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    Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 861 Registered: 08-2010 |
Joseph_emmanuel As Michael stated; after you are dead, no one from the future can come and speak with you... they would have to do it before your death. "Time-Travel" should be "dimension-travel" ...since we are not "rewinding" the tape of our present. This explains why we cannot change anything that has already occurred up to this time. Here's a mind-bender: During a previous incarnation of Billy's spiritform, when enlivening the personality of the great composer Felix Mendelssohn in 1844 ...all seven prophets met together. Regarding the "future being set"... perhaps the word "set" is misguiding us. The future, as a dimension, is based on the law of Cause & Effect and its resulting/determining consequences. If these 'resulting/determining consequences' could be figured-out (mapped out) then one could make pretty accurate determinations of things which are certain, probable and likely. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1344 Registered: 07-2009 |
Eddie, I think we all want to know where that CR is about the seven prophets! | ||
Joseph_emmanuel Member Post Number: 409 Registered: 05-2004 |
Eddie I'm still unclear about the reality of the past and the future. Are they a physical dimensional reality? And if so, how can people who are dead be alive in another past dimension? What does that mean? Are we all in the past? Regarding the future, does more than one dimension exist? Are we currently living in a dimension? The mind bender you presented is very interesting. Where did you read that? I would like to read it for myself. What was the purpose of this meeting? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1822 Registered: 07-2005 |
Eddie I am afraid I am going to have to burst your bubble and state that indeed certain foreordained future is set as stone which cannot be made undone even before that event has transpired. All six prophets saw the coming of Billy. The moment Jmmanuel met Billy or visa versa this future has already become the past 2000 or so years ago. Had someone been able to time travel from 11,500 or even a million years ago to every point in time that all 7 prophets were born , to the dot they would've seen the birth of all 7 prophets at the exact time, at the exact date and so on. Certain future event is definitely set like concrete and no amount of intervening cause and effect would've change any of the outcome nor the surrounding conditions to alter certain events. Matt lee | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 862 Registered: 08-2010 |
Michael_horn All I can recollect was the strong impression when I read it. Not sure if it was a CR or something from Christian F. in the Questions to Billy. Perhaps you can ask Christian F.? He likely knows if this is correct. Newinitiation That's correct, as I understand it, that certain things such as cosmic events are "set" to occur in the future. My explanations were more directed to the question that was proposed. Joseph_emmanuel Billy gave some great explanations regarding time, dimensions, etc in what I think was called "Seconds, Chronons and Tachyons"... not sure where to find it at the moment. Billy explained that we actually exist (the 'present') between the past and future dimension... this "present" exists for a tiny fraction of a second. I think smaller than a nano-second. Being so small and rapidly constant, our brains process this "present" as a constant. I had found this on this forum. “If for example tachyons, with a higher light speed than of those in normal space and the present of the material universe in any given hyperspace, is stored around a flying object, it is automatically flung into the past, while a chronon flow below our present speed of light results in a trip to the future.” Billy Meier - From the book EXISTENTES LEBEN IM UNIVERSUM (EXISTING LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE) 1978/1993" Wish I could be more productive but have a lot on my plate right now and lack the time to look for these things. Perhaps someone at FIGU can direct us to this information? Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 396 Registered: 10-2016 |
I think there are ET's all around the Earth, and that they do not have good purposes for humanity. I don't trust the situation. I think Ptaah's warning in contact #688 could not be clearer. We must have 800 years to go before things get better for humanity. I don't think we should trust the first alien races that comes along. Holograms, technology could be used against us, and we would be defenseless, all they would have to do is make us feel good about themselves, and initiate a slow takeover of the Earth. Perhaps that is what has been going on for 5000 years. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Darcy_carlile Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 08-2010 |
I discovered today through the contact reports that my sighting back in 2012 with my oldest brother and his son as witnesses to the event, possibly seen our Earth future flying strangers flying one of their various large and small dimensionally changeable flying objects. I wonder if they had a reason for inventing flying craft that can change their form in what appeared to me to be in an instant of time. | ||
Darcy_carlile Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 08-2010 |
