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Hoota_thunk
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Post Number: 47
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'Day Chris,
I am willing to wager 1 trillion dollars (that I don't actually have; let's call it Monopoly money) that before the turn of the century, the Red Wave, the anti-infidel wave or the Apophis wave will have trimmed that "estimated" population down to a much lower total than you, I or anyone else of this planet (bar 1) can imagine!
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Silent Revolution Of Truth -
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Cpl
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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2018 - 06:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hoota,

It's not lower than I can imagine. It's a done deal, by the looks of things, that our global population will be vastly reduced by the end of the century. Please note that I was only citing a popular researched projection - it is not my projection.

Our challenge is that we need to take the population down humanely: voluntary or legally mandated limits to births as detailed by Billy and the Pejaren and covered throughout this forum thread.
Chris

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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, August 31, 2018 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, Chris,

It’s very possible that the population of Planet Earth will be reduced before the politicians and religious ones get a clue as to why Terra can only support 523 million folks? I’ve conversed with many people regarding over population, including what natural resources replenishes itself without artificial interference? I either get a blank stare back or the response is, “interesting, but need more proof!” “Look at all the vacant land worldwide, Overpopulation is fake news”.

If we Earthlings do not get our act together, 99942-Apophis (Red Meteor) will correct the overpopulation issue! From my observation, Apophis, the True Pi calculation of 3.144605511 and Overpopulation has pretty much turned into a political football. Nonetheless, this mighty red rock will send Earth population back into a nuclear ice age, destroying much life on Earth.

There are currently over 450 nuclear power plants in operation, worldwide today; if Apophis strikes the Eurasian tectonic plate between the North Sea and the Black sea, (in 2029 or 2036) there could potentially be 450, Chernobyl / Fukushima type meltdowns adding much radiation to the debris that Apophis sends into the atmosphere. You’re correct, this is not the type of population reduction that we want!

Had an opportunity this last weekend (August 25-26), talking to many folks about the Apophis asteroid and Overpopulation; it appeared that some logical thinking for oneself was turned on? None of these folks previously had a clue. Time will tell!

Kenneth
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Hoota_thunk
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Posted on Friday, August 31, 2018 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'Day Chris,

I hear ya, on the humane way of reducing the population. I haven't had any kids myself (that I know of ) and not only because I can't actually give birth, but I look at what I put my parents through and thought it best to put this family name to rest.
Andrew Grimshaw
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Cpl
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Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2018 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hear you too, Hoota.
Any children being born today are going to have their work very seriously cut out for them.

Kenneth,
Apophis will let all hell lose. It won't just be a mini ice age for a few weeks or months, but also initially the day the earth burns as an oven. As the ejecta re-enters the atmosphere and lands in Europe and Russia, ground temperatures will hit 400 degrees C. Yes, all the nuclear power stations will be a tremendous problem, many will end up in the oceans and people won't be able to monitor that contamination. With the shifting, splitting plates and mega earthquakes there's also La Palma and Cascadia that will probably go too, if not before.
As Billy says, we -- at least the people on the surface -- will be sent back to the dark ages.

There is no alternative: Apophis must be pushed off course! We need to solve the population problem in a far better way.
Chris

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Patm
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Posted on Monday, September 03, 2018 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FIGU Online-Survey (FIGU Online-Umfrage)

-------- SURVEY ON THE TOPIC OVERPOPULATION ---------------------------------
-------- UMFRAGE ZUM THEMA ÜBERBEVÖLKERUNG ---------------------------------

Dear female and male Reader,
Liebe Leserinnen und Leser,

On the topic Overpopulation your opinion is asked. Under the link [ http://www.figu.org/ch/node/3623] you can participate, without obligation, in our survey on the topic of Overpopulation. Please follow this link [ http://www.figu.org/ch/node/3623]
Zu dem Thema Überbevölkerung ist ihre Meinung gefragt. Unter dem Link [ http://www.figu.org/ch/node/3623 ] können sie unverbindlich an unserer Umfrage zu dem Thema Überbevölkerung teilnehmen. Bitte leitet diesen Link weiter. [ http://www.figu.org/ch/node/3623]

with friendliest Greetings,
Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
FIGU Schweiz
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CH-8495 Hinterschmidrueti

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When you are ready to take the survey, go to :
The Survey - http://www.figu.org/ch/node/3623


The following are the survey questions (it is a 'yes or no' survey).
It is recommended that those wishing to participate please review the questions prior to actually taking the survey (it will help speed up the process) (note the actual survey is currently only in German). Don't forget to SAVE/Speichern when you finish!


