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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2020 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tut tut MsMichelle, you are supposing that what we 2 Charles's are doing is a waste of time. Obviously you don't understand how the google search works. In one respect creating a website is like creating a flower which will attract a butterfly so that pollination will occur -an uplifting experience-like an artist!Perhaps you too can become an artist -do not be consumed by negativity. I feel good about myself, since I am helping my fellow human being. Back in 2009 when I built my first website The Revolution of Truth, I had thousands of visitors. Maybe I had a positive impact on many of those people and perhaps some were attracted to the mission -as happened to me in 2004 when i chanced upon the Gaiaguys website. Now i am reincarnating my website, which I believe has evolved considerably!
Keep Well
Charles the Kiwi
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Norm
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone creating a website should add Twitter and Facebook etc. links to it.
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Norm
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone creating a website should add Twitter and Facebook etc. links to it.
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Bianca
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2020
Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2020 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiwiseeker,
Please drop me a line to
1bianca@protonmail.com

tahnk you, Bianca
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1207
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On 3 December 2019 the BBC published the following article, acknowledging Billy Meier.

The title of the article is;
- "The truth is out there? Billy Meier's UFO images"

News articles and promo-ads work;
- We all know how effective it turned out that BEAM was featured in the newspapers, not just for his work as the Phantom, but also for his photographs of beamships.

If a strategy is formed, in a neutral-balanced-equalized wise, that follows "sound marketing principles", then awareness and the right actions can be effectuated.

(Question):
What does it take to post an Informative Article or Promo-Ad in the local news?
Television?
Newspaper?
Social media?
Any other ideas?
A GoFundMe or similar to fund the cost of publishing, etc?
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 699
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie, what current "cause" or "events" which has followed "sound marketing principles" not associated with this mission, do you consider as successful?
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1150
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie Et al,

Television may be too expensive? Newspaper would be less expensive, but fewer are reading the newspaper. What about a billboard, one of those electronic types where Billy can be flashed on the screen, Plejaren ships etc. with Michael Horn's https://theyflyblog.com/ Blog address?

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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1150
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Electronic billboards are not that expensive, compared to the standard type that is labor intensive to setup.



Kenneth
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1208
Registered: 08-2010
Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,
Brilliant idea! You bring up some valid points, so digital billboard would be very feasible.

Mismichelle,
Regarding "sound marketing principles"... these are principles that have proven successful. I think this may be what you're asking?
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Norm
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Post Number: 216
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael is getting very close to his GoFundMe goal.

$11,205 raised of $12,400 goal
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Pup_stump
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 07-2020
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 04:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay MH, I am over here now.

You said on another thread, "I guess when your greeting to me has to be deleted by the moderator, it may be time to clarify some matters, much as I really don't like feeling the need to do so.

Just for the sake of being honest with everyone, it would be nice if you informed them that you've long had "issues" with the way I do my work for the mission, which also included sending me profanity filled, derogatory, personal attacks...for five years.

At the very least, it would be a bit of full disclosure, kinda like that law of contrariness thing you like to talk about, etc., and a great example of the difference between the impression you're trying to give about your study of the spiritual teaching, etc., and the way you chose to put it into practice with a fellow student."

Mr "Napoleon" Horn,

I do not have issues with your mission work. I have bought all your videos and offered up praise. Where I have disagreement is when you expect others to fall in line with your methods or conclusions. I do not agree with you all the time and would like the freedom to express my views. As a matter of fact I don't see this case, the information, and so forth like the typical Figu student.

As far as any profanity, you expect me to take your "tongue and cheek" hurtful, often inaccurate criticism and then you discount mine. One thing I learned from my injury is who my friends are and who are not. Currently I am banned from making comments on your blog. After email after email of trying to reason with you, to explain my unique approach, and my unique personality, I ended up nowhere... banned and abandoned. So forgive me if I called you a MFer, or a POS or whatever at the time.

What you don't understand is that it was never for all time. Like my last post on your blog, acting religious is a stalled opinion that was established in the past and has not progressed over time. This goes contrary to the Universe which is moving forward, in constant change and improvement. So too the spiritually minded human being is constantly improving over time, or should be. So when another person clings to the past faults of this human being, ignoring improvement, he or she is practicing religion.

All the best,
AA
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1477
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthony,

Had you not brought me into this discussion personally, I would’ve never mentioned anything about the interactions with you.

Since you wish to pursue it here, for the sake of time, accuracy and clarity, here’s what I have to say.

As you also know, even during the time you were sending my your - anything but - "tongue and cheek” vitriolic attacks, I championed your participation in the AZ spiritual teaching study group. Even while in the group, you sent me additional emails, also making it clear that you thought “FIGU people” and the mission were worthy of continuing profanity laced attacks. That went for the people on my blog and this forum as well.

