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Eddie
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 11:32 am: | 
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I fully agree as well, to me EM's priorities seems a bit fluffy.
Regarding Starlink:
As with so much other technology, the Starlink technology can be used for good and bad purposes.
It is a innovative idea that a worldwide network of 12000 satellites can ensure, that all the citizens of the globe have the opportunity for a stable wireless network connection. Many will thus have the opportunity to find controlled information, and capitalize on the boom in internet commerce in so called developing countries.
However, using Starlink will also mean, that the data flow and thus the information in the network in question will be centralized, and geography and spatial positioning will also be very precise. Besides, it will be easy to rearrange or turn on/off the access in whole regions.
Starlink is financially and knowledgeably supported by NASA via partnership, perhaps in part because NASA must recognize that, should they themselves have made a similar network without reusable launchers, the cost per. satellite and contributor become too high, so would the general acceptance on the planet that the US would thus have a global network.
Without major sword fights, most nations have shown acceptance that, in the future, it is a private (but authority-supported) company that has been given full control of our common local environment in space as well as who reads what when.
During wartime, beeing in control of information is vital. And it is well known that war-, surveillance- and cargodrones, fully automatic self-driving (Tesla) cars, and precision bombing are deeply dependent on high geographical precision.
As I see it, there are many commercial and few political and military winners in the Starlink project - but the environment, our freedom (of speech on first hand), access to Truth and technological development are not among them...Starlink may be a wet dream for a control freak.
Salome,
Eddie |
Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 01:11 pm: |
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Kenneth the conclusion that I'd derived from Billy's statement that "What unpleasant things will ultimately result from the whole project when it is brought to an end about this then the whole world will not be pleased, but about this I have nothing to say." was that be he a very well intended person with the best of intentions whose genius is put to use to benefit human kind and the planet, Elon has to still work within an already entrenched system of control the powers that be have already established whose genius would most likely have be co-opted to serve their own opaque agendas.
How could somebody become the 5th richest person on the planet even as a byproduct and an incidental happenstance of his genius without the backing of the giant financial might and the mighty whose system of control involves the power to regulate, legislate and enforces rules and regulation that govern the conduct and behaviours of players.
How many backyard geniuses do we know of were out there who were suicided, imprisoned on trumped up charges, bankrupted, assassinated, bought off, co-opted, threatened, corrupted, reputation destroyed, their ideas stolen like Stanley Meyers of this world who stood up to the powers that be and played hardball who could've made it big had they cooperated but instead ended up 6 feet under.
As you very well know with your expertise in the field of aerospace engineering its one of the most regulated industry in the world besides the arms industry as they go hand in hand.
So how could an upstart like Elon all of a sudden create a company whose first hurdle must've been to navigate around a minefield of regulations and the tight arsed regulators, the approval processes, complex certification processes, the legislative requirements, the testing procedures, terms of conditions to do with insurance, the health and safety acts and legislation, importation procedures, not to mention the environmental act, the right procedures of procurement of supplies, conformance to the right standards and specifications, the tendering procedures and processes for government contracts just to name a few, as we are essentially talking about ICBMs here, without the help of some delegation of very powerful individuals and ex CIA contractors on his payroll pulling the proverbial strings behind the scene.
So when the plejaren state that earthling's problem is our penchant for weaponising everything then it is a foregone conclusion that those 12,000 satellites floated up there in space by the project's end will definitely play a role in the total surveillance grid and the internet of things where it'll act as the beefed up version and the latest incarnation of the surveillance satellite system already up there to which 'Billy stated that 'nobody is able to move around without being detected by it'
Double and triple speak is the old and the new norm where people must read between the line many times over especially any news coming out of the lamestream media.
When Space X or any number of outfits pronounce that their latest Starlink project is to provide internet coverage to even the most remotest of places on this earth then what that is essentially saying is that even the most remote of every nook and cranny of this world will not be untouched by this system and hence it has its tentacles everywhere.
You just have to look at the names of some of Elon's employees, affiliates and corporate partners on the list to get some idea where this is going.
