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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2239
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2020 - 10:53 pm: | 
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The governments are following the exact same protocols enacted during the SARS epidemic.
This novel coronavirus is number 19
This one is different.
They shouldn't try to force a square peg into a round hole.
This coronavirus as we have determined through the plejaren has an incubation period of up to 3 months.
This is not SARS period.
How the hell would a 2 week self isolation, voluntary and involuntary quarantine measure and social distancing going to solve this pandemic.
Zilch, kaput, none des ne.
Those in self quarantine are going to set loose like rabid dogs after the 2 weeks is up and just party like it was their last day at cancun festival with a head deluded with a false sense of security.
As if things can't get any worse children are still required to go to school.
Holymoly!
People are still travelling overseas.
They are passing each other in droves in the city and towns and public transport and on the streets and in the shopping centres and in the airports.
Holymoly once again.
Ignorance is definitely not bliss.
What does it take for the people to just listen to reason for once and be reasonable by following the wise guidance and advice of the infinitely more knowledgeable and smarter plejaren.
Does it take 4 heads of state dying within 7 days of each other because of this coronavirus pandemic before sense enters people's heads.
Looks like the way things are going right now tens of thousands of people are going to die from this coronavirus pandemic before they finally grab at straws and listen to the plejaren warnings.
How would they listen?
Progress is measured in graves thats what.
Matt lee |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3040
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 02:21 pm: |
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New Info regarding the Corona Virus from FIGU:
https://www.figu.org/ch/verein/aktuelle-infos/corona-virus-nr-2 |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3041
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 02:41 pm: |
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Hello,
For those who are interested in an English translation of this previous article, please let me know and I will send a PDF File to you. I received this translation from 2 members of the Australian Landesgruppe.
scott.baxter@forum.figu.org
Salome
(Message edited by scott on March 16, 2020) |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 186
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 02:39 pm: |
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The goal is to spread out the infection rate. Slow it down. If they don't the Hospitals will be filled to capacity and If you have a Heart attack etc. there will be no place to go. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1214
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 05:21 pm: |
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Thank you Scott - very much appreciated.
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You are very right, Matt.
During the past 10 days I have talked to many authorities about the CV. It was a MH experience:
In most cases there was no response but if they responded they were telling you that those that give them health advice have a much better understanding and that they stick to that.
But it may well be that it is the other way around. - That the "health experts" are not giving independent advice but speak "as told". And that those "telling" may know quite well that they overvalue the economical impact of the CV (by e.g. not shutting down -"in time"- businesses, schools etc.) at the expense of public health considerations |
Hugo
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Post Number: 817
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 06:14 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
In the Meier material we learned that many government bodies around the world follow the Meier case but there are hardly any that seem to be taking the P's advice on how to limit the spread of the virus. They are dumb and soon there will be blood in the streets. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3043
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 06:56 am: |
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Correction to the above Document: The first sentence should read:
Erst entstand im September 2002 in der südchinesischen .....
In September 2002, in the south Chinese province of......
The change being the year from 2005 to 2002, this is per FIGU
Thank you |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2240
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 09:29 pm: |
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I agree Bill but fate will have it that among these stupid decision makers who are only concerned about the bottom line some of them will be among those who will get infected with the coronavirus and when they are directly effected they'll bitch and moan and then regret about it when it too late.
Its the proverbial story of our century.
They are trapped by the concerns of the immediate now that forward thinking is impossible a contemplation and does not register in the radar of their present attention.
Good effort Bill for trying.
At least you are doing something concrete to try and help the situation.
I am telling as many people who I come in contact with each day about this also and have contacted channel 9 with the plejaren information.
What comes of it I have no idea.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2241
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 09:41 pm: |
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Well Hugo we are so used to it that it has become almost comical because its so so so predictable.
Its like Groucho and Marx fumbling around like amateurs butting their heads against each other and tripping all over the place.
You expect nothing else.
Thats what it looks like, like boys and girls trying to do a man and a woman's job.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2242
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 09:54 pm: |
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Thanks for the link Scott
Matt lee |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3044
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 06:59 am: |
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Your Welcome Matt |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1215
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 08:23 am: |
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Thank you, Matt - and yes, so I do not wish harm to anyone - you are right in warning ... Because there is a limit to everything.
The "open letters" by 4000 doctors and 250 scientists - do they indicate that our times are changing? |
Markv
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 03:18 pm: |
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I just came across an interesting article. Here's an excerpt:
OMRF (Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation) says a drug that’s been in use for more than a half-century is showing promise: chloroquine phosphate. The drug was originally developed to fight malaria.
“It’s also been shown to be very effective in treating patients who have autoimmune diseases like lupus,” said Judith James, M.D., Ph.D., Vice President of Clinical Affairs at the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation. “We use it to treat hundreds of lupus patients at OMRF.”
In China, researchers tested the drug in a multicenter clinical trial to treat pneumonia associated with COVID-19. Preliminary results indicate that the drug appears to show some efficacy as a therapy.
“When malaria gets inside a cell, if you change the pH with a drug like chloroquine phosphate, the malaria can’t live,” said James, an immunologist and rheumatologist. “The same goes for a virus like COVID-19. If you change the pH, the virus cannot assemble, and if it can’t assemble, it can’t infect you.”
I find it interesting because there are other ways of regulating the ph of the body - one of them is via breathing exercises.
In this case, it seems that increasing the alkalinity & decreasing the acidity is of importance. Such a result can basically be achieved by calm, slow, deep breathing.
Basically, according to this, everybody calming down would be quite beneficial. |
Norm
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 04:46 pm: |
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Markv, There's a big article in Business Insider on chloroquine. Here's the title look it up.
