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Lauste
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 06-2020
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2020 - 04:50 pm: | 
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Random thought, has anyone noticed the similarities between the two analogies of "Goblet" and "Grail"?
Perhaps "The Goblet of Truth" is "The Holy Grail"?
Not trying to bring religion into this but it makes me wonder if the lost holy grail could mean the lost spiritual teachings that was given to humanity long ago. When I see the cup or goblet on the physical book "The Goblet of Truth" I can't help but think "The Holy Grail".
We've found the holy grail guys, haha
Do not go Gentle into that Good Night.
Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light.
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Niko_sulonen
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2020 - 01:26 am: |
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Hello Lauste,
Well, you're not wrong per se. You can read about in contact report 469. I copied the relevant part from it:
Der eigentliche Grund für dieses Unternehmen bildete die keltische Philosophie, die in vielen Belangen Parallelen mit der Lehre Henochs aufwies, die wissenserweiternd, wirksamer und verbreitender umgesetzt werden sollte, um die Kelten vom Ausgearteten ihres barbarischen Tötens und Schlachtenführens abzubringen. Henochs Lehre, der erste auf der Erde verfasste Teil des <kelch>, wurde Merlin als eine Abschrift übergeben, die er auswendig lernte und sie dann in einem Kessel verschloss und versiegelte.
Dieser Kessel war kein Gefäss aus Gold, sondern aus Bronze und nur verziert mit einem kirschkerngrossen Rubin sowie mit drei kleinen Halbedelsteinen – Rosenquarz – in Form eines Dreiecks, in dessen Zentrum der Rubin angebracht war. Der 33 Zentimeter durchmessende Kessel diente dazu, das Wasser aus einer Quelle beim Gral aufzufangen. Der Gral selbst war ein heiliger Ort einer Quelle, in der Regel an einem Berg angeordnet, der den Kelten als Naturheiligtum galt und wo auch ein Druidenhain errichtet war, umgeben von Bäumen und anderen Pflanzen, wo die Druiden in inniger bewusstseinsmässiger Verflechtung mit dem Wasser, der Erde und den Pflanzen and über sowie mit der Unerschöpflichkeit des Lebens meditierten. Solche heilige Orte, die Gral genannt wurden, waren zu Meditationen für die Druiden bestimmt, und es gab sie an vielen Orten, und zwar überall, wo Druiden lebten and ihre Pflichten erfüllten.
Doch am Ort mit der Wasserquelle, wo auch Merlin meditierte, war an der Quelle ein Gefäss angebracht, das das Wasser auffing, und dieses Gefäss wurde <kessel> gennant und war an einem bestimmten Ort, und zwar dort, wo sich die göttliche <quelle> befand. Der Kessel, der an dieser Quelle stand, der <kessel>, wurde von Merlin, dem Druiden von Camelot, weggenommen und durch ein anderes Gefäss ersetzt, und zwar zum Zweck der Einsiegelung der Lehreabschrift Henochs, wonach der Kessel von ihm und allen Druiden <kessel> gennant wurde. Diesen Kessel übereichte Merlin seinem Schützling und Schüler Arthur im Alter von 16 Jahren anno Jahr 485, und zwar nachdem Merlin Artus und dessen <ritterschaft> eingehend in bezug auf Henochs Lehre unterwiesen und Arthur seine erste Schlacht gegen germanische Eindringlinge geführt hatte, die unter der Führung eines Häuptlings Aelle standen.
The real reason for this undertaking was the Celtic philosophy, which in many ways parallels the teachings of Henoch, whose wise, effective and widespread approach should be implemented to make the Celts give up their degenerated behavior of barbaric killings and fighting battles. Merlin received a copy of Henoch's teachings, being the first part of the “Goblet of Truth” written on Earth, memorized it and then locked and sealed it in a cauldron.
This cauldron was no vessel made of gold but of bronze and decorated with a ruby the size of a cherry, and three small semi-precious stones – rose quartz – were placed in the shape of a triangle, and in its center the ruby was attached. The 33-centimeter wide cauldron was meant to collect water from a spring at the grail. The grail itself was a sacred place of a spring, usually located on a mountain that the Celts considered a nature sanctuary, and where also a druid’s grove was erected that was surrounded by trees and other plants, where the druids meditated in deep consciousness-related interconnection with water, the earth and plants as well as with inexhaustibleness of life. These holy places, which have been called the grail, were intended as places of meditation for the druids. They were numerous and indeed existed wherever druids lived and fulfilled their obligations.
