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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2135
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2020 - 05:28 pm: | 
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Eddie I appreciate your feedback and advice.
Although if you are adament that the OM verse needs to be understood allegorically rather than literally, although my view is a bit of both, what you are essentially doing is denying part of its meaning and the very words that was used to compose the verse.
This means according to your position it is ok for women to cake their face with makeup every which way possible but still maintain their Creation given dignity.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Matt lee |
Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 08:31 am: |
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Hello All,
I grew up in a country among people who thought that make up was just a means of attracting other men, compared to women who did not put makeup and appeared natural. It was only prostitutes at that time who put makeup and tried to attract other men. When I came to USA, I noticed that makeup was part of everyday life and women who did not put makeup was considered unattractive or a drab, and I was told this. I was taken aback by this type of mentality. However, I always felt within me that make up is not needed to make myself attractive or likeable to others, but how we interact and behave towards others, as well as what we do for others is what matters than anything else. I think this is what is best meant in the Canons too. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2137
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 09:20 am: |
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I wonder if Herr Schmid is still alive to give an interview about the forgeries that he had perpetuated against Billy under the orders of MIB?
I want to know what Asket and Nera actually looks like without the forgery
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 609
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 11:34 am: |
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Also consider, wearing make up, sporting a beard, etc relates to the value you're investing in your time, meaning, natural beauty is simply natural beauty, however, you have a choice as to how you invest your time, either enjoying nature or other activities or spending large of amount of your time on either attracting others or feeling worthy or beautiful or handsome, or accepting what you see in the mirror
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 611
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 11:44 am: |
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If you're involved in an upcoming disaster, war, flooding, etc., what would you do? Put on makeup, shave ? Personally, all of BEAMs books are about applying reasonable, rational, logical thinking based on the situation
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1105
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 04:23 pm: |
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Newinitiation re; Your post#2135
Not sure how you came to those conclusions based on what I've written.
There's a difference between wearing makeup (modern day thing) ...and "caking the face".
But if you want to take a Kanon literally, that's your prerogative. See what comes of it.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2142
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2020 - 10:47 pm: |
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To be precise it was 'cake their face with makeup' and not caking the face as you have falsely put.
FYI I stated that you had to understand the Kanons literally as well as allegorically not just 'literally', there is a distinct difference.
Whatever the differences of opinion or our level of understanding of the spiritual teaching the most important thing is that we are all making the effort in studying it and coming to our own understanding at our own pace and capabilities.
The only experts who has command of the true understands of the teaching is Billy, the Plejaren & Federation and of course the higher spiritforms.
We are just the students.
Matt lee |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1106
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 08:15 am: |
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Newinitiation,
Again, not sure where your confusion came from. Go ahead and go with your understanding and see what you get out of it. That's what life is about.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Felinity
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 09:15 am: |
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Another comment I have about makeup: I wouldn't want to wear it on a beamship because the particles might be floating around and go into the computers and other machines. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 910
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 12:19 pm: |
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Comment Deleted.... Michelle. That would be nice if we could get together for a coffee but I don’t plan on travelling to the USA at all because the reports that I’m hearing from visitors to the states are that people are crazy and it’s getting worse.
Eddie we all appreciate what you are doing, but none on that has anything to do with this specific topic. Have you ever tried telling any woman they look better without makeup?
Learnmore12 yes that’s very much how most that weren’t raised with celebrity worship see it as well.
Sheila, Please refrain from your negative comments towards others. BTW, your suspicions regarding the earlier matter at this time are still unproven to me.
(Message edited by scott on January 05, 2020)
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Hugo
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Post Number: 779
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 12:29 pm: |
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I don't understand why some people are totally against wearing any makeup because of that Kanon verse when Asket wears a little makeup?
Felinity, I recall Semjase saying somewhere that their beam ships are fitted every conceivable devices so I imagine an air filtration system that catches particles is one of them. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 613
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 03:51 pm: |
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I can only shake my head regarding the recent events in USA...however, it's not surprising since everything have been hidden out of mainstream media during the 50s 60s, 70s 80s and 90s...not to mention, BEAM, Ps have been issuing warnings but as we all know, no one is listening
I sense we're heading towards a "type of destruction", unlike anything we've experienced in this country.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Mosaki
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 01-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 05:47 pm: |
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I'm not convinced that Asket was wearing makeup and have always been skeptical about the claims that she was wearing it. I am leaning more toward it being a shadow or part of the fraud that was perpetrated on the original photos.