A malaria pill from the 1940s has caught the eyes of doctors, analysts, and even Elon Musk as a potential coronavirus treatment |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2245
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 10:58 pm: |
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As if its not enough that Japan is still reeling from the Fukushima nuclear disaster the crazy Abe government is pressing forward with the olympics.
How stupid, magalomaniacal, sociopathic and psychopathic is this dude.
The only reason why Japan has low incidence of coronavirus infection rate isn't due to the governments fantastic quarantine and screening measures it is because they are covering up the true extent of infection number so that they can press ahead with the Olympics.
Just call all those deaths by coronavirus, death by influenza by cooking the books.
Its is pride and joy for any host nation to host the olympics and to show off their country's achievements in many ways to the world but more and more as the years roll on the games are becoming highly politicized which is antithetical to the very spirit of the games.
The Abe government has already committed genocide of epic proportion by covering up the true extent of the worst of the worse disaster in living memory by sweeping the Fukushima nuclear diaster under the rug but on top of all this he wants to up the ante by putting many more lives at risk to the coronavirus pandemic by forging ahead with the Olympics.
Simply crazy.
As of now every venue in Japan which will host its respective sports during the Olympics is highly contaminated with ionizing radiation by many times over the standards set by the IAEA.
They are also going to feed the athletes and games officials with produce and fisheries sourced from highly contaminated area around Fukushima.
Who knows how many have already died of cancer and leukemia in the last 9 years from the effects of harmful ionizing radiation but everything is covered up that is unfavourable to the Abe government irrespective of whether it detrimentally affects his citizens or not.
Cohesive and peaceful as the Japanese society may be there is a death code written all over the mentality of the Japanese.
They put on a nice, cute, well mannered and civil face but deep inside most of these over worked people are miserable and very unhappy.
Its the code of silence and not wanting to come across rude by complaining and speaking up and speaking out which will be the death knell of this polite society.
The need to conform, belong, fit in, get along, be approved of, be accepted and to be acknowledged will be their greatest downfall as sentiment and emotion is trumping logic, truth, correctness, the natural order and what is right.
This society is hijacked by millenia old tradition that is antithetical to the natural order in some respects which is why the conformist and apologetic Japanese will suffer immensely as a result of getting along to go along with their insane and crazy government policies that neither serves them nor the interests of their future generations.
The kicker is that they are inadvertently bringing the international community down with them with the coronavirus as the icing on the cake.
The 2020 Tokyo Olympics should be scrapped and no international event of this nature or proportion should be held in Japan ever.
Already everyone in Japan is receiving irregular and higher doses of ionizing radiation on average than everyone else around the world.
They are basically stuffed.
The 127 million Japanese people don't realise that for the sake of their next generations they must leave highly contaminated Japan.
They may just be the millions of refugees who will create the refugee crisis of the future written in the prophecies.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1216
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 11:15 pm: |
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Thank you, Mark and Norm.
If it holds true that the drug shortens the time of the viral infection - that would be great news, for the many that suffer in our world.
Salome, Bill
BTW - A Wuhan research study found that people with the blood group 'A' are more likely to be infected than those of blood group 'O'.
The modus vivendi of a virus …
… is a good example of the evolutionary oneness that exists between all beings in our universe.
Because it is in the DNA of a virus as it is in the DNA of all living beings to evolve by multiplying and then - when they have done so many times - bring about a change in quality.
Thus when a virus multiplies within its hosts - when a critical point is reached - it will evolve by mutating. |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1217
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 11:25 pm: |
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Methods RE. Combating The Corona Virus
“Speed vs Perfection”
Should we seek perfection in emergency situations?
(From the Guardian newspaper - 18 03 20)
China has developed a Corona testing self-testing kit which has been verified in laboratories in Europe and China.
As the testing does not require a clinic – the testing could be done by any person at home.
Australia could import it – it would relieve pressure from the overburdened hospitals and pathology services.
The quick result could set people’s mind at ease.
But to be accepted in Australia it would have to undergo a long winding approval process.
The importing company’s comment:
“our consultants tell us that unlike the US and Europe, securing approval would take too long… “
But waiting strategies always favour the virus:
“In emergency situations - if you need to be perfect before you move, you never win.
Perfection is the enemy of what is right when it comes to emergency management.
In emergencies speed trumps perfection…”
WHO DR M. Ryan on how to best stop the spread of a rapidly spreading virus (recalling experiences w. the Ebola Virus)…. |
Aristea
Member
Post Number: 50
Registered: 06-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 06:55 am: |
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Hey Matt, why do you think that Influenza has become a non-issue during this winter Flu season??? Do you think Influenza has disappeared or is less virulent than usual? Why is no one thinking about the usual Flu viruses being involved in these deaths??? Not everyone who is sick has the Novel Corona Virus!!! One Italian doctor who manages a hospital in Genoa Italy was interviewed by a German news channel. He says that so far "no one has died of COVID-19". The cases of pneumonia in his hospital were caused by Flu. What if the H1N1 Flu strain is really causing deaths in Europe? Why is no one talking about Flu-related deaths??? It is and will remain a mystery.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3046
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 07:47 am: |
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Trump just stated he will make the drug Hydroxy Chloroquine available almost immediately through the FDA |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 656
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 08:07 am: |
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FYI from Australia website
http://au.figu.org/bushfires_blame.html
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1112
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 09:22 am: |
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Just a thought; when one looks back at the craziness of million of people purchasing toilet paper (TP) during this COVID-19 pandemic emergency and hording the TP for what?! In a crisis, there are many other items that are more valuable and useful than TP.
From a different angle, this almost appears to be a form of covert mind control. . . Obviously this frenzied hysteria was disseminated by the Main Stream Media, but through whose direction?
This event really shows just how manipulative the masses are!
Kenneth |
