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Scott
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,
Here is mention of animals, which you may have spotted what appears to be a dog and perhaps the doghouse behind, although I am not sure the dog was posing or it was just a normal pix with normal surroundings which included Alena the extraterrestrial from the planet Sater...I don't think Christian was present during this photo session..

From Contact Report 78:

Billy:
Thank you, girl, that makes me very happy. But, now tell me why all the dogs here and also the chickens do not behave crazily, because usually they always do when there is a beamship nearby. Today, however, the animals behave completely normally, if I exclude the mother dog Anita. Why is that?

Menara:
34. The young dogs are very adorable. –

35. Your question has to be answered to the effect that my ship is not a beamship, but a flying apparatus with a compaction aggregate that can fly by densification and the highly compressed emission of atmospheric gases.

36. This does not agitate the animals, whereas with the beam ships which emit radiation and swinging waves, the animals get excited, become restless and even run away.
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Schantz
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Posted on Monday, August 02, 2021 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The dog looks clueless as to how much attention and speculation will be labradored towards it decades in the future.

Must have been a happy dog.

Most likely a Saint Bernard. A holy dog at the SSSC.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott do you know if Alana ever fired that gun for demonstration purposes because it seems quite odd that the dog is facing the very direction where Alana's gun is pointed at or it could just be a coincidence.

Just on this photo it appears that there are 3 anomalous objects accompanying Semjase's beamship perhap telemeter discs.

It also appears as if Semjase's beamship was in the process of materialization the instant Billy snapped the photo because as you can see from the photo the upper cupola of her ship looks distorted and not completely there.






Matt lee
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Matt, I wasn't there, not sure whether Alena fired the weapon or not?
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've noticed the two other objects/artifacts but don't know if they're craft.

It could be the sunlight that accounts for the appearance of the top of the ship.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Scott the question should've been have you ever come across any information in any of the contact notes or others suggesting, implying, stating, eluding to, demonstrating or proving that Alena fired Menara's 600 year old gun during the photo session with Billy?

Matt lee
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Matt,

Nothing that I recall and since this happened over 44 years ago and if it is not published in the Contact Reports, then the only persons that may know are Billy, Alena and Menara..
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Schantz
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Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

Curious to know why this past event is so important to you and why you keep posting photo after photo?

What significance does this have to do with what we are all now having to deal with?

Will finding a new beamship in the sky, or by now dead dogs in old photos, help with our current worsening condition in 2021?

If you're not familiar with the phrase "don't beat a dead horse" I suggest you look it up.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2021 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz its not just about the photo or the past, its really about the future.
If today was the future then it took the many yesterdays to arrive here and like a long unravelling string there is no gap in between but the connection from the past is, without a break up, still ongoing.
Puzzles are made of many pieces and the pieces were meant to be put together for a reason namely to see the whole complete picture.
The true genius is not really in the person who puts it together but the one who created the puzzle.
Let's give the plejaren and federation members more credit than you are giving them.
If after all these many decades we are still finding as yet undiscovered things hidden in plain sight then truly it speak of how super intelligent they are and frankly how stupid we earthlings are.


Will finding a new beamship in the sky, or by now dead dogs in old photos, help with our current worsening condition in 2021?


We earthlings were abundantly warned for so long yet didn't listen so what does finding things from old photos have anything to do or not do with the current worsening situation.

This link is in reference to Sfath's warnings we earthlings irresponsibly ignored, one among so many.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/17902.html?1593015350

Schantz more specifically


Discussionboard of FIGU » The Planet Earth » Religion/Relegeon as discussed in FIGU material » Archive through June 24, 2020

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Matt lee

(Message edited by scott on August 05, 2021)
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2021 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok thanks Michael

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think a particular never before picked up feature about Quetzal's wedding cake beamship will once and for all shut the skeptics up like phil langdon contentions and finally put a nail in the coffin against their argument that Billy used a small model made of garbage can lid and christmas ornaments to take these pictures.








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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

What are you referring to? Is this something invisible?

