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Hugo
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Post Number: 751
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2019 - 03:27 pm: | 
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MH,
Did Billy tell you the manipulations done to his off line computer by this "present" group on Earth were responsible for the death threats only, or as well as the falsifying of the spirit teachings before he was to publish them too? I thought it would only be the death threats they did because what purpose is it for them to manipulate spirit teachings that only appear to benefit a much future time/agenda when Billy's teachings are widespread and known by many?
Also, it does not add up how they/we now have a technology that is beyond the Plejarens? This is also why I question if it is two groups from two time periods (present and future) responsible for all that -
Ptaah:
43. Anyway, that corresponds to the whole thing, which would cause all these events in the Center, representing a technology, which, although not unknown, is still not available to us, in the manner that we could apply it without hesitation, because we are only at the advanced beginnings of our exploration of this, not, however, that we are already able to develop this for application. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2088
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 02:38 am: |
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Hi Kenneth I was involved in some Bechtel projects in the past and wondered why of all corporations around the world this private company gets the biggest and the best projects around the world even here in Australia with the LNG projects up north.
As the saying goes follow the money but I decided to follow the people.
I wasn't suprised in the least.
One of the Bechtels according to my memory was the president of CFR.
Brendan Bechtel is also a member.
Past notable employees were george schultz among others.
You may as well call this group 'The Dark Order' or at least some of the members.
As for your question it'll be interesting as to what the nature of the next round of attacks against Billy are going to be and by whom it was fomented from but seeing as the CFR has an iron grip over the mass media outlets maybe the brainchild of the next conspiracy agaibst Billy may just come from some affiliated section of the CFR.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1062
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, November 25, 2019 - 10:22 am: |
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Hi Matt & All,
I assume that when you say CFR that you are referring to The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) founded in 1921. This is basically a think-tank for international affairs and world operations. They admittedly influence the general public on U.S. precedency nominations through various means.
The CFR group devised an expanded group called "Americans for Dwight D. Eisenhower" to increase his chances for the presidency. However, in 1961 when Eisenhower was leaving office, he gave the nation a dire warning about what he described as a threat to democratic government. He called it the Military-Industrial Complex (MIC), a formidable union of defense contractors and the armed forces.
You mentioned, “Past notable employees were George Schultz…” Not aware of Schultz? But if you’re referring to George Pratt Shultz, he was a United States Secretary of the Treasury, and later Secretary of State appointed by President Ronald Reagan. This administration initiated the Star Wars Program, later renamed the Strategic Defense Initiative. The company that I was working for at the time was a sub-contractor to this SDI operation.
Bechtel, a global engineering and construction project management company, appears to be an integral part of the MIC and more than likely where the terrestrial UFO crafts have been developed from reverse engineering of crashed extraterrestrial UFO’s, of which according to the Plejaren there were nine; none of Plejaren origin. Logically, of interest to the MIC, among other things would also be the ET ships capabilities of time travel and dimension travel. If the Military-Industrial Complex does manipulate the U.S. Government, then NASA is one of their puppets. This could very well be the foundation of the UFO’s from the future.
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2091
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2019 - 11:53 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth
Thanks for more indepth information.
Yes that's right Kenneth the council on foreign relations.
I got my spelling wrong but yes he is the one but would believe even the actor Shirley Mclain's brother is a member for god sakes.
No wonder Shirley is AWOL on any further assistance to the mission who by the way employs Brit Elders hows that for a weird connection.
Matt lee |
Hugo
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Post Number: 754
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 11:40 am: |
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MH, can you please answer my question? |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1420
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 06:01 pm: |
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Hi Hugo,
Sorry, it's been busy around here.
I don't know if there is more than one group. Meier had also told me previously about the changing of texts on his computer, etc.
There really isn't much we can do with this info at this time, other than marvel at it. And the Plejaren may well have their own reasons - and timing - in regard to how, when and by what means they decide to go further, if indeed they do. |
Adxok
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2019 - 01:43 pm: |
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Interesting to read that some remote intrusion has been happening to Billy's offline computer. Offline, if I remember correctly form previous post by Michael_horn.
I do not know if that would help, but maybe it's time for Billy or his assistants to install Linux. I do not know if that would help, as the intervention would happen anyway (offline), but certainly could make a difference.
Of course depending on the distribution of Linux, it is not the most user friendly OS, though nowadays it has some full stack features for the modern day user.
