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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1595
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 19, 2021 - 01:17 am: | 
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"First Far to the South (South Africa) then far to the East (Japan) ..."
It is always astonishing how Billy predicts events that then happen soon after his predictions.
E.g. in CR 762 he predicted:
“The same is true of the new mutations that will quickly follow the first new mutation that becomes known in other countries far to the south and then to the east of the earth in a short time…”
After reading this I always wondered where this new mutant in the Far East would be.
Today’s news gave the answer:
“Japan (which has reported 151 cases of the UK, Brazil and South African virus) has confirmed a new variant of COVID-19 (with the E484K mutation on the spike protein), in 91 cases in the Kanto area of eastern Japan and in two cases at airports
Billy in CR 762:
Gleichermassen ergibt sich das dann auch mit weiter neu folgenden Mutationen, die schnell der ersten neuen bekanntwerdenden Mutation in anderen Ländern weit im Süden und dann im Osten der Erde in kurzer Zeit folgen werden.} |
Jacob
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 07-2019
| | Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2021 - 03:25 pm: |
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Continued from the overpopulation discussion:
Spaceflight developmental path (this post is largely based on assumptions on the FIGU material, I could be totally wrong)
First (21st - 23rd century)
This will be the end of the primitive and outdated rocket technology, enable Earth humankind to explore the solar system with relative short travel times. It is mentioned that the secret of gravitation will be lifted short after the ability to grow human organs for transplants.
Contact 251 (same source as before)
235. Das aber bedeutet nicht, dass die Wissenschaft brachliegt, ganz im Gegenteil; denn sie wird das Geheimnis der Gravitation, der Schwerkraft, lüften und dadurch Raum und Masse in gewissen Formen zu beherrschen beginnen.
236. Nur kurz vor dieser Zeit wird es dem Erdenmenschen auch möglich, menschliche Organe für Organverpflanzungen sozusagen 'nachwachsen' zu lassen, und zwar abgestimmt für den betreffenden Körper, der des Organes bedarf, infolgedessen die Gefahr der Abstossungsreaktion gebannt wird.
English translation:
235. This does not mean, however, that science will lie fallow, quite the contrary; for it will reveal the secret of gravitation, of gravity, and thereby begin to control space and mass in certain forms.
236. Only shortly before this time it will also be possible for man on earth to 'regrow', so to speak, human organs for organ transplants, and this coordinated for the body in question which needs the organ, as a result of which the danger of the rejection reaction will be banished.
Corroboration:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/organs-made-to-order-863675/
“Much of the work is experimental and hasn’t yet been tested in human patients, but Atala has implanted laboratory-grown bladders into more than two dozen children and young adults born with defective bladders that don’t empty properly, a condition that can cause kidney damage. The bladders were the first lab-generated human organs implanted in people. If they continue to perform well in clinical tests, the treatment may become standard not only for birth defects of the bladder but also for bladder cancer and other conditions.”
Second (23rd - 24th century) (contact 64)
Beyond the solar-system is very far behind Pluto / Kuiper-belt, etc. This will be most likely with warp-like propulsion which is seriously studied at present day. The so-called Alcubierre drive. One can find serious websites like Popular Mechanics, Alcubierre drive / metric. Real warp. It requires tremendous amounts of energy, well beyond the scope of what we can generate for a relative small object like a space ship.
This kind of space flight manipulates space and mass, allows for modest interstellar space flight within our own space-time dimension.
It will not be possible to break into the space-time dimension where the Plejaren live.
In our galatic neighborhood we will find habitable planets to settle.
Contact 64:
51. Die Erkenntnis daraus ist die, dass die angenommene Entwicklung hinsichtlich einer reellen Aufklärung nach rein äusseren verfälschten Fakten nur eine Täuschung war, und es folglich unsererseits eine neuerliche Wahrscheinlichkeitsberechnung ergibt, dass der Erdenmensch vermutlich erst in ca. 200 bis 300 oder noch mehr Jahren so weit sein wird, die Erkenntnis der Existenz ausserirdischer menschlicher Lebensformen zu erlangen, wenn er selbst den Raum im aussersolaren Bereich zu bereisen beginnt im bemannten Raumflug mit hochentwickelter Technik oder wenn ausserirdische Intelligenzen in offizieller Form auf der Erde in Erscheinung treten.