Wouldn't one image suffice?
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Schantz
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since we are back to beating dead horses and wearing masks all I have to say is hi yo silver away!
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Scott multiple images taken from different times and locations provide the right context needed and how its important in getting the point across.
Just focus on the position of the globes in relation to each other in these photos and then compare them with one another.
The 3.5m weddingcake beamship in front of the barn was taken in very quick succession by billy.
This means that those lower section globes rotated some degree very quickly or the top most section of the craft where the opening is rotated.
Either way it moved and the central point is if it did how could it be a small model that is glued together as what skeptics like phil langdon is accusing billy of doing.
Billy never made a model himself.
It was wendelle who commissioned it and brought them for demonstration purposes.
Lets see if phil langdon's copy cat effort of the WCUFO rotates on its axis.
I bet it doesn't because it never crossed his mind to do it as the plejaren are always many steps ahead.
So not only did this craft extend upwards but these photos prove that it has structurally rotated on its axis independent of other parts of the beamship.









Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2021 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its just an observation schants and not intended as an accusation but your tone, wicked sense of sarcastic humour and style reminds me of someone from what Michael has coined UFOIC or what I would describe as Unidentified Flying Object Financial Industrial Complex.
Every revelation by any supporter and friend of truth counts towards supporting the Meier contact case for now and the future that rarely a genuine student of the teaching would describe such effort as 'beating a dead horse' unless they actually don't welcome such a progress.
Its odd how you rarely provide any supporting effort but is just content to hide under the radar and throw a few quips here and there in your armchair.
So what's your agenda?
Are you truly in or are you truly outside?


Matt lee
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Colorado_dirk
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Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2021 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt,

What an incredible photo the first one is!!! Wow, the detail is just ...stunning. I don't have any words that come close to the reality. Couldn't find my reading glasses so had to zoom into the picture, hence find what follows here. Could be really good.

Do yourself this favour: Take your time looking this craft over by zooming in until you can't go further. Then spend about a good ten minutes and see what details you can pick up but don't read more just yet. Let your eyes and thoughts roam.

Do this first before reading on (now, don't look downwards nooo!) so that my commentary does not influence or taint what detail you may pick up that I didn't. Does that make sense? Then read on and write what you did find interesting or noteworthy please. Zoom and observe like you mean it.



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You will notice the reflections of two large structures on the spheres and also see the edge of the craft. I don't know the layout of SSSC, but one can clearly see the positioning of the structures behind the camera as the balls reflect an image, when scanning side to side. Wonderful detail which will let us, or someone with a mathematical approach perhaps, arrive at an approximate size of the spheres and craft?

The reason I was thinking this is that if tht were a model and they were tiny ornament spheres, the structures being reflected would be larger, no? Correct me if I'm wrong please, because what follows depends on this postulation.

Now, there should be a ratio (or some set of equations) of the size reflection, across the distance, to the size of the structures respectively, yes?

Could one prove the size of the craft (and distances, ie position inside/outside meaning respective to the triangle of the structures) by calculating the size of the spheres based on the measurements/distances of the known structures? The reflections are the key and I think it's a genius move to park this most wonderful yet awkward craft right there, leaving breadcrumbs down the line for calculations. Solve for the angle theta and the radius r. ..?
It's been way to long for me with math/trig/calculus to sort this.

For someone with a solid mathematical background and given the known variables, being the measurements of the two structures, the distances of the structures that comprise the triangle of structures, therefore calculate:
1) size of sphere
2) size of craft
3) position of craft respective to the triangle

Am I overreaching here? Should we ask someone onsite to get the measurements IF this is possible? I know it's not an easy task to dig up building plans or better yet use a fancy-pants laser measuring tool, but if the supposition is correct then it will be worthwhile to gather the known variables for someone mathematically talented here to plug them into equations to arrive at the sizes and position.

Thoughts? See you at the Sunday (last) meditation in a couple hours.

Cheers
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Schantz
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Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2021 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

My point is that you are trying to prove what has already been proven. If you want to continually obsess over old photos have at it.

If you are so inclined to prove it to Phil why not engage him directly. Personally I could give a rats tail what Phil thinks.

Glad you enjoy my humor.
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Schantz
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Posted on Monday, August 09, 2021 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dirk,

Welcome back to Earth!

Since you've been gone a new book has published by Chris and Rhal named "They Are Here".

