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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 566
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 12:36 pm: | 
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I started meditation in my 20s and IMO, meditation is meditation. Yes, you can apply tools such as burning oil, burning incenses, playing music, sit in a certain position, etc., however, I read this book called "Meditation in every step by Thich Nhat Hanh" many many years ago,(great book by the way) before discovering BEAM material. This book was simple and easy, basically, you're aware of your every steps, touch, smell, feel, etc. I'm looking forward to the translation of BEAMs meditation book. That way, I can enhance what I've done and what I know.
Meditation will be the key to removing our severe case of "Ausartung", which we can all agree is a "mental affliction" involving "overdoing every tiny bit of our activities,behaviors, especially thinking etc" We have this need to be "perfect" and claim to seek peace, love, freedom, harmony, etc., yet our actions and behaviors prove otherwise. Some of us are faking our understanding of this material, meaning you cannot just cram all of this material into your brain via reading(storage banks) and "believe" it is not harmful. Or quote passages from BEAMs books and "believe" you understand. Experience is the great teacher in order to properly absorb this material without causing harm to your psyche. As well, it requires you to go out into your communities, (the good, bad or otherwise)and engage via your 7 senses, and basically "get a grip" on reality.
MsMichelle
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Hugo
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Post Number: 761
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 05:28 pm: |
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Ilovebilly,
Well done if that's what happened!
Btw, you may want to consider stopping eating croissants like I did. They are very unhealthy.
Ptaah:
Over time, trans fats consumed daily would inevitably lead to grave health problems, and this is especially true if a person is genetically predisposed to premature atherosclerosis. Already for decades, the Earth human beings have consumed far too great quantities of trans fat, particularly through fast-food products, through many processed foods, biscuits, pastries, croissants, chicken nuggets, cakes, french fries, croquettes, various chips and burgers, popcorn, various soft curd cheese products as well as other fatty products, that is to say, food made of fats.
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_544 |
Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 11:04 am: |
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I think I said this before, the key to reality is "To walk the walk and talk the talk" with constant study and feedback from our peers.
Maybe some of us should have been drafted and either died trying to survive the golden BB! It changes your perspective real fast.
There are some of you that believe that unconditional love or any love is only gained through trust and respect, which is truth in itself normal but fluctuates with each individual vibration of its core.
It took me a long long time to get that one down without puking all over myself. But I made strides slowly but surely without any acceptance whatsoever from anyone or anything!
Then there was BEAM and I began to wonder if the opportunity, if it was provided to me, would be a once and a lifetime offer in order to make all things better.
Now what do we do with the sceptics who step in and see our little soiree/put together and want to be a part of that?
I don't know but you decide.
I would give my best foot forward giving all the guidance and perspective with just plain good old common knowledge built on practical experience that I could give in order to meet each persons needs and wants of all walks of life. And all that I could apply and do to the best of my ability rather than just quibbling with one another over trivial Phraseology or information that could in fact, work as a study group.
I can not nor will I find myself able to judge or be judged.
Believe it or not we are a semi-open group trying to find its way back into the graces of the mother ship in Switzerland.
Lets do this together as a team not a bunch of individuals playing for king of the hill!
bronzedesk
Mat
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Scott
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Post Number: 2967
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 09:15 pm: |
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Hello,
Next year the book Einführung-in-die-Meditation will be released in English. The book will be published by the Australian Landesgruppe. The book has been translated and is proceeding through the final stages before publishing..... |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 568
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 06:34 am: |
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Hello Mat, you're right, walking the talking is important, as well as, getting grounded, getting a grip on reality, meaning, go outside and touch a tree, flowers, smell the air (if you can take the pollution based on your country), hear the sounds around you, etc. Using my senses is how I determined we have a problem, meaning, I felt it, with unexplained discomforts such as constant headaches, unpleasant noises, traffic congestion...as a young girl, I loved experiencing dusk, as the sun was setting and the sounds from birds, insects, etc. Now, I only hear traffic sounds, planes, loud music, even though, I now live in a rural area. It's much worse in a major city. It was clear, once I found BEAMs material, it's definitely an overpopulation crisis. On a daily basis, I'm aware of what my hands are doing and where my feet are walking
Some also want instant evolution, meaning, having all the benefits without putting in the work.