But at the place with the water source, where also Merlin meditated, a vessel was linked to the well, known as the “Cauldron of Abundance”, which captured the water located at the divine Ceridwen Spring. Merlin, the druid from Camelot, removed the “Cauldron of Abundance” from its place and replaced it with another vessel, because he put a copy of Henoch's teaching into the cauldron which he and all druids then called the “Cauldron of Life.” Merlin presented this cauldron to his protégé and pupil Arthur when he was 16 years old in year 485, after Merlin had thoroughly instructed Arthur and his “knighthood” in Henoch's teaching, and after Arthur had fought his first battle against Germanic invaders led by the chief Aelle.
This "Cauldron of Life" would then become to be known as the "Holy Grail" in Arthurian literature. It was described as a cup or a dish with miraculous powers of infinite abundance, eternal youth etc., and would later change to become Jesus's vessel from the Last Supper, by the hands of ignorant interpreters and translators having their own religious agendas, no doubt. The truth about the cauldron got buried and twisted, what seems to be the norm here on Earth.
Salome,
Niko
I recognize my path, which is the truth and living in accordance with it. I carry out my mission for life and for the fulfillment of life. I abide by the creational laws and recommendations, which reign in me as true love and wisdom.
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Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2020 - 12:09 pm: |
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Lauste,
You are right in your assumption. If you are interested, you can find more info on holy grail in Contact Report 469th |
Lauste
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 06-2020
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2020 - 12:21 pm: |
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So "the Holy Grail" goes back to "the Cauldron of Life". In essence, it's a cup or vessel containing The spiritual teachings of Henoch.
Now we have the completed spiritual teachings, including the wisdom from Henoch, in the form of "The Goblet of Truth". If I understand this correctly.
I was just fascinated that the only symbolism portrayed on the physical book cover of "The Goblet of Truth" and on one of the first pages, etc., in the same book is a cup, vessel, grail, goblet or whatever one would want to call it.
This "holy cup" that people are looking for nowadays is not really a cup, but the spiritual teachings as if I understand it correctly.
Thank you for the insights
Do not go Gentle into that Good Night.
Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1245
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2020 - 09:33 pm: |
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Lauste,
You, we human being are in essence, the Vessel that holds and protects the Spiritual Teaching.
For correctness, you want to say "Spiritual Teaching", not teachings, there is only one.
Symbols of: Spiritual Teaching; Goblet of the Truth; Clarity; Comprehension and Understanding
Kenneth |
Lauste
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 06-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2020 - 05:55 am: |
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Kenneth,
Thank you for your correction. I need to pay more attention to my words before posting. It can be difficult trying to articulate into words exactly what one is trying to say, English is my first language and a messy one nonetheless.
Do not go Gentle into that Good Night.
Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1245
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2020 - 11:52 am: |
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Hi Lauste,
No worries, many folks initially made the same misinterpretation/misunderstanding early on, including myself. With so many facets to the Spiritual Teaching it would be natural to think that the learning Instruction and interactions were stated in a plural form. You are doing great, much better than most people in the world.
Yes, communicating, or articulating thoughts into words online can be a challenge. It gets better with time, happy studying.
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2022 - 08:34 pm: |
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279) “You do not want to listen and act, but with childish defiance you demand fairness and forgiveness, even
though you do not know who shall give them to you; and if you assume that the Creation Universal Consciousness
shall give you fairness and forgiveness and you then intend to accept it in its greatness and truth, then you are on
an evil irrational way, because truly, you alone are responsible for the fairness and forgiveness, because in your
life you yourselves must give them to you, since you alone are responsible for all and everything for which you
need fairness and forgiveness.” (Goblet of the Truth, Chapter 28) |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1499
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2022 - 09:01 pm: |
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Phi_spiral post#191
Indeed! And whether we like it or not, we are lord and master of our life and destiny... or we should at least strive to make it so.
My entire life was a struggle full of hardship, poverty and disappointments because I was ignorant regarding the creational regulation.
From the Goblet Of The Truth I lifted myself up out of poverty, both of the effective love, knowledge and wisdom as well as of the financial and the boon.