Asket and her people are extremely advanced, more so than the Plejaren, and I find it hard to imagine that she would ever feel the need to cover up her natural beauty. Some of the photos floating around appear to show her with a heavy layer of dark eye shadow. I find that to be completely illogical.
Billy also said that he never saw any of the ET women that he knows wearing makeup. Granted, he was talking to Ptaah in this exchange regarding women from Erra, but I still think he meant all the ET women he knew, including Asket. Otherwise, he probably would have said with the exception of Asket.
Billy:
Unfortunately – a pity. But now, here’s a somewhat loosening-up question: one approached me in reference to whether I knew anything about the use of make-up by the female gender on Erra. One wanted to know specifically whether lip balming occurs, even with lipstick, as the women and girls do this here on Earth. For my part, I never saw such with your women.
Ptaah:
136. This isn’t common with our female gender in the way that it is with the women on Earth.
137. In general, only a certain part uses subtle make-up from natural materials, while others don’t use these things.
138. The make-up is such that it doesn’t change the naturalness of the skin, so it can hardly be seen, which isn’t the case, unfortunately, with the earthly female gender.
139. But that the lips are coated with colored lipsticks, as the women and girls do so on the Earth, that isn’t the case with us, for we have already considered such actions as nauseating since ages ago.
Billy:
With Semjase and Pleija as well as all the others whom I know, one never saw anything with them; at least, I could never find something unusual with them. But let’s leave this, for I still have some questions that are more important.
Billy:
Leider - schade. Hier aber nun eine etwas auflockernde Frage: Man trat an mich heran im Bezuge dessen, ob ich etwas wüsste hinsichtlich des Schminkens resp. des Make-up des weiblichen Geschlechts auf Erra. Dabei wollte man speziell wissen, ob Lippenbemalungen gemacht werden, eben mit Lippenstiften, wie das die Frauen und Mädchen hier auf der Erde tun. Meinerseits sah ich solches noch nie bei euren Frauen.
Ptaah:
136. Das ist bei unserem weiblichen Geschlecht auch nicht in der Form üblich wie auf der Erde bei den Frauen.
137. Im allgemeinen benutzt nur ein gewisser Teil ein dezentes Make-up aus natürlichen Stoffen, während die anderen diese Dinge nicht verwenden.
138. Das Make-up ist dabei derart, dass es die Natürlichkeit der Haut nicht verändert, weshalb es auch kaum gesehen werden kann, was leider beim irdisch-weiblichen Geschlecht nicht der Fall ist.
139. Dass jedoch die Lippen mit farbigen Lippenstiften bestrichen werden, wie dies die Frauen und Mädchen auf der Erde tun, das ist bei uns nicht der Fall, denn ein solches Tun erachten wir schon seit alters her als ekelerregend.
Billy:
Semjase und Pleija sowie all die andern, die ich kenne, ihnen sah man jedenfalls nichts an - auch bei ihnen konnte ich nie etwas Ungewöhnliches feststellen. Doch lassen wir das, denn ich habe noch etliche Fragen, die wichtiger sind.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_260
Salome,
Melissa Osaki
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 780
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 09:03 pm: |
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Mosaki, I have just asked Christian Frehner if he can clear this up whether or not Asket wears make up, just so we all know. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1082
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 09:14 pm: |
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Mosaki,
I for one agree with you, humans (extraterrestrials) that are ~30,000 years more spiritual advanced than Earthlings would not need this crutch.
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 1107
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 11:48 pm: |
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Mosaki and Justsayno
Melisa, thank you for your post#22.
Contact Report 260 shows the Plejaren implementing the Kanon.
Sheila, your question: "Have you ever tried telling any woman they look better without makeup?"
Fortunately, I've never had to tell a woman she; "Looks better without makeup".
What I have NEVER tolerated was anyone telling a young lady that; "A little makeup will make you prettier".
As far as society and the decades are concerned, unfortunately, because men have ruled the world, evolution has dragged its feet. Fortunately, we are 9 years away from a purely Aquarian Age.
As spoken about, in the book; Arahat Athersata.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2144
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2020 - 09:26 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
Again, not sure where your confusion came from. Go ahead and go with your understanding and see what you get out of it. That's what life is about.
Well Eddie then let it be and live and let freedom be as this discussion should never be about proving how right one is just because one has learnt a few things here and there from the spiritual teaching than learning to also apply what one has learnt into practical application of the deep wisdom and principles contained in those words.
