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Adxok
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 08:55 am: | 
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Thank you , Kenneth for your thorough explanations.
The experiment with the droplets in the ISS is really interesting. Unfortunately none can perform an isolated (from other forces) experiment in such a small scale, because of air fluctuation, inertia forces to separate droplets or pour them out of a syringe or bottle... too many influencing physical variables would and will participate in the experiment. Nevertheless, it really can prove that matter attracts to itself.
Yes, by "shrinking" I meant less expanded state (earlier) state of the Universe.
Do you think it would be too bold to suggest that maybe... maybe in the past Earth was also less bigger (smaller)? That would make the continental drift be explained almost instantly!
With respect to Gravity... it seems like the most predominant "force" in the whole Space is the empty space, the repelling in-between space form galaxy to galaxy, star to star, planet to planet.
I still would like to see someone gathering mass to prove that at some point it will cause Gravity and gravitational field.
Also, do you think that the War between Atlantis and Mu could have caused or taken a huge part in the formation of what we now call the great deserts: from West Sahara to Gobi? This is only a hypothesis, with which I came up a couple of years ago.
Also, have you heard of the recent theory (find it on YouTube) that the Eye of Sahara might have been the actual ruins of Atlantis (or one of the cities of Atlantis - the capital Plato decribes as a round city with circles of land and water)?
There are too many questions indeed... |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 10:45 pm: |
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Hello,
I have been trying to understand time travel phenomenon for a while too. Here is my puzzle: you only can retrieve something from past if you go in time and bury it. Then the question is,can you unearth that object before you decide to go back in time and place it there or only after the fact. If not in that case how it gets there and ages to present. But if the principle is what happened in the past is permanent then another question arises does it go both ways that the future has also happened at that point when you went back in time even if you haven't been born yet? |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 - 06:32 am: |
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"With respect to Gravity... it seems like the most predominant "force" in the whole Space is the empty space, the repelling in-between space form galaxy to galaxy, star to star, planet to planet."
Many folks think that empty space is...well just empty and that it is the planets, stars, etc. that are doing things. Instead we learn that empty space is like a fabric that gets warped when we introduce matter, like a planetary body. But it is not just space that is part of this fabric but also time. So matter not only warps space but also time, hence the inseparable space-time.
Einstein proved that matter slows down time. The more mass an object has, the more gravity, the slower time proceeds. So time runs faster the further you get away from a gravitational source. Acceleration also warps space as well as slows down time; in Einstein's famous thought experiment with the two twins and a rocket ship, he showed that the two would age differently even though born at the same time on Earth. The twin on earth would be much younger than the twin who was aboard the speeding rocket ship.
This is called time dilation. An observer will measure a moving clock as ticking slower than a clock that is at rest in the observer's own reference frame. The same holds true when a clock is closer to a gravitational mass, time slows down compared to a clock that is high above a planet's surface for example. So we might say that time is localized.
So we know that gravity and acceleration effect time. So let's suppose that a person standing on a planet's surface, succumbed to a specific gravity, is able to use a machine to say double the surrounding or localized gravity. What would happen? Obviously the increased distortion would further warp space and slow down time. Einstein, unlike Newton, proved that gravity does not pull a person to the ground when they fall. But rather that a person falls through free space along the curvature caused by an object that is warping the space. So the person with the gravity distortion unit, not only would slow down their time but also "fall" through the new curvature. Where would they fall? Somewhere through the space-time fabric I think.
It is matter or mass in general that is curving space and slowing down time. So anything that exists to warp space and time, including a human being, would have their own gravity signature. Obviously, the mass of the Earth is the dominant gravity signature so that the human being's signature would be minuscule in comparison. So let's say we want to travel back in time on the Earth. Given the law of time dilation, would we want to activate our gravity distortion unit near the Earth or far out in free space to travel back in time on the Earth? The answer is that the traveler would want to be as close to the mass as possible to stay within the its specific time waves. By moving out into free space, away from the mass you are trying to penetrate, the dilation of time would be different.