My thoughts on why the Earth future strangers invented dimensionally changeable flying objects. I think the future ones exist from the immaterial energy because they have no structure yet in relation to our space-time continuum and so they wanted to be able to materialize in our space-time structure and so they used their technology to do it. My guess is they are from 2000 years in the future because they must be using a higher level of physics in order to manipulate the fine material. | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 207 Registered: 01-2011 |
Dear all Why are we always getting locked up in such a commotion over a future that will be a completed story in a time-space continuum where we are just simply trying to understand being one and the same. One key is unconditional love but realizing that this includes also tough love! Once we realize and accept that it is all that the fact remains that everything in and of itself/themselves will congeal at the last sigh towards the great sleep! This includes all other so-called universes as simply a group of multi-verses shooting for the same goal.. that of being a totally new expression of total (Self) awareness but with a very new twist added with experience on this red road of blood called life! Let's not get lost in semantics... let us just be one-in all! Billy is simply a given mirror in and on to ourselves so that we might remember that which we already knew/know inside. 333 (Mat) And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1021 Registered: 04-2011 |
Dear Moderators Please publish this version instead of the one I just sent you. Thank you. The life form of the Reticulum androids were not what we see as androids in our movies, i.e. they had no artificial parts. Quetzal’s explanation is quite unambiguous in that. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 CR 215:77 77. With the bioorganic androids, it concerned effective artificial life forms, so not robots or the like, but independently thinking beings, in every way self-capable of making decisions, made out of living material and living organs, bred in accordance with the human beings who are located in the Reticulum systems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So the Reticulum scientists were able to create life forms that directly absorb cosmic energies. But yes, to put this thought to our world’s scientists today – it may sound like H. G. Well’s imagination (Time Machine) to scientists in 1895 … PS Some years ago I had gone through the CRs to find info about the “UFOs in our skies today” details see http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/14997.html#POST79891 and subsequent articles | ||
Aristea Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 06-2019 |
We are water and carbon based life forms. Theoretically, there could be life forms that have an entirely different basis for existence. Why, there might be life forms that could live within suns, or life forms that could exist in a vacuum and find it quite pleasant. We should not define all reality in terms of our own existence. Why, sometimes when I wake up in the morning, I put on my body like a water and bones suit of clothes and think, Ok, now I have to carry this heavy bag of bones through another day. It's clumsy and ponderous, doesn't hurt but seems a relatively low kind of life form, compared to life in the spirit. | ||
Aristea Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 06-2019 |
Theoretically you can travel to any time or place you can think of in your spirit. This requires some concentration. Time is real; it is not an illusion. It is an energy somewhat like gravity which holds all things together. Without time and gravity nothing that exists could take shape, for in the moment of its taking shape it would immediately disappear. Therefore, those who would do away with time are the ultimate nihilists. They wish for nothing to be something. Also, if you would travel in time, you need to make friends with it and speak nicely to it. . . . then your lives will become easier. Most people on earth are either running away from time or pursuing it. They need to live in harmony with it, as it governs everything that happens on earth and everywhere else as well. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2920 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Aristea, This quote taken from "Into to the Meditation" 631.The colour RED will then be the signal that the meditative-contemplation has been reached and the subconscious begins to work independently now according to the set side-Ziel (or time travel), upon which it begins to release pictures (waking-dream-pictures) in a form quite true to reality, thus they clearly distinguish themselves from sleeping-dream-pictures. 631. Die Farbe ROT ist dann das Signal dafür, dass die Meditativ-Versenkung erlangt ist und nun das Unterbewusste selbständig zu arbeiten beginnt nach der gesetzten Nebenzielsetzung (oder Zeitreise), worauf dieses Bilder (Wachtraumbilder) freizugeben beginnt in sehrwirklichkeitsgetreuer Form, so sie sich also klar erkennbar unterscheiden von Schlaftraumbildern. I think it is more than making "friends" with it, but is a long process which takes years of concentration and and learning in the true way... | ||
Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 212 Registered: 01-2011 |