-------------------Questions------------------------------


1
Das Bevölkerungswachstum bzw. die Überbevölkerung (rund 100 Mio. Menschen mehr pro Jahr) ist das grundlegende Problem aller anderen Grossprobleme auf der Erde.
The population growth and/or overpopulation (around 100 million human beings more per year) is the fundamental problem of all other great problems on the earth.


2
Das Problem betrifft nur die Schwellenländer bzw. die ‹dritte Welt› inkl. China und Indien usw.
The problem pertains only to the developing countries and/or the 'third world' inclusive China and India, etc.


3
Auch in Europa leben zu viele Menschen.
Too many human beings also live in Europe.


4
Die Erde kann problemlos viele weitere Milliarden Menschen verkraften.
The earth can bear problem-free many further thousand-million human beings.


5
Würden alle Lebensmittel gerecht verteilt, dann wäre für die Erde das Problem minimalisiert.
If all food was fairly distributed, then the problem would be minimized for the earth.


6
Die Schulung/Bildung von Frauen in Drittweltländern (insbesondere in Afrika) führt automatisch zu einer Senkung der Geburtenraten.
The education of women in third-world-countries (especially in Africa) automatically leads to a lowering of birth-rates.


7
Dass immer mehr Menschen (und Haustiere) immer mehr Nahrung und Ressourcen benötigen/verbrauchen, ist klar, aber es ist kein Problem, denn der technische Fortschritt wird alles schon zum Guten richten.
It is clear that always more human beings (and domestic animals) requires/uses up always more nourishment and resources, however it is not a problem, because the technical progress is already turning everything for the good.


8
Die stetige Zunahme der irdischen Bevölkerung und deren Verhalten tragen erheblich zur Klimaveränderung bei.
The continuous increase of the terrestrial population and their behaviors contribute substantially to the climate change.


9
Das enge Zusammenleben in Städten, Agglomerationen und Slums etc. kann negative Auswirkung auf die Psyche und Gesundheit usw. haben (‹Dichtestress›) sowie Egoismus, Gleichgültigkeit gegenüber den Mitmenschen und Aggressionen usw. fördern.
The close the cohabitation in towns, agglomerations and slums, etc., can have negative outcoming effects on the psyche and health, etc. ('density stress') as well as furthers egoism, indifference in relation to the fellow human beings and aggressions, etc.


10
Die Überfischung der Meere, die Übernutzung von urbarem Land und Süsswasser sowie die Vergiftung von Boden und Atmosphäre usw. mit Chemikalien, Abgasen und Strahlung usw. hängt zusammen mit der stetig steigenden Anzahl Menschen (= Konsumenten).
The overfishing of the oceans, the excessive use of arable country and fresh water as well as the poisoning of soil and atmosphere, etc. with chemicals, exhaust gases and radiation, etc., hangs together with the continuous rising number of human beings (= consumer).


11
Die Flüchtlingsmigration in die sog. industrialisierten Länder ist ein echtes Problem.
The refugee migration into the so-called industrialized countries is a genuine problem.


12
Weltweit wird das Flüchtlingswesen stetig zunehmen (wegen Kriegen, Umweltkatastrophen, Ansteigen der Ozeane, usw.).
Worldwide the refugee-Wesen will continuously increase (because of wars, environment disasters, rising of the oceans, etc.).


13
Die Vermischung der Völker und Kulturen im grossen Stil und in hoher Anzahl führt in jedem Fall zu Problemen.
The blending of the peoples and cultures on a large scale and in high number leads to problems in every case.