51. The realisation from this is that the assumed development, with regard to a real elucidation, was only a deception according to purely outwardly falsified facts, and that it consequently results in a new probability calculation on our part that the terrestrial human will presumably only be far enough along in approx. 200 to 300 or even more years, to attain the knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial human life-forms, when they begin to travel into space beyond the solar system in manned space flight with highly developed technology, or if extraterrestrial intelligences appear in official form on the Earth.
Third (28th century and beyond) (contact 251)
Around the 28th century, Earth humans will become capable of time-travel and interstellar, intergalactic and universal space-flight, however it still does not mean the Earth human will be capable of breaking into the space-time continuum of the Plejaren.
318. Also beginnen die Wissenschaftler Höchstleistungen zu erbringen – und finden dabei die Fehlberechnungen, die der Pi-Zahl zugrundeliegen.
319. Durch die Behebung und nunmehrige Richtigberechnung der Pi-Zahl werden die Wissenschaftler und die ungemein hochentwickelte Technik fähig, unvorstellbare Energien für die Erde nutzbar zu machen, und zwar dadurch, indem es ihnen möglich wird, von Schwarzen Löchern im weiten Gebiet der Milchstrasse Energien abzuleiten und für die Erde nutzbar zu machen.
320. Noch wird es aber zu dieser Zeit den Wissenschaftlern verwehrt sein, bis in das Zentrum unserer Galaxie vorzustossen, um auch das dortige Schwarze Loch anzuzapfen.
321. Dies aber wird vorderhand auch nicht nötig sein, denn die umliegenden Objekte zur Energiegewinnung sind vollumfänglich ausreichend, um der Erde dienlich zu sein.
322. Diese neue Energiegewinnung sowie die Art der Energie selbst ermöglichen es fortan dem Erdenmenschen, neue Raumreiseformen zu entwickeln, in deren Folge und Erweiterung auch jener Reise- und Beförderungsfaktor Wirklichkeit wird, der im Jahre 1995 und alle Zeit zuvor sowie noch lange Zeit in die Zukunft als Phantasterei und Unmöglichkeit bezeichnet wird, nämlich die Zeitreise.
323. Diese Erfindung wiederum ermöglicht es dem Menschen, in die Vergangenheit und in die Zukunft zu reisen sowie in Weiten des Universums, die bisher noch unmöglich waren.
318.So the scientists begin to perform maximum achievements - and find thereby the miscalculations which are the basis of the Pi number.
319.By the correction and now correct calculation of the Pi number the scientists and the immensely highly developed technology become able to make unimaginable energies usable for the earth, namely by it becoming possible for them to derive energies from black holes in the wide area of the Milky Way and to make them usable for the earth.
320. At this time, however, it will still be impossible for the scientists to advance into the center of our galaxy in order to tap into the black hole there.
321. But this will not be necessary for the time being, because the surrounding objects for the energy production are completely sufficient to be useful for the earth.
322. This new energy production as well as the kind of the energy itself make it possible from now on for the earth man to develop new space travel forms, in whose consequence and extension also that travel and transportation factor becomes reality which is called phantasmagoria and impossibility in the year 1995 and all time before as well as still long time into the future, namely the time travel.
323. This invention in turn makes it possible for man to travel into the past and into the future as well as into vastnesses of the universe which were impossible up to now.
There is already corroboration of these predictions, Steven Hawking, Roger Penrose, Columbia university already worked / work on theories to extract energy from black holes.
https://news.columbia.edu/energy-particles-magnetic-fields-black-holes
Quote “A new Columbia study indicates energy can be extracted from black holes through reconnection of magnetic field lines. A remarkable prediction of Einstein's theory of general relativity—the theory that connects space, time, and gravity—is that rotating black holes have enormous amounts of energy available to be tapped.”
It’s not all negative what lies ahead for us.} |
Hugo
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Post Number: 989
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2021 - 09:26 pm: |
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Jacob,
Thanks for posting that!