I cannot encourage enough that everyone study the Goblet Of The Truth.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 735
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2022 - 06:51 am: |
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GOT Page 87 paragraph 79
If you turn yourselves away from The Truth, then consider that you will be overwhelmed by those causing terribleness.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 450
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2022 - 03:01 am: |
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Is it possible to purchase this book from within the United Kingdom? The shipping cost from Switzerland is the price of the book itself, and that's economy! I thought 60 CHF was extortionate, but 115.50 CHF is ridiculous. Who are these books for: an elite group of readers? No wonder Hendriks complains so much. You ain't never going to reach the greater global population with those prices. And that, ladies and gentleman, is why it's going to take 800 hundred years.
Can anyone sell me a copy of this book from within the United Kingdom? I will be more than happy to pay £60 for it? |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 456
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 05:35 am: |
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Hi, I just ordered this book, but after clicking "confirm order" button, the order seemed to go through without taking my card details. You can't have my card details because it's recently been renewed. Has this order gone through? |
Scott
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Post Number: 3678
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 08:46 am: |
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Joseph,
Who are your addressing your comments too? Where did you buy your copy from?
Thanks
Scott |
Scott
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Post Number: 3679
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 08:48 am: |
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Joseph,
Ddi you see my link where you can download the Goblet of Truth for free?
Scott |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 458
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 09:28 am: |
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Scott,
Yes, I saw the link. I actually do have a digital copy of the Goblet of Truth. But I don't enjoy reading digital books. I like having them for easy reference, but I prefer a hard copy.
I CAN afford the Goblet of Truth. It's just overpriced for a book, as I'm sure you would agree. I mean, who wants to pay £5 for a tub of butter right? I don't. But sometimes you have to, unless you can live without it.
I fear the Goblet of Truth is not something I can live without. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1628
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2022 - 02:54 pm: |
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The Goblet of Truth is a large, high-quality book, weighing almost five pounds.
Considering the actual costs of manufacture - and the incomparable contents of the book - it isn't at all "overpriced". |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 459
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 12:03 am: |
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Michael,
I didn't expect anything less from you. It's only natural to defend what you are invested in.
Contents of the book aside, maybe it isn't overpriced in terms of the costs of manufacture (that's hardly the buyer's fault). But it is expensive, and so is the shipping expensive, no matter how much you try to justify the cost; and I think most people would agree, even if you don't. Ever heard of the expression: "They saw you coming"?
Let's face it, the contents of the book is the only reason anyone who knows anything about Eduard Meier would end up buying it. It's the only reason that would ultimately compel me to buy it. If it wasn't for this one saving grace, who would spend 60 CHF plus 55 CHF shipping (and that's just to the UK) on just a book, regardless of its quality and weight? One might look elsewhere for a cheaper option. But then maybe it's manufactured in the US too. Maybe you didn't have to pay such an extortionate price.
So overpriced or not, it's a good thing it has a strong selling point for those of us in the know. Imagine what others must think who are none the wiser? |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 746
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 01:27 am: |
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GOT Is bigger than A4 size and thick
It feels so nice to read it, worth buying and if ww4 happens a good base for society to build on
IT Feels nice to hold it eheh.
If I read or use a device I hold my tablet or phone etc... at about33 degrees angle so my eyes feel comfortable.
Salome
Ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1629
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 09:30 am: |
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Joseph_emmanuel,
Your assessment is incorrect and you completely misunderstand and misrepresent my motivation and the basis for my statement.
I’m not “defending”, I’m…explaining. Everything manufactured has costs, such as the cost of the material of which its made, the cost of producing the finished product, the costs of transporting/shipping/storing the product, the costs of the selling/re-selling of the product.
Why is the word “fault” presented when we’re speaking about simple…facts?
Likewise, you say that I “try to justify the cost”. So you falsely imply that I agree the cost is unjustified and that people are suckered or conned into buying the book by me and others who sell it.
Then you state, "Let's face it, the contents of the book is the only reason anyone who knows anything about Eduard Meier would end up buying it.” As for looking "elsewhere for a cheaper option”, what on earth does that mean? A “cheaper option” of what, the truth?
The rest of your “reasoning” is equally mind-boggling as well.
Just so I can understand what your reference points for acquiring things may be:
Do you buy things that have contents you’re NOT interested in by people you either know NOTHING about or whose work you DON'T respect?