No wonder people will be unhappy.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 02:00 pm: |
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Hi Scott,
Yes, I agree, you bring up some good points, I thought the same thing about Musk opening auto facility too soon. EM is always several moves ahead of others in thought and technology. Politician Gavin Newsom, governor of California is destroying that state according to several people that I interviewed moving to Arizona. Also, have several friends still living in California, all of them have said that Governor Newsom is out of control and making terrible decisions. EM is also having issues with Newsom, but will not make it public. Due to continuing state political issues, Musk said that he planes on moving his Tesla auto plant out of California.
It is my understanding that EM set up sanitary stations, temperature readings of incoming workers, medical check etc. before allowing workers back into the Tesla facility. On the other hand, we all know that the Corona Virus cannot be detected in specific circumstances of existence. This is concerning.
I scrutinize Musk’s actions meticulously; even when working in the aerospace industry as SpaceX was our competitor; he kept outmaneuvering us and accomplishing tasks that we thought was impossible or unavailable at the current time. In my opinion he is moving too fast in some areas and may overlook something critical, he does make mistakes, but corrects and recovers quickly. He is an interesting character personality to observe.
Scot, you mentioned Neuralink, the presentations are impressive, he appears to have a genuine concern for humanity, where others are concerned for wealth & profit first. EM continually warns everyone about AI (Artificial Intelligence) and says that not enough precautions are being taken, AI will get out of control if we are not careful. Everything that EM has said so far have come to fruition.
Regarding LIDAR, an acronym for “light detection and ranging.” The three-dimensional LIDAR system was originally developed for DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) a decade ago by Velodyne, which uses eye-safe laser beams to create a 3D representation of the surveyed environment with pulsed light waves into the surrounding environment, which is now used by Google for their LIDAR self-driving cars. FYI, DARPA is always involved with highly secret projects and the Industrial Military Complex.
LIDAR equiped Vehicle
Elon Musk said that he originally planned the use of the LIDAR technology for the self-driving Tesla vehicles, but soon realized that it had major flaws, it was not good enough and posed some safety concerns for the public and the environment, EM dropped LIDAR and developed his own technology called Tesla Autopilot, advanced driver-assistance system, which is much safer for public automobiles and various challenges when driving, he said that LIDAR will not survive for independent self-directed driving requirements. But it works well with space craft, said Musk.
We will see is LIDAR survives with autonomous driving, it has not been abandoned yet, millions of dollars have been put into this project. Intel Corp. has recently joined the LIDAR market and is also involved in updating the system. If EM is correct, LIDAR will more than likely mutate into something closer to Tesla’s proven automobile Autopilot system with help from Intel.
An interesting note: Last year (2019) I had a meeting with an Intel representative. One of the conversations centered around LIDAR verses Tesla’s Autopilot system. The Intel rep became rather indignant and would not talk about Tesla or their newly developed automotive Autopilot system or even look at the vehicle which was provided.
Kenneth |
Michael_horn
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 04:03 pm: |
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I think it's been mentioned that the Musk satellites would provide 5G. If that's so, does it mean further bombardment of the earth and everything on it with these deadly frequencies? |
Cpl
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 08:29 pm: |
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Michael, re your "...does it mean further bombardment of the earth and everything on it with these deadly [5G] frequencies?" That is my assumption, but note an assumption. I have heard that Apple is also working on a similar global communications network that may not involve 5G. Apple, of course, if it is so involved, is "Mum" on the issue but an announcement might be forthcoming soon. This could explain Billy's saying that the world would not be happy with it or not ultimately benefit because of the negative 5G radiation and the global surveillance that goes with it, and the "if it comes about" because Apple might beat Musk to the program. Note, that I heard this from reliable sources, but there is some speculation involved.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 09:54 pm: |
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Hello Matt lee (Newinitiation),
I empathize where you are coming from with the assumptions and conjectures based on past events not associated with Musk. This is not necessarily off point as I am looking for facts to back up claims such as yours. Nonetheless, keeping an open mind and observing Musk’s actions and inventions with a neutral positive attitude is essential, from my prospective. Right now, he is the only corporation pushing back on the oil and auto industry. Musk has warned about the dangers of climate change many times, not many are listening.