Is it possible that we might have some Bafath's pupils or successors, who might be still in possession of some unknown equipment for remote targeting normal electronic equipment? (just speculating)
And how the plejarens could do anything about it if they are no longer involved into the matters of us earthlings? I think Billy has only sporadic telepathic contacts with them at this point.
We quite got astray from the subject of Time Travel though. |
Scott
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Post Number: 2962
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2019 - 06:32 pm: |
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Yes you did and everyone else.... |
Hugo
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Post Number: 757
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2019 - 10:30 pm: |
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MH, so the deliberate manipulations done to Billy's spiritual teachings books on his computer just before publications could have been done by future earth time travelers as Ptaah had first suspected below? And the ones responsible for sending the death threats to Billy's computer are present day people?
Billy:
Also, there is the matter of when I write something on the computer and then later something completely different is expressed and it often has the opposite of that which I have written, or that entire paragraphs or individual words disappear or are altered, which is just as strange as many other occurrences which go along the same lines and have already often created irritation.
And this has been going on for years, and it looks as if any number of goblins, were such to exist, want to drive us mad.
Ptaah:
33. This is certainly not the case, because goblins are mythical creatures which have never existed, as you have immediately corrected your remark.
34. We cannot explain all these incidents either. However, I have a suspicion that any number of human entities from another dimension are making mischief - perhaps out of the terrestrial future, whereby a justification for that, however, appears to be extremely puzzling.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_433 |
Adxok
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 03:40 am: |
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True, Scott... and I do apologise.
So let's get back on track.
There won't be fully and complete understanding regarding the 'concept' of Time travelling without agreeing on the terms (both). The second one 'travelling' is quite easy. The first one Time is a subject of discussion for millennia, tackled by scientists, philosophers and... us. 
What is Time? (I am not talking about measuring it, because...) Because we usually would measure it involving the other term - travelling. The arms of the clock travel, rotate on a circle or change cycling consecutive numbers. Measuring time is not Time by itself.
On the other hand, when we get unconscious (get asleep or under some type of other self-induced or generally induced hypnosis), we lose a sense of Time passing or the movement of things around us. So, could be or is it actually Time related to Thought? Because I think it is.
Same applies to what we call Memory. My understanding is, that if you really think about it, when we 'try to remember' we enter in some state of very basic auto-hypnosis. And usually it is related to things happening in the Past. Not to mention that there are alleged experiments with people undergoing a typical hypnotic procedure, after which they remember precise details from memory scenes that happened to them ages, decades in the Past.
So is this technically a Time travel as well? That leads us to the next prerequisite - the travel part. We think of it as moving our bodies from one place in Space to another with a reference point - object (a place on a planet, among stars, etc.).
So usually the more correct expression in this case would be: Space-Time travel.
And here we come to the next conclusion:
if we only mean to travel in Space, then we usually travel in linear fashion in the respective Time (where that Space is confined)
if we inly mean to travel in Time (memory, thought) then we also do travel in the respective Space (because everything is moving), though not relative to a referent object (building, planet, star)
if we intend to travel in both Space and Time, then we enter in a unknown subject or matter (maybe even literally in 'unknown matter'), where everything we know such as Light, Speed, Matter, Direction might have a different meaning. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 562
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 07:57 am: |
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2092
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 04:53 pm: |
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Adxok from what I understand about the logic behind time travel although its less than puny is that I realised that time exists independent of human beings so time travel doesn't equate with thought travel or thought/consciousness projection and thought recall.
Chronons I believe are tightly integrated into space and all matter Creation/universe creates that I don't think you could seperate it from the existential state of any matter or anything (although you can manipulate it like Samjase did to a tree by reversing time on it to eliminate it) within the domain of Creation/universe therefore in essence you could liken it to a tree ring in that it leaves permanent markers and if you could use another analogy you could equate it with a long string from beginning of the spiritual universal bigbang right up to the end of it.
All of us are just hanging off it I guess and can go back and forth and forwards as we wish provided we have the technology to do so.
It is stated that all Creations/universes receives its finest of energies from the other belts meaning that it also receives energies from the higher Absolute Absolutum via the ram belt this means that out 4th material belt and others are one with every other Creations and every levels of the Absolutums all the way to the mysterious Absolute nothing and possibly even beyond that and cannot come into existence or exist independently outside of the existence of every other.
