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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 541
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2019 - 03:51 pm: | 
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Hugo and others if interested, there were some recent changes involving posting of translations, therefore, some I'm sure are adjusting to those changes (either via acceptance or whining or complaining). At the same time, we're in for some turbulent times, therefore, if we're not preparing, planning, contemplating, practicing what we preach, walking the talk, studying, researching,learning,comprehending, to say the least, we are setting ourselves up for unnecessary hardships especially since we have all the information(books,contact notes,etc) at our fingertips. We have 10 years until the P's and possibly BEAM move on, so IMO, let's progress and strengthen our psyches by ridding ourselves of religious delusions and obsessions with politics and being honest about our intentions and build and develop our consciousness.
MsMichelle
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 732
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2019 - 07:50 pm: |
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Msmichelle, yes I totally agree with all that!
But preparing can't be just about studying and implementing the spiritual teachings. There must be preparing of things like of stocking up on foods, finances, getting rid of toxic friends that would leech of you because they haven't prepared, ect. It would be nice to discuss with others here to see how they are preparing but there are no sections here related to that topic. Do you mind if I can discuss with you some things on this topic off the forum? But I don't want to put my email address here for world to see. |
Jokubas_stalmokas
Member
Post Number: 77
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2020 - 10:38 pm: |
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Hi Scott,
I would like one pdf copy of peace symbol please. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3021
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2020 - 05:50 am: |
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Jokubas,
I will send them to the email address your provided in your profile.
Regards
Scott |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 41
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 - 02:12 am: |
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Request for CR756 translator to look at the following paragraph:
German:
Und dies wird künftig die Erdenmenschheit unweigerlich tun, und zwar, weil sie infolge Überzüchtung des logischen Denkens verlustig geht und folglich dadurch der Dummheit verfällt und sich damit u.U. den Tod einhandelt.
English:
And this is what Earth human beings will inevitably do in the future, because they will lose out as a result of the over-breeding of logical thinking, and will consequently fall into stupidity, which could lead to death.
Suggestion:
And this is what Earth human beings will inevitably do in the future, because they will lose out as a result of the excessive resource optimization and will consequently fall into stupidity, which could lead to death.
Explanation:
The BEAM material encourages logical thinking so that over-breeding of logical thinking or excessive logical thinking can not be the source of a problem.
However, excessive resource optimization to address short-term needs can be a problem in the long-term. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1509
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 - 01:19 pm: |
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While I think that the most accurate translations are important, I absolutely detest second guessing and inserting jargon that isn't anywhere included like:
"excessive resource optimization"
Maybe studying the spiritual teaching and the Contact Reports in greater detail will be helpful.
Translate don't re-write. The word...RELIGION comes to mind. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3244
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 - 04:49 pm: |
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I think the sentence is closer to this:
"And this will inevitably happen to earth mankind in the future, namely because it loses logical thinking due to overbreeding and consequently falls into stupidity and possibly meets with death."
The closest German expression of the term "Excessive Resource Optimization" would be "Übermäßige Ressourcenoptimierung" which is not in the original German written text. |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 - 09:57 pm: |
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Still not clear on:
"because they will lose out as a result of the over-breeding of logical thinking" |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 05, 2021 - 10:21 pm: |
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Using Google Translate,
"Und dies wird künftig die Erdenmenschheit unweigerlich tun, und zwar, weil sie infolge Überzüchtung des logischen Denkens verlustig geht und folglich dadurch der Dummheit verfällt und sich damit u.U. den Tod einhandelt. "
translates to:
And this will inevitably be done by earthly mankind in the future, because as a result of overdevelopment of logical thinking they lose their ability to think and consequently fall into stupidity and thus, under certain circumstances, become stupid. bargain for death.
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Please explain how over-development of logical thinking leads to stupidity and thus, under certain circumstances, become stupid. bargain for death.
When anyone studies logic, a complex statement can be reduced only so much and no more.
