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    Matthew Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 03-2011 |
My opinion: A beardless man would be akin to a man who has not developed his thinking; not evolved, grown and removes his own thoughts for the thoughts of others. Think the make-up Kanon is the female equivalent of the beard; a woman who has not developed her true nature, covers it up in make-up = thoughts that are not her own. In other words, wear the beard, but, don't let the beard wear you, or, make you think you are more "spiritual" and I think there may even be some humour in that Kanon in that respect. Oh and women let the natural be, don't cover it with thoughts (make-up) to please others and be appealing. Matt | ||
Jokubas_stalmokas Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 01-2011 |
I do not want to jump to conclusions, but are some people implying here that women should start growing beard for spiritual reasons? | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 624 Registered: 02-2010 |
 MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Lemontree Member Post Number: 91 Registered: 08-2012 |
Hi, Two contact reports don't really agree with one other: In #721 it says in all Plejaren people there were wars. Then a large metallic spherical structure influenced all populations of each of their worlds by means of swinging waves for 32 days. And that fixed everything about 52,000 years ago. In #653 it says Plejaren ancestors settled on only 2 planets Erra and Erras. Erra folk were peaceful. Erras folk were not and they migrated to Erra and only after many wars on Erra did they become peaceful. This happened 52,000 years ago. This report goes in detail how they became peaceful with the help of spiritual leaders and what not - but there's no mention of a large metallic structure influencing the population. Furthermore, #721 says this metallic structure should have influenced all people in each of their worlds. But there was only one world inhabited, Erra according to #653. Erras became a lifeless planet. So there's either some translation error of certain words or in any way I find this confusing and unclear. And I'm guessing Askal and Luseta planets which are in the same system as Erra got inhabited sometime later in the last 52,000 years. Thanks | ||
Linda_95 Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2020 |
What is a "mind scan"? | ||
Linda_95 Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2020 |
Hi Jay, Salome and BE WELL to ALL  | ||
Linda_95 Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2020 |
Hi James Moore,  In your post #117 you wrote about the Plejarens "hearing" thoughts. I'd like to learn more about that... can you please explain? Salome | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3173 Registered: 12-1999 |
Interesting info regarding the length of life for the normal Plejaren from Contact 750: Life Span of Plejarens is 380 years ..... Ptaah: The age limit, which according to the earthly calendar is not normally 1000, 1200 or 1400 years or more, because our plejaric life span, calculated according to earthly years, which only differ slightly from our calendar, is an average of 380 years. Furthermore, with regard to the age and aging of our Pleiarian humanity, it must be said that many people do not strive to prolong their lives and consequently do not use any of the hydrodynamic regeneration converters available to everyone, but live through their lifetime normally and die just as normally when they have become tired of life. Other people of our humanity use the regeneration apparatuses to live on for some years, decades or centuries, especially when very long and over many centuries lasting commitments are made and exercised. However, maximum limits are also set in this respect, so that organ regeneration cannot take place endlessly, because when a certain state is reached through natural aging of the organs, they become susceptible to aging and fail inexorably. However, it rarely happens that the aim is to live beyond 1500 years, because inevitably, over time, life fatigue or the natural aging process occurs, so that dying naturally becomes the end of life. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 931 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott, When I read they become- "tired of life" and "life fatigue" I can't help but think of Gilgamesh with his 50,000+ lifespan. It also makes me wonder where his spiritual evolution level is compared to the Plejaren? | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1481 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Scott. Salome, Bill | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 567 Registered: 11-2008 |
