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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 734
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 05:51 am: | 
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Based on various contact reports I've read...most "races" are from other planet(s) and decided to "set up" in certain regions of Earth. Most "forgot" their advanced "technologies" due to the "original sin-genetic manipulation". However, the reasons are far more extensive, detailed, and require re-reading the contact reports and putting things into perspective based on your learning curve...meaning BEAM and Ps put the answers to our many questions in several collections of contact reports, and books requiring us (the students) to research, think, apply "sum of all totals", gather experience, progress,move forward in our learning and understanding
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2421
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 09:34 am: |
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Chris as far as I can recall the impulse giving (your term) may have been a lot longer than a recent phenomenon.
Throughout history for tens of thousands of years the plejaren mission related forefathers had to contend with the precursor to the now defunct Giza Intelligences.
The white race may have been the recipient of impulses for rapid advancement as a result of tug of war between the benevolent and malevolent ETs.
So I don't think its a recent phenomenon.
It may have also been a preferential thing where the plejaren and the GIs were also white and they must've both been responsible for impulsing terrestrials to neutralise each other's machinations throughout history for different reasons.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1217
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 12:38 pm: |
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Chris (CPL, Newinitiation (Matt Lee),
Chris, thank you for the information regarding the development of civilizations, and the spreading of information, that helps.
Matt, “…tug of war between the benevolent and malevolent ET’s…”, very interesting thoughts, thanks. It actually makes a lot of sense.
Salome
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1358
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 04:44 pm: |
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Interesting perspective, Matt, but we do know that the main reason for the impulses was for technological development to enable the production of computers so that Billy could complete the mission. German, the language of arguably the main European country and a very close candidate for the language of the USA in the 18th century, was also a reason for the impulses going mainly to Europe and America. The Plejaren needed an Earth language that translated directly into their own and they worked for millennia it seems to achieve that. As I see it, the technological developments were to enable the mission, not to combat the Giza Intels (GI). Any such technologies are still way beyond us, because they would need a knowledge of "real vision" creation and usage or cancellation. The mission was the obvious answer to combat that GI manipulation with the reason and logic of truth and the spiritual teaching.
When you say, "So I don't think its a recent phenomenon" what do you mean by "recent"? We know that the Plejaren had been giving many impulses for technical developments since the dawn of the age of Aquarius in the mid-nineteenth century. As far as German is concerned, you are right that they had worked for generations if not millennia to keep that alive, and it is surely significant that the printing press was developed in Germany 500 odd years ago.
Perhaps the best, if not only way, for the Plejaren to impulse against the Giza Intels without violating their non-intervention protocols would be to impulse towards reason and logical thinking instead of the superstitious mind control that was the GI modus operandi. The development of reason again took place of necessity in Europe and later America.
I see it as not race, but spiritual and language heritage that led to the Plejaren working on Europe and then America. The future prophet or herald and the German language had to be the main considerations and the technology that he would need for the mission to succeed.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Norm
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Post Number: 242
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 06:54 pm: |
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Does anyone know which CR that impules info was in? |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 655
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 07:37 pm: |
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its explained here why certain folks get impulsed tech
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/144,000
28. And such persons from the number of 144,000 – as well as various others at other times, but also in the number of 144,000 each – were also the ones whom we, as the authoritative inventors, researchers, physicians, technicians, computer scientists and scientists etc. of certain areas on Earth, taught about knowledge, insights and developments etc. in an apparatus-impulse hypnotic manner and without their knowledge, which was made possible for us by our directives.
29. Therefore, when we committed ourselves to this teaching activity, we were only allowed to take care of the distant descendants of the former immigrants of the Nokodemion descendant peoples who were in active life, but we were not allowed to take care of any pure terrestrial human beings who existed from the ground up.
and yea like Matt said the giza dudes and our mates had a tug a war
Salome
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Scott
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Post Number: 3185
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 07:31 am: |
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Hello,
Please try and stay on topic, Thank you |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2423
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2020 - 12:16 am: |
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Gee Kenneth for a second there the words 'tug of war' looked like 'jug of water'.