This means that time is not just everywhere outside of Creation, inside of Creation, within Creation and within also the body of a human being but also the other side of Creation in null time and null space in hyperspace, other dimensions and the beyond.
If time permeates everything and existed way before out Creation/universe was created then this phenomena or what I believe is 1 of 7 natural forces is not the creation of creation but a creation of higher Absolute nothing or even the form beyond it.
Now why is there even this thing called 'Time' where everything is subjected to its powers and of decay/passing.
Well I think it makes no logic to the meaning of existence if 'a thing' be it anything lasts forever that is material.
Otherwise material existence will be impossible due to what has been created overcrowding and conjesting everything which will come after so there will be no renewal, development nor progress.
So maybe time is just a fail safe mechanism for Creation and higher forms of Creations to evolve and progress to the next stage and the storage bank is a giant external CCTV camera with an equally giant hardisk recording everything just for the record and to keep the bastards honest.
Time travel would just be like viewing your albums from time to time reminescing about the good old times.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1103
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 05:20 pm: |
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Yes, Adxok - where actually is - hyperspace?
How do we address this destination?
What time /space coordinates?
Is it a belt/part of our universe at all?
Is it the beyond?
It seems we talk about something (time travel) we do not know much at all …
Bill |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 575
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 03:29 am: |
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Gday Hugo
My Thoughts.
The Law of Striving and Law of Balance, maybe even polarity comes into play.
Dont forget the contact note was about 13 years ago though.
Also sometimes it takes a Terran born to have an answer to issues that r Terran, thats one reason why the 144 228 are here. Lets not forget the lessons are from the obstacles, you/We our mates are ALL at school, we are going to teach our mates howto shine just as much as they will teach us, just know that you can, and be cool, put on your light, the darkness teaches us, its a vital part of existence, its just a veil that is always removed. Reverence n venerability, neutral positivity, fearless a must, these r some of our keys. I am grateful to incarnate where there is what seems such a task, its what makes life worth living, overcoming all things, especially when others think of impossibility, put your light on and seek knowledge,wisdom and Love.
If we are looking at our mates to solve everything we are on the way to worshiping, i know the dark side is Fracked good and proper, its because i can work things out myself as learnt from The Teaching, First i fix myself,then the street, then the town, The World is at My Feet, everyone will learn that.
I am greateful for every obstacle even though it is a concern, my greatest thoughts/evolution r from what i will overturn.
7We all realise the gravity of the situation and to stand upto that and overcome it is one of The Greatest chances at gaining evolution (Even for Nokodemjon and the 144 228) in all of The Creation.49
Our mates are no different, i ask myself that i can assist them and i will understand some issues better as i am born Terran. I know i can as i ask my Spirit for what i want. It is so i already read GOT. Our mates are on a different level, from that they sometimes dont understand the lower level, thats where WE come in. eh eh. Just know we can, it is so. (When i say level its not really a level just a different working of The Creations Law.I say this as we shouldnt look down on things thinking we are superior)
In our mission we restore the balance,i think we shouldnt overstep that, its provised by the 7 cycles. (All Great Times is a WE-Form too,everyone as one in all times) and Arahat Athersata etc... as The Creation recommends this.
We restore the balance, otherwise its degeneration.
I am also grateful to experience life without The Teaching and then with it and compare the difference! Wowzer. I ask my spirit to remember for all great times and in my next lives i can start early so i will be a better teacher and healer.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 563
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 08:42 am: |
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Accordingly, The Ps timed traveled on the request of BEAM for the mission. BEAM wanted some "specific" information regarding the mission. The Ps do not use time travel as a daily part of their lives, in order words, the Ps like all advanced human being use their consciousness to development themselves according to the Creational laws and recommendations. The Ps do not attempt to "leap frog" over their developmental responsibilities (via their consciousness) and "cheat" by time traveling without "specific" reasons. How about attempt to decipher contact note 251 (that's considered time traveling information).
MsMichelle
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Scott
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Post Number: 2963
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 10:32 am: |
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MsMichelle,
Without going to far off topic, Contact 8 seems to indicate the Plejarens do have the ability to leap frog over their "developmental responsibilities" when needed:
73. This means that, for example, these acids can be taken from one brain and be genetically modified, in order to replant them into another brain.
73. Das heisst, dass z.B. diese Säuren einem Gehirn entnommen und genverändert werden können, um sie in ein anderes Gehirn wieder einzupflanzen.