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 10:30 pm: |
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If I'm not mistaken, the whole world will not be pleased about the coming to an end of the Starlink satellites?
Billy also mentions that some unpleasant things will also result because it is brought to an end?
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2020 - 10:59 pm: |
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Hi Michael,
Your question, “I think it's been mentioned that the Musk satellites would provide 5G. If that's so, does it mean further bombardment of the earth and everything on it with these deadly frequencies?”
Thank you, that is, “The $64,000 Question” (CBS radio quiz show, Take It or Leave It) I have been waiting for! Bianca and I have talked about this issue in depth. Recently read an article that stated, from retrospect, the 5G network being installed in Europe is more harmful than the 5G being installed in the U.S. This sounds like BS to me, not buying it, looking for statistics and data.
Note:
5G is the term used to describe the next generation of mobile networks beyond LTE mobile networks. ... According to ITU guidelines, 5G network speeds should have a peak data rate of 20 Gb/s for the downlink and 10 Gb/s for the uplink.
There is a way to make these communications safe, The Plejaren are doing it with something beyond 5G, I have my suspicions and uncertainties, but this does not prove that Musk is installing a safe 5G network.
Check out this video, “StarLink is FAR more important than 5G”
It has been said that the most important things about Starlink is that Governments will not be able to shut it down. It means people can communicate with the outside world during times of unrest or disaster. This sounds bogus (fake) to me. Governments can shut anything down if they want to.
I am not an expert in radio frequencies. In my opinion, the low-orbit Starlink satellites will flood Earth with powerful, focused electromagnetic beams that emit radio frequency (RF) and microwave radiation that could possibly adversely affect the health of humans, animals’ plants, and the rest of the environment. It is speculated that these satellites may have an impact on Earth’s natural electromagnetic field. To my knowledge, no national or international agency has taken action to evaluate the environmental impact of the satellites’ emissions. This is apparently an unknown that we will soon find out. Is this what Billy is referring to when he said that the world would not be happy with it?
Kenneth |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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| | Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 12:54 am: |
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Michael,
We have these technologies being stationed on the ground too. Musk sattelites will have to prove worse where cover up is not possible anymore. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 02:00 am: |
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A Possible Explanation of Billy's Statement
The sentence in question in German:
"Was sich letztendlich aus dem ganzen Projekt Unerfreuliches ergeben wird, wenn es zu Ende geführt werden kann, darüber wird die ganze Welt dann nicht erfreut sein, doch darüber habe ich nichts zu sagen. "
This much is clear:
It expresses that ultimately, if it is possible to complete the project, something "unpleasant" will result, about which the whole world will be unhappy / not pleased.
The meaning of the appendix "doch darüber habe ich nichts zu sagen" ("but I have nothing to say about that") could express:
1) Many people had asked Billy about the origin of the UFOs in the skies - the bulletin lists ca. 8 pages of UFO sighting reports before Billy's answer - so the primary question Billy had to answer was not whether the SpaceX mission (or 5G) was beneficial for mankind - but what origin the UFOs in our skies have.
So this appendix ("but I have nothing to say about that") may well express that "what I have to answer to the many questions" is not the result of the SpaceX mission but that the origin of the UFOs that were sighted by many (= that they were mainly SpaceX satellites).
IOW - Billy may mention the displeasing result only <en> i.e. as a short note or "add-on".
2) There is as well a chance that Billy , as Chris explained in his post, is not allowed to give any further details re. what or why this project will cause "displeasure" all over the world.
(But I think if this was the case he would have expressed this more directly - e.g. "... I am not allowed to give any further information about the outcome of this project ...")
3) It could be that Billy may know some but not all of the future result: E.g. he may know that 5G network will, as Michael explained, " ... bombard earth and everything on it with deadly frequencies" but he may not know the specifics of the negative result.
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Hugo
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| | Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 05:13 pm: |
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If Musk's satellites are going to provide 5G to the whole world will they be as dangerous as the 5G beamed out from the antennas stationed here on Earth because I would have thought something like that uses a lot of electricity to do? If so, how can Musk's satellites powered by batteries bombard us with dangerous levels of radiation? |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 11:34 pm: |
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"Smart Dust"
Dear Moderators - kindly check whether this article can be published without endangering Figu.
