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    Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1504 Registered: 07-2009 |
We've also got more copies on the way from FIGU of the P-I: http://www.theyfly.com/shop1/main/home | ||
Savio Senior Member Post Number: 833 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Matt Lee I went through photos within both UFO Contact from the Pleiades (Volume II 1984) by Wendelle Stevens and Photo Inventarium (2014). There is no “string” or “scratches” within those photos. Salome Savio http://billybooks.org | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2502 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks Savio for that clarification. Now we know so Pat's advice is spot on so people should purchase the photo book from Michael if they are serious about analysing Billy's photos with accurate data. Cheers Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2503 Registered: 07-2005 |
Wow if true then this opens up another can of worms.   If the same tree was used for these separate demonstrations then the possibility that this tree was 'real projected' from the future for not just the pendulum demo but the other one is high. This would mean that today the tree that Semjase's beamship wrapped around back in 1975 might be standing at the very spot now. Matt lee | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1249 Registered: 04-2013 |
There is much hidden information in Billy’s photographs of the Plejaren Beamship’s that is still being discovered. A few of many examples: For instance, it was revealed a while back that this photo was taken of a Beamship and a miniscout from inside another Beamship .  Then it was recently discovered that some of Billy’s Beamship photos were taken with a tree that the Plejaren projected into the location of the photograph.  Recently read in the book “They Are Here”, page 59, “WCUFO among the Treetops”.  Where Billy was actually standing ON TOP of one Beamship about 40 metres (131.2 feet) above the ground while taking a picture of another Beamship in the treetops. Photo #838. Kenneth | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1318 Registered: 08-2010 |
Kenneth, One would be hard pressed to explain how BEAM was able to take a photograph from a position of 40 meters in the air at that location. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2504 Registered: 07-2005 |
Among the photos I've analysed ever since the thing called 'real projection' entered into my consciousness and have become a real concept inside my mind since the contact report pertaining to it came out one thing was certain in that if you add even just one new element to the case the entire landscape and context changes abruptly. This contact case just keeps evolving never seizing to amaze and requiring retroactive reassessment and review due to never ending new revelations over and over again. Nothing stands still nor does the picture stay static as new threads are woven again and again. Now in regards to photos of Quetzals WCbeamship (WCUFO) taken by Billy whilst standing on another beamship, what this reveals is that the Plejaren have changed. What the heck does this mean you may ask. Well it means they have adapted. Again you may ask what the heck does this supposed to mean. Well do you seriously think that the plejaren would allow Billy and the trees to come in harms way knowing that their beamships gave off harmful sun like radiation that burns everything at high temperatures. Semjase's demonstration precedes Quetzal's. This means one thing. They have reconfigured all their earthly operational beamships so that they can turn off its harmful radiation emitting function whenever its needed and that photo demonstrations for Billy no longer require 'real projections' of any kind whether from the future or the present. Looking at the photos of Quetzal's WCbeamship basically touching the trees you can deduce from it that it no longer poses any harm to organic lifeforms which would've made it possible for Billy to stand on it outside the ship. So basically any photo demonstration after Semjase's demonstrations which involves trees does not have any real projection component to it hence its safe to assume that you are getting the real beamship with the real mccoy trees. I could be wrong but this is the only deductive conclusions I can come up with from these specific set of data at present. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2505 Registered: 07-2005 |
Post 2503 'This would mean that today the tree that Semjase's beamship wrapped around back in 1975 might be standing at the very spot now'. Correction 'This would mean that today the tree that Semjase's beamship wrapped around back in 1975 might be standing at the very spot that it was being 'real projected' from'. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2507 Registered: 07-2005 |