14
Eine Reduktion der Erdbevölkerung ist dringend notwendig.
A reduction of the earth population is urgently necessary.


15
Die einzige humane Massnahme zur Erreichung dieses Zieles ist eine Reduktion der Geburtenzahlen bzw. Vermeidung der Zeugung von Nachwuchs.
The single humane measure for the achievement of this culmination-point is a reduction of the birth rates and/or avoidance of procreation of offspring.


16
Für Menschen mit Kinderwunsch müssen Grundvoraussetzungen gegeben sein, wie z.B. Erziehungsfähigkeit, angemessene Wohnsituation, optimale und sichere Ernährung, stabiles Einkommen, usw.
For human beings with the wish to have children, basic prerequisites must be given, as, e.g., upbringing-education ability, appropriate living situation, optimal and assured diet, stable income, etc.


17
Die maximale Anzahl Nachkommen pro Frau darf 3 Kinder nicht übersteigen.
The maximum number of descendants per woman may not exceed 3 children.


18
Jeder Mensch hat ein uneingeschränktes Recht, eigene Nachkommen zu zeugen bzw. zu gebären, also auch Alkoholkranke, Süchtige, Verbrecher, Terroristen usw.
Every human being has an unconstrained right to procreate and/or bear one's own descendants, thus also alcoholics, addicts, felons, terrorists, etc.


19
Das Recht eines Kindes auf fähige, liebevolle und gesunde Eltern geht dem Kinderwunsch seitens Erwachsener vor.
The right of a child to capable, loving and healthy parents precedes the wish to have children on the part of adults.


20
Bereits Kinder müssen über die Themen Schwangerschaft, Geburt, Leben, Tod und Trauer usw. aufgeklärt bzw. informiert werden.
Already children must be knowing and/or informed about the topics of pregnancy, birth, life, death and sorrow, etc.


21
Religiöser Glaube fördert zumindest tendenziell das Bevölkerungswachstum.
Religious believers at the very least tendentiously further the population growth.


22
Es soll eine ‹Internationale Friedenskampftruppe› geschaffen werden, die in allen Ländern dafür sorgt, dass Diktaturen aufgelöst und parasitäre Regierungssysteme unterbunden werden, damit die Bevölkerungen in den einzelnen Ländern eine gerechte Gesellschaft aufbauen können, was beinhaltet, dass die eigene Bevölkerungszahl entsprechend angepasst wird.
An 'International Peace-Fighting Troops' is supposed to be created,
which provides in all countries for that, which eliminates dictatorships and prohibits parasitic systems of government, therewith the populations in the individual countries can build up a fair society, which includes, that the one's own population number becomes corresponding adapted.


23
Grundsätzlich ist jedes Land in erster Linie für das Wohl der eigenen Bevölkerung verantwortlich, weshalb sogenannte Entwicklungshilfe ausschliesslich auf Selbsthilfe und Eigenbefähigung ausgerichtet sein soll (also keine Hungerhilfe beinhalten soll, die langfristig die Probleme nur vergrössert).
Fundamentally every country is first and foremost responsible for the well-being of the one's own population, which is why the so-called development-assistance (foreign-aid) is supposed to solely be intended on self-help and self-competence (thus no famine relief is supposed to be included,
which on a long-term basis the problems only expand).


24
Dem Thema Überbevölkerung wird in der Politik, Religion und in den Medien genügend Platz eingeräumt.
The topic overpopulation is granted sufficient space in the politics, religions and in the media


25
Das Thema Überbevölkerung und insbesondere damit verbundene Lösungen sind nach wie vor ein grosses Tabu.
The topic overpopulation and in particular the therewith connected solutions are still a big taboo.

What I still want to say: (Was ich noch sagen will:-): [text field]

- Voluntary disclosure (Freiwillige Angaben)
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---- Male (männlich)
---- Female (weiblich)

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31 - 50 (31 bis 50)
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Corey
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Posted on Monday, September 03, 2018 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just today FIGU-Swiss released a German online survey of the theme of overpopulation.

It is at the following link:
http://www.figu.org/ch/node/3623

For your information: the online survey is only in German, but I will post the English equivalents sent to me from FIGU-Swiss, and a person can keep two windows open on their desktop, one of this forums thread showing the numbered 25 English equivalents, and one window of the survey open, and one can flip between the two open windows and can go through each of the 25 German questions one at a time, and select "yes" or "no" ("ja" oder "nein") by simply matching up the English equivalent using this very post.