Once the group learned about all this, and your five years of attacks against me, they made the rare decision to vote you out of the group, as you know. Ultimately, for many of the same reasons, you were banned from my blog…after a number of unsuccessful attempts for you to participate within the guidelines.

In continued emails to me, you resolved some of my questions about your seeming passive-aggressive behavior by effectively telling me that you’re also a proud life long drug addict. Fine and dandy…but you also repeatedly stated that Meier actually endorsed the use of drugs for greater insights, spiritually, etc., some things that I’ve still been unable to find anywhere in the information. and spiritual teaching.

This isn’t a popularity contest for me but, as far as being “Napoleonic” or “religious” in my conduct, etc., while I freely admit to being very proactive and more than willing to take on those who attack Meier, the mission and/or me, I don’ find those descriptors to be accurate. So far , while I have read the term “pit bull” from Christiaan Frehner, such accusations you make haven't been directed at me by Meier/FIGU.
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Tyler
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Post Number: 218
Registered: 03-2017
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthony, pardon me for saying, but would you be willing to put your personal interaction with Michael on hold until next year?

We need to use this forum to organise ourselves and take logical steps for the next benefit of the mission.

Perhaps Michael could learn how to do better in the future, and you are the right person to teach him how to do that, but I am finding it difficult to concentrate on the task at hand. Would you mind?
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Scott
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Post Number: 3142
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthony aka Pup_stump has already exited the forum and withdrew his account....Anthony has been on this forum almost since the beginning, we met in 2000 and also 2006....but since then he has come and gone many times....Good luck Anthony wherever you may go...
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Patm
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Post Number: 802
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interactions within a group are necessary for everyone's self-development and these include confrontations. These confrontations, however must be conducted in a manner that includes esteem, respect, acceptance and equality for the one's own self as well as for all others.

I would highly recommend EVERYONE read, or in some cases RE-read, the following three articles written by Philia Stauber:

1) 'Things Worth Knowing' which can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Books/Articles/Things_Worth_Knowing.pdf

2) 'Working and Learning Within the Group' which can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Articles/Working_and_Learning_Within_The_Group.pdf

3) 'FIGU-Groups and Non-hierarchical Structures' which can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Articles/FIGU-Groups_and_Non-hierarchical_Structures.pdf

Thanks and Salome
PatM
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Tyler
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 03-2017
Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was probably warranted.

If I remember my study of the fairytales in "Der rosarote Kristall", how Anthony is conducting himself here is not bad really.

Anthony, if you see this, you remind me of one of the playful imps in one of the fairytales. I'm sorry I accused you of being a weed and not a good seed.

In the fairytale, impish pucks are needed just like earnest stalwarts; us stalwarts feel the call to duty strongly I feel, but I expect the plaful sorts help to keep everything sane and not too serious / zealous.

I imagine without your kinds of prodding comments, one of us stalwarts might now and then become too severe and even become like those crazy zealots and crusaders.

But for the success of the mission, one of the greatest battles is the one against our own potential of becoming ausgeartet, because that's always disaster.

I have a friend myself who never talks seriously, but he IS wise. He infuriates me at times with his silly behaviour, but it's also healthy for me too.

Please don't limit what you want to say, I take back my overly severe comments from before where I called you a bad weed.
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Patm
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Post Number: 851
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2020 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I requested clarification from FIGU regarding the translating and publishing of FIGU copyrighted and 'Creative Commons' licensed texts. This was discussed between FIGU Switzerland, FIGU Landesgruppe Canada, FIGU Landesgruppe Australia and Future-of-Mankind and myself. The resulting information was agreed to by all and will be incorporated into all Facebook groups I am administrator of regarding the translating and publishing of FIGU copyrighted and 'Creative Commons' licensed texts as posts from this point on. It is requested that all group Administrators and Moderators (and group members) assist helping everyone comply with these recommendations. Thanks in advance for your understanding - Patrick McKnight

'Copyrighted' texts
examples:

- all FIGU German copyrighted books (except 'Goblet of the Truth') and the periodical 'Stimme der Wassermannzeit (Voice of the Aquarian Age)'
* requires FIGU/Billy/author permission/contract to translate and publish
* short (a few sentences" up to a paragraph) excerpts can be translated and published without permission

- all non-German language translations of FIGU copyrighted books
* all translations into a non-German language must be done from the original German text, not from any other language translation.