74. As a result, entire races of life-forms can be brought to an equal level of essence of wisdom, knowledge, and intelligence without each individual being having to go through the different evolutionary periods.
74. Dadurch können ganze Lebensformrassen auf einen einheitlichen Weisheits-, Wissens- und Intelligenzstand gebracht werden, ohne dass jedes einzelne Wesen die verschiedenen Evolutionsperioden durchlaufen muss.
75. In this way, even a new spirit form (which the human being of Earth often mistakenly refers to as mentally ill and idiotic) can be turned into a highly developed knowledge and life-form.
75. Dadurch kann selbst eine Neugeistform (die der Erdenmensch oft irrtümlich als geisteskrank und idiotisch bezeichnet) zu einer hochentwickelten Wissens- und Lebensform gemacht werden. |
Matthew
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 11:04 am: |
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Ilovebilly,
There aren't 144,228 ET human beings in the reincarnation cycle on Earth is my understanding, as nice as it ties into...
Revelation 14:1:
Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.
There are actually 575,914 ET humans who remained on Earth...
Contact Report 650
31. If for a moment … yes here yes, our annals refer to a number of eight different emigration powers of 144,000 persons each and 228 superiors each, who came to Earth in the course of more than two million years from the Nokodemion descendant peoples.
32. And here is a total number of 1,151,828 people who were involved.
33. Of these persons, 575,914 remained on Earth, died there and are born again with their old reincarnating spirit forms as new personalities.
That means as many counterparts in the Universe, a blood family, with some having better genes and technology.
Matthew |
Hugo
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Post Number: 758
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 11:35 am: |
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Ilovebilly, I am not sure if you accidentally meant your post to be addressed to someone else instead of me because I don't see how it refers to my questioning of the possibility that the manipulations done to Billy's spiritual teachings on his computer were done by future Earth time travelers as Ptaah had originally suspected? |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 564
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 10:24 pm: |
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Scott, they can, but for "specific" reasons only...right? Not just for entertainment purposes
MsMichelle
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 576
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2019 - 11:50 pm: |
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Gday Hugo
You have several posts on this page, my thoughts are to both and to other things worth mentioning to everyone, not just you, sorry if i didnt mention that.
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Adxok
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 02, 2019 - 05:50 am: |
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The more I know, the more I realise how much I got left that is unknown.
I still do not know what is the real purpose of CERN (and its hadron collider). Ok, they will wind "The God's particle". So what? Then what?
It just does not make sense to spend billions of € and $ just to find the "particle" of all particles.
I think our lifespan is so short that the moment you realise something about life and you more than half of it has passed.
I think change and evolution in thought, practise, experience is more important. And our world has got stagnant in those.
Anyway... I would like to understand Time Travel, but without experimentation it will be just a chit-chat about it.} |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1104
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 02, 2019 - 08:22 am: |
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“Leapfrogging”
One would understand if this technique was used on Billy as a child (i.e. when he received his “same consciousness as an adult man” from Sfath) because (if so) this was to assist the Plejaren mission.
But when we read that the Plejaren finally healed their fallible ones from their wrongdoing via gene technology, saving them from being transported to places of fulfilment (CR 217) **) and that they were released from their endless warfare by a disk that brought sudden, lasting peace to them some 50,000 years ago….
… then the question appears why this 'leapfrogging' is not available to Earth humans – why for them reaping the effects of their deeds is the one and only compelling method.
Yes, acc. to the Plejaren, we are the most aggressive humans in the universe.
And yes, I may not know all the facts to judge well.
But were Earthlings not gene-manipulated by Sirians?
Did not the Gize Intel, a Plejaren splinter group, promote ‘aggression and false beliefs’ ?
In view of Sfath’s, Ptaah’s, Semjase’s and Quetzal’s sincere, heartfelt and great efforts I very much hesitate to say so. But so I live on this planet, so I speak for this planet. ***)
Salome, Bill
**) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_217
CR 217:21
This meant that gradually the places of fulfilment of guidelines became superfluous and eliminated.
German: Das bedeutet, dass nach und nach die Massnahmeerfüllungsorte überflüssig und aufgehoben wurden.
***)
The Evolution of A Prison Planet: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80121
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80141 |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 881
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 02, 2019 - 09:54 am: |
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It's more likely that the tampering of computers was originally a CIA adventure and the results were that the computer's back door was left open for any hackers as per WikiLeaks Vault 7.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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