I must be having a Joe Rogan moment there without the psychedelics hehe.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2020 - 09:26 am: |
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Chris those points you made are very wise and valid.
I can't seem to recall the sources just yet but the 'impulsing' terrestrials by the Plejaren and/or GI and/ or ETs goes way back to other prophets.
As Joe's sources suggests.
You said...
Perhaps the best, if not only way, for the Plejaren to impulse against the Giza Intels without violating their non-intervention protocols would be to impulse towards reason and logical thinking instead of the superstitious mind control that was the GI modus operandi. The development of reason again took place of necessity in Europe and later America......
Throughout history even before the GIs became GIs the rulers like the psychopathic Arus the 1st- 11th, all the way to Kamagol all had to contend with the thorn on their side which were the plejaren and their ancestors dating back tens of thousands of years.
My suspicion is that telenotic electromagnetic mind control impulsation wasn't limited to the 700 odd leaders of recent but one that stretches back to ancient times even before the great Atlantic and Gobi wars where the hater elements filled with hate and trained in the art of war came back from the beta centauri to stir up conflict which ultimately ended in a colossal war of the worlds that nearly ended the world.
There were gaps in between the 7 years so the earth was without the prophets for many hundreds and then thousands of years.
In between those times I would imagine that the plejaren were busy trying to balance out the negatives committed by the GIs as one despot after another like ghengis Khan and so many other Hitlers of the world came into being.
I suspect that they received help by the GIs especially the Egyptian pharaoh who wanted to consoldate all religion into one.
So in order to maintain the integrity of the Nokodemjon's mission by all plejaren participants preventing religion from completely taking over earth, they would've definitely had to impulse the most suitable personalities to counteract the GI mind controlled terrestrial puppets.
A classic look of an earthling under the spell of telenosis would be the footage of the Heaven's gate leader Marshall Applewhite.
He looks absolutely gone as in so warped in the head to such an extent that his pupils have dilated beyond contraction as if someone was pointing a flashlight into his eyes.
So in all I agree when you state that its for the mission but not all prophets were whites or of German descent.
Matt lee |
Cpl
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2020 - 08:48 pm: |
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Quite so, Matt. I was under the impression we were discussing only recent technical developments. I guess I miss read your intention. I prefer to limit my speculations to that which is most likely so.
Thanks for the feedback.
Chris
Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2464
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 - 04:57 am: |
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This coronavirus pandemic had been sucking the oxygen out of the discourse for the greater part of this year that something as serious as this plague had practically disappeared into the black hole.
The super worst case scenario that Billy and the plejaren mentioned will meet its 10th anniversary come March next year and in that time enormous quantities of ionizing radiation has continued to leak into the ocean to this day.
As a result of this manmade disaster set off by human greed and natural disaster untold numbers of people have perished who through no fault of their own who met an early demise as a result of being poisoned by this toxic elemental radiation.
It appears that the true extent of this disaster will continue to be covered up as if nothing had ever happened but in the mean time the whole world is being irradiated with cesium through the air, the food chain and through the contamination of people's drinking water among so many other things.
I wonder to what extent our planet has been contaminated with radiation from the Fukushima nuclear power station disaster and how extensive the contamination is for each respective countries on this planet not to mention the death toll associated with this disaster.
If this disaster was described by Billy and the plejaren as a super worst case scenario then frankly the numerous problems associated with it must extend to countless future generations to come where millions of people on this planet in the course of many generations hereafter will succumb to cancer as a byproduct of this disaster and coverups by the Japanese government and TEPCO.
As far as I know there is nothing anyone can do to stop the radiation from leaking into the ocean at the moment at Fukushima nuclear power station.
Matt lee |
Hugo
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Post Number: 956
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 - 05:37 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I agree!