1. The population growth and/or overpopulation (around 100 million human beings more per year) is the fundamental problem of all other great problems on the earth.

2. The problem pertains only to the developing countries and/or the 'third world' inclusive China and India, etc.

3. Too many human beings also live in Europe.

4. The earth can bear problem-free many further thousand-million human beings.

5. If all food was fairly distributed, then the problem would be minimized for the earth.

6. The education of women in third-world-countries (especially in Africa) automatically leads to a lowering of birth-rates.

7. It is clear that always more human beings (and domestic animals) requires/uses up always more nourishment and resources, however it is not a problem, because the technical progress is already turning everything for the good.

8. The continuous increase of the terrestrial population and their behaviors contribute substantially to the climate change.

9. The close the cohabitation in towns, agglomerations and slums, etc., can have negative outcoming effects on the psyche and health, etc. ('density stress') as well as furthers egoism, indifference in relation to the fellow human beings and aggressions, etc.

10. The overfishing of the oceans, the excessive use of arable country and fresh water as well as the poisoning of soil and atmosphere, etc. with chemicals, exhaust gases and radiation, etc., hangs together with the continuous rising number of human beings (= consumer).

11. The refugee migration into the so-called industrialized countries is a genuine problem.

12. Worldwide the refugee-Wesen will continuously increase (because of wars, environment disasters, rising of the oceans, etc.).

13. The blending of the peoples and cultures on a large scale and in high number leads to problems in every case.

14. A reduction of the earth population is urgently necessary.

15. The single humane measure for the achievement of this culmination-point is a reduction of the birth rates and/or avoidance of procreation of offspring.

16. For human beings with the wish to have children, basic prerequisites must be given, as, e.g., upbringing-education ability, appropriate living situation, optimal and assured diet, stable income, etc.

17. The maximum number of descendants per woman may not exceed 3 children.

18. Every human being has an unconstrained right to procreate and/or bear one's own descendants, thus also alcoholics, addicts, felons, terrorists, etc.

19. The right of a child to capable, loving and healthy parents precedes the wish to have children on the part of adults.

20. Already children must be knowing and/or informed about the topics of pregnancy, birth, life, death and sorrow, etc.

21. Religious believers at the very least tendentiously further the population growth.

22. An 'International Peace-Fighting Troops' is supposed to be created,
which provides in all countries for that, which eliminates dictatorships and prohibits parasitic systems of government, therewith the populations in the individual countries can build up a fair society, which includes, that the one's own population number becomes corresponding adapted.

23. Fundamentally every country is first and foremost responsible for the well-being of the one's own population, which is why the so-called development-assistance (foreign-aid) is supposed to solely be intended on self-help and self-competence (thus no famine relief is supposed to be included,
which on a long-term basis the problems only expand).

24. The topic overpopulation is granted sufficient space in the politics, religions and in the media.

25. The topic overpopulation and in particular the therewith connected solutions are still a big taboo.
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At the end of the survey, one can leave a voluntary personal message about what you still have to say about overpopulation (Was ich noch sagen will), and voluntarily select if you are the male (männlich) gender, or the female (weiblich) gender, and what age range you belong to.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Corey
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DON'T FORGET TO: SAVE/Speichern.

One more thing, after the survey, select "speichern" which will save the survey in FIGU's database. Thanks.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Corey
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Correction and for the record,

Upon closer inspection of my email inbox, the survey came out yesterday 09/02/2018 (02/09/2018) and the translation was sent to me via the United States Online FIGU-Interest Group for Mission-Knowledge, so thanks Patm and group. Sorry if I caused any confusion. Have a great day. :-)
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Cpl
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I found question 20 a bit confusing in English. Is this question asking whether children are already informed; or conversely, that they should be informed? Some people might want to answer with: YES and NO, or NO and YES.
Chris

