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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Monday, May 25, 2020 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lemontree

I remember a similar point in my life, so I'm going to share what gave me the ability to control my fate. FYI (you may already have these books), we can find advice on your specific situation in the Might Of The Thoughts.

Those of us who are entrepreneurial or have a ziel: We may also want to study the secret sciences in the book Arahat Athersata.

We should keep in mind that these books teach the creational way of doing things, of thinking, of preparing and of acting. As it says in the Goblet Of The Truth, for us to be the best planners, just as Creation plans all of her creations.

To fully recognize and appreciate/benefit from the creational laws and recommendations in these two books, the creational laws and recommendations are best searched and researched through the Goblet Of The Truth.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Posted on Monday, May 25, 2020 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lemontree,

A lot of people are already going back to live at their parents home because of the financial carnage this virus has caused......and it's only going to get far worse. Maybe you should not consider moving out of your parents home yet. Be cautious and wait and see what the future brings.
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Lemontree
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Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok. I'll take a look at those books too.
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2020 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Eddie and Hugo, and I'll add, no matter what's going on in the world, we are still responsible for our own well being, meaning, we all must make the best decisions based on our situations. These perils in the world will definitely get worse before better, yet, we have the spiritual teaching at our fingertips which helps to soothe the pain, disappointments, frustrations we're all facing on one scale or another.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Felinity
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Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2020 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Father Eduard,

You are the real "woke" adult on a planet with over 9 billion wild Omedam children. Because we will live short lives compared to the Plejaren, we will not get to completely enjoy all of your material. You gave your works to world government leaders who sadly look like adults but in reality their minds are not much more knowledgeable than a primary school child.

The straw that broke the camel's back is George Floyd. To attempt the task of even calming down these brain amputee, rioting, destructive, wild Omedam children tearing down our U.S. cities will be very slow. When the Great Calm happens, a general interest in self-education will occur. That's the opportunity of learning the Spiritual Teaching, which we here in the Forum are still getting acquainted with, to in turn teach others when they have thoughts and questions.

Peace and Love to you Billy Eduard Albert Meier. Peace and Love to All who will read this.

Belinda
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Hugo
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Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2020 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Felinity,

Billy does not read this forum. If you want to send him a message you can email him. The address can be found on Figu's website.

Btw, The straw that broke the camels back is not George Floyd but the Dark Order. They are behind this. Soro's funds the right and the left and his organization has been pushing people through social media to protest. Also, the Dark Order has it's media outlets pushing the same thing. Dark Order wants to break up the USA to achieve it's one world government goal.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 02:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo / Belinda

It could well be that what we are witnessing is the first rumble of the time of anarchy and epidemics which the Henoch prophecies describe in CR 215:288 *)

Quetzal tells us that he, on purpose, did not put these prophecies into time-sequential order - he simply described various scenarios that mankind may have to go through … among it 'a time' (which may well soon be our time):

CR 215:288: “Anarchy will be the worldwide condition that will prevail and torment human beings over a long period of time, as human beings will also be tormented by:
- human beings tormented by epidemics and diseases Tick
- which are unknown and incurable Tick
- terrible respiratory problems leading to suffocation Tick
- through biological and chemical weapons (!!)
- ray / frequency weapons Tick (computerized microwave attacks / H….? )
- consciousness impaired / feebleminded
(Ptaah CR 738: “… 44 % of the populations of all countries have in complete irresponsibility, not recognized the danger of the rampantly spreading corona disease …)

www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215
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Felinity
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Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hugo,

I didn't know that Billy doesn't read this forum. Thank you. Also, I do want to write an actual article for one of FIGU's newsletters, so I'm trying to see what people like vs. doesn't like. This was my attempt to be poetic.

Hi Tat,

Yes, I am aware of CR215. We are indeed going through what has been in prophecies.

Salome,

Belinda
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Hugo
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Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Felinity, I forgot to say in the second paragraph before that I think that, and not to make out like I know that.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, June 18, 2021 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An observation on Creational Laws, maybe relating to what Semjase told Billy about planet Earth. Law of physics is also applied here.

Coulomb’s Law: A force on a charge due to a group of charges is equal to the vector sum of all the Coulomb forces. Palm flowers attract each other into groups, but the groups repel each other.

Lorentz Force:
The force exerted on a charged particle in an electromagnetic field, [Earth].

Electrostatic Force:
The electrostatic interaction between charged particles; the amount and direction of attraction or repulsion between two charged bodies. A two mile per hour breeze of blowing over the top of the pool, creating a static charge on the palm flowers.


Thousands of yellowish-white flowers in each plume.


Groups of palm flowers in pool

In my neighborhood there are tall California Fan or Windmill palm trees that has either male or female flowers on their inflorescence stalks this time of the year. The small flowers average about 5 millimeters (0.19685 inch) in diameter.