The world should come together to deal with the Fukushima disaster. Instead "saving face" is more important for the Japanese government and TEPCO! |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1535
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2020 - 01:35 am: |
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A world that seeks individual benefit at the cost of mutual benefit will never find true peace.
Yes, Hugo and Mat - I wholeheartedly do agree with you.
The world should have a say what happens with the nuclear waste from nuclear power plants.
The CNN reported at the end of October that there are great fears that Fukushima, due to running out of storage space, will do the unthinkable and release 1,230,000,000 litres of radioactive fluids into the ocean.
"Greenpeace commented that the polluted water, in addition to radioactive isotope tritium, contains radioactive isotope carbon-14, which is "major contributor to collective human radiation dose and has the potential to damage human DNA."
But as with pandemics so with radioactive pollution - some scientists' belittle the danger - "People have discharged carbon-14 into the sea over many years. It all comes down to how much is there, how much is dispersed, does it enter marine food chains and find its way back to people?" (Claire Corkhill / Univ. of Sheffield) *)
Well, Claire, it just so happens that this nuclear waste does not deteriorate so quickly and there are some 450 reactors that create what they cannot control and what pollutes our world more and more. Yes, radioactive water is a pressing concern - but not just for individual governments (as our MSM portray it) - it is a pressing concern for all mankind:
Why should other nations have to suffer for the grave danger that governments produce when they build nuclear power stations in their earthquake-prone countries?
Clearly, a global body like the UN should step in, create binding rules re. the establishment and maintenance of nuclear power plants and what to do with the nuclear waste they create.
Nuclear Waste Disposal is but one of the many issues that showcase the need for a strong global body (UN-like) that makes binding rules. It showcases as well that our overpopulating world is no longer a "free for all" world: All rulers on our planet should commence their governing by first swearing to work for the health and well-being of all mankind and beings on our planet.
A mind/world that allows for, seeks or promotes individual benefit at the cost of mutual benefit will never find true peace.
Salome, Bill
*) CNN (Oct 24, 2020) report headed
"Fukushima water release could change human DNA, Greenpeace warns" |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2466
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2020 - 06:22 am: |
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Hugo do you see a pattern here?
To borrow a saying from a religious text 'ask and ye shall receive'
There is definitely an indirect interaction going on with this forum and most likely others and the Plejaren.
My hunch is that the questions that are posed here during various discussions we have here and the topics discussed, the subsequent release of contact notes answers some of our queries as if the questions were already anticipated even before we asked them or discussed about it.
Although this hunch is not new I believe the indirect interaction has been going on more frequently nowadays than before.
I think more than ever our task is to keep the conversation alive and to keep it going.
To constantly strive for the truth in more details from the food for thought provided by the contact report conversations of Billy and the Plejaren not just for ourselves but for the record.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2020 - 11:24 am: |
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A mind/world that allows for, seeks or promotes individual benefit at the cost of mutual benefit will never find true peace.
So true so very true Bill
Selfishness and egoism combined must be the most toxic combination there is known to man as from it it tries to suck in and draw everything onto itself like a rogue blackhole that keeps on getting bigger until it destructively sucks in the whole universe onto itself.
You have got to let others suck too.
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2020 - 11:36 am: |
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Matt, I agree and disagree, we need to rely on our own efforts as well, because, remember 2029 the Ps are "officially" gone and the Ps must move on and consider other "tasks and responsibilities". BEAM will also die at some point and he will not be available. At some point, we will not have internet service due to various environmental events. Keep in mind, your consciousness allows you the opportunities to answer your own questions when you're "ready" to handle the truth. We have to "step" out on our own eventually because as you know, COVID is just the beginning. I'm thinking we'll witness the SF earthquake, the NW event, the continuous of the civil unrest which will spread out all over the world. We may also experience more dangers due to the previous president of USA's actions just as we are shocked by Nixon and Johnson. If you go back and re-read some of the contact notes, you'll find revelations and sought after questions and due to cumulative knowledge and learning due to the spiritual teaching (books.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Hugo
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2020 - 06:25 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I'm not sure if I see the same pattern you might do but I think there was a couple of times in the past recently where something was being discussed on the forum, or asked about, and then a contact report was released addressing it. Unsure if it was just a coincidence or if there was more to it but it would not surprise because we already know the Plejaren as well as some world powers monitor this forum. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2473
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| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2020 - 06:03 pm: |
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Good point Michelle
This is just own assumption but I think the plejaren have given us student of the teaching who needs absolutely no convincing of the authenticity of the Billy Meier contact case and of their existence some slack by loosely and quiet subtly interacting with us via this forum and others by putting out contact reports answering our questions and queries and shedding light on pertinent but unresolved facts that was in the back of our minds.