Hi Hugo,
I mentioned what Michael said. But there may be a different reason why we should concerned about 5 G:
Earlier in the discussion the “Neuralink” memory chip technology for pigs was mentioned … and mind control is the highly controversial subject of one of the articles mentioned in Figu ZZ 129 (Nov 2019)…
Below a translation.
Salome, Bill
PS
I do not know how reliable this information is. Maybe Kenneth - would you know more about it?
(The ZZ translation may contain errors)
The real reason for 5G is 1000 times worse than the radiation!
“In the early 1990s, the development of Smartdust was discussed publicly for the first time. This is a swarm of nanorobots coordinated via a cloud. Scientists are working on this project on behalf of DARPA (research department of the US Department of Defense) to advance the military application. Specifically, the aim is to implant these nanorobots in the human brain to take control of neural activity and control them remotely via a 5G cloud. What sounds like Hollywood and science fiction at this point was described quite precisely in the 2013 MIT Technology Review:
"Intelligent dust particles embedded in the brain could create a completely new form of interface between the brain and the machine, according to engineers. "Real-time monitoring of brain function has increased dramatically in recent years. This is largely due to various new technologies that can monitor the collective behavior of groups of neurons, (...).
"This work is revolutionizing our understanding of the structure and behavior of the brain. It has also led to a new design discipline of brain-machine interfaces that allows humans to control machines by thinking alone."
One of the authors, Michel Maharbiz, developed the world's first remote-controlled beetle several years ago, a development that was named one of the top 10 technologies of 2009 by the Technology Review. The following video shows what this looks like in practice in animals:
(At the clip's 1:18 interval it is demonstrated how a beetle is remote controlled with a smartphone and the aim of the research is to do the same with humans!)
They will sell us this technology as a new achievement that should make your life easier. The danger or rather the covert plan of this project is to connect people to a cloud so that they can be remotely controlled from a central office. This is the ultimate enslavement from which there will be no escape; at least not by your own efforts. The perfidious thing about it is that the nano-robots are absorbed unnoticed via the respiratory tract.
Alex Jones already warned against the cabal's eugenics agenda (trans-humanism) in 2007 in his legendary documentary "Endgame - Blueprint for Global Enslavement". The documentary is a real piece of education that has contributed significantly to the awakening of the masses and everyone should have seen it! (Especially worth seeing is the 2nd part, the complete version can be found below and dubbed in German).
The fact that Jones was completely banned from the social networks some 12 years later shows how far the plans he revealed at the time have progressed in the meantime.
The dark agenda of the cabals is absolutely real and can be seen in the more than 60-page strategic plan of the National Nanotechnology Initiative for 2011 (88 pages since 2014). It is a long-term investment in nanotechnology applications to enable the management of all aspects of human life within the environment, health and safety monitoring matrix. There are an incredible 25 different .. federal agencies involved.
Note:
Technological progress is basically something valuable; as long as it is not misused and, above all, not used against people. Unfortunately, as long as the world is ruled by psychopaths, we must always assume the worst from experience: Wars, weather manipulation, mind control...
On March 8, the trans-humanist agenda was also discussed quite clearly and, above all, surprisingly openly in the manipulated political program on Swiss television "Arena" (video below). And there are obviously still fools with the foresight of a mole who find this fascinating. At least no one can claim anymore that they haven't heard about it.
German Original
https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/zeitzeichen/figu_zeitzeichen_129.pdf
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Kenneth
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Hi Hugo,
Excellent question. SpaceX and Starlink operations are keeping much of their information of this constellation secret for the time being. An IT experienced person may know a more accurate answer. My understanding is that the Low Earth Orbit (LEO) Starlink satellites are more like relay stations than anything else. These satellites must communicate with ground receivers/transmitters somewhere on Terra.
So, if I understand this correctly, if a person is located in a remote area, their device will communicate with the closest available satellite (sat) in the constellation and immediately relay the signal from one sat to another until it reaches a sat that is located closest to a ground receiver/transmitter.