Scott, Here is maybe some additional information to your post about the Plejaren life expectancy: Excerpt from contact report 524 Billy: Your average age is 1,050 years, which I suppose is only a certain number of the population. That is also the way it is calculated here on Earth. This means that naturally with you human beings also die at a much younger age, as is also the case with us. But what interests me is this: What do the human beings in your country die of at a much younger age? Here on Earth, diseases, accidents, violence, murders, the death penalty, wars and terrorism etc. play the most important role in this respect. Ptaah: 16. That is correct, but with us these factors do not arise when we ignore possible accidents, which unfortunately cannot be avoided despite the best safety measures. 17. What must be taken into account, however, is the fact that every human being, from a purely physical point of view, has a certain life expectancy that is predetermined. 18. This is inherited over many generations, so that, based on the long history of the family tree, the probable age of the human being can be calculated quite accurately, according to the age of the different ancestors on the mother's and father's side. Billy: But how is it, then, that with general progress and the development of medicine, food production and technology, as is the case here on Earth, the average age of the human being is increasing? Ptaah: 19. This corresponds to a natural development, but it ends when the highest possible age is reached, because when genetically the peak of the possibility of ageing is reached, then no further life expectancy is possible. 20. This is also the case with us, therefore only a certain number of human beings reach the high average age of 1,050 years. End of excerpt. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_524 | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1350 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hugo, what I wonder with respect to Gilgamesh is the 75,000 years his spirit form will require to assimilate everything before its next incarnation. Assuming he were to die here within the next hundred years, where would his spirit reincarnate 75,000 years hence? The Earth may well not be habitable meaning the spirit would drift throughout space for 75,000 years until finding a suitable place with a "suitable" level of evolution. That may be way behind where we will be 75,000 years hence. Even if he left with the Plejaren, 75,000 years is an immense time span for them. He might have to go it "alone" on a new world somewhere with spirit form he had not previously met, but at what level? Possibly not much in advance of where we are now, since he has lived on Earth for so long and feels at home here? The Plejaren have said that it may not be beneficial for the spirit form to live in a personality for longer than 1,500 years, which is a reason for them applying that limit to their lives. That brings me to wonder whether Gilgamesh exemplifies a reason for the Plejaren limiting their lifespan to a maximum of 1,500 years -- where even those spirit forms, like Sfath's, will reincarnate 1,350 - 2,250 years in the future. BTW, using the 1.52 calculation, Sfath will reincarnate on Erra around 3,500 AD, just in time for him to meet the last incarnation of Nokodemion before the latter returns permanently to the spirit realms when the new Sfath will be about 499 (say 500) years old in CE3999. If Sfath had decided to live to the maximum of 1,500 years this time, he would miss that future meeting with the future and final incarnation of the Nokodemion spirit form, which I would guess he would not want to miss. Bottom line: it is not necessarily best to live to even the maximum 1,500 years possible in one personality. It presumably depends upon one's path of development and evolutionary goals for a personality, and most importantly the spirit form. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Jokubas_stalmokas Member Post Number: 97 Registered: 01-2011 |
I am sorry if I stray away from conversation line, but for some time I couldn't stop thinking about the tasks plejaren had to carry out in their respectively assigned areas on earth. I have this hypothesis that for example in Europe especially in Germany one of the tasks could have been to impulsively guide the authorities to make resolutions for closing down the atomic plants to prepare that area for future eifel caldera collapse, which they successfully implementing. And for the rest of the areas could be something similar... | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3174 Registered: 12-1999 |
Here is a link to the original German for Contact 750 Contact 750 | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1482 Registered: 04-2011 |
>>> Why humans die <<< I think the reason the Plejaren may not overly extend their life spans is this: After death, the spirit and the overall consciousness block dwell in the beyond and work out the results of the past life. These results are then archived in the human subconsciousness when man is born again. The "reborn" human being then forms a new consciousness which may, through impulses from the subconscious, benefit from the "updates" of the storage banks. IOW - if this process in the beyond were suddenly to fall flat completely, the material consciousness would one day become stupid and the spirit form's evolution would stagnate. It must therefore be the case that every life form has a certain and "corresponding" life span - i.e. in accordance with the state of knowledge to be acquired and its desire and possibility of further evolution: So, unless people have to live much too short lives*), they should not really be afraid of death because it is in the beyond that their life's acquired wisdom is extracted and stored and becomes a permanent factor that can assist / influence the human's evolution in its next life. Salome, Bill *) Like e.g. the "terrestrial" human whose life is definitely too short: There is not much time left in an Earth human life to apply the acquired insights and knowledge. The average terrestrial human is already rather "old" when his consciousness becomes peaceful and awakens to thoughts of universal love and wisdom... | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1264 Registered: 08-2010 |