Just some food for thought....
Cheers,
Anthony |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 - 07:08 am: |
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Mistake: "The twin on earth would be much younger than the twin who was aboard the speeding rocket ship.'
Correction: "The twin on earth would be much OLDER compared to the twin aboard the speeding rocket ship." |
Adxok
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 - 08:35 am: |
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Hi, Channel_z
I really like the idea of "Localised Time".
Let's assume that Space-Time is something beyond us, we can not see it, though we can measure it (see it as a reference scale). This will immediately imply the presence of Light.
On the other hand we have to perceive that information, hence Thought comes into the equation as well. Also we need to operate in the environment., thus we need Movement - relative acceleration (of Force) or its first derivative: Speed
So, we have: Space (Distance), Time (?), Light (?), Thought (?), Movement (Force, Speed, Acceleration)
When I was a young boy (and because my grandfather was getting progressively blind), I tried to pt myself in his shoes and had those thoughts about how would a blind person perceive certain physical elements like: Space (Distance), Movement (Speed, Acceleration). Sound was a obvious and partial solution.
But then I thought...
What about if a person were born with damaged hearing? Blind, deaf...
Later I learned about the inner ear and how we "feel" our position in Space (with respect to Gravity). So, I thought... What if my both inner ear apparatus were damaged?
Then it all has to be sensed by the skin. What about damaged 'peripheral nervous system'?
What if a person were born with only Thought capabilities and no visible signs of life on their body, besides... Breathing (obviously)? Mind you that lack of Breathing (air, oxygen) can somehow "damage" your brain in 5 minutes, after which your Spirit leaves the body without chance to return if you respire the lungs/body again. Interesting isn't it?
Seems the body is intact, no injuries incompatible with life... but still Breathing has a direct connection to Life and Meditation, etc.
My point with all this was to find the connection between: Thought, Time (sense of Time), Light and Space (sense of Space: Movement, Force).
I think they are all connected somehow... |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 - 01:57 pm: |
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"But if the principle is what happened in the past is permanent then another question arises does it go both ways that the future has also happened at that point when you went back in time even if you haven't been born yet?"
Billy says that the future is not permanent, especially with regards to the prophecies; and that the earth humans' thoughts, feeling and actions going forward will decide if a prophecy then becomes a prediction.
It is much easier than you think to understand when Figu says the past is unchangeable. I think the problem folks have with understanding this concept is that we all think that once a time machine is invented, folks could go back in time and mess with the past. And that this must change the future, hence the famous grandfather paradox.
The simple answer is that in the event of a dead grandfather after he has his prodigy, there would be no time traveler. The opposite way of looking at it is that the past is NOT changed in the future; so when Billy went back in time to meet the rabbi Jechieli and gave him the lamp, that had already happened before Billy was even born. So the time travel does not begin with Asket taking Billy along for a trip; rather it is a fulfillment of something that happened already. Well folks can say, well what would happen if Billy and Asket did NOT make the trip, then there would be no way for the lamp to have gotten in the past so history would be changed. The simple answer is that the Plejaren and their Federation would not play games and try to cheat the past, it would NOT even be in their minds. Their minds would be focused on their duty and according to Askets historical records, she went back in time that day. In other words, this idea to go back in time for Asket did NOT come out of the blue.
Since we know that time dilation exists, firing your time machine up on top of a mountain for example would put you in a different stream than if you took off from the surface at sea level. So Earth humans who would try to cheat the past would not be able to get a precise lock on an EXACT past anyway and would be working with a crude form of time travel that put them in parallel dimensions far from their original timeline. So even when the Earth humans discover time travel, they will still be probably thousands of years behind the Plejaren. And once Earth humanity advances to the level to invent a precise form of time travel, he will no longer think crazy ideas about changing the past; and will understand that it is not possible anyway. And when he/she uses precise time travel technology it would be used within the creational-natural laws and directives. Any other way would be illogical to advanced humans.
