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Adxok
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Post Number: 8
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2019 - 10:15 am: | 
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Hi, to all participating in this discussion.
I would like to remind you as well that Billy and Semjase also did some close in the past travels. Usually those short travels had to occur when the contact took much longer than anticipated and Billy had to be returned back "on time" so his absence could not be noticed.
I think this is another extremely important phenomena with regards to Time-Travel.
Also, please take a note, that the man Asket and Billy met in Jordan (at the reiver shore) was a russian by the name Iljitsch Ustinov in Cyrillic it is Ильич Устинов. His short or (common or cute) name was Jitschi or Ичы. I am bulgarian, so we have very in common with russians.
I also think (my personal opinion) is that Asket would never make a mistake to overlook who was in the proximate vicinity around them, so I think Jitschi probably might have been the incarnated rabbi Jechieli. Anyhow, there could not be any unnecessary burden to take Iljitsch (Jitschi) with them on a time travel.
But let's get back to the short Time-Travel with Billy.
At some point Semjase says that they would take him (teleport him) on board only when his mind was not burdened with heavy thoughts. Otherwise the teleportation might have ended badly for Billy, resulting in some terrible trans-mutation of his body or something in those preoccupations.
I was wondering if this also could be a prerequisite for the Time-Travel ability of one's body?
Please, can you elaborate on the subject of that short Time-Travel that Semjase had to perform with Billy and for him.
This Time-Travel business is getting very deep... down the rabbit hole. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1052
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2019 - 12:02 pm: |
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Hello Adxok,
That’s an interesting concept that Jitschi probably might have been the incarnated rabbi Jechieli? Only Billy and the Plejaren would know that for sure; they’re not saying.
As far as talking about more detail in time-travel, for truthful accuracy, the folks with FIGU can only quote from what the Plejaren or Billy have already revealed? You may recall that Billy was not allowed to photograph the beamship control panels for obvious reasons. What the Plejaren have shown us is that Time-travel is in fact possible. This fact helps scientist to think forward and eventually solve this technological challenge.
Being that us Earthlings are just stepping out of our baby shoes (says Billy); too much technology too soon would cause great difficulties. It will be a long time before current day Earthlings understand and use time-travel properly.
More than likely, further discussion on this time-travel subject will only result in conjecture, assumption and speculation without any facts or historical events to back it up?
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 738
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2019 - 04:42 pm: |
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I question whether Jitschi could have been the reincarnation of rabbi Jechieli because rabbi Jechieli appeared to handle being in contact with ETs (Asket) and Jitschi could not. He was highly religious and believed Asket was an angel even after he was told she wasn't. He also couldn't handle meeting/seeing Immanuel due to his religiousness.
Could rabbi Jechieli have been a former personality of Billy's spirit form or was Billy in someone else at that time? |
Norm
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 05:11 am: |
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Hugo, You are correct. Jechieli is more likely Nokodemion. |
Adxok
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 08:32 am: |
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Hi, Kenneth, Hugo
This Time-travel for sure can not be taken as isolated subject from all Space, universe and matter, light, etc.
Also I think Billy mentioned that time-travel portals can occur naturally (like the Bermuda Triangle phenomena, etc.) based on some natural concentration of stars's energies and what not.
Regarding Jitschi...
I think his presence at that time, his travel with Asket and Billy back in Time, could not be just a "mistake" on Asket's behalf that resulted in a curious coincidence for Jitschi to have an encounter experience with her and her ship.
Surely there might have been a specific reason.
I wish I had much, much more free time to explore the subject of Time and Space travel.
I think it is related ti the structure of the so called atom - its geometric structure of vibrations (orbitals) - especially with respect to gravity.
For example, by pure intuition, I always had this idea that gravity is somehow "polarising" the structure of the so called atoms - like a current flow. Now, if we had the means to somehow "flip" this "polarisation", gravity would be perceived as a mere wind.