When these flowers detach from the stalks, some land in the swimming pool water. It appears that gravitational attraction clumps some of these flowers together in various size groups that average between 5 to 10 centimeters (~2 to 4 inches). Each group keeps its distance from other groups maybe through meniscus (surface tension) across the entire pool area.

However, when I removed one group or clump of small flowers from one end of the pool, slowly all the groups start to move to fill to void, small movement is also evident on the opposite end of the pool.

This reminded me of a statement that Semjase once made (couldn’t find the CR) that if Earth was destroyed in the DERN universe, it would affect their DAL universe which is a twin to our DERN universe, in another dimension, as everything is connected throughout the cosmos.

Kenneth
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Miraj_raha
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I am a returning member.

A specific thought has been fiddling inside my head for quite some time, which is, do you all think that like us the Creation also evolves as it completes one cycle and approaches another? I see evolution as a universal truth, so thought why only us, if we are part of Creation
why not the Creation itself?
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Piyali
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 06:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome @Miraj_raha. Welcome back.
The answer to your question is, yes, Creation evolves too and is subject to the same laws and recommendations that we are subject to, being integrated into it. Here is a video, which I think will answer your questions in more depth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwDzBA2NLRg
The information about Creation in this video has been proofread by BEAM himself to make sure the information is accurate and he also added some more to it. The video is beautifully made by Harald Schossmann, who also translated the German text to English which I was very happy and honored to narrate when he reached out to me with it. We hope you enjoy and find the answers you are searching for.

Hello Piyali, Please be careful of posting Non-FIGU links, Thanks very much - Scott

(Message edited by scott on August 02, 2021)
Salome
Piyali
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Piyali
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome Scott, this s very much FIGU-related video. A member had a question about Creation and this is where he will find the answer. I do not post anything here that is non-FIGU, even when it appears to you as such. This comes from BEAM and with BEAM's permission the video has been made. I appreciate your "warning". I hope everyone who is curios about the information, will watch it.
Salome
Piyali
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Miraj_raha
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Piyali,

thanks a lot for the video, it contained many thoughts which have been pondering me. I think I may have to read Billy again, as his teachings seems to be in cognition to my own thoughts.

Anyway, next question I want to ask is about the fact of de-evolution, can human de-incarnate to animal, our sages say it is possible, but I think billy says somewhere, once you are human you cannot degenerate into animals.

What do you guys think?
and why does billy says so?
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Piyali
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome again, I would like to clarify a little more with regard to how this video happened, the link to which I shared here earlier with all of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwDzBA2NLRg - in response to a Creation enquiry by Miraj_raha.

I wrote to Harald Schossmann for more clarification so that no doubt remains on anyone's mind and this is what he wrote back to me:

"I wrote a German version which I sent to Bernadette Brand for verification. Bernadette told me that it got so complex that she wasn’t sure how to write certain things so she asked Billy. Billy then stepped it and said he’ll take care of it which he did. Billy added A LOT!!! And I’m incredibly thankful to him for his efforts.
As for the English version - Billy didn’t proof read it himself, but I had help in that department from Mariann Uehlinger who verifies most English translations. She made sure I uses the proper English terms for some German “creational energy reaching typical words” She even asked Billy repeatedly certain questions and it was Billy who said we should NOT translate The Absolutum form names, but maintain the German versions. So you can see great care went into this translation. In a nutshell: Mariann proofread it for me with additional feedback from Billy."
Salome
Piyali
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Scott
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Piyali,

This is the directive issued by FIGU a few years ago.

Perhaps you can contact Christian regarding this.


Thank you
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Piyali
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome dear Scott, thank you for directing my attention to the Directive.

It is written there, that the forum concentrates on FIGU/mission-relevant discussions and the link of the video is completely related.

It does indeed also say at the same time that: "Links are only permitted if they are directing to the websites of FIGU groups (or other websites as listed at “www.figu.org > Links”). Any links to other than those websites are not accepted."

I will most certainly clarify this with Christian, now that I have read the Directive. I will most certainly respect and observe it.

Last time I did not share a FIGU related link. but I wanted to acknowledge the member who is a musician and whose music I felt was inspired by his own study of the FIGU material. For this I apologize but it felt good to share, because he did not share his link, perhaps because he is aware of the Directive.

Thank you again and I will get back to you with what Christian clarified for me.
Salome
Piyali
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Scott
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your Welcome Piyali,

Keep me informed

Salome
Scott
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Piyali
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 04:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Salome dear Scott, here is the clarification from Christian with regard to the video on Creation which I shared here, which you have also received by email. I am sharing this here as well so that we all understand this clarification:

"Dear Piyali

We have to keep some "flexibility", which means that since the video in question has been created by the FIGU Studiengruppe Austria it does also belong into the FIGU SSSC realm or "www.figu,org family", just as all videos that are published in our own FIGUVIDEO channel on YouTube, e.g. the ones produced by Saalome.org.