Cheers!
Anthony |
Adxok
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 08:22 am: |
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Channel_z,
Those Time-Travel scenarios are quite tricky, you have to admit.
We do not understand the big picture, because as I wrote above... everything must be included:
Light, Speed, Space, Time, Thought, transformation or fluctuation of matter, which we now has two states - coarse (material) and fine (non-material, other worldly).
I think this has much more to be related to dimensions and how matter manifests itself into 3D, but it is actually "connected" in higher dimensions, be it 4 or 5 or 6 and above.
With that in mind, let me say that a 4D object when crossing the 3D realm, might look like it has appeared at two different times, or maybe at two different locations at the same time in that 3D realm.
This subject is much more broad and can not be diminished to just a simple event or occurrence.
When we say something travelled in Time and did this and that, we have to explain: matter transformation, Light (state of Light), state of the Universe (if expanding)...
It is not enough just to say, it is "not possible to change the past".
Because change would have only occurred if we get back (further in time) to the same track of universal development of our 3D space, that follows the track of when that change happened.
Thus, if I were to go back in Time and kill my grandfather, then what will determine my birth further in that track of development?
It is not linear or is it? Because it will be always present, Present time for the Time-Traveller.
The Time-Traveller would still be living in that body, hence from that perspective, it will be and has to be perceived as a Present linear time for them.
Billy and Asket leave our Time and go to alleged prehistorical time of Earth.
How can we tell if it was the same Earth (or maybe it was just a different planet)? We would need a reference from our Time, otherwise it won't be credible!
Hence, Billy and Asket were still the same people experiencing life in linear fashion of Time.
I think it is all related to Thought and the real multi-dimensional structure of our so called "atoms". At least! |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 10:31 am: |
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Channel_z,
You said, “"But if the principle is what happened in the past is permanent then another question arises does it go both ways that the future has also happened at that point when you went back in time even if you haven't been born yet?"
That statement is kind of switching tracks mid-stream. In other words, you cannot go back in time unless you have been born; and yes you can go back in time before you were born. Billy proved that when he went back before he was born when he experienced the dinosaur era and meeting the rabbi Jechieli.
Nonetheless, you clarified your thoughts in the rest of your writing. I like the way that you think.
Regards
Kenneth |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 03:51 pm: |
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"Thus, if I were to go back in Time and kill my grandfather, then what will determine my birth further in that track of development?
It is not linear or is it? Because it will be always present, Present time for the Time-Traveller.
The Time-Traveller would still be living in that body, hence from that perspective, it will be and has to be perceived as a Present linear time for them."
Hi Adxok,
Maybe it is easier to understand it this way, just like a human has free will, there is no law holding a time traveler back from interacting with the past, thus producing change. But time is not one linear stream, it is dependent on acceleration and mass. So think of space-time like the ocean, and planetary bodies are like islands that slow down the water as the waves break on the shores. The ocean currents then curve around the islands shores; and then the waters resume their normal unrestricted pattern in the open sea. Of course this is simplified as there are endless factors to open waters (space-time) like weather, sea life, etc.
We experience time as linear, but that is an illusion. Since time is effected by acceleration, every time we drive in a car, for example, time has slowed down in our livees, nevertheless minuscule, compared to when we are at rest. So there is not one, but a multitude of time waves emanating from the mass of the earth, not to mention fainter waves coming in from space. And of course everyday the planet Earth get tons of cosmic dust and meteorites, thus the mass changes further slowing down time for us here. Obviously the differences in time dilation due to changes in mass due to space dust and driving in cars are so minuscule, that we humans do not notice. But obviously we know it exists otherwise we would not be able to calibrate our GPS clocks properly, for example.