Thanks Scott for the update on the meditation book
MsMichelle
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 583
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 12:06 pm: |
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Gday Scott and Bronzedesk, i am a bit busy atm but will answer your questions very soon
Great news about Introduction to meditation being in book form, books are better for good reasons, thanyou Aussie team
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2096
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2019 - 07:44 pm: |
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Good on ya MsMichelle your childlike innocence is something that I mistook for something else.
There is much to learn from that that I didn't recognise at first but now I see.
I am guilty of judging too quickly and confining myself to a limited perception based on materialistic world view.
The statements you make are striking yet they are true if people really think about it.
There is no need to be offended by the statements you make nor the need to retort with righteous indignation.
Matt Lee |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 584
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2019 - 05:59 am: |
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Gday Scott
I bought Introduction to meditation about 2013 from figu Switzerland and translated the colour meditation to english, The ironic thing is when i really needed the colour meditation i automatically went to 499 and the part i needed was there and colour med a few pages or so after that, German was alien to me but i knew where to look, i automatically went to 499 on page 193. Then i translated from 499 onwards what was needed at the time.
i also read this partial translation
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/images/b/bc/UFO_-_Billy_Meier_-_Contact_-_Erra_to_Terra_-_Volume_6_-_Sep_1991.pdf
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/images/d/d2/UFO_-_Billy_Meier_-_Contact_-_Erra_to_Terra_-_Volume_7_-_January_1992.pdf
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/images/9/90/UFO_-_Billy_Meier_-_Contact_-_Erra_to_Terra_-_Volume_8_-_July_1992.pdf
As for one of my prev posts about Hall of records, its a little bit cryptic if thats ok atm mate, i cant just hand everything on a platter for good reasons, it will be understood at the right time by those who need it. I will explain more asap.
I will answer other comments asap, i am a bit busy.
I Just realised Introduction to meditation book has a symbol eh eh, you know me, i gota put my light on it asap, smiles ;-)
Looking forward to getting the whole book from figu au asap, i reckon it should be read Before and after GOT or cnotes, very powerful, helps lead the way in choices we make in study
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1072
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 12:44 pm: |
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Quick question for anyone. A friend that was recommended to get into meditation asked me a question which I’m not sure I know correct answer?
The question:
“When starting the meditation in a dimly lit room, sometimes using a candle, many strange thoughts or even pictures flash through the mind, difficult to control. When concentrating very hard to eliminate these flash thoughts, I woke up 20 to 30 minutes later from a deep sleep or meditative slumber, cannot recall anything during the slumber time; am I doing something wrong?”
Salome
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1189
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 06:32 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth,
It is difficult to answer this definitively when the person is not present and all one has is words, but on the surface it looks to me that the only thing done "wrong" is "concentrating very hard to eliminate these flash thoughts". In my 50 years of on and off meditations I would suggest not trying to control these images, if that is the "flash thoughts" but to just let them come and go or ignore them without paying special attention. If the image is important, the meditator will remember them afterwards and can ponder them at that time, afterwards. As these ones are not remembered it suggests to me that they are probably just visual workings of the psyche, somewhat like dreams which are also often forgotten upon waking and do not need recalling.
Instead of concentrating very hard the person could just be sure to relax, and as is often recommended, just lightly concentrate on the air passing into and out of the nostrils, as Billy has mentioned. Or the gentle rising and falling of the abdomen as one breathes. Or the touch of the body on the floor or chair on which one is sitting.
In my opinion and experience these simple exercises have a beneficial grounding effect and help maintain a mental balance throughout the mediation. Even when experiencing a union-with-all, or what has been called elsewhere the "mythic death" these forms of meditation are very helpful because in those experiences one might feel a form of personal annihilation -- although it is only the negative ego that goes -- but the sense of simple touch, of the air passing into and out of the nostrils, or the abdomen rising and falling, or of the body's touch on the chair, remains the same. This "same" feeling keeps the mentality and psyche grounded. At least that is the way I experience/d it.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1092
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 08:26 pm: |
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Kenneth, here are my two cents for your friend.
Eliminating the many thoughts that flash through the mind does not require concentrating. These thoughts are simply ignored and one returns to concentrating on the calm, peaceful and quiet mind.
Meditation means to focus; whether we're focusing on a candle, the sound of air entering & exiting the nostrils or, if simply focusing on the stillness and tranquility of a quiet mind.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 586
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2019 - 11:58 pm: |
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G'day Folks
From the 77 Meditations
75) In mir visualisiere ich die schöpferischen Gesetze und Gebote und fühle mich behütend in sie eingebettet.
75) Within me I visualise the creational laws and recommendations and feel myself protectively embedded in them.
