. Hope this helps PatM | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 716 Registered: 07-2006 |
@Kenneth, My apology for misunderstanding the context of your last post. This may appear before or after my last post (depending on the posting queue). -Sorry PatM | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 746 Registered: 04-2015 |
Kenneth, here in Australia disposable plastic bags are now illegal for any shop to handout with big fines if any do so. We all have to bring our reusable bags when we go shopping. It's like climate destruction is all blamed on the bag with our leaders patting themselves on their backs for bringing this law in. Never hear a peep from any of our politicians or MSM that overpopulation may be to blame. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1059 Registered: 04-2013 |
Patm, Your response confused me for a bit? No problem though, misunderstands happen. The original article written by Ethan Huff had of a little different slant; nonetheless, Mr. Huff points out that NASA, big business and maybe various governments are for the most part misleading the public. I find good and truthful information in EVERY situation; that being said, thank you very much for the links to the six different but related sites, this will keep me occupied for some time. I will read all of them. To be clear, everything that SSSC, FIGU, BEAM and other authorized sites and organizations make available, I would never call BS. I’m 110% with all of you folks. Sincerely, Peace on Earth, and among all beings Salome Kenneth |