'Creative Commons' licensed texts
examples:

- only one FIGU book ('Goblet of the Truth') is 'Creative Commons' licensed

- all FIGU Periodicals (except Stimme der Wassermannzeit (Voice of the Aquarian Age)

- excerpts from copyrighted FIGU books published by FIGU in FIGU periodicals

- FIGU public announcements (e.g., 'Corona-Virus Warning Service')

Regarding all translations:

- all translations into a non-German language must be done from the original German text, not from any other language translation.

- all translations should include the original German text (or a link to the original German text) - for reference, author and translator

- with all translations that are published, corrections become the responsibility of the translator/publisher

- all translations that are published, should be pointed to (link/url), not republished elsewhere (one source for corrections)

- an authored summary (without excerpts) of a FIGU text translation should identify the FIGU source(s) as a reference.

- all translations into a non-German language, where only an online translator is used (no use of the FIGU Dictionary), must identify the online translator used and include a warning similar to that used on FOM: example:- "This is an unofficial DeepL preliminary English translation and most probably contains errors. Please note that all errors and mistakes etc. will continuously be corrected, depending on the available time of the involved persons. Therefore, do not copy-paste and publish this version elsewhere, because any improvement and correction will occur HERE in this version!. Pointers (links/urls) to this translation can be published elsewhere."

Also note: If you are only using an online translator, identify the online translator used. Do NOT claim the translation as your own as this is a form of plajiarizing!

Hope this helps,
PatM
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 04-2020
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wanted: A Science of UFOs | Alexander Wendt | TEDxColumbus

“Science should take UFOs seriously”, says Prof. Dr. Alexander Wendt a noted political scientists. After professorships at Yale, Dartmouth and Chicago, the award-winning scientist is currently teaching at Ohio State University and is considered one of the founders and most important representatives of constructivism in the theory of international relations. In a lecture that was as unusual as it was remarkable, Wendt publicly and unequivocally spoke out against the tabooing of scientific recognition and research into the UFO phenomenon with regard to the possibility that some "real UFOs" could also be extraterrestrial visitors.

Dr. Alexander Wendt is one of the most cited social and political scientists, his book on the “Social Theory of International Politics” was honored by the “International Studies Association” in 2006 with the award “Best Book of the Decade”. As part of the “TEDx Talks” in Columbus, Wendt recently used his barely 15-minute speaking time for his short but no less committed demand for an “end of the tabooing of the UFO phenomenon by modern society, news media, science and the world Politics".

The folks at FIGU clearly support Wendt's proposal and have an article about this talk in their recent FIGU Bulletin.

Excerpts from the talk:
“Because when you think about it, it is very surprising (this prohibition to deal scientifically with the UFO phenomenon). Because we humans are incredibly curious beings. We want to explore in depth everything we do not understand and examine when we have the opportunity. In fact, we're so curious that we've invested hundreds of millions of dollars in building giant radar telescopes to look for signs of intelligent life around distant stars - although there is still no evidence of this gives.

But when it comes to UFOs, we don't invest a single cent. The scientific community has never conducted a single serious, sustained, and systematic study of the UFO phenomenon. Even with the possibility that if some UFOs were found to be extraterrestrial, it would be one of the most significant events in human history. And yet we hear only silence or ridicule from scientists towards people who believe in UFOs. The reason for this is that you don't believe that UFOs exist. "

Finally, Wendt asks: “So why are UFOs a taboo at all? Why is it that pilots, scientists, even social and political scientists, have to worry about their reputations when they speak publicly about UFOs? Why don't we treat the UFO phenomenon like any other phenomenon we don't understand - with science?

This in turn leads me to my final remark: In my opinion, academics and scientists above all have a duty to tell the truth. The truth of the matter, however, is that we have no idea what UFOs are - and no one in a position of power or authority is trying to change anything. And that is exactly what should both astonish and disturb us. And it raises the question of whether people shouldn't start to answer these questions themselves.

Tedx
Regards
Bob
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1506
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I contacted Prof. Wendt some months ago. Bottom line, he retreated citing something about his "health" as the excuse, er, reason.

See also:

https://theyflyblog.com/2020/12/famous-british-ufo-skeptics-abducted/
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 04-2020
Posted on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's interesting, Michael. I hope Prof. Wendt's "health" issues get resolved - it would be nice if you two could enter into a fruitful and positive interaction. He seems at least open to ET visitation and the Meier case clearly has the most compelling evidence.

Regards
Bob
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Norm
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Post Number: 282
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2021 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All these years we’ve heard about Menara. I was wondering how many people here would be interested in seeing an official drawing of her made by the Plejaren?
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Scott
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Post Number: 3379
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2021 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know something we don't? I was thinking after the Plejarens leave, perhaps we may get images of them?
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Scott
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Post Number: 3380
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2021 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only image that has appeared recently was the sketch of one of the Plejeren, but I don't recall the name?

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