In other words: sharing that video is ok, and actually recommended.

Thanks to both or you for your very valuable contribution to our mission.

Salome,
Christian"

Thank you for everything you do for us Scott. I respectfully adhere to the Directive. Thank you also for being a good friend, with respect and love to you.
Salome
Piyali
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Scott
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Piyali,

Thank you for letting me know this info from Christian. Maybe in the future you could mention this was from a certain Study Group or the source which would have helped me know it falls within the realm of FIGU related. Appreciate your effort.

Salome
Scott
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Piyali
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now that I know myself, I will do as you have requested Scott. Salome and thank you again.
Salome
Piyali
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The video is awesome and very informative! Thank you Piyali!
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Piyali

Good job! Thanks for sharing that video, THE CREATION: HOW IT ALL BEGAN, with this forum. And thanks naturally to Harald Schossmann, as well. Excellent film editing and production; and by the way, you have a very pleasant narrative voice.

At the 7:30 mark into the video, at the beginning of the discussion about the very beginning of Creation, the word NIHILO is used for the 'absolute nothing'. Here is an excerpt from your narration:

"The Universe has originated from the timelessness of the endless duration of the absolute Nihilo, and through the endless energy of the Nihilo, of the absolute nothing, an energy impulse has been created, by which a tremendously strong compressed My, a most tiny Myjota came about. This formed itself over the endless duration of the Nihilo perpetuity to an equally tiny egg-shaped creation particle. This energized in itself up to a most compressed tremendous energy mass which eventually exploded due to its' unimaginably high pressure and manifested itself as origin of the SEIN-Absolutum that is the SEIN-creation as the very first big bang of all existence of all endless permanent becoming & passing and becoming again. Thereby, the origin of the SEIN-Absolutum was created as tiny My-egg, from which the tremendous might of the SEIN-Absolutum evolved, which in the endless non-duration of its all-great-ever-perpetual existence ...<snip> This initially developed as an inconspicuous My, from which a Myjota developed and subsequently a tiny energy globule, which energized in itself, until it became a highly compressed energy mass, which finally exploded due to its high pressure in a big bang and became the origin of the very first creation-universe. After that and since then the Absolutes-Absolutum has created and creates in endless succession in the endless duration of the Nihilo incessantly new creations, which manifest themselves by a big bang, contain 7 dimensions as 7 universes and evolve independently over trillions of years to one day return into the Absolutes-Absolutum. There, they continue to evolve to one day - after having attained the highest form of evolution - cross into yet an even higher Absolutum form into the Primal-Absolutum (my note: I think this was previously called UR-Absolutum) This process, which takes so much time that humans can not possibly fathom, continues all the way to the SEIN-Absolutum, which thanks to the highly energetic creations uniting into it, grows increasingly mightful in energy to exist in ur-endless duration."

Whew. Absolutely.
Piyali, you mentioned previously that Billy added a lot more to the film and he seems to have added more terms to the lexicon of the creational teachings. The words NIHILO, MY & MYJOTA do not appear in the online FIGU Dictionary. Billy has used "nihilo" before but only as part of the phrase Creatio ex nihilo (Latin for "creation from nothing") as in this passage from CR 449:

Ptaah: (reading text that Billy has written)
45. Definition of the 'Nothing' respectively the 'Absolute Nothing Space'
As a definition of the 'nothing' respectively of the 'absolute non-space', from which the BEING-Absolutum as 'creation out of nothing' respectively 'Creation out of nothing' (creatio ex nihilo) has arisen, it is to be understood that it is about a boundless spatiality of endless duration, in which nothing materially existing resp. being is non-existent; hence absolute 'non-space'. Thus, the terms 'absolute nothing' and 'absolute non-space' mean that in this infinite and timeless, no materially existing matter respectively no 'being' is given respectively exists, namely, neither in any visible, audible nor in any perceptible or otherwise graspable form of being . . .<snip>

Ptaah:
46. These explanations are extremely interesting and very well explanatory, besides the fact that they are very valuable for us and open up perspectives hitherto unknown to us with regard to the original origin of the effective beginning of the becoming of the very first causation, from which the actual non-space and the endless duration were formed, from which, in the end, the BEING-Absolutum was born.
(Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_449)

It seems that Billy is fine-tuning his terminology and chose this video to debut those terms as I have not seen them anywhere else. Piyali, can you shed any more light on these terms, are my assumptions correct? Has anyone else seen these terms elsewhere in the material?

Regards
Bob

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