Now, imagine if we could direct this "flipped" vector (it will be more like tensor, but that is a different subject) and somehow distribute it across all our "atoms". That means that there will be no perceived "forces of Inertia".
of course for us, earthlings to feel comfort and normal state of presence a force of 1g would always has to be present from the top of our heads to the bottom of our feet (so that we always have the impression of a vertical position, no matter how rotated our position is in Space).
This force though would have to be adjusted accordingly when we would like to get back our feet to the Earth and its own 1g, hence our anti-gravity capsule would have to reduce its 1g to 0, once the capsule hits the ground of the Earth, otherwise we would experience 1g + 1g = 2g.
Very interesting subject for me, as I have a great interest in Maths and Physics... Chemistry not so much but still, one human life time is certainly not enough.
Wish I could live for at least 500 years (Earth years). |
Matthew
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Post Number: 155
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 11:57 am: |
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Adxok could be onto something in regards to Jitschi being a later incarnation of the same spirit form that animated the rabbi. The difference in personalities would demonstrate the negative effects of the Christian religion on the psyche over Judaism, which is also very flawed, but, contains more logic, is less fear-based and hence, in my view, why Jews have generally adapted and organised themselves more effectively than native Christian and Islamic populations in the last two millennia (except the Egyptians who were more advanced). Jitschi could still represent an evolution of his spirit-form from the calmer rabbi as he would be learning about the negative effects of religion (including Judasim) and so this hypothesis isn't inconsistent with the information in my view.
Matthew |
Hugo
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Post Number: 739
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 12:25 pm: |
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Rabbi Jechieli was a scientist, wizard and magician, a role Billy's spirit form did in previous lives, eg: Gallileo, and in the Nokodemion Lineage chart there is nothing listed in the 13th century.
Asket:
49. But now come. There, behind those woods, is a hunter's cabin, as you would say, or a weekend house.
50. I already know it because I have already been there twice.
51. It belongs to a rabbi named JECHIELI, who enjoys the open countryside now and then.
58. That is rabbi Jechieli's little recreation house.
59. Generally, he is called a scientist, wizard and magician, the latter certainly being incorrect.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Explanations_-_Part_3
Nokodemion Lineage chart:
https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Reference%20Material/Spiritual/Lineage-Genealogy-sec.pdf?ver=2018-07-05-143515-753
There was no reason given why Asket would visit and get to know Jechieli, but when Billy first met Asket she suggested he search his former personalities to find out why she seemed so familiar to him -
"Asket's somewhat peculiar greeting ceremony struck me as strangely familiar and known, yet with the best of will, I was unable to find out why she seemed so familiar and known to me. With a later question regarding this, Asket only smiled and explained that I should consider my other personalities in earlier lives before this current one. I found this somewhat secretive and wanted to know more, yet Asket admitted nothing more about it."
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Asket%27s_Acquaintanceship
Is it possible that Jechieli could have been a former personality of Billy's spirit form? |
Hugo
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 05:34 pm: |
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Norm, I think it's likely too.
Also, when Billy first met Asket and wondered why she seemed so familiar to him Asket suggested he look into one his previous personalities for the answer but would NOT say more about it. Asket then later took Billy to meet rabbi Jechieli for no apparent reason and did not mention why she did so. Was this Asket's way of trying to help Billy remember the former personality he knew her from, providing Jechieli was him?
I'm am going to ask Cristian Frehner if he can ask Billy if rabbi Jechieli was one of his former personalities. I will let everyone here know the response. |
Adxok
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Post Number: 10
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| | Posted on Friday, November 08, 2019 - 05:09 am: |
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Hi, Hugo
Yes, of course Jechieli could have been Billy's Spirit previous reincarnation. We (me) are only speculating.
I was curious on the fact that Asket, being an extraterrestrial, an actually - extrauniversial (made up that word just now) or extraDERNial... so, her being highly precocious with regards to encountering earthlings, allowed a russian tourist like Iljitsch Ustinov just like that to experience an encounter of a "4th kind"?!
My point is, that this is highly unlikely to have happened by pure accident.