The past and the future are about polarity. We learn from Billy that the past in unchangeable, and the future can be changed. So the past is the past and cannot be changed even though time travel exists and time travelers have free will like any other humans. So what is going on?
If a time traveler is going back in time to kill his grandfather, to prevent his birth and he is SUCCESSFUL, he will never reach his true timeline that contains his real grandfather. Instead primitive time travelers, who would have such a desire and be successful, would have killed a parallel twin grandfather who does not carry the same spiritform. Therefore the time traveler ends up in a 'universe' where a grandfather is killed before he has the prodigy who only looks, like a clone or brother, of the time traveler.
If by some rare chance a crazy primitive human got the level of technology of the Plejaren, to reach their actual grandfather (spiritform), they would face unforeseen obstacles that would absolutely prevent them from succeeding because of universal law that the past is unchangeable. Of course this time traveler would fail in parallel lines too. Something would stop this crazy person who probably is not thinking clearly from succeeding, no matter how good the plan. Impossible on this line because it already happened; yet you could be a murderer in a parallel space-time and rob a complete stranger, even though the family looked just like yours. In this case the traveler would end up, somewhere lost in space-time, where he murdered a guy that only looked like his grandfather.
This allows the law of human free will to exist along with the law that the past is fixed. There is no paradox. It is a matter of evolution and infinite time waves.
Cheers,
Anthony
Btw Kenneth, I did not say that; that was what I grabbed from another poster for my response. See the quotation marks my friend? Cheers! |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1087
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 08:39 pm: |
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As I remember learning from the explanations from Billy...
We are existing between two dimensions, the past and future.... so there really is no "present".
"Time Travel" is actually travelling to a different dimension... so it's not actual time travel.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 73
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 11:08 pm: |
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Kenneth,
"Billy proved that when he went back before he was born when he experienced the dinosaur Era"
Taken the past as a reference point as if it's our present, then the future had to have happened for Billy to come to the "present". Billy already had to be born to be able to visit the past which could be considered as permanent. But again in the same manner Billy's future is only the past of the time which our future people come from. |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 09:57 am: |
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Jokubas,
I could be wrong here but I think when Billy visited a "dinosaur era" he was on a trip on the Great Spacer mothership, far from the planet Earth.
As I understand it, this dinosaur planet was not encountered going millions of years into Earth's past; but rather that the Plejaren showed Billy a planet on their Great Spacer journey that they discovered previously that was still is in the evolution of per-historic life.
Cheers,
Anthony |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 11:58 am: |
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Hi folks,
If it is creational-natural law that the past is fixed and the future is changeable, a question might come to mind given the story of Asket and Billy's time travel adventure: well if the time travel happened in the past, and became fixed in history, what would happen if Billy was never born to make that trip, since the future is changeable? In other words, how could Billy's life be guaranteed when the future is changing with the events of the day?
I think the answer lies with prophecies and predictions. As we know from the spiritual teaching prophecies are changeable events of the future, while predictions are guaranteed to happen. Well some might say that predictions are only prophecies that have become certain because man has refused to change. Yes, but then there are other predictions like comets, asteroids, etc. that can be predicted many years ahead of time. The hold also true for this orbit of 7 (mathematically synchronized) successive prophets that were put into motion millions of years ago with Henoch II. I think Billy's birth was guaranteed way back then, so that the few hundred years between rabbi Jechieli and Billy, was meaningless.
Cheers,
Anthony |
Adxok
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2019 - 03:03 pm: |
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Guys,
My point about Travelling back in Time is that we, as travellers, would need some... any... kind of reference, to be able to determine for sure, that we actually have travelled back in Time.
Dinosaurs could have been on any other planet. So then could the Moon be a reference? Or constellations?
Seems like the Moon is not a natural satellite of the Earth, it's been brought up in a time after the dinos (if we believe they have been extinguished 65 million years ago).
I think, according to the Billy's Contact Notes, the Moon has been brought up by the Destroyer comment in fairly more "recent" times (millions of years ago).