Dear Aristea, The Scientific community is now using the words "Quantum Entanglement" If you allow yourself to see an overall picture of this multiverse you will see that it is in fact a web of energy" The old saying is "as above so below" No matter what.... we are all connected at all levels of being. We just have to become aware of that and then it just all fits into place. The same applies to the human brain. If you have truly seen the other-side you would know exactly what I mean. bronzedesk Mat And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot | ||
Aristea Member Post Number: 12 Registered: 06-2019 |
The mind leads into internal dimensions, no doubt about it. It is easy to get lost in the unconscious mind. Sometimes in the morning I wake up completely disoriented. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 547 Registered: 10-2016 |
  • Snippet from contact conversation 651: Billy: Thank you. I'll take care of it. We've always talked about the so-called UFOs and the four groupings that just turn around in Earthly space with (unknown flying objects'). And to these four groupings belongs also the group of the 'Earth future', which are however actually two groupings in themselves, as you already told me at the beginning of our contacts with private conversations. Your daughter Semjase, but also Quetzal and yourself talked about it, but it was never published in discussion reports, because it was always private. So it was not until more recent times, when you made certain observations and gained unambiguous insights and came to important evidence, that there was a halfway open discussion about it. I would now like to ask to what extent it is permitted to talk about this in an even more open way now, as well as with regard to the fact that the grouping of the 'Earth future' actually corresponds to two groupings and why you call them so and only as one grouping, because they are actually two of them? Ptaah: 47. There is no real secrecy about this, because we have cautiously only vaguely talked about it because we lacked certain evidence, which we now have and which has provided us with good knowledge and caused us not to seek contact with either group in the future. 48. And we call these groupings 'Earth-future' because the one grouping is effectively Earth-future or exists in the distant future on Earth and comes through time bridges into the present time. Billy: Billy: Excuse me, by time bridges you mean time-travel, as we say? In this case, the future Earth humans are those Earthlings of the distant Earthly time who already live on Earth in the distant future and who, through the possibility of their time travel technique with their various small and large futuristic flying machines, have been coming into Earthly present since time immemorial and also into our present today. However, this is also done by the other group 'Future Earth', which has its state in a certain underground area of Earth, has a general futuristic technology and therefore also very highly developed aircraft. These aircrafts, which I call so in your sense, are an Earthly-technical development for today, which is completely futuristic resp. progressive, innovative, progressive, trend-setting, ahead of the present time and therefore trend-setting etc.. With regard to this second grouping, which you also call 'future Earth humans', it must be said that these are not, however, descendants of extraterrestrials from the distant future of Earth, nor are they direct, but indirect, very distant descendants of extraterrestrials. These people live deep underground under Earth's surface, and with their futuristic flying machines they also turn around in Earth’s airspace, as I already knew from Asket, because she had already initiated me in this regard in the 1950s, but she was … spoke. Also your daughter Semjase, Quetzal and you explained a lot to me, but you always said that I shouldn't talk about it officially because it's not the time yet. It is mainly this group of the future that makes a name for itself again and again, especially in the western world. And this happens very often, and interestingly enough most often in the western hemisphere, which we call the geographically conceived western hemisphere with this term, as a counterpart to the eastern hemisphere or hemisphere. If I remember correctly, the two imaginary hemispheres are separated by the 0° reference meridian at Greenwich and the so-called antimeridian at 180°. Accordingly, the areas west of London, West Africa and the entire regions of North and South America, Patagonia, Greenland and Canada belong to the western hemisphere, where most sightings of various small and large and even gigantic UFOs or futuristic flying objects of the 'inner terrestrials' appear. Especially the UFO appearances in Arizona, in Belgium and in England, which were probably traced back to these 'Earth futures', caused a huge sensation in the worldwide media. I would be interested to know why these 'Earth futures' are so frequent in the western hemisphere and still are today, because in the eastern hemisphere such futuristic aircraft or UFOs are observed less often, i.e. in the majority of Europe, Asia, Australia, New Zealand and Oceania, which are counted to the eastern hemisphere. It should also be said that, according to the so-called Monroe Doctrine of 1823, the western hemisphere is often equated with the 'New World' or with America and the neighbouring island states or politically delimited by the member states of