Also we know that Iljitsch Ustinov kept it secret till the end of his life (or to when he is expected to die).
I am trying to hold on to the big picture:
1. two worlds: one is the material with our Earth and Time in it, the other one is where the Spirit resides and "waits" for the incarnations to happen
2. Belts of Times, onion layered, depending on the Speed of Light, hence I am suggesting that the Speed of Light is somehow the "border" between those layers of Time
3. Time dilation and actual travel in time
4. Three states in Time of the Earth were witnessed by Billy (by the way similar thing is described by one of the prophets from the Bible)
We can go on and on, including "atoms", gravity, star-planets, stars, Time "particles" tachyons, chronons... the subject is endless. |
Eddieamartin
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| | Posted on Friday, November 08, 2019 - 08:50 am: |
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I would advise careful thinking.
Through an email with Christian Frehner, I learned to be careful in thinking, because what is possible can easily become plausible and, then possibly true and, then it becomes true.... without a single fact to support it.
For me, what happened with Jechieli is all part of the Law of Cause & Effect. Likely not even an accident, since they went back in time, and Asket had gone back in time a number of times and met with the Rabbi, it may have been seen/known that Jechiele would meet the Rabbi and teach him about electricity.
Jechiele also gives the reader an insight into the damages and harm inflicted on us because of religions. It shows us how people can/will react when confronted with the weight and difficulty of being confronted by the truth of the reality.
Asket being "strangely familiar" to Billy likely has more to do with the Nokodemion mission. That and other Cr's also help the reader discover the mystery for ourselves, the mystery of the Seventh Prophet.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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| | Posted on Friday, November 08, 2019 - 04:33 pm: |
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Adxok,
I understand where you are coming from and why Matthew and yourself think Jitschi may have been a later reincarnation of rabbi Jechieli, but we have to look at a small common thread in all of this which is there is a history of Billy's former personalities, which weren't prophets, being personal friends with the Plejarens. Think of Ptaah with Rasputin, Keridwena with Merlin, ect. I assume probably due to his high evolution level compared to the rest of us. Because of this I think it's more likely rabbi Jechieli was a former personality of Billy and could handle ET contacts, this time from Asket. I am just speculating here and only Billy can confirm this. |
Adxok
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| | Posted on Saturday, November 09, 2019 - 03:46 pm: |
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Or maybe neither assumption we make is close to the truth. It does not matter really.
We do not have the proper evidence to support the reincarnation (theory or phenomena). I really do believe that reincarnation is a natural phenomena and probably animals are the most tangible pseudo-evidence for that.
Our life span is too short for us to be able to determine anything because we can only learn so little about Life and even if we do it is usually at the very end...
Time Travel consist of two words:
Time, Travel
Also we should not exclude the so called Speed of Light (in vacuum, empty space), so we have introduced more terms:
Speed, Light, Space ("empty")
Let's assume the we can Travel as fast as we can. This means if we would like to make a trip to the "end" of the Universe and back, it would be in a blink of an eye.
So, have we travelled? Have we moved at all... and how can we tell whether or not without measuring it with our eyes... hence light?!
My point is that it is obvious Light has much to do with how we measure actually.
It might be really true that we are made up out of Light after all. Maybe atoms are just a trapped light (or rather like a capsule or cell).
And Time is what keeps them encapsulated. I do not know much about nucleus, electrons, protons, neutrons... and how could someone have come to that idea of sub-particles and why?
Atom means indivisible... or the smallest possible unit of matter.
I still think that Time is the container which has borders all around and in-between and the border is what we call Speed of Light... it appears for us that it (might) have Speed (some individuals claim they have measured it and that is fine) and that speed is omni-directional - does not depend on the speed of the object (inertial system), meaning even if you have sped up to 99.9999999% of the Speed of Light in "empty" space, light will still be running ahead from your accelerated inertial system appearing to be unreachable.
There is a very interesting episode in one of my animated favourite movies "The Animatrix", where the subject was a sport contestant who reached beyond his physical capabilities to maximise his effort in strength and speed... so eventually he managed by this abnormal load on his body to... break out of the Matrix.