I am speculating though. I do not know how many millions of years ago the Moon has been brought up to the Solar system.
Anyway, my point is, we need a reference!
bring me back in Time, first thing I am looking for is a known reference: The Moon, the Constellations, then will look for a peak of a mountain, language, books, maybe known building structures... anything!
There is also a biblical event that describes something very similar to travel in Space and Time, and three Earths behind portals... etc (Old Testament). It is really mind-blowing!
I need a thorough explanation with all parameters I need, like I mentioned before: Light, Speed, Matter, reference objects, etc.
I also still believe, that because the Universe had come into existence, thus pro-creating Space, Time (Thought), Light, Speed...
Yet, no one can claim that they have the means to tell where as the primal point, where that happened. And I think that is because it happened in a different Time and we cannot find the primal point of the Big Bang.
We do not have a reference point for our Speed and movement in Space! Because: the Earth is spinning and moving, the Sun is spinning and moving, the Solar system, the Milky way...
Who knows what our Speed actually is and how can anyone tell if there is no primal reference point for everything moving.
Yet we claim we have found the Speed of Light. But we say it is always the same no matter how fast you travel, you will perceive it as such and such number.
Perception is always related to senses and Thought. Light – for 90% of the surrounding world would give is such an information.
I think it is locked somewhere in our Thoughts. The doors through Space and Time. Can not be any other way. Time and Thought are related somehow... and that is my only conclusion. |
Channel_z
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2019 - 07:10 pm: |
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Hello MH and Chris,
There is no paradox. I have tried to show this; and got it online in this time travel part of this forum.
MH, I never claimed anything undone or the past is changeable. This is difficult to explain! I have said that I agree the past is fixed and the future, the opposite polarity, the positive, is changing. My explanation needs more than one read because it takes this into account AND FREE WILL. The real issue I am trying to address is FREE WILL!
Do folks really think that a time traveler loses the ability to make mistakes? A time traveler does not lose the ability to become a murderer or any other act within the capacity of a human's free will. So if the past can not be changed YET a human possesses a free will to murder, what is going on?
Folks do not understand the nature of time, how it is in pockets rather than a straight line. Time traveling is a personal experience because there are an infinite number of timelines available, ranging from parallel lines that make up a useful time travel experience, to diverse lines that would be very strange. The point is that all possibilities exist, yet EACH spiritform is unique. Figu is only giving us so much information to solve the puzzle. They do NOT want to confuse this with modern physics "many worlds" theories which confuse multiverse twins with ANOTHER YOU! This is the problem for Figu.
The Meier case only acknowledges the precise technology of the Plejaren because it is not a time traveling case, but rather spiritual teaching. Remember the Ps are interested in spiritforms so they NEED to reach an exact line. But for early development time travelers, the universe is so large that finding this line would be like finding a needle in a haystack. And if they could even reach this line, which is one in infinity, then it would be illogical to even try to "kill your grandfather" because the past has been played out and the grandson born. So even when a lesser developed time traveler tries to change the past, and thus exercising free will as natural, on a foreign line to his own, even if he succeeds in killing 'his' grandfather, this has already played out. The paradox does not exist because he did not kill his real grandfather (spiritform), only a clone with a different and unique spiritform. But to a materialist this does not matter.
Think of it this way. Let's say we would like to have a nail to complete a task. But finding this nail will take many generations to find; but meanwhile there are thumb tacks all around, easy to find, that give results that work for a while until we need another tack. The point is that the Plejaren are interested in reaching the exact spiritforms; whereas early time travelers are not interested in that and only wish to seek material things. And material things exists just like tacks! It is the spiritform that represents the one in infinity line that the Plejaren are capable of finding because that is what they are interested in.
Now just because a time traveler can exercise free will just like in natural time does not mean he/she can change the past! My point all along has been that a time traveler can not change the past; YET free will exists at the same time because of the infinite diversity of the multiverse.