Are there any OTHER products for which people pay relatively large sums of money - relatively large in comparison to other items in the same category, i.e. books, cars, food, clothing, furniture, etc., etc. - because they VALUE the particular work, workmanship, quality, etc., of the author, manufacturer, producer, grower, etc.?
Have you ever prioritized buying things of quality because you wanted them to…last and endure, so you could read, use, re-use, continue to enjoy and benefit from them repeatedly?
Since you raise the point, which you could’ve found out before you proposed it, the book ISN’T manufactured in the US. And are you even remotely familiar with the ever-increasing costs of shipping, insurance, etc.?
And since you chose to use the word “extortionate”, and then reprise “overpriced” and finish with a repeated suggestion that people are conned, I suggest that you’ve made pathetically illogical, derisive, inaccurate, and disparaging comments, snide innuendoes and complaints that show an absolute lack of knowledge and understanding pertaining to the real-world costs of goods and the challenges and difficulties faced by those who produce and ultinmately provide them.
I am reminded of a Sufi story I read years ago:
One evening, Nasrudin was out near a sidewalk,
looking through the grass and bushes under the light of a lamp post.
A friend of his walked by and asked what Nasrudin was up to.
“I’m searching for my house keys,” said Nasrudin.
The friend offered to help, and the two spent a considerable amount of time continuing to search under the light of the lamp post.
Finally, the friend asked, “Where did you last have your keys?”
“Oh, back at the house,” replied Nasrudin.
Exasperated, the friend shouted, “Then why are we looking here?!”
Nasrudin plainly stated, “Because the light’s better here.” |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1500
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2022 - 01:35 pm: |
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When I first discovered the Goblet of the Truth, downloading it onto a tablet, I could not put it down for any period of time. Read it every day, it was the missing puzzle piece that I had been searching for. When finished reading the GOT, I became aware of the book. Personally, I had to have this book, and started reading it again. IMO, this is the best book on the planet.
Kenneth |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 461
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 01:07 am: |
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Michael,
Despite everything you say, it doesn't change the fact that the book is expensive, and that shipping is expensive. All the books being sold by FIGU are expensive, no matter how much explaining you do about the cost of manufacture and whatever other costs there are. We're living in times where the cost of living is increasing to a point where people are struggling to feed their families and pay their energy bills. Am I to excuse the supermarkets for their prices because of the cost of manufacture? No one justifies the times by saying, "Oh, yes, but . . ." unless they are living comfortably.
In answer to your question "have I ever prioritised buying things because I wanted them to last and endure", no, I haven't. And I don't say that proudly. My circumstances are different to yours. Much to my misfortune, I've never lived for the future.
Look, I don't want to go on about this. I think it's expensive, that's all there is to it. Your explaining isn't going to make me see the light even if I buy it and acknowledge its quality and size. Many books these days are printed in hardback and in paperback - the hardback generally being the more expensive copy. I struggle parting with just £25 for such a book. Where's the paperback of the Goblet of Truth so that one has a "cheaper option"?
Never mind. I don't care. I just hope for £123.50 it's teleported to me. |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 462
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 01:13 am: |
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Kenneth,
I've tried reading it that way - I've tried reading many books that way - but the light bothers my eyes. And besides, I prefer holding an actual book.
It is something I'd rather have physically. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1515
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2022 - 11:16 am: |
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Jospeh,
I understand what you're saying about the price. Yes, it is "costly". After my wife's passing from ill health, which during the span of time was a heavy burden and highly stressful for me. Every month was a number of visits to the hospital and/or doctor. Her health consistently getting worse until the day she just fell asleep and would not wake up. It's causing me tears as I write this.
I was so affected I actually considered suicide because my world seemed doomed.
The Goblet for me was way out of my ability to purchase. So I checked with a print shop and they offered a better deal... which to me at the time was like giving away my life savings.
Interestingly, that is exactly what made me devour and extract everything I could from the book. I placed a great deal of value because of what it cost me. The dividends have been and continue to be amazing and powerful. Knowing what I know now? It was the best investment I've ever made in myself.
Check with a local print shop and see how much it is for them to print it out for you. If you indeed can afford it, then support the folks at FIGU by ordering the book so their efforts can continue to improve lives and get people out of their rut, disappointments, failures and sufferings in life.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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