Seems like Light might be behaving in a similar way. All you have to do is accelerate and accelerate till the point of breaking the resistance of the structure of your atoms and somehow unfold their essence (or geometry) so that it merges with the Time barrier - the "edge" of the container-Time.
Then... I do not know. You disappear. :D
You can watch the scene "World record" here in YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZXgYbMWrNc}
Hello Adxok, You may not be aware of this, but FIGU requests members to post FIGU related links only. You can find a list of accepted links on the main FIGU Website. Thank you Scott-Moderator
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Matthew
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2019 - 07:06 am: |
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Think about the evolution of the the spirit form and the mission in relation to this discussion about Asket's trip in time to 13th century France.
It appears that one of the great challenges of the prophet lineage was marrying writing skills with social / oral skills, which culminated into Billy being today a great author. Let me speculate on how that may have happened...
From what has been confirmed so far, the former personalities of Billy were very significant figures throughout history, in philosophy, science and the arts and were leaders of freedom and truth movements. Therefore, Hugo's hypothesis, that the rabbi Jechiele was an incarnation of the Nokodemion spirit form isn't congruent as he was only a disciple of former French medieval rabbis from the 12th century. If Nokodemion's SF was involved, it is more likely to in relation the one of the earlier Talmudic rabbis, e.g., Rashi (Shlomo Yitzchakil; surname meaning 'rabbi of Israel') whose family were said to be of the line of David and was the teacher of Judah Messer Leon who Yechiel of Paris was a disciple of.
There's an interesting story about Rashi's father being visited by either the Voice of God or the prophet Elijah, who told him that he would be rewarded with the birth of a noble son "who would illuminate the world with his Torah knowledge." Another legend also states that as Rashi's mother, who was pregnant with him, walked down one of the narrow streets in the Jewish quarter, she was imperiled by two oncoming carriages. She turned and pressed herself against a wall, which opened to receive her. This miraculous niche is still visible in the wall of the Worms Synagogue. Rashi exerted a decisive influence on establishing the correct text of the Talmud and democractising text, making terms easier to understand. There's a monument in memory of Rashi in Troyes, France.
I'm mentioning Rashi as I'm speculating that, whilst the rabbi was not an incarnation of the Nokodemion spirit form, there may be clues here as to others who were and where the mission went after Jmmanuel and Mohammed's time and I'm also assuming that the rabbi Jechieli mentioned in 'Asket's Explanations - Part 3' is 'Yechiel of Paris', as the letter J is often used interchangeably with the letter Y as we know with the name Jmmanuel. Maybe this has been confirmed previously? The time and place fits as Yechiel died in 1268 and lived at an important time in French (and European history) in the same way that the Arthurian (Artur) legends happened at a time and for the purpose of combating the rise of Christianity (a mission also of Mohammed's). Yechiel of Paris is best known as the main defender of Judaism in the 1240 Disputation of Paris held at the court of Louis IX, where he argued against the Christian convert Nicholas Donin. Nicholas Donin was working to undermine the 'blasphemous' Talmud in the Disputation of 1240 and charged that the Talmud was a noxious document that prevented the Jews from embracing Christianity and he brought a total of 35 distinct accusations against the holy text. Ultimately, 24 carriage loads of Talmuds, representing 10,000 manuscripts were burned in Paris on June 6, 1242 and another twenty-four carriage loads in 1244 and the Talmud was effectively banned by the Church from thereon. This was the first formal Christian-Jewish disputation held in medieval Christendom.
In defence of accusations of slanderous quotes in the Talmud against the founder of Christianity, Yechiel argued that the references to Yeshu in fact refer to different individuals. The important point is that Yechiel, if he was indeed Yechiel of Paris, was part of a line of Talmudic rabbis who all supported that the historical Jesus had been misnamed in some way, was different people and these efforts would be supported by the Plejaren. These medieval rabbis so successfully challenged church orthodoxy that their books ended up being burned and outright banned.