All the best,
Anthony |
Savio
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Post Number: 819
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 01:34 am: |
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Dear all
I remember Billy said it somewhere that “multi timeline” does not exist.
There are multi-dimensions but not multi-timeline.
In fact, if a new timeline can be created “at anytime” by the “free will” of “any time travelers”, where are those energy/materials needed for the whole new timeline/universe be obtained?
A new timeline means any time traveler can became a Creator ! What a chaos!
Salome
Savio
http://billybooks.org
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Aristea
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 06-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 05:48 am: |
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I have thought recently, that all possible outcomes of anything are existing somewhere in time. So, there is some place in which every possibility exists. An example, there is a planet earth somewhere in which the Nazis won World War II, and those spirit forms who believed in the victory of Germany live on that alternate earth in their dream life after death. There is an alternate earth where the Roman Empire still exists as a world government. There is an alternate earth where there is no sickness or war and all live in a state of unlimited bliss, a "heaven", as it were. There is an alternate earth that is totally destroyed and where no one lives. All these alternate earth realities show us pieces of themselves on our existing planet. All of the alternate earth realities can be "visited", and this happens sometimes when we dream.
What I mean to say here is that in the infinity of "what is", that there are unlimited possibilities of what might have been, and these dimensional possibilities exist alongside of what we perceive as reality. So this can lead us to other speculations. If an alternate reality becomes strong enough, it can influence the reality that is and change it. So again, using the example that everybody knows and hates, if there is enough spiritual power behind the idea that the Nazis won World War II, gradually that reality will take shape on the planet and replace the reality that the Allies and Allied "freedoms" won the war, and the shape of reality on the earth will be changed.
This is how the past, and events which shaped human life over the years, can be changed. It is a slow process, but it can and does happen. In ancient Greece Sparta and Corinth won a great war against Athens. . . they were the absolute victors. Today there remains not a stone in Sparta, where the great power once ruled over the Greek Peninsula. Nothing remains of the great citadel of Corinth either. Both have been erased from the face of the earth, because the greater moral power was with the Athenians.
In time travel, I theorize it would be possible to visit these alternate earth realities, however perhaps not in the body. But if one had a seeing stone or some way of looking into the alternate realities, those realities could be observed.
The planet Malona still exists in one of these alternate realities, and can be viewed by someone with enough mental power to see what might have been.
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Channel_z
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 11-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 09:05 am: |
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"There are multi-dimensions but not multi-timeline."
Hi Savio,
Okay if we can agree on "multi-dimensions," wouldn't each dimension consist of it's own unique time (waves)? This is no different than comparing time between different planets. If we are comparing two different planets, of different mass (say the second one has twice the gravity), time would not tick the same on the two worlds. The planet with more mass, thus further warping space-time and slowing down time, compared to the first planet, time would tick slower. So we can say that the first planet has a different time stream compared to the second planet due to the time dilation difference. This basic idea must also exist comparing two different space-time configurations of the DERN.
And yes a time traveler, like any other human, is a creator. But since we know that the past can't be changed, any perceived changes from the perspective of a time traveler is happening not on his original line, effecting widespread chaos, but rather is confined to a dimension where the time traveler's actions played out naturally already; and given the unique nature of the individual's thoughts, feelings and actions to create his own destiny, this dimension remains foreign to the folks who remained on their original line. So the trip is a personal experience to one of an infinite number of lines compared to the rest of the world who remained in their natural time, unaffected by the crazy actions of a primitive time traveler.
Cheers,
Anthony |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1416
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 08:35 am: |
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Anthony,
This is what you said:
"Maybe it is easier to understand it this way, just like a human has
free will, there is no law holding a time traveler back from
interacting with the past, thus producing change."