This is how it appeared to me but I could be wrong of course.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2474
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| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2020 - 06:23 pm: |
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Yeah Hugo
I'll just give you an example so that I don't sound deluional here.
These post were made way before the relevent CR became public.
Obviously I am not the only one whose statements and questions have been corroborated, answered and interactively backed up with subsequent facts via the contact note conversations but here it is.
Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2020 - 07:47 am: Edit Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
https://theyflyblog.com/2020/10/the-mysterious-tree-at-the-hinwil-ufo-demonstration/
THE MYSTERIOUS TREE at the Hinwil UFO Demonstration
By: Francisco Villate (Rhal Zahi) October 25, 2020
Thanks Zahi for this analysis report.
From reading this report I couldn't help but be compelled to ask what else and what other similar occasions were there that time travelling and real projection technology were used besides this UFO pendulum demonstration that we don't know about yet?
How many other photos and video footage from Billy contain a different time period whether in the future or the past that doesn't reflect the exact time that the photos were taken?
There were a number of occasions where in various times trees were eliminated by the Plejaren, then were these the occasions where the use of the words reversing or fast forwarding the time of the trees an indication that the Plejaren or Semjase more specifically did a real projection of the image of the tree and/or her beamship other than the pendulum demonstration like this tree with her beamship in front for example
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/Meier.htm
Besides the destroyed photos of San Francisco, are there any photos billy took which are in circulation right now that have images of the real future?
How many photos of the beamships taken by Billy are real projections and not the real mccoy?
Were the photos of 2 beamships taken by Billy inside another beamship real projections?
Obviously the whole point of these serendipitous and unexpected revelations year after year and sequential revelation after revelation at a specific point in time serves as a very important role in further adding credence to the authenticity and genuineness of the Billy Meier contact case that you would never find anywhere else in the world.
There are so many 'firsts' with this contact case that demands the would-be future and current investigators to step up their game by keep learning and growing concurrent with the evolution of this on going case so that they understand what the heck is actually going on.
Those who don't will never understand this case the way it should've been understood.
Matt lee
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Drawing some parallels from Jitchi's time travel back to the past I believe he was the first earth human being other than Billy to have time travelled ever since the mission started.
Could it possible that out of the 4 opportunities that Wendelle had to aboard the plejaren beamship at least one of them involved time travel which would make him the 3rd earthling to have ever time travelled in the last 900 odd years or at least after mohammad's death.
Could Wendelle have been taken to the future San Francisco after the earthquake?
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2508
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| | Posted on Monday, December 28, 2020 - 05:42 pm: |
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More corroboration backing up my claim that earlier ancient extraterrestrial civilisations had undertook massive geo-terraforming-engineering works in Australia especially Sydney New South Wales.