Embed the 12 Recommendations and other laws you know seems like a good idea for many reasons.
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 587
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2019 - 02:14 am: |
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please leave this here as it pertains to protective meditations i will post soon
89. But always be confident, for if you are unswervingly and consciously committed to your mission, live your virtues, maintain your modesty and honesty, and preserve your place of true love within you, then all attacks of every kind will ultimately be for your benefit and success
89. Doch sei stets getrost, denn wenn du unbeirrbar und bewusst deiner Mission obliegst, deinen Tugenden lebst, deine Bescheidenheit und Ehrlichkeit bewahrst und der wahren Liebe ihren Platz in dir bewahrst, dann werden sich alle Angriffe jeder Art in letzter Weise zu deinem Nutzen und Erfolg gestalten.
777
If we dont lie its The Creations Law that our spirit will have infinite power.
Even time itself is not infinite, (i will talk about the 7 great times and what happens after that later, you will rejoice mate!) anyway the only thing i know of that actually has infinite power is The Creation and its Children!)
Billy would never lie for many reasons, when you do that you unleash unlimited power.
Its time we did.
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Antonio
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 09-2012
| | Posted on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 08:26 am: |
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Hi every one, I' have a question. For some months now I have been concentrating on the idea of having a spirit that is part of Creation, a part within me that is very ancient, eternal and indestructible and infinite; I'm focusing my thoughts on this idea, also during my daily routines; I noticed that after I concentrate on that idea, I feel a very strong sense of inner security, of self-confidence and awareness that expands and increases and fills me. I ask you: is it self-suggestion?
Peace
antonio |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1134
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 03, 2020 - 09:11 pm: |
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Hi Antonio,
Ultimately it is because the spirit and Creation is one.
Maybe read what Semjase *) told Billy in CR 10 and CR 11 (from CR11:62 on) about the human being that strives for / recognises the existence of his or her spirit.
Salome, Bill
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_010
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_011 |
Rubi
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 12:29 am: |
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Hello all,
My question today is regarding the Concentration Exercise using the candle as instructed in The Psyche and also found in this link: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Concentration#Concentration_Exercises
“After the 21st day there should be a daily practice of the concentration exercise lasting 10 to 15 minutes plus 15 minutes dreaming of what you would like to realise or of something that brings joy/pleasure.”
My questions is regarding clarification of the instruction regarding the practice after the 21st day: for the first 10-15mins can you choose to do “Sun”, “No Thoughts” or “Golden Rose”. Then move on to the next 15minutes where you do “Wishful Dream” or “something that brings joy/pleasure”?
After the 21st day:
10 to 15mins: Sun / No thoughts / Golden rose?
Plus 15 mins: Wishful dream?
Many thanks,
Rubi |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 596
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 03, 2020 - 02:28 am: |
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Gday Rubi
The beauty of meditation is you can do what you feel important
The way i see the meditation you refer to is do the longest meditation mentioned (15 minutes) followed by a wishful dream) once you are upto that level keep doing that
Hi Antonio
The Creation is based on thought,
so are we, study the meditations on figu.org
https://ca.figu.org/meditation.html
i will say more on both topics asap, read posts in this thread to gain more
Meditation reveals the most powerful forces, just live the teaching and remember you are a spirit, also all things are from cause and effect, what is your cause? Its The age of the waterman. Its easy to see the result.
more asap
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Felinity
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Monday, February 10, 2020 - 08:59 am: |
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Salome,
I thought that one of the reasons behind meditation was for us to find out these answers on our own? I've been wanting to do the meditation exercises for some time; not to really find answers to my questions, but as a tactic to control my thoughts/feelings.
The picture that I see of the Absolute Absolutum is of a heart. It really looks like a human heart to me, which draws me more to Truth and Love! |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 608
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 28, 2020 - 03:52 am: |
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The easy way to do symbols if its difficult for u to visualise:
Take a photo of the symbol with your phone.
Sit under a light and move the phone around until you can see the light (reflection) is on the symbol (e.g.the photo in your phone)
Then imagine in your head what you just saw, (imagine the light is your light on or next to the symbol) seeking knowledge,wisdom Love. (eyes can be open or closed) is best to be good at visualising with eyes open so u can get used to doing it anytime and symbolise everything.
A red rose or spirit symbols, animals, people, anything at all can be turned into a symbol.
Sometimes you will notice something but often its when going to sleep or later you just know things. Or nothing happens if the symbol/information is too heavy.