I find all of Contact Report 251 amazing to read and contemplate!
Finding the ability to grow human organs for transplants came just in time for all the organ damage the Corona virus will cause in people! |
Jacob
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 07-2019
| | Posted on Monday, February 22, 2021 - 02:18 am: |
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Hello Hugo,
I find contact 251 very interesting, its a puzzle meant for us to put the pieces together and stimulate development at the right time.
Personally I have an interest in the physics part, especially spaceflight, since I have become a physics student, it is something I want to specialize in.
I also find human organ regeneration / genetic manipulation and many other sciences very interesting, unfortunately, my lifespan is 100 years tops, so I have to make choices! 
I agree with you, hopefully it will be mainstream medicine soon, so a lot of people can be helped.
“The unexamined life is not worth living.” - Socrates
“Our life is what our thoughts make it.” - Marcus Aurelius
Salome,
Jacob
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1268
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, February 22, 2021 - 08:44 am: |
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Hi Jacob,
The first time I read Contact Report 251 was before I got involved in the Apophis Team Project Defense (A-Team) group, in trying to prove to various scientists, NASA, JPL and government officials that the Pi of 3.141592654… is incorrect and that the Pi of 3.144605511… is the correct calculation.
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As you stated and CR-251 states: Third (28th century and beyond) (contact 251)
“Around the 28th century, Earth humans will become capable of time-travel and interstellar, intergalactic and universal space-flight, …
318. So the scientists begin to perform maximum achievements - and find thereby the miscalculations which are the basis of the Pi number.
319. By the correction and now correct calculation of the Pi number the scientists and the immensely highly developed technology become able to make unimaginable energies usable for the earth, namely by it becoming possible for them to derive energies from black holes in the wide area of the Milky Way and to make them usable for the Earth.”
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For clarification, the 28th century begins on January 1, 2701 and ended on December 31, 2800. There could be a couple of ways to look at this.
FIRST: No matter what the Apophis Team does, the science community will not understand the true significance of the correct Pi calculation, in essence, the entire team is spinning their wheels for about 680 years.
SECOND: The work that the Apophis Team is doing could be laying some small steppingstones to discovering the true value of Pi.
As we all know in this forum, the Contact Reports are spot on. This could change the entire Apophis Asteroid (Red Meteor) concern. It may also mean that the Pi error of 0.003012857 is not the answer to preventing 99942 Apophis from striking the Earth?! The challenge is elsewhere.
Must ponder this for awhile...
Salome
Kenneth |
Jacob
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2019
| | Posted on Monday, February 22, 2021 - 12:13 pm: |
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Hi, Kenneth,
<sarcasm>Trying to prove scientists that they are using the false number pi for decades and that the correct number is pi is 3,144605511..... more or less aided by a Swiss farmer and his extraterrestrial and terrestrial friends is about as hard as convincing the mass of Earth humans that we have an overpopulated planet.</sarcasm>
I think the A-team does great work, but it's nearly impossible, it will take many hundreds of years before they would acknowledge the correct number of pi.
By the way, in my opinion a good thing, every development the Earth human makes is abused for evil and bad things as well, sometimes, used for good.
It would probably unlock secrets of nature and the universe, we are not ready for and should not have yet.
My post about space flight and especially it's time-frame is just an approximation, those dates could be sooner or later.
Usually the so-called intellectuals are the one with the most closed-off consciousness.
“The unexamined life is not worth living.” - Socrates
“Our life is what our thoughts make it.” - Marcus Aurelius
Salome,
Jacob
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Hugo
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Post Number: 990
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, February 22, 2021 - 03:35 pm: |
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Hi Jacob,
There is a Youtube channel that has put the entire Contact report 251 to speech. Often when I go to bed I put it running on my TV in my bedroom and just listen to it. I often find new understandings and things I missed before. It takes me a while to fall asleep, and after I do, listening to that report often causes me to have dreams to do with Sci-fi or with Meier. I really enjoy them!
