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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1424
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 10:06 am: | 
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Regarding Kal Korff:
https://theyflyblog.com/2019/12/17/exposing-the-real-ufo-hoax/ |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2985
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2020 - 03:42 pm: |
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Michael,
I haven't posted your post regarding your "Go fund Me" until I hear from Christian, I just wanted to make sure it was ok, I'll let you.
Scott |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1433
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2020 - 11:58 am: |
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The UFO Cover-up Is Over
The ongoing authenticated UFO contacts with an advanced ET race freely offer humankind specific solutions to environmental destruction, energy needs, asteroid protection, wars, terrorism, cancer & saving tens of millions of lives from volcanic eruptions and more.
The rest is up to us. If you wish to help with this effort:
http://gf.me/u/w9rinb |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1170
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2020 - 07:47 am: |
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>>> SOCRATES AND BILLY <<<
Some character traits in the persona of these 2 men show striking similarities:
1. Not lecturing (but seeking information from) the one to teach
Socrates' style was so very different to the other “philosophers” and "scientists" we know.
Instead of trying to convince others or teach them his opinion, he enquired information from them.
That is, when he started a discussion with the people he met in Athen’s Agora^) it looked like he wanted to learn from them. So, he asked question after question. Until the questioners realized the flaws in their arguments.
It is the same with Billy and both Earth humans and the Plejaren.
Like Socrates’ “students” – the Plejaren and us - ultimately realized that this was his way of teaching. That -
- Knowledge does not mature if it is forced onto another person.
- It must evolve from one’s own experience / “Aha -that is so …” insight. ^^)
And for those that want to teach the truth:
They must never seek to destroy the independence of the one that seeks the truth ^^^)
2. Equality of all human beings
Socrates said that a slave has the potential to use his reasoning mind and common sense like ay other human being.
"He called the philosophy down from the sky and established it in the cities, introduced it in the homes and forced it to investigate life, ethic, good and evil..." (Cicero - Roman lawyer and philosopher)
3. Not taking money for his teachings
Different to many other “philosophers” of his time (e.g. the sophists) Socrates did not teach for money, ever.
Billy has a very similar “anti-material” character trait:
The Plejaren tried many times to convince him that living in a material world would necessitate to be at least “somewhat material minded” – it was to no avail: He had given his word to Sfath *) and he told them that “this was necessary to complete his task”. That this was part of his persona fulfilling the law **)
4. Socratic Irony ('Feigning Ignorance')
The CRs are filled with many instances in which Billy purports to be ignorant and the Plejaren ultimately learning that he n]knew more than they did. We may infer that this was his way to make the Plejaren reveal as much of their immense knowledge as possible for the benefit of us Earth humans… and challenging them to be somewhat understanding that we Earth humans, surrounded by the swinging wave of a prison planet, with comparably very short life-spans, and no peace-bringing spheres balancing the excesses in our gene-manipulated minds, that we are necessarily much more irrational and erratic than they are.
These are not words we would ever hear from the Plejaren. But Billy may see us and them in a deeper and different human oneness^^^^) –
I think it may well be the essence of his greatly loving and compassionate mind to do what is necessary not only to bring back the truth to Earth humans but to establish a balance that assists both, the Plejaren and our terrestrial evolution ... A first step to establish a reunion of all his human races.
Salome, Bill
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^) Greek agora = (Lit. “gathering place / assembly”) market place
^^)
Socrates often compared his teaching to his mother work.
His mother was a midwife, helping others to give birth.
In the same way Socrates saw his “teaching”: His questions were to give impulses only.
But the acceptance (“birth”) of a new “insight/understanding ” had not to come from the “helper” but from the one that asked the question: Only the 'understanding from within one’s own' is of true value, leads to lasting knowledge.
^^^) “Never would an honest and true announcer and teacher of the truth want to deprive you of your independence …” (Genesis Verse 169)
^^^^) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/17188.html#POST87374
*) CR 39:105 -109 (Ptaah speaking)
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_039
See as well http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/5553.html#POST87889
**) In CR 723 (latest Figu ZZ) Billy tells Ptaah:
”…...as an Earth human being, I, like every Earth human being, simply have to do my duty. And since it is my duty to say what is necessary, so I do it, which, on the one hand, is only allowed to me to give prophetic warnings about factors that may happen in the future due to wrong behaviour of the Earth human beings.
But on the other hand, by making probability calculations or by publicly stating what I could see together with Sfath or [what] he [could see] alone in the future, so as to warn mankind and tell it what will happen if they continue to muddle along destroying, devastating and exterminating in certain ways and continue to irresponsibly breed the overpopulation like rabbits.
And as a third factor, I can and may only mention predictions that will certainly come true and which, through clear foresight, will clearly and irrevocably come true, so that nothing more can be done and done about it…”
German Original
„ …als Mensch der Erde, habe ich, wie eben jeder Erdling, einfach meine Pflicht zu erfüllen. Und da es eben meine Pflicht ist, das Notwendige zu sagen, so tue ich es, was mir aber einerseits nur in der Weise erlaubt ist, prophetische Warnungen vorzubringen bezüglich Faktoren, die durch falsche Verhaltensweisen der Erdlinge zukünftig geschehen können.
Anderseits aber, indem ich Wahrscheinlichkeitsberechnungen mache oder öffentlich das nenne, was ich zusammen mit Sfath oder er allein zukünftig sehen konnte, um dann die Menschheit zu warnen und ihr zu sagen was geschehen wird, wenn sie weiterhin in bestimmten Weisen zerstörend, vernichtend und ausrottend dahinwurstelt sowie die Überbevölkerung weiterhin verantwortungslos wie Karnickel heranzüchtet.