As fascinating as the subject is, it seems to be bringing out a lot of inaccurate information. |
Corey
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Post Number: 561
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 11:55 am: |
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I completely authorize the Trilateral Goverment of Earth to have a more direct role in the direct affairs of Earth that directly affect the national and international learning mechanisms of the individual learning mechanisms of the people of Earth, whether these people are directly from a high government, a middle government, or a low government, and whether these people are directly from an advanced degree of seperation among the masses of the people of Earth (IE: the people at the bottom).
The Trilateral government will slowly be awarded trusted infromation from trusted sources that are not from this Earth. There is an eventuality that the Trilateral government will partake in national and international affairs that Federally protect the direct learning mechanisms of each of the federally protected learning mechanisms for the Earth human being that are very good for the national, international, and interstellar learning mechanisms of planetary and interplanetary peace, and the Trilateral Government is already a long lasting member of a very complex compentary system that will reinforce the learning mechanisms of the entire Earth society in a way that benefits the all.
Furthermore the United States government will have 500 years of earning trust from very trusted serious extraterrestrial governments to prove it is an indispensable arm of the trilateral government. The United States government has earned this authorization because the Bafath government disrupted my original team's sole purpose for reincarnation on this planet. So you see, by directly interfering with my country's sole purpose of existance, and directly interfering with my people's mission (planetary interference), the Bafath government directly interfered with the original missions of the Chinese and the Russian nationalities and governments, and all three governments will be given the pieces to pick the pieces back up.
This post is a very high authorization that the Earth people have to learn to trust, whether these people have authority in high governments, middle governments, or low level governments, or whether these people are from the bottom of these individual societies, which is the true way you measure the spiritual mission of a planet, is by precisely measuring the spritual nature and the spiritual individual missions of the peoples at the bottom and the top of the individual societies of a given planetary system, and our Earth civilisation is in for a very long-lasting upgrade and will be shown very precise complex peace mechanisms that will cure all the ills of our planetary society, whether these authorizations are very secretive for reasons of planetary peace, or whether they are slowly made public for reasons of planetary peace with further high authorizations.
Sincerely,
Corey Müske (Mueske) USA.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1060
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 03:56 pm: |
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Hi Aristea,
This is not a negative comment towards your Post, but only a neutral-positive observations.
Regarding your Post #23; it reminds me of the autosuggestions put forth by film makers that sponsored, “The Twilit Zone”, "Parallel Worlds”, that connect through a secret doorway, the television series “Fringe” about parallel universe and many more.
It’s my understanding that this is for the most part pure Sci-Fi. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy watching Sci-Fi movies because it helps one to think outside the box and to think for oneself. Nonetheless, these movies are only one person’s prospective or an idea that has the means to put forth his/her concept. It does not mean that it’s real.
Billy has written many books, apparently more of them in German than what has been translated into English. What I have found is the each of Billy’s books is like a puzzle piece to a larger picture. Those in the FIGU Forum that have read many of Billy’s books, do in fact have a larger picture.
In other words dear friend, please continue to read more of Billy’s books. As you do so, your understanding of “Time Travel ie; UFO's from the future” and the Spiritual Teaching will continue to evolve.
Happy studying Aristea,
Salome
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Michael_horn
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 - 08:18 am: |
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Please see Savio's comment above. And also please study the Meier material and maybe you'll cease to espouse the delusional New Age fantasies that you've somehow mistaken for realities. |
Savio
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Post Number: 820
Registered: 07-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 02:22 am: |
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Hi Channel_z
“Multi-dimensions” existed since the big bang, hence all materials/energy were already there, just awaiting for penetration and/or discovery.
According “logic” and “cause and effect”:
What is done cannot be undone.
What did not happen in the past will never happen in the future.
The creation of new timelines by time travelers is not logical, not feasible and not possible, the same logic apply to creating new dimensions and/or dimension of one’s own.
Yes, one can create his/her own fantasy, but not altering the history.
Salome
Savio
http://billybooks.org
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