Apparently, the uplink 5G signal to a corresponding (sat) in the constellation would utilize the most power in the transmission of information from sat to sat until it reaches the closest sat nearest the person requesting the information, even if the person moved to a different location. The signal strength of the down link to the remote person is currently unknown. This is what everyone is rightfully worried about.
According to Starlink, they will offer speeds of up to 1 Gbit per second with latencies (delay before a transfer of data begins following an instruction for its transfer.) between 25 ms and 35 ms (ms: milliseconds). Existing sat broadband latencies are around 600 ms or more.
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Tat_tvam_asi and Kenneth,
That all sounds very worrying if it is true. But everything seems to be a big worry at this moment in todays crazy world.
I always took comfort in dreaming about going to live on my rural property one day when I retire in future and escaping all these negative things from suburbia. I'm not happy if that is the future. |
Cpl
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If the Apple version beats Tesla it may not involve 5G. The rumour is that Apple plans to have satellites (provided by affiliates) with built in routers and internet provider tech so that they can just beam direct internet access to any device from space. If it goes ahead it will "creatively destroy" the internet cable industry, and 5G towers. The connectivity will be five times as fast as the present system, and possibly even cheaper for US citizens, who currently have one of the more expensive and less efficient systems in the world.
The big question is whether it means beaming down 5G, and some think it will not mean that. Hopefully it won't and it will KO Musk's 5G system rather like the new glass crystals under development may KO his Gigafactory.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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| | Posted on Monday, September 07, 2020 - 09:46 pm: |
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Bill,
Your statement, “The dark agenda of the cabals…eugenics agenda (trans-humanism) in 2007 in his legendary documentary "Endgame - Blueprint for Global Enslavement", sounds suspiciously like what the Bafath were trying to accomplish? Those that died on Earth, are their spiritforms back again?
I have always given a person the benefit of the doubt before this was mentioned. Unfortunately, as long as the world is ruled by psychopaths, we must always assume the worst, especially when it come to politicians and the like.
Your question; “…in the discussion the “Neuralink” memory chip technology for pigs was mentioned…”.
Yes, on a You-Tube video Elon Musk demonstrated where a pig that was apparently in pain from some injury, had a Neuralink chip installed that was not visible. The pig seems comfortable and enjoyed playing with the other pigs. Elon went on to say that it is possible that these chips can be used for telepathy communication between two humans with the Neuralink chips installed in their brains. According to this article there is no pain associated with the operation, pretty much an outpatient visit.
Look up “NEURALINK: 3 NEUROSCIENTISTS REACT TO ELON MUSK’S BRAIN CHIP REVEAL”:
Keep in mind that Musk and Neuralink are behind the curve. The government is letting him take the brunt of the objections and complaints from the general public. DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) is years ahead of him!
Also see this article; “MILITARY PILOTS CAN CONTROL THREE JETS AT ONCE VIA A NEURAL IMPLANT” talks about DARPA, the military’s research division, unveiled a project that it had been working on since 2015. This technology allows one person to pilot multiple planes and drones with their mind only.
“…, signals from the brain can be used for command and control, not just one aircraft but three simultaneous types of aircraft”. According to Justin Sanchez, director of DARPA’s Biological Technologies Office.
This research project was unveiled at a “Trajectory of Neuro-technology” session at DARPA’s 60th anniversary event. Back in 2016, a volunteer equipped with a brain-computer interface (BCI) was able to pilot an aircraft in a flight simulator while keeping two other planes in formation, all using just his thoughts, according to a spokesperson from DARPA’s Biological Technologies Office.
Best regards
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Very interesting. Thank you, Kenneth.
It is not my intent to judge EM.
Indeed, if I align my view with what Ptaah told Billy - many of the “highly intelligent terrestrial people” in our world today - they may be parts of the 8 x 144,000 who live to raise the knowledge of their fellow humans (and the conscious awareness of their oneness with laws of nature) and who receive - like Einstein - Plejaren impulses.