Now do you see a possible connection?
Matthew |
Adxok
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2019 - 09:58 am: |
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Hi, Scott
I'm sorry for overlooking the list of acceptable links we can post in our messages. I'll try not to paste any links from now on.
Matthew,
Those subjects related to (relegious) religious things maybe are not so obviously related to TIme Travel to me, unless Asket had to show their incarnation and development on Earth through the ages.
I have my own theory regarding those matters, but also I do think that some type of religious behaviour might have been in development even before the self-proclaimed god of Hanaan (Hen Jehova) started his selfish endeavour to occupy and gather certain people under his and only his rule.
Also I do think that Jmmanuel's mission was partially related to get the influence of that individual decreased.
I also think the Tempter in the desert where Jmmanuel spend some time with him or with an agent of his, was exactly that type of confrontation between a ruler who wants to get his enemy (prophet among his men) closer to his circle or why not even earn him as an ally.
I think Jmmanuel did good by not revealing his capabilities (supernatural powers), as otherwise that could have cost him a lot. Well, it did cost him a lot at the end as we already know.
Another aspect of this whole mind-war was the fact the Jmmanuel got crucified after all... and apparently his "angels" couldn't do much about his suffering. Makes me wonder was that on purpose or what?!
There is another aspect I would like to put in the discussion and that might seem quite controversial or even inappropriate, but...
Why should we even trust the Plejarens? What if they have their own agenda of making or forming us to be like them, whilst we clearly can not be?
What if their agenda is much obscure with regards of favouring this or that nation or race.
Clearly they have withdrawn form Earth, so all that might have been just a project for them, to prove their commitment to fulfil a mission given to them by their Council of Elders or Superiors.
I am aware that their life span is sever times greater than ours, so we possibly are clueless of what their involvement to Earth's affairs is all about.
They certainly do not know everything, I am just asking my questions form as many points of view I can think about. |
Scott
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2019 - 12:33 pm: |
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Adxok,
I think according to the conversations between Eduard (Billy) and Jmmanuel, (Plejadisch-plejarische Kontakberichte, Gespräche, Block 1)
Page Number(s): 346) Jmmanuel's suffering was not without purpose:
Eduard
That is so, I know, yet shortly you will also face a very difficult test.
Dem ist so, ich weiss, doch auch du stehst kurz vor einer sehr schweren Prüfung.
Jmmanuel
22. Life demands all sorts of things, as you say.
22. Das Leben fordert vielerlei Dinge, wie du es nennst.
23. But we must tread our path and traverse it in honour and in fulfilment of the laws.
23. Wir müssen aber unseren Pfad beschreiten und ihn in Ehre und in Erfüllung der Gesetze begehen.
24. As I will tread my path, so will you also tread yours, and in the same way every human will always have his own path to traverse.
24. Wie ich meinen Weg beschreiten werde, so wirst auch du den deinen beschreiten, und ebenso wird jeder Mensch immer seinen eigenen Weg zu begehen haben.
Scott |
Adxok
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| | Posted on Monday, November 11, 2019 - 11:47 am: |
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Hi, Scott
Thanks for the quotes. Indeed, it is really interesting all that agenda with the Time-Travel Asket accomplished for Billy to show him ancient times.
From purely Physics point of view it is still immensely intriguing for me how they materialised going back in time.
Could that have been only a highly sophisticated/advanced VR-CGE (virtual reality computer generated environment)? We know and can see our first steps into that field.
Imagine the Timers (Asket's people) being millions of years more advanced than us, what they could have achieved (being able even to get across universes, as claimed in the Contact notes).
Please, I do not want to appear as the next adversary with regards to Billy's credibility and his Contact Notes (quite the contrary to be honest). I only want to know the Truth!
This is how I understand Travelling in Time:
I am travelling in Time even now. We all are. From the present to the 'next present' (future) in a linear fashion. And my thought is only capable of recalling moments back in time (to e certain extent).