Btw, aren't you the old "Jacob" in the archives who was a psychologist? If yes, may I asked why you ditched psychology to now become a physics student? Is it because you don't like dealing with people's psycho problems anymore? If yes I can understand that as I would consider being a psychologist as one of the worst jobs in the world where you have to listen to people's problems all day. I imagine people's negative vibrations would wear off on you too. Not good! |
Schantz
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Post Number: 217
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, February 22, 2021 - 11:31 pm: |
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Hugo,
Jacob makes clear who he is and who he was if you follow his posts. Subtle at times, which is loud and clear to me and must be important to him.
Msmichelle,
If you don't like tat/bills posts then don't read them. His rambling positivity outweighs your short criticizing negativity. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 786
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - 07:28 am: |
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Keep in mind kids, if we cannot take hits from each other, you'll be eaten alive from/by the rest of the population. We all must build strong personalities just as BEAM and take it, or go home and go to bed
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1602
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - 02:02 pm: |
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Thank you, Schantz.
Salome, Bill |
Jacob
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 07-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - 02:06 pm: |
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Hi, Hugo,
Yes I am the "old" Jacob. I studied to become a psychologist, but with everything in life, things change. I got the opportunity to really fulfill a childhood dream and that is to become a scientist, something I am actually realizing. Although the spiritual teaching is paramount important to me.
There are so many fields of knowledge I like, but as said before, the earth human body allows for about a century of life, which is way too short.
Also, it takes years to become a psychologist and requires a lot of time and dedication, and being close to 50, time is precious, so I made my choice not to pursue it any further.
Besides, I always was interested in hyperspace technology, advanced propulsion, space/time, astronomy.
I personally read contact 251 to learn, there are many subtle hints in this contact, about the future, impulses for development, but it also breathes a bit of hope from my perspective.
I usually read material the old school way, printed material, books, hardly from screens.
“The unexamined life is not worth living.” - Socrates
“Our life is what our thoughts make it.” - Marcus Aurelius
Salome,
Jacob
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Hugo
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Post Number: 993
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| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2021 - 06:56 pm: |
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Hi Jacob,
I really enjoyed reading all your old posts in the archives! And glad to see you posting again!
Good on you for going back to school at 50 to learn more!
I like the way you think! Good to be positive. Sometimes I think I am too pessimistic with outlook on things. |
Jacob
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 07-2019
| | Posted on Friday, February 26, 2021 - 10:26 am: |
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Hi Hugo,
I am glad to be of help.
Lots of inspiration lately, however with the desire to focus on the consciousness-related.
There is so much negativity going on that we need some neutral-positive input and food for thought.
“The unexamined life is not worth living.” - Socrates
“Our life is what our thoughts make it.” - Marcus Aurelius
Salome,
Jacob
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Norm
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Post Number: 265
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2021 - 07:38 am: |
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Billy and the Ps right again.
Scientists Discover Why Blood Type May Matter for COVID Infection
Search US News and World Report magazine website. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 995
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| | Posted on Friday, March 05, 2021 - 04:46 pm: |
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Norm,
Good find!
If I remember correctly the Plejaren did not go into detail on which blood group is most dangerous of it.
That article says the findings from laboratory study found that blood group A is the most attracted to it. So we need to know what blood group we are to realize where we stand against it. This is good information we needed! I think my blood group was B or O, but not A. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1630
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 05, 2021 - 06:17 am: |
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(In Reply to Matt’s idea of remote controlling asteroids.)
CR 251's Space Weapon ?
Thought-provoking idea, Matt.
It makes sense to remote-control an asteroid whose path may pose a danger to life on our planet. And wondered why the Plejaren never mentioned what you suggested.
But then I thought of Mu.
And this passage in CR 251…
“… But if man does not act against the fulfilment of prophecy, then a new and very destructive new weapon will find its perfection, which will cause devastating consequences at the next world war. This can also happen because the surveillance of Earth from space is criminally neglected.”
It made me hesitate. Because our world is so aggressively polarized that good, well-meant ideas which could greatly assist the safety of mankind, may end up doing the exact opposite, i.e., were being used to construct more terrible WMD.
I say so because your idea reminded me of one of Billy's prophecies in CR 251 (see below).