Und als dritter Faktor kann und darf ich nur Voraussagen nennen, die bestimmt eintreffen werden und die durch klare Vorausschauen sich klar und unwiderruflich ergeben werden, folgedem also nichts mehr dagegen unternommen und getan werden kann…“ |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1171
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2020 - 08:35 am: |
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Correction -
instead of: Until the questioners realized the flaws in their arguments.
it should read: Until those doubting Socrates realized the flaws in their arguments. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1123
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2020 - 09:12 am: |
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Tat_tvam-asi
Re; Post # 1170
Very well articulated. It was only recently that I ventured to again read a few of the Contact Reports. I immediately noticed a profound difference this time around. I was able to recognize the creational recommendations that both Billy and the Plejaren exercise and practise. This was very interesting because I had never recognized this when I first read through them.
It is exactly as you say in your post#1170, wherein Billy uses the leading thought/questions to bring about an evolutive answer. I now have a renewed fascination with the CR's just to see how these highly evolved individuals have more than cultivated the creational recommendations, but actually live them and apply them. To me it opens doors in the CR's that I never knew were there. Your post reveals this to the readers of present and future times. As more people read and study the spiritual teaching, they too will recognize this as well and open many doors. Thank you for your work, as I find your posts very enlightening and a joy to read.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1436
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2020 - 11:28 am: |
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CBS NEWS Interviews Michael Horn on Billy Meier UFO Case
https://youtu.be/OKNgRhQU_5U
Historic mainstream coverage of Meier prophecies and evidence |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3001
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2020 - 12:34 pm: |
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Thanks Michael, I saw this interview this morning....yes Historic !! |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1174
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 07:47 am: |
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Thank you, Eddy.
Thank you, Michael. This truly is a great interview! |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2172
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 01:30 pm: |
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Congratulations Michael what an amazing start to the new year.
Now I realise just why Billy says that by 2029 many people will acknowledge the genuineness of his contacts with the Plejaren.
Matt lee |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 75
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2020 - 03:05 am: |
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I wonder if this was an authorized interview by CBS. If yes there might be a lot of evil behind it...wish you strength Michael! |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2181
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2020 - 02:46 pm: |
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Jokubas what are you talking about.
Its called effort, striving and toil where you keep knocking despite the many rejections and falls.
This takes patience, dedication, hard work, persistence, labour of love, inner strength, the undying dedication and commitment to the truth, the expression of living by the truth and the Creative spiritual principles and the trust in oneself.
So let's give Michael and those who have given the truth the support it deserves the credit where credit is definitely due and not to some undefined hand of evil where evil sees no reason to advertise the good.
Matt lee |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 76
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2020 - 10:44 pm: |
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Newinitiation, what I wanted to express is that all mainstream media is influenced by secret service and the info that reaches population is controlled and rarely something slips through without a plan or purpose behind it. Ofcourse Michael is doing tremendous job informing public there is no doubt about it. I am not questioning his tireless work. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 633
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2020 - 09:27 am: |
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It's also important to used the past experiences with the media and evolve the interactions and exchanges with the media. Personally, this will entice those sitting on the sidelines with "their hands folded" and encourage those thousand of other spiritual people "studying and participating via meditation during the Peace Meditation" to come forward and be more visibly active without fear or retaliation.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2183
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 27, 2020 - 10:28 pm: |
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That's ok jokubas just checking.
Matt lee |
Scott
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Post Number: 3008
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, January 31, 2020 - 11:59 am: |
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Here is another interview by Michael Horn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ceuUxN2YU |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1437
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2020 - 07:48 pm: |
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Here is the page with some of the TV and radio interviews from stations in:
NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cedar Rapids, etc.
https://theyflyblog.com/2020/01/19/cover-up-over-as-media-reveals-billy-meiers-ufo-contacts/
This was made possible by hiring a public relations firm in L.A. We are still raising funding to continue these efforts. Anyone who wants to contribute can go here: http://bit.ly/38HEgBn |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2206
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2020 - 10:06 pm: |
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Michael that gofundme link just goes straight to the main page that doesn't lead you to your gofundme campaign.
I think this one is the correct one.
I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE TRUTH
https://www.gofundme.com/f/i-want-to-know-more-about-the-truth
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1106
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2020 - 05:38 pm: |
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Matt Lee,
I had issues with the gofundme link link as well; the one that you posted is correct and worked for me.
Salome
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2210
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2020 - 02:21 am: |
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Hi Kenneth I had to purposefully search for it as the old link Michael provided for the first one was now defunct.
Matt lee |
Alvin_a
New member
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2020
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2020 - 06:31 pm: |
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Hi guys,
We at New Zealand BM research have published an animated clip of the Henoch prophecy.
I hope it is of help to the cause.
Thank you and Salome.
Link: https://youtu.be/VpP5p0Q03so
Hello Alvin, Just a reminder at this time only links to FIGU approved websites shall be posted. Thank you and welcome to the FIGU Forum Scott-Moderator.
(Message edited by scott on November 17, 2020) |
Alvin_a
New member
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2020
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 - 07:37 pm: |
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Hi Scott,
Sorry was unaware of it. Thank you for the welcome.
Salome |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3210
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2020 - 09:58 pm: |
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You are Welcome Alvin, I did watch the video, very well done. I didn't know New Zealand had a study group  ....
Salome |