NATO. Ptaah: 49. What you say is correct, and the reason why the inner terrestrial and also Earthly future 'Earth futures' operate especially in the western hemisphere is to be justified with this …, about which, however, silence is required Billy: But why, this is the question, do you call these inhabitants of Earth also 'future Earthlings', of whom we have already spoken before and whom, with a few exceptions, you have always named only in this way, without giving an explanation? That is simply not clear to me, nor is it clear to me why you have never said anything more specific about it or defined the term exactly. Ptaah: 50. The reason for our name 'Earth Future' is based on the fact that the entire technology of the inhabitants of Earth's interior state corresponds to a future Earthly technology, which will only find its beginning in the near future and will only become reality in the distant future. 51. And the fact that we never talked about it in detail and made no statements was because you never asked about it in your restraint and always kept to observe and keep silent about our directives. 52. We greatly appreciated that, and besides, you have never been driven by curiosity in a way that could have embarrassed us about our directives. 53. And what we ever explained to you, including secret things, was always out of necessity, but we could always rely on you keeping the word to keep silent under all circumstances. Billy: All right, we don't have to talk about that, because you answered my question, so you don't need it anymore. Then again a question: Are the three that I have in … I met, as well as the two in …, so relatives of this … what you call her by her real name? If so, then they live in the subterranean state structure in the area of …, but they also go under the people on Earth's surface, but despite … remain unrecognized or are replaced by the surface Earth objects in … because they may know a lot about you. • End of snippet. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_651 I will post the original German in a few days time. Contact 651 Tuesday 03rd of May, in the year 2016. Translated by DEEPL and uploaded to the FOM site by unknown persons. Copyright FIGU/BEAM Age of Aquarius publishing.  Sincerely, Corey Müske (Mueske) USA. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2045 Registered: 07-2005 |
When people from the ufological community or what Michael Horn would refer to them as UFOCI speak about aliens living among us and ET community living underground they must be confusing these highly sophisticated earthlings with extraterrestrial aliens. Over and over again Billy did state that there were no ETs living underground nor in any bases. So the fact is as we have suspected for many years that indeed there exists a highly sophisticated human beings or rather non extraterrestrial earth human beings far more advanced than the surface dwelling everyday normal earth human beings who are living underground as a breakaway civilisation. Matt lee | ||
Fermouth Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2019 |
Newinitiation: So then, who are the people that live under Mt. Shasta with the fair skin and yellow hair? The ones spoken about in the CR's? I forget which report it was in, but I definitely remember it. I also believe I've found about where their entrance might be, considering they do go out briefly to gather food and other resources. On a side note: I was enjoying the night sky the other night about a week or so ago and happened to notice a fireball appear in the night sky and move in a parallel line with the tree line. I only observed this for a split second. I'd say it last maybe a tenth or fifth of a mile in a straight line then abruptly disappeared. It quite a ways away. If I had to guess, maybe 15-50 miles away, several miles high in the air. Just curious if any of you had any kind of sightings like this etc? I was deep in thought about our exo-friends and creation at the time. This would be what I considered the closest thing to a UFO that I can think of. | ||
Fermouth Member Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2019 |
Newinitiation: Also, there are the Haster exo-humans who traveled with the aid of the Plejarens to establish an underwater base in the North Sea. I believe that was from one of the most recent CRs. 710 I think. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 858 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Fermouth they have removed themselves in 1988 or 1989 and there's nothing left there by them at Mt. Shasta. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Fermouth Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 07-2019 |
Regarding my earlier post #7: The contact report is #39, lines 260 and ongoing. And I was incorrect in saying I believed I had found them. I only have an idea that an image may be from a beamship landing on the top of the mountain via satellite. This isn't the Google Satellite that they do their maps with either, but rather the NSGS satellite used for their earthquake monitoring website.  | ||
Norm3 Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 07-2016 |
Justsayno, Do you know what CR that's in? | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1037 Registered: 04-2013 |
Fermouth, Would be surprised if it is a spacecraft; do you have coordinates for this? In the enhanced picture, it appears to be a human-made structure of some sort.  Kenneth |