There is an anomaly on this wedding cake beamship. Although the plejaren 7 step manufacturing process of exotic metals through cold fushion and other technical process where the cystalline properties are microscopically arranged uniformly is well beyond earthling's capabilities to understand and master at this juncture in our evolution, it is my understanding that since they are comprised of coarse matter material, at the elemental and atomic level, it wouldn't be all that different to the exotic metals produced here on earth such as high strength and high grade alloy steel (meaning that although there's a world of difference in terms of quality, strength, characteristics, purity, durability, composition, ductility, capability and so on nonetheless it is still made of atoms) This anomaly in the rim of Semjase's weddingcake beamship cannot be the result of vaccum and air press moulding process of the black garbage can lid that skeptic are so preoccupied with. The area around the joint seam looks to have been buffed and linished. The discolouration and the matte look compared to the whole beamship is characteristic of certain exotic grinding process better than as we do here on earth with a metabo, bosch or makita 5", 7" to 9" grinders with a buffing or polishing abrasive disc. Judging by the characteristic of the joint seem, it can never be the result of plastic moulding process therefore this feature on the photo is one other nail in the coffin evidence against the Skeptic's contention that Billy used the garbage can lid.      Matt lee | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1322 Registered: 08-2010 |
Matt A good friend of mine, a former lead scientist at Northrup Grumman and now an adjunct professor teaching the new generation of scientists, is one of a small number of people working on foglets (programmable matter). From some of the descriptions by BEAM when with Asket and later with Ptaah in the Great Spacer where they sat him down and placed a helmet over his head that molded itself to his head, we get a nice description of an advanced form of programmable matter. The cold fusion described by Marcel Vogel reveals yet another clue to my speculation and suspicions here. It would have been quite easy for the Plejaren to again demonstrate their sense of humor and play on skeptics, that they could have simply input into their CAD program and built themselves a beamship using every day surroundings of BEAM's home. So without committing a sinful act to be guilty of, the WCUFO does fall into the parameters of making it enough that the weak in consciousness can convince themselves it's a fake using the lid, while the more evolved consciousness can come to the correct conclusion through careful observation and analysis. I wouldn't put it past the Plejaren to simply showcase their sense of humor as they already have in the past. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2507 Registered: 07-2005 |
Spot on Eddie. I came to the same inevitable conclusion as you. You can understand where the ignorant Skeptic comes from at times especially if they encounter this kind of photo for the first time being blissfully unaware of the real context behind them. I still have a wicked laugh at times to myself at how the photo such as below would inevitably tie a gordian knot inside the Skeptic's minds and their incredulity at confronting supporters like myself telling them that its a real extraterrestrial craft.  Matt lee | ||
Lauste Member Post Number: 22 Registered: 06-2020 |
I have a question regarding the Plejaren and any other race for that matter with a lifespan longer than our own Earth human ones. The question is how long does it take for a life form with say a 1000 year lifespan for example to go from birth to adulthood concerning the growth and development of the body. In other words, humans of Earth take an average of say 18 years, does a Plejaren take 18 years for full bodily growth to be realized or does it take 180 years? I assume it takes 18 years because 180 would seem illogical, but then how does the aging process slow down from 18 to 1000 years of age? At what point does the de-aging gene take effect? I need a definitive answer. Thanks Do not go Gentle into that Good Night. Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1329 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Lauste, Your sense of logic is not failing you. I don't recall the specifics, so please check the Contact Reports. It was explained to BEAM, by Ptaah, that the Plejaren age just as we do up to a certain point from birth. Ptaah explained to BEAM that the average life span of the Plejaren is 350 years, if memory serves me. Through the use of some rejuvenation technology, some of them dedicate their lives to some work or effort and this technology allows them to remain youthful. Regrettably, I don't recall the CR it is explained in a conversation between BEAM and Ptaah. Perhaps others may recall where this conversation took place between BEAM and Ptaah. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Lauste Member Post Number: 23 Registered: 06-2020 |