Although I consider myself still at the infancy of my learning from the teaching of the prophets, ie; the spiritual teaching and recognizing such through my life experiences and life interactions with all circumstances, activities, the nature, thoughts, deeds and actions, I do recognize the law of love in the law of the becoming and passing. Funny, when I heard that Billy's next personality (may) be born circa 2075, I immediately checked to see if possibly I would again live at or during this time. My reason being that, although Billy's next personalities will act according to wisdom and logic and not reveal his true essence, I personally think I could recognize him through his wisdom and insights and love. Should he ever offer words of knowledge and insights, etc. Naturally, I could very easily expose a charlatan that would dare defile himself and claim to be Billy's re/incarnation. I really hope to be alive then and thereafter in succeeding times of personalities enlivened by the Nokodemion spiritform. Since being rewarded by my current and small count of cognitions, I look forward to the time of rest from this body, which has been through so much... so I understand what Ptaah explains and to the consciousness-based wise amongst us, the death of the body is a welcome adventure into a form of time travel into new human bodies as wiser and more evolved personalities. Not to be equated with the cowardly act of being suicidal, but rather the acceptance of the creational laws of love and the evolution, the wanting to be effective in the efforts of the Mission and to experience such as much as possible. To live through the effects of the efforts of the responsible ones and to see first hand human beings becoming knowledgeable and true human beings and the joys and pleasantness that will come from that. So I look forward to the day of the transition and welcome a new future adventure and journey through the ages... until the efforts have reached the culmination point and the people of Earth have reached a consciousness-based autonomy and evolution. This is what I most desire. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3175 Registered: 12-1999 |
Contact Report (EN) 750 | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 932 Registered: 04-2015 |
Cpl, I thought the only way a person's spirit form would leave a planet it just died on was if the evolution of the people on that planet was above it's? If this is correct then Gilgamesh's spirit form would wait on the other side for a long time before reincarnating until this planet's spiritual evolution reached his. If the Plejaren suffer from "life fatigue" and get "tired" of long life at only around 1,000 years then it makes me wonder if Gilgamesh's spiritual evolution is higher then the Plejaren' because he can handle 50,000+ years and the P's cannot handle anything remotely close to that? But then if I consider how Gilgamesh can live among us here with our harsh vibrations whereas the Plejaren cannot, then it makes me think that the P's evolution must be higher then Gilgamesh's unless he has some sort of special attribute that can defend against our harsh vibrations? Either way Gilgamesh's spiritual evolution is way above ours and I would love to meet him. Nice thought about Sfath and Nokodemion! | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1351 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Hugo, Gilgamesh is certainly a unique figure very risky to second guess. I could be wrong, of course, but I would conjecture that Gilgamesh's spirit could readily reincarnate here since he has been here so long and finds it home. If he doesn't die soon, however, he might find himself unable to reincarnate here because there might not be anyone here in 75,000 years. Whatever, he is a fascinating figure with which to tax the brain cells. The spirit can leave a planet when the latter can no longer support human life, or all life has died there. This could happen sooner than we think here, since it is foretold that we will leave the Earth some millennia hence due to our sun being older than supposed, and that its days of giving life to the Earth are numbered. I would further tentatively conjecture that Gilgamesh will find a way of surviving here and leave when Earthlings do, somehow, in some form or other. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1483 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you for CR 750, Scot. Salome, Bill | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 728 Registered: 02-2010 |
Eddie, post#1264 is a great post MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3176 Registered: 12-1999 |
Your Welcome Bill That was a long Contact .. Salome Scott | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1265 Registered: 08-2010 |
Msmichelle, thank you. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) |