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Patm
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I apologize for not correctly identifying my previous post/email as my English translation of the FIGU text (which may contain errors). Sorry for the confusion this may have caused.
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Learnmore12
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Chris, From what I understand, it means that children should be aware of those things, so that they can make informed decisions in the future. Thanks.
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Cpl
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That's what I assumed it meant too, Learnmore12, that they should be helped to become aware of these things, rather than they are already aware of them.
Chris

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Justsayno
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Make sure it's legitimate by contacting the SSSC first with a fresh email to the previously known email.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Kenneth
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Not sure if anyone has viewed the site titled, “Reincarnation, History of Earth Humans, The Universal Prophet, Jmmanuel” by SKiLLsSoLoN, 8/27/2018. Ran across this by accident; nonetheless, this person goes into depth about Overpopulation. Everything he talks about is quoted right out of the Meier material. It’s very well done.

Kenneth
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Hugo
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Kenneth,

Check his (SKiLLsSoLoN) Youtube archives and you will find many good shows/discussions on Meier's spiritual teachings, especially on the Might of Thoughts and Pysche book and also Way to Live too. He (Mark Shnider) even interviewed MH on there once or twice. I have Youtube on one of those boxes hooked up to my bedroom TV and most nights I like listening to various shows there on spiritual teachings as I'm dozing off to sleep.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Great hyperlinks!
Thank you. Kenneth and Hugo.

Bill
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Newinitiation
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Aldous Huxley's prophetic interview with Mike Wallace back on May 18th, 1958 about overpopulation is simply amazing.
He may as well have quoted Billy word for word.
After 60 years no words are said truer than this possible impulse contactee that if you were to reflect on what has transpired up to present to his very words said he may as well have time travelled to the present.


YouTube video
Also is Huxley interview-1958 (full)

Matt lee
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Hoota_thunk
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Thanks for asking me to watch that video Matt.

“WALLACE: The question, of course, that keeps coming back to my mind is this: obviously politics in themselves are not evil (don’t tell MH this) , television is not in itself evil, atomic energy is not evil *), and yet you seem to fear that it will be used in an evil way. Why is it that the right people will not, in your estimation, use them? Why is it that the wrong people will use these various devices and for the wrong motives?

HUXLEY: Well, I think one of the reasons is that these are all instruments for obtaining power, and obviously the passion for power is one of the most moving passions that exists in man; and after all, all democracies are based on the proposition that power is very dangerous and that it is extremely important not to let any one man or any one small group have too much power for too long a time.

After all what are the British and American Constitution except devices for limiting power, and all these new devices are extremely efficient instruments for the imposition of power by small groups over larger masses.”


So, the any one man or any small group that has too much power for too long a time, has moved from The Government (n. The act or process of governing, especially the control and administration of public policy in a political unit.) to the so-called private company (which is usually owned by those that become or have left, The Government, which are usually lawyers or union bosses). I think of, IBM, Alphabet Inc. (google etc.), Faceplant, MSM, NASA, etc.......

I don’t wish to dissect the freedom question following this as I am unsure as to whether Wallace was actually being serious with his question or was inferring something else entirely??!!?!

*) Please search Youtube for the channel of: gordonmcdowell which covers a type of nuclear reactor that was tested and worked in the 1950's and was created by the same man that created the current weapons grade plutonium producing nuclear reactor used today and the same man said that we should use the unknown of until recently nuclear reactor for energy production for civilian purposes, obviously, the IMC/CIA won that one.

Contact Report 150 http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_150
Billy
In regards to this, I would like to set a question: Is there actually no possible way to use atomic energy without having big dangers thereby arise for humans, animals, and plants, etc.?
Quetzal
80. This possibility exists, and it is also used by us.
81. The Earth human, however, is not yet in a position to do this.
82. Nevertheless, he still works negligently and completely irresponsibly with atomic energy, whereby through this, he consciously produces deadly dangers for all life forms.
83. In every respect, nuclear energy may only be used by humans then, when all occurring substances and waste can completely riskless be utilized and processed as far, as to ensure that absolutely radiation-free matter emerges from it.
84. But this is only possible through a process of change, that changes the radioactive radiation back into the original mass, through which means the feedstock again emerges.
85. Now, if the human works with or uses radioactive materials before he is capable of the process of changing back into original matter, then he acts in ways that are criminal and that violate the laws of nature.