Ok thank you, I didn't know their average age is 350 years, I assumed it was around 1000 years. I'll see if I can find out more information regarding this topic. Do not go Gentle into that Good Night. Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3248 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hello Lauste, I don't know if this is or is not a definitive answer, but normally the average lifespan of the Plejaren is 380 years. They have the technology to increase their life span from 1000-1400 years. I don't know if it can be translated into a ratio between earth people and the Plejaren, because through their technical means they can slow or halt the aging process to a point, which would not allow for a linear progression as I understand it. For additional explanations about this you can refer to Contact Report 750 | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1574 Registered: 04-2011 |
The Aging Process ... ... is caused by an aging acid (LEKATRON) - details see Semjase's explanation in CR 127:28-57: https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_127 The greatest mystery of our universe is the oneness of all things and beings within this universe. They all, including the universe itself, are little universes within a much larger universe. E.g. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/17839.html#POST87723 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15969.html#POST84429 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/17383.html#POST87818 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/17383.html#POST87916 With this oneness in mind: "Is - perhaps - Antimatter the Sand in the Hourglass of our Universe?" http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/17383.html#POST87581 NB The CR 127 text passage in question (after CR127:29) has now been changed into "Leider eben nicht" | ||
Lauste Member Post Number: 24 Registered: 06-2020 |
Thank you Scott, you are correct in that the average age is 380 years for a Plejaren, I've found it in the 750th Contact as you pointed out. They can extend their life up to 1500 years through a hydrodynamic regeneration converter available to every Plejaren and anything beyond that is basically unheard of for them. Some choose to extend their life in order to pursue tasks that require more time to fulfil, and others let their natural life span of around 380 Earth years run its coarse. Thanks Tat, the aging acid in our brains is definitely interesting, perhaps their hydrodynamic regeneration converter effects this brain acid in a positive way, thus extending life. Do not go Gentle into that Good Night. Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light. | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 9 Registered: 07-2019 |
Hello all, Honestly, I am not surprised about the basic Plejaren lifespan being 380 years. It was already hidden in plain sight in contact 251. The Plejaren and the Earth humans share a common ancestry, our gnome is very similar even with the malicious genetic mutations applied to the Earth humans in ancient times. When the right time comes, the general acceptance of genetic engineering in the public, will allow for reverse manipulation to take place. When that finally happens, it means that the Earth human defaults back to its original / basic life span. This is written in contact 251: 268. Das kann dann natürlich nicht gut gehen, so es dann eben kommen wird, wie es unweigerlich kommen muss, dass nämlich die Regierungen der Erde immer mehr durch die Raumfahrts-Einrichtung und die Wissenschaftler übergangen und benachteiligt werden, wodurch wieder einmal mehr Streitereien entstehen, die beste Voraussetzungen für einen neuerlichen Krieg liefern, und zwar nur etwa 15 Jahre, nachdem das Alterungsgen isoliert und neutralisiert und dadurch das biologische Altern des Menschen in grösstem Masse besiegt werden kann, wodurch die diesbezüglich frühere, bösartige Genmanipulation durch die Erzeuger-Herrscher endgültig wieder behoben werden wird. 268. Of course, this cannot go well, so it will come as it inevitably must come, namely that the governments of the earth are more and more bypassed and disadvantaged by the space facility and the scientists, whereby once again more quarrels arise, which provide the best conditions for a new war, only about 15 years after the aging gene can be isolated and neutralized and thus the biological aging of man can be defeated to the greatest extent, whereby the in this respect earlier, malicious genetic manipulation by the creator-overlords will finally be remedied again. You can read in above translation that this lifespan correction is a genetic one, basically, we get our ‘old’ lifespan back. 292.Probleme entstehen auch mit den Menschen selbst, denn ihre relative Unsterblichkeit resp. ihre Langlebigkeit wird zu jener Zeit bereits rund 350–450 Jahre an Lebensdauer betragen… 292.Problems also arise with the people themselves, because their relative immortality resp. their longevity will already amount to about 350-450 years of life span at that time.... You can read here that the lifespan obtain is very similar that those of the Plejaren. However it will not stop there. The next manipulation will increase our lifespan to about 400 years average…but the final manipulation will eclipse them all, our lifespan will be in the THOUSANDS of years. 