Real life will reflect the results of one's actions that are based on one's thoughts and the results can be assessed and serve as a test allowing refinement of one's thinking and actions... |
Patm
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Post Number: 858
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2021 - 09:54 am: |
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My translation of this excerpt:
Und dies wird künftig die Erdenmenschheit unweigerlich tun, und zwar, weil sie infolge Überzüchtung des logischen Denkens verlustig geht und folglich dadurch der Dummheit verfällt und sich damit u.U. den Tod einhandelt.
And this the Earth's humankind inevitably will do in the future, and indeed, because they lose (forfeit) the logical thinking due to overdevelopment and consequently thereby fall prey to the foolishness and therewith possibly incur the death.
PatM |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1556
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 06:13 am: |
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“Überzüchtung”
Hm.
The meaning of the German word “Züchtung / Zucht” compares with the English word “breeding”:
Main meaning:
the mating and production of animal offspring
Second meaning:
the goodness (good manners and attitudes) that come from being strictly educated to a code of ethics
“Überzüchtung” then, expresses an excess of “Züchtung/Zucht” that often point to a degeneration:
Main meaning: excessive mating / excessive production of offspring
- Congenital affliction caused by “overbreeding” (excessive breeding) made the newborn foal very shaky.
- Overbreeding in German shepherds causes blindness and debilitating hip and heart problems.
- They are racehorses that have been overbred; they're the fastest horses on the track, but their legs snap.
- Government researchers overbred chimpanzees at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic
Lesser meaning: (excessive) sophistication that becomes monstruous/overdone/artificial
- We have seen versions of this refined, overbred malcontent in The English Patient
- The overbred curatorial intelligence that has often haunted the halls of the Museum of Modern Art
- Many of his sendups feel more mean than funny – overall an overbred parody of borzoi…
- Those overbred males and females they call “society men” and “society women” …
So, re. translating “infolge Überzüchtung des logischen Denkens verlustig geht”
it could, indeed be translated as Scott:
“ (because mankind may) lose logical thinking due to over-breeding ...”
(the greater the no of people the less their logical thinking)
or similar to Pat’s
“(because mankind may) forfeit logical thinking due to [their logical thinking] becoming too artificial [monstrous] ..."
(in future times the logical thinking of humans loses more and more of its substance)
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Patm
Member
Post Number: 859
Registered: 07-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 08:58 am: |
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Agreed 'Überzüchtung' should be translated as over-breeding.
PatM |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 09:23 pm: |
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@PatM,
Your translation is much better that what is currently there (thanks):
And this the Earth's humankind inevitably will do in the future, and indeed, because they lose (forfeit) the logical thinking due to overdevelopment and consequently thereby fall prey to the foolishness and therewith possibly incur the death.
Compare with what is currently there:
And this is what Earth human beings will inevitably do in the future, because they will lose out as a result of the over-breeding of logical thinking, and will consequently fall into stupidity, which could lead to death. |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2021 - 09:31 pm: |
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Yes, "over-breeding" is more clear than "over-development" |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 977
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2021 - 05:39 pm: |
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NormS, well done on being mostly responsible for getting the "Corona Virus Pandemic" section closed down because of all your comments/links to dumb people who play down this virus or even claim it is a hoax like you think it is. (no one here probably looked at those links coz everyone here likely knows the virus is real) But now we all get unfairly punished for your nonsense posts there. This should never have happened. The mods should have stopped all your nonsense posts from going through there. |
Kiwiseeker
Member
Post Number: 218
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2021 - 09:38 pm: |
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I must say that I am rather disgruntled about the "Corona Virus Pandemic" section being closed. What has been important for some time are the vaccines which are being rolled-out worldwide and which are causing much misery & many deaths. Ptaah & Billy have given some excellent information about these vaccines, but so too have many credible doctors & scientists. In New Zealand I have been trying to wake up the politicians & medical "experts", with little success, if any. Covid-19 is bad enough, but even worse seems to be the "experimental gene-editing injections" & the use of masks, PCR tests & lockdowns to control the public which has yet to be mentioned by Ptaah/Billy.