Now, I can't say that we are capable of changing radioactive materials back into their original matter, but it is a hell of a lot safer then what we have now and won't produce ever more weapons and can surely be advanced towards staying within the laws of nature, I hope.
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Quiet Revolution Of Truth -
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Corey
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A link to the FIGU Landesgruppe Canada's latest YouTube video regarding overpopulation:

FIGU Landesgruppe Canada's overpopulation video
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great video - Thank you, Corey.
Salome, Bill
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Corey
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Those at the top know (and resist) the Meier case, and in doing so they resist change that our people and the home we call the Earth could benefit from.

Give it 20 or 30 years, and perhaps they will see things from a different light, from a different perspective, from a different viewpoint, from a different ultimatum.

Ultimatum is a strong word, but it is the necessary phrase to describe our much needed birth-stoppage. It will have to be an ultimatum of the highest magnitude.

Someone, perhaps some people somehow and somewhere will have to act in the Earth's best interests as the future will be an emergency situation as a direct result of environmental catastrophes, and the disaster will be just too great for it to be otherwise.

We, the Earth-people will have our hands accompanied with disasters, and perhaps arrogant boasting will become a thing of the past.

Perhaps over-usage of water will cease even though countries such as Europe, southwestern United States, India, all over the Middle East, Africa, and China, etc. are going into a state of severe water crisis, and no one is expressing concern on the media.

Perhaps this will become a thing of the past.

Why must it only be afterwards, only after when there will be a severe, undeniable crisis will this fact of cause and effect be acknowledged publicly?

So the general public can learn from the mistake.

After all, water crisis leads to irrigation problems, which leads to lower crop yields.

This means less food for the people.

This also means more desertification all around the Earth.

This also means less food for the people.

It is only afterwards that the crisis is acknowledged which is "Earth-style", not before the crisis develops which would be "wisdom-style".

And we can read in Sfath's '48 time-travel reports (predictions) that this will be just the beginning of Earth's crisis-points.

Deny it today if you wish, but you will see my words ring true in 20-30 years time (and the Apophis meteor may strike disastrously in 2029/2036);



Someday, as a direct result of our collective stupidity that will unleash effects of overpopulation that will alter the very fabrics of our society, yet after some centuries, our people may be specialists at crisis intervention because of all the lessons learned.

We have the direct opportunity to learn from our societal mistakes, to learn from our collective self-created crisis-points to change the future itself, but the road may indeed be 200 years long, treacherous, and cumbersome, because we did not act in time to follow BEAM's recommendations.

What exactly will the future bring as an admonishment?

But now is not the time to give up, we have to be only at the beginning of our work to prevent unnecessary destruction, calamitous disaster, and the unimaginable from occurring ever again, and in doing so, alter the future.

~Written by Corey Müske (Mueske)~
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."

22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corey
I think that the truth can also be a double edged sword.
Knowing the truth by the elites may have the opposite effect.
Instead of doing what is right, because of Billy, tremendous harm may have occurred inadvertently.
It's not Billy's fault of course but because of the truth anounced these Dark order of darkness types are frantically trying to salvage whatever morsel of power they are starting to lose by the sheer mass consciousness awakening happening across the world to then double up the ante in their desperation to hold on to power through extreme measures.
The truth can and is still being buried by mountains of lies.
Even if takes taking out 75% of the world's population through wars, conflicts, false flags, famine, starvation, terrorism, nuclear Armageddon, manmade disasters and so forth they will definitely do it.
Is it Billy's fault?
No but there is always two sides to everything.
Good can be bad just as bad can be good depending on the circumstances and context in which it plays out.
So please for the sake of the truth let go of your false hopes and wishful thinking about overpopulation.
You are a wise and we'll intended man but frankly this generation of lost so called souls will never accept Billy's prudent recommendations on overpopulation.
It's never ever going to happen in our lifetime period ever!
As negative and despondent as it may sound Billy recommends that we see reality as they actually are and accept it as it really is.
Your efforts will be much appreciated in a few hundred years time.


Matt lee

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