But we should as well consider what Billy explained (“unhappy outcome of the project” and that earth humans are apt to weaponize inventions). And that Ptaah tells us that ‘terrestrial man’ is 'autocratic', does not listen to outside advice.
What I mean by that is, however, not related to the person of EM as such. It is related to the fact that the ruling elites with which these descendants of the 8 x 144,000 have to mingle/associate may not always perceive the world with 'empathy and universal oneness' – but rather with a view as “how do I protect my superior life style” and the possessions they amassed.
Add to this the over-competitiveness of our present day surroundings which I often compare with the Brownian particle – particle movement in physics. The hotter and denser the particles get, the less controllable, the more erratic they are.
The same behaviour may arise among the people of on an overheating, overpopulating planet. There is 'elbowing', there is a fight for the limited resources, there is greed. And there is a need for tools that allow the ruling elites to control the masses.
So, even if the descendants 8 x 144,000 may have the right inclinations their intelligence may ultimately be used to strengthen the power of the ruling elites. And the real intelligence from all of this? Well, as Ptaah or Quetzal told Billu we should create a new race that teaches and lives by the Spirit Teaching.
This was the meaning of "writings".
Salome, Bill |
Kenneth
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Hi Bill or anyone,
Can you explain or confirm? I was not sure what 8 x 144,000 meant? My understanding is that the exact number of Earth immigrants from the Nokodemion lineage are 144,210 and 228 superiors each came to Earth during more than two million years?
It appears that the number 144,000 is just an abbreviation or acronym of sorts. So, the 8 x 144,000 means that the Nokodemion descendants came to Earth eight (8) times in groups of 144,210 plus 228 superiors, all different spiritforms, or died here and reincarnated eight times, or maybe a combination thereof?
An observation from Contact Report 251 :http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/144,000
indicates that most of not all humans on Earth in advanced thoughts and actions are of the original 144,210 plus 228 superiors (144,438 total) to include most if not all those associated with the FIGU groups?
Ptaah’s number of 1,151,828 divided by 8 emigrations equals 143,978.5, not 144,000 or 144,210 or 144,438, my math is not working. What am I missing? I may be interpreting this incorrectly, why is the 144,210 or the total of 144,438 significant to happen eight times?
Ptaah:
30. Such records actually exist in our annals, some of which are directly attributed to the prophet Nokodemion, but also to his successors Henok and Enoch.
31. …our annals refer to a number of eight different emigration powers of 144,000 persons each and 228 superiors each, who came to Earth in the course of more than two million years from the Nokodemion descendant peoples.
32. And here is a total number of 1,151,828 people who were involved.
33. Of these persons, 575,914 remained on Earth, died there and are born again with their old reincarnating spirit forms as new personalities.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Okay, I jumped too soon. In reading the "Reporting errors, mistakes etc... in FIGU material", it appears that I am finding my own answer located at:
The 144,000, Old Lyrians-Vegans
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/144,000
Salome
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Yes, Kenneth, the nos. do not exactly match.
I felt the same. But when I realized how this may have happened, I did not see the difference as too important: Ptaah may have first only remembered the rounded figure before locating (and telling Billy) the exact no. (1,151,828) that was stored on his computer.
Summa Summarum: The correct figure may well be 1,151,828 which is roughly 8 x 144,000.
Salome, Bill |
Newinitiation
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Kenneth my maths is short of 400
144,000×8=1,152,000+228=1,152,228-1,151,828=400
Maybe the 400 members got stuck in another dimension somewhere having to settle with 77 virgins each or got 'you're fired' in the process.
I think it's just a simple CR transmission, translation, transcribing, memory error.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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HI Bill,
Thanks for your response, your suggestion of rounded numbers and the final "correct figure may well be 1,151,828 which is roughly 8 x 144,000" makes sense.
Nonetheless, the "144,000, Old Lyrians-Vegans
http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/144,000" is a good read.
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Matt Lee,
You crack me up, "Maybe the 400 members got stuck in another dimension somewhere having to settle with 77 virgins each or got 'you're fired' in the process." LOL. Nothing wrong with a little humor.
Salome
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Matt lee |
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