Still, I will continue to try & make a difference, even though few people listen to my advice & soak up government propaganda.
Charles
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1308
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 12:44 am: |
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Charles
Charles,
Yes, the Plejaren and Billy provided the FIGU folks and the world with valuable information regarding the Corona virus, vaccines, and the origins of the virus and what the untested vaccines may do to recipients. It was also pointed out that human beings were used as Ghani Pigs for lack of proper testing. No more could be said without repeating themselves.
It is also important that Earthlings make their own decision on whether to get a vaccine shot or not based on the information given. Neither the Plejaren nor Billy will tell us when to get the shots or what vaccine to avoid or use. Due to the entire political situation, would not be surprised if there is information that could not be told at this time.
Kenneth |
Bianca
Member
Post Number: 28
Registered: 06-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 01:04 am: |
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I would like to see the corona virus section open again as long as it does not become a 'football' game of accusations etc.
That said, I am all in favour of wearing masks just because I know that I am protected from the breath of humans who sneeze, or cough and the droplets fly and spread in the air for up to 15 meters when it is windy. I have noticed how hardly any persons around where I live have had the flu this year including me. What a fantastic outcome, the pharma is no doubt unhappy about low profits but I am satisfied. Yes, wearing the masks is a hindrance but when I know that I am being protected somewhat, then I won't complain about it even though my glasses fog up sometimes.
On our website as you all know, there are monthly updates about the corona virus and maybe many don't take the time to read every hard worked translation because it is often repeated and repeated as we know that Billy likes to do, however with persistence there is the good information that should be heeded including the wearing of masks. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3327
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 08:18 am: |
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Hello,
This ia a quote from Christian back in January:
"I think we should close the Corona Virus Pandemic section.
I don't see any need to discuss/publish all this speculation. There's plenty of valuable information about the pandemic available on our website, and anyone is free to decide whether or not to follow the advice. Actually those who are reading Ptaah's information are on a high level of reality and knowledge."
(Message edited by Scott on June 20, 2021) |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 09:19 am: |
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I do understand you, Charles.
Maybe there is no interest or no place on this Forum. But there definitely is a need to discuss, to evaluate or reject the measures/ideas of our politicians and the scientists they employ:
The spread of the truth we receive is a part of our mission.
Bill
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1309
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 10:52 am: |
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Bill,
You bring up a valid point regarding discussions to, “…evaluate or reject the measures/ideas of our politicians and the scientists they employ:”. As long as it does not get political.
Scott’s statement, “…those who are reading Ptaah's information are on a high level of reality and knowledge." I wholeheartedly agree with this previously said expression.
Scott, Christian,
After some thought, is there a possibility to open a “new” Corona Virus section, example; Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) where Forum members can discuss amongst ourselves, the high level of knowledge that we have received. There currently is no authorized place to discuss this information on a continuing basis? As we know from the Plejaren and Billy, this is not over yet.
I agree with Bianca, “…as long as it does not become a 'football' game of accusations etc.”, with politics aside. In other words, no politics. This could be valuable information to understand what is truthfully happening around the world from other FIGU and Forum members.
Salome
Kenneth |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1534
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 03:01 pm: |
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Bill,
Regarding "The spread of the truth we receive is a part of our mission."
I couldn't agree more and I've found it a bit disconcerting that, with the exception of maybe a handful of members here, while talking amongst ourselves produces some very insightful information, without contributing to an outreach to the outside world, we may be falling short of the potential success in spreading th truth we could have.
In fact, many times I've notified this forum of various efforts, including our petition to SETI, etc.,but - again - with little response, or participation.
This isn't to be confused with "missionizing". At this time in particular, there is no topic more in the news than UFOs, extraterrestrials, etc., perhaps other than COVID. So, if not now...WHEN?
Any people interested in assisting can contact me.
Salome. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3328
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 03:24 pm: |
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Hello,
I have asked Christian to review these posts and if he can respond.
Salome
Scott |
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