In Egypt its illegal to meditate at most of the sites now and they have security to stop u, if u go u can meditate with eyes open. eh eh or just picture the sites now.
Anybody know what a Djed is? (an Egyptian symbol) a disk is a hint.Its an old tradition our mates still do. VERY old Djed still exist on earth. We use our arms is another hint.
Salome
ilovebilly
p.s.
i havnt posted my protection meditations yet, its quite a few different aspects like mirrors, doors,sabers of the mind, hand signs (the peace hand sign is not benign)
eh eh, i think i will just do it in several posts,
Basically imagine your sun in your mind then light is around you and from the walls and the air, eyes.
Meditation makes it so you just know what to do, especially the candle with your light, sometimes i just visualise a candle in my mind if i am not home. (the twin candle u see in meditation)
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Markv
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2020 - 02:17 am: |
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Felinity, the 1st step to controlling your thoughts & feelings (Gefühlen) is to simply notice/observe them. The 2nd is to simply contemplate them logically - that is a form of meditation.
The feelings [Gefühlen] actually follow and are caused by the thoughts - not the other way around.
There are various additional techniques which can be useful, but they aren't necessarily required for accomplishing control of thoughts and feelings (Gefühlen).
Something else which may be of help to explain - from "The Way To Live" by Billy - page 442:
#490
Good advice for the meditation is that one should sit for a short time in complete relaxation and then have a quite short pause of about one half of a minute to a minute. Thereby, with everything which is done, attentiveness ought to be practiced in order not to lose one's own presence and its natural equanimity. After a short pause, a concentration should again follow in a sitting position; thus this is another meditative exercise. This form of meditation can naturally also be carried out in every meditation position other than just the sitting one, thus also in the standing or lying position. And when many such short meditation sittings are done, then the short pauses are able to impart much more reality and inspiration to the meditation. From the still inept practice of meditation, all the exercises take away any unnatural solemnity as well as any tiring tension, whereby a greater inner collecting and equanimity come about. Through the interaction of meditating and pausing, the border between everyday life and meditation dissolve, which has the consequence that one increasingly remains, without diversion, in the natural, pure essence. This leads to a state of everyday meditation which means that, from then on, the meditating one also no longer neglects the meditation in the everyday, even when the meditating one returns from the meditation to the everyday life. The meditation therefore becomes a state which also lasts in the everyday life, in a quite special form in which the human being lives his/her life completely consciously as well as also being influenced by the effects of the meditation.
(You'll have to forgive me for not spending the time to also type the original German)
Joshua
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Scott
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Post Number: 3045
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 05:28 pm: |
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The Intro to the Meditation contains this version of the Nokodemion Prayer which isn't well known:
My Spirit, I search for the way to you.
Mein Geist, ich suche den Weg zu dir.
I am filled with self-made worries,
Ich bin angefülit mit selbsterschaffenen Sorgen,
and I am tired and exhausted, and therefore I search
und ich bin müde und erschöpft, und so suche ich
for the way to you, in order to rest.
den Weg zu dir, um mich auszuruhen.
With all my errors and weakness I search the way for you.
Ich suche den Weg zu dir mit allen meinen Fehlern
und Schwächen.
With your help, I will form myself according to the laws and recommendations.
Mit deiner Hilfe will ich mich nach den Gesetzen und Geboten formen.
I am restless and unclean in my consciousness,
Ich bin in meinem Bewusstsein rastlos un unrein,
Help me eliminate the uncleanliness and the restlessness.
Hilf mir das Unreine und das Rastlose zu beseitigen.
Let me be in you and may you be in me.
Lass mich in dir sein und sei du in mir.
Let me work in you and may you work in me.
Lass mich in dir arbeiten und arbeite du in mir.
Salome
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Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 612
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 02:20 am: |
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Great Scott
Thanks Mate!
i try and say somethig like that to myself, Billy covers all the bases, thats one reason ilovebilly
;-)
i just sent it to lots of my friends on messenger, some i havnt mentioned anything about Billy, i got lots of thumbs up so far, i will expand on it with otherlinks on Spirit Teaching page.
A very old lady i have known all my life (and her husband died this week) just said: Thank you tjat is really calming and meaingful. You have come way above my expectations I thought of you Peter,.you have far more understanding of feelings than all of my friends and people that I know.
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1224
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 - 06:29 am: |
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That's a beautiful prayer, Scott. Thank you for posting it.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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