336. Durch diese Rückmanipulierung wird der Mensch ein noch sehr viel höheres Alter erreichen, als dies durch frühere Eingriffe durch die irdischen Genwissenschaftler schon erreicht wird und wodurch das Durchschnittslebensalter der Erdenmenschen auf rund 400 Jahre ansteigt. 337. Das, was nun jedoch in neuer Form erreicht werden wird, bewegt sich dann in einer Lebensdauer des Menschen, die äusserst hoch anzusetzen und mit Tausenden von Jahren berechnet werden muss. 336. By means of this reverse-manipulation the human being will reach a much longer lifespan than this is already reached by earlier interventions by the earthly geneticists and by what the average age of life of the earth people rises to about 400 years. 337. However, what will now be achieved in a new form is then in a life span of the human, which must be set extremely high and calculated with thousands of years. I don’t exactly remember where it was written in the contact notes, but Ptaah explains that every civilization develops specifically its own interests, this means that they pursue certain areas of development more rigorously than other civilizations. Just like two physic students, they both study the same overal science, namely physics, but one physicist focusses on for example on quantum mechanics, the other on relativity, they are both physicists, but one has a better understanding of quantum mechanics than the other and the other Based on this example, its my assumption that the Earth humans will mostly use genetic engineering to enhance their lifespan, opposed to ‘hydrodynamic regeneration converter’ technology. It could be also the case that ‘hydrodynamic regeneration converter’ technology is out of reach and genetic engineering will be the only method More paths lead to Rome as they say. My 2 cents. Salome, Jacob | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 978 Registered: 04-2015 |
Jacob, Thanks! Reminds me of the Bafath and Sirius overlords that live for thousands of years. | ||
Lauste Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 06-2020 |
Very interesting Jacob! Seems like the typical Earth human thing to do being that we try to over reach and extend our lifetime beyond what it needs to be when 400 years is probably sufficient for our development contrary to thousands of years. We need to change our society drastically before attempting such a thing. I know I wouldn't want to work a 9-5 job for thousands of years haha, 400 years is enough for me, unless our society is much more evolved, then perhaps 1000 years but anything more is wasted I think. It's good to get to reincarnate and start your development fresh with the added spiritual wisdom and a renewed perspective on life. Do not go Gentle into that Good Night. Rage, Rage Against the Dying of the Light. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1033 Registered: 04-2015 |
I have emailed this question to Christian Frehner to ask Billy/Plejaren with help on this matter -. Hi Christian, I forgot where in the notes the Plejaren said in the future we would develop a safe and effective vaccine to treat the corona virus. Can you please ask Billy if he could ask the Plejaren to let us know what year in the future we would develop this vaccine so all the people following the Meier case will know that is the time when it is safe and effective to go get the vaccine? The reason I ask this is because there are many people like myself who are following the Meier case and who have listened to the warnings from the Plejaren about the dangers and ineffectiveness of today's vaccines and have chosen not to get it. It would be a shame if we develop a safe and effective vaccine in say for example 10 years time but many people following the Meier case do not go get that vaccine then because they still think and believe the vaccines are unsafe. Some of us could die if we didn't get that vaccine then because we heard no word from the Plejaren because they have stopped coming here because Billy has past away by then. Can you see what I am getting at here? The Plejaren have advised us not to get the vaccines and in a way left us Meier followers in the their hands to know/trust when it is safe/effective to go get it because as you know our leaders and pharmaceutical companies cannot be trusted to tell the truth so we won't know when that time comes that it is safe to get it. Salome Hugo | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3385 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hugo, I don't know if you will get an answer...Billy had a stroke and his health is not the best right now, I am not sure he is taking any questions, but we'll see | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1034 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott, That's bad news to hear about our dear prophet!  |