Now, if I were to travel Back in Time, that would have applied me getting younger and everything around me (maybe even the whole Universe) doing a reverse motion (for the universe it will also imply a slight shrinking, if we accept the fact that it is expanding right now). But that is not Travelling it is a Reversing.
A travel would be: me getting on a transportation device (or thought isolation mode!), letting the process of Reverse happen and then again I would have to reappear as ~~~ continuing ~~~ my Present linear Time-frame. Hence form my perspective this Time Travel was actually like an experience in my "normal" Present state of being.
Of course that would be a contradictory turn of events. Hence, when travelling in Time, we need some kind of isolation from everything else material in the Universe or something like it.
But here is the tricky part. We still would need our bodies in some intact form and shape, wouldn't we?! And our thoughts at Present or some kind of neutral from Time/Space/Matter state.
Then, though, the whole Universe had been shrunk a little bit, but does this mean our bodies
Then we reaper in our Past... by familiar surroundings we encounter the house of hour grandfather and... kill him. Billy had a revolver prepared for his visit back in the time of dinosaurs "just in case...", meaning he could kill some living entity in the Past Time-frame.
Unless it all has been a highly advanced visual representation of our Earth's past, skilfully preformed by Asket (I am highly speculating on this, so please, excuse my disbelief). And of course it could not be true, because Billy certainly claimed, he had made certain items Back in Time and found them in Present days (as old relics), which may or ma not be proven (carbon dating or with other means).
Yet... let's not forget about our concept of matter, atoms (ancient theory of inseparable unit of matter) and all those fact we have taken for granted such as:
atoms have wave-like "particles" in the division of electrons, protons, neutrons, radioactivity (transmitting those wave-like particles), etc.
How on Earth has someone came up with this idea? Certainly we can see the effect on amber (means electron) being rubbed against fur or hair, thus expressing attraction force feature to small splinters (non-metallic by the way... which is very interesting).
So, yes... let's take it for real that objects can be magnetised or at least polarised of some sort. Then earthed they loose those features till the next rubbing against fur or skin.
There are so many question I can ask... thousands. Some I have asked to physicists and they think it is only in my imagination. Maybe... but how would they differ from imagining protons, neutrons, etc. in a first place. I do not get it really.
My point is all this must have relation to Time, Space... even Gravity and Light.
They say, well massive objects (gathering of mass) produces Gravity (attraction force). Yes, we observe that with "massive objects" like stars/planets... maybe asteroids as well, I do not know though?
But no one has ever proven it to be correct. No one has ever built or gather enough mass/matter to prove that gathering of matter will inevitably starting to produce Gravity.
And yes, I am aware of Newtons law of gravity... where he even speaks about two massive objects, not one! |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Some info for the man with many questions (Good on you!) – Adxok -
Gravity
The first step to control gravity would normally*) be a spiritual and feeling based evolution, “which means that the described forces can physically be controlled just as the human creature has freed himself from the "weight" of non-spiritual necessities. “
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15349.html#POST80041
The problem is because we Earth humans are “thinking too much of" the material aspect of life / seeing us too much as material only beings– that is why we cannot let the spiritual take charge of our material entity:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/8904.html#POST31731
Interested? More details are here:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_066 Read from CR 66:80 on
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*) It should be noted that anti-gravity may well have been known realized already in the seventies – without any spiritual evolution it seems – as this video tells:
http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=next&topic=14&page=14408
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14522.html#POST77724
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Subatomic Particles
As for your questions re. subatomic particles read CR 70 Translation Part 1:
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_070
And this should all be viewed within a more universal aspect which is based on a seven-ness:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1157.html#POST87445
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Long Life
And finally … since your other interest was to live longer, I had a look in this, too:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1157.html#POST87581
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- Right-click MS's "Edge" top-textbox (containing the words "Search or enter web" |
Tat_tvam_asi
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PS
Time travel really is perplexing … E.g. where is hyperspace located (is this a different belt of the universe or o/s the universe) Is any dematerialization – materialization a form of time travel? How can the same spirit form be there twice (e.g. Billy and Jmmanuel) – So there are many questions and you are not alone the one who left wondering… |
Channel_z
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 07:25 am: |
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Hi folks,
Regarding the discussion as to whether Iljitsch Ustinov was the reincarnation of rabbi Jechieli, the interesting thing is that both names have a value of 3. The "cute" nickname, Jitschi, is a 6 or inversely (reverse full reduction) a 3. If we take the word "rabbi" away and just leave Jechieli we get a 7.