Matt lee |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1108
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 06, 2020 - 11:49 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I've been telling you that since the first time you made it clear that you are not interested in what the spiritual teaching has to say.
So why did you engage me in matters of the spiritual teaching when this is clearly not of interest to you, nor something of which you know anything about?
Why waste both of our time? Not sure o
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Felinity
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2020 - 10:25 am: |
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Hugo, thank you for making me aware of their air filtration system.
Justsayno, I am in Virginia, in what's becoming a battleground state. Ten minutes from rt.666 and close to 2 hours from Langley/McLean. The stress and anxiety I am experiencing is a lot. There aren't that many Americans onboard with Billy Meier and his spiritual teaching, but I am here. When I go to bed, I wonder when will be the day of my arrest for dabbling with this life-altering information. To top it all off, I have developed loving thoughts and feelings for Quetzal. It started a few months ago, where I thought that I made peace with myself and put the matter behind me. Well, my feelings of love for him increased these past couple of days.
The point is anyone around the world who wants to help Billy Meier are people we need to bond with.
Salome and be well,
Belinda |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 781
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2020 - 09:10 pm: |
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Dear All,
I just got the response back from Christian about whether or not Asket wears makeup, as well as in that photo too. Here is the response -
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Hi Christian,
There is a lengthy discussion on the English forum whether or not Asket wears a little make-up. Do you know if Billy ever confirmed that Asket wears some make-up as is seen in her photo? If not, can you please ask him and then clear this up on the forum? Thanks you.
Salome Hugo
Hi Hugo,
The photo is much too blurred to show any make-up. Besides, Asket does not paint her face and is of the same opinion regarding make-up as her Plejaren friends. Besides, Asket is related to Sfath's (a Plejaren) lineage.
Salome,
Christian
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My opinion is the photo of Asket appears to clearly show her wearing makeup. If what Christian says is true, then maybe the photo was deliberately altered to include her wearing makeup probably to look more in line with our females and with Dean Martin’s show model?
The mysterious photo of Asket
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_mysterious_photo_of_Asket |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2147
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 07:58 am: |
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Eddie I think it was you who engaged with me first from your post 1059 to my 2124.
Genuine modesty is very important Eddie and so is knowing your worth.
Matt lee |
Learnmore12
Member
Post Number: 115
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 09:55 am: |
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Hello All,
Here is an excerpt from CR# 239, where Billy and Ptaah talk about using make up among their women. Thanks.
Billy: Thank you. – Then the next question: when women or men paint their faces, use lipsticks, paint their eyebrows, apply blush, etc., etc., for what reasons is this done? And – do the women also do this with you? Even though I have made no such findings, it could still be possible. That with you, for example, hair is colored, I know this from Semjase, and also that eyes are colored with certain colors. Ptaah: 26. With us, this has other reasons than with the Earth people. 27. Hair, for example, isn’t simply dyed with ordinary dyes, as this is also the case with the eyes; rather, it concerns medical ingredients that have very specific properties. 28. Unfortunately, it still also happens with us that people suffer from headaches or from sensitivity to light. 29. These evils are prevented by the fact that in the case of susceptibility to headaches, the hair is treated with certain active ingredients which can be dyed, after which the hair then delivers the necessary active ingredients into the cerebral cortex, by what means no further headaches will appear for a long time, as long as the hair can still deliver the active ingredients. 30. It behaves the same with the eyes, into which the substances that can be dyed are instilled, which reduce the sensitivity to light, by what means the ones afflicted with the evil become normal-sighted. 31. However, cosmetics and beautifying make-up, etc. are not usual with us among both sexes. 32. When the Earth people, however, put on make-up and use a variety of cosmetics, this is based solely on reasons of psychological injury, mental aberration and the like, as we have clearly and analytically fathomed in hundreds of thousands of Earth people.
33. A wrong desire to want to appear as more than what one actually is forms the main factor for all artificial beautification attempts which, in truth, cause the exact opposite of what is desired and arouse disgust.
34. It…
Billy:
We call this “war paint,” and it is actually disgusting, no matter whether only a little blush is applied on the lips or whether a full-face application takes place. |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 1111
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 11:31 am: |
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Newinitiation,
No, I posted about my perceptions and thoughts on the Kanon. You engaged me with your opinion. I then posted another source for consideration. You came back at me with more opinions.
And here we are again building the Tower of Babel.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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