These colossal ancient civil engineering works by default adds further proof and evidence of claims made by Billy Meier of our ancient history.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1621
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| | Posted on Friday, March 26, 2021 - 10:24 pm: |
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Question To the Figu Forum,
What are your sentiments re. Bill Gates planned geoengineering (Harvard) project), which is, to seed the stratosphere with aerosols so as to reflect the sunlight away. “… the repercussions of solar geoengineering aren’t necessarily found in the material released, but in the unexpected effects of mixing ingredients into the stratosphere. This is why, SCoPEx says, most research has focused on an aerosol chemical already found in the stratosphere: sulfuric acid, which is a pollutant …”
From memory, there will be a small scale test (2 kg of chalk over 12 miles in the stratosphere) in summer. Computer models will then feed the changes in the atmosphere (the “how the dust particles interact with atmosphere”) into computer models so as to evaluate how a large scale spraying of chalk would affect the climate and life on our planet. Some critics fear the outcome could be disastrous…
I wonder:
Though it is not directly a "climate weapon as mentioned in CR 251" - and it may well be at a different time (see CR 251 below) - it could well be that by multiplying the small scale research results to find out what the pollution of the atmosphere surrounding our planet would be, there may be differences in the atmosphere and distortions which affect life on our planet adversely: The 2013 movie Snowpiercer comes to mind which turned earth into a lifeless ice ball.
What do you think of this controversial technology? Is it not another escape from the real and known issue - to reduce overpopulation?
Bill
Many articles e.g. Google for “Bill Gates wants spray millions of tons of chalk into the stratosphere”
(BBC FoxNews / Bigworldtale / Daily Mail etc.)
Relevant Excerpts From CR 251:
...This will be the time at which Albert Einstein's theory of relativity will also undergo various complementary innovations. Although in this time a religion will carry out great warlike acts, as a result of which a new, dangerous weapon will be developed and used, which is able to change the climate, so to speak a climate weapon...
Interleaved but not necessarily the same time:
"... In the time to come, the factor of finally recognizing and correcting the wrong in the calculation of the Pi number will also contribute to this..."
(From our previous discussions this may not refer to Harry Lear)
Before continuing with the description of the effects of the climate change weapon:
The new climate weapon will cause the whole earth to succumb to a very problematic climate change, because the total temperature will drop enormously and will therefore sink. Not only the land, but also the seas will freeze by man's madness.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1622
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| | Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2021 - 01:41 am: |
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NB
I should mention, though, that the present translation of the CR 251 segment on the FoM website (which deals with the time of Pi and the climate change weapon) may need to be revised.
German:
„Dies alles geht einher mit vielen Neuerungen und Entdeckungen in der Technik und in den Wissenschaften, denn das Jahr 1995 und die folgenden Jahre bringen ungeheuer viele Durchbrüche zur Veränderung der Zivilisation. Dazu wird in kommender Zeit auch der Faktor dessen beitragen, dass endlich das Falsche in der Berechnung der Pi-Zahl erkannt und behoben wird.“
Present Translation:
“All this goes along with many innovations and discoveries in technology and science, because the year 1995 and the following years bring tremendous breakthroughs to the change of civilization. In the time to come, the factor of finally recognizing and correcting the wrong in the calculation of the Pi number will also contribute to this.”
IMO - "the time to come" is not a precise enough translation. The Deepl Translation does express much more precisely what the German “dazu wird auch der Faktor dessen beitragen” says:
A more accurate translation:
“All this goes hand in hand with many innovations and discoveries in technology and the sciences, for the year 1995 and the following years will bring tremendous breakthroughs to change civilisation. The factor that will contribute to this in the coming time is that the wrong in the calculation of the Pi number will finally be recognised and corrected.”
So, perhaps, the time mentioned in the context of the climate change weapon and Pi, is the time after 1995, which indeed could be our time, i.e. the time when Harry Lear’s recognizes the wrong of Pi.
PS:
CF (via email) on whether spraying the atmosphere with pollutants could be the "climate weapon" in CR 251: "I don't know. Could be."
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Newinitiation
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I think it'll be fair to say when asked "who built the first pyramid in this universe", Nokodemjon as it could only have been through his genius brains that planetary gravity and electromagnetic stabiliser and electron based free flowing energy generator as the pyramids are could've been conceived and built on his watch.
What is a pyramid other than a device that harnesses the natural forces.
Matt lee |
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