It is my opinion that Adxok is on to something....
Cheers!
Anthony |
Kenneth
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 07:26 am: |
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Hi Adxok
You appear to be well read on many subjects including much of Billy’s material and ask a lot of interesting questions, this is, in part, what this FIGU Forum is all about.
Materialised (materialized) is an interesting word; which also means coming into existence. To be accurate, this would not be the proper wording to use, as Billy and the Plejaren already exist. Maybe a better wording would be to appear, or simply, transported or even teleported?
You may be aware when Billy’s son (Methi) walked into one of the rooms at the SSSC and inadvertently confronted one of the Plejaren (Sfath?) that was looking for Billy, both were startled. According to Methusalem, Sfath reached for an object attached to his belt and disappeared in front of his eyes. There are other accounts where the Plejaren teleported Billy from a beamship to various locations in and around the SSSC.
Point being, this does not appear to have been a “sophisticated/advanced VR-CGE (Virtual reality computer generated environment)”. This seems to employ very similar technologies in teleporting (transported across space and distance instantly.) and entire beamship? Not to be confused with beamships jumping from one dimension to another within a minute.
You said; “…if I were to travel Back in Time, that would have applied me getting younger…” This appears to be stuff of Sci-Fi movies etc. You do not get younger as you go back in time as all of this is taking place in the Material belt. You cannot change events that have already occurred, which includes aging, when you think about it.
You said, “…Time Travel was actually like an experience in my "normal" Present state of being…” This is my understanding; if we are on the same wavelength?
It’s my understanding that the universe does not shrink when traveling back in time. However, as we know the universe is currently in an expansion mode. If I understand you correctly, are you saying that the universe would be at a different state of, or lesser expansion status as you travel back in time? This would be my understanding as well.
As previously mentioned, you could travel back in time (the past) and kill something or someone, but that will not change events that have already occurred. In other words, killing your grandfather would not have the effect of making his descendants (offspring) disappear. That’s Hollywood theatrics.
You said, “…real that objects can be magnetised or at least polarised of some sort. Then earthed they loose those features till the next rubbing against fur or skin…”. If I’m understanding you correctly, you’re comparing static electricity with gravitational force or attraction? This is really not comparing apples to apples.
You may have seen a video of one of the astronauts in the International Space Station performing an experiment with water droplets? When placing water droplets in the confines of the ISS weightless environment, some droplets orbited one another and eventually collapsed making one larger droplet. Other droplets stayed suspended and eventually the gravitational attraction of each caused them to join into each other creating larger droplets. This was a big breakthrough in our scientists understanding of gravitational attraction…
This should answer your statement; “But no one has ever proven it to be correct. No one has ever built or gather enough mass/matter to prove that gathering of matter will inevitably starting to produce Gravity.”
Regards
Kenneth |
Scott
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Post Number: 2952
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 07:56 am: |
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Hello Kenneth,
Do you recall where you came across Methusalem accidentally meeting Sfath? I was under the impression Billy's contacts with Sfath occurred much earlier in his life. I could be wrong, but I don't recall ever hearing this before.
Thanks
Scott |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1055
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 08:12 am: |
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Hi Scott,
As I recall, this incident was in a video filmed on the SSSC location. Methusalem said that this person looked like an elderly man, (gray hair). Could this have been Sfath’s son Ptaah? If I can locate this video again, I’ll reference it for you.
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2953
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 08:40 am: |
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Thank you Kenneth
If you can that would be great.
Regards
Scott |
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