If you need further information please contact Matt or Phil so the discussion can continue. Meanwhile the virus rages on and the noose keeps tightening for vaccine mandates from the liars in charge.

I can't think of a more important time to focus on those old beamship photos than now.

Buckle up or find your spot because your movement will be limited if you don't get the shot.

Cheers from the great Johnny Rivers song. SAM
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, August 09, 2021 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Dirk great set of logical questions there.
If my memory serves me correct as it has been a long time but the late Dr Deardorff has already worked on what you suggested.
Sames goes for Rhal Zahi where he has also written a fantastic report on it which you can find at theyflyblog.

Cheers
Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Monday, August 09, 2021 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Schantz

Its important to see the bigger picture here and understand the finer elements.
These findings from old photos are not end all be all as they represent just a fraction of material that make up the Meier's evidence but they are integral pieces of the jigsaw puzzle nontheless in exposing the lies of the liars out there who are preventing people from being able to access the truth with their irondome of disinformation

Every bit counts towards further strengthening the authenticity and the genuiness of the case as these hiding-in-plain-sight elements were meant to be found by somebody as they were set up that way by the plejaren and federation members.
If this was the case then why not me or somebody who can see and discover it.

Just because you have arrived and proven to yourself the authenticity and genuineness of the billy meier contact case doesn't mean that 99.9997% or roughly 9,899,970,000 of people should be denied their opportunity.
These discoveries of mine aren't exactly for the choir and think about it every one of the photos Billy took of the plejaren ship are many decades old.

There is no point arguing with lowbrow dumb as a kite skeptics like phil langdon who can't think let alone reason sensibly as no matter what you do and how much truth is presented they have already made up their minds.
I've had many a battles with them over the years and as Ptaah suggested there is no point arguing with them.

Just a suggestion here Schantz if for whatever reason dead horses beaten to the pulp is irksome why not turn the channel and watch Natgeo's history channel or something as the world doesn't revolve around you or me.
Got it.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the second time in as many years as 46 years we can finally see what its like inside a plejaren beamship.
I think the first one was a photo billy took in Guido Moosebrugger's book And Still they fly.





Matt lee
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

I am not sure I understand the reason for this post.

The image you posted was taken outside on February 28, 1975 (Ober-Balm) and can be found on Page 21 of the Photo-Inventarium Book and also page 7 of the photo gallery from the book “And Yet They Fly”…

The image you mentioned (inside a Plejaren beamship) from Guido’s book is on Page 5 (June 25, 1975) of the photo gallery also.

What do you mean “For the second time in as many years as 46 years we can finally see what its like inside a plejaren beamship.” ??

Have you found new images of being inside a Plejaren Beamship?

If you have I am sure FIGU would be interested in knowing about them?
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott its hidden in this photo.
When approaching this photo people must remember the time when due to the glare of the sunlight they were seeing a reflection of themselves looking at their TV as well as the images coming out of it.
So in effect you have double images being projected onto your eyes simultaneously.
Its also like looking at a double exposure photographs.

So what you see on this photo isn't just the beamship with the terrain in the background but you can also see the reflection coming off of the viewing screen which Billy happened to photograph.
The reflection it appears seems to be part of the interior of the beamship.

This photo was the trickiest of them all so far because when trying to view the details of the reflection within this photo I basically had to turn my smartphone in every conceivable angle possible from top to bottom left to right in an acute sharp angle.
For me the best angle came out to be from the bottom of the smartphone in a very sharp angle.
I could see details of a camera on the left eye of Billy with his left hand holding the camera.
Of course people really do have to think about that one lest they moronically protest that Billy doesn't have a left arm.
Anyway on the far right bottom of the photo from the viewers perspective you have 4 distinct rigid stones on a band like the ones the hippies sell at the market.
Now Billy always wears his silver watch so it mustn't be a band of stones unless he happened to have worn one at the time.

Other anomalous features are indicated.

You will have to use your zoom function generously.
You can also long press and download the photo and put it through the photo editing software and tinker with the function and filters.

Before people complain that you can't see anything or can't make out anything please look a little closer with intent and purpose.
It takes effort.








Matt lee

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