Salome, Bill
Billy in CR 251:
1. The highlighted CR 251 passage is very close to the start of Billy’s post-1995 prophecies \ predictions which would support that the events mentioned therein refer to our time.
2. The context of the highlighted prophecy further points to "an event of our time":
- 1 - Soon after a lung disease (may be Corona Virus)
- 2 - Danger of chemical weapons
- 3 – Excessive Mass Tourism
- 4 - Planning a space-flight to Mars
- 5 - Stockpiling the weapon arsenals
- 6 – Neglecting the surveillance of space (due to the Corona Virus Pandemic)
My translation may contain mistakes
193. But all this will not stop there, because another terrible plague and lung disease will break out among the people.
194 The longstanding and ever-present threat of chemical weapons will increase again, despite efforts to the contrary, as is the case with nuclear and biological weapons.
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198. Mass tourism takes on more and more powerful forms [increases immensely] and slowly but surely the last paradises of earth are taken over and destroyed and the first steps are taken for a Mars flight, which will not exactly be under a good star, however, during which only shortly afterwards more luck will be granted, even if problems of a technical nature will unexpectedly arise due to certain problems.
199. All this will only occur only shortly after the time when the worldwide plight of unemployment and all the evils associated with it will finally be remedied and mastered, although then there will also be a new increase in the arsenals of weapons, when, all over the world, the production of weapons will be increased again.
200. These are already the first signs of an impending third world war, which has been announced by prophecy, if mankind does not make an effort to avert this danger by reason and by thinking and acting correctly.
201. But if man does not act against the fulfilment of prophecy, then a new and very destructive weapon will find its perfection, which will cause devastating consequences [destructions] in the next world war.
202. The reason why this may happen is that the surveillance of the earth from space is being criminally neglected.
German Original
http://www.figu.org/ch/ufologie/kontaktberichte/kontaktbericht-251
193. Doch mit all dem wird noch nicht genug sein, denn eine weitere, schlimme Seuche und Lungenkrankheit wird bei den Menschen ausbrechen.
194. Die schon seit langem praktizierte und immer wieder von neuem drohende Gefahr des Einsatzes chemischer Waffen wird sich trotz anderweitiger Bemühungen wieder steigern, wie dies auch der Fall ist hinsichtlich atomarer sowie biologischer Waffen.
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198. Der Massentourismus nimmt immer gewaltigere Formen an, und langsam aber sicher werden noch die letzten Paradiese der Erde mit Beschlag belegt und zerstört und die ersten Schritte für einen Marsflug unternommen, der jedoch nicht gerade unter einem guten Stern stehen wird, während dem nur kurz darauf folgenden mehr Glück beschieden sein wird, auch wenn durch gewisse Probleme technischer Natur unverhofft Schwierigkeiten auftreten werden.
199. Dies alles ergibt sich nur kurz nach der Zeit, wenn die weltweite Misere der Arbeitslosigkeit und alle damit verbundenen Übel endlich behoben und bewältigt werden, wobei dann jedoch auch eine neue Aufstockung der Waffenarsenale erfolgt, wenn in weltweiter Form die Waffenproduktion wieder angekurbelt wird.
200. Dies sind bereits wieder erste Zeichen für einen drohenden dritten Weltkrieg, der durch eine Prophetie angekündigt ist, wenn der Erdenmensch sich nicht bemüht, diese Gefahr durch seine Vernunft und ein demgemäss richtiges Denken und Handeln abzuwenden.
201. Handelt der Mensch jedoch nicht der Prophetie-Erfüllung entgegenwirkend, dann wird eine neuartige und sehr zerstörerische neue Waffe ihre Vollendung finden, die beim nächsten Weltkrieg verheerende Folgen hervorrufen wird.
202. Dazu kommen kann es dann auch darum, weil die Überwachung der Erde vom Weltraum aus sträflich vernachlässigt wird.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1632
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2021 - 12:24 am: |
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Just to clarify this
The article should not convey that asteroids may be employed as (last resort) "very destructive weapons". But the Mu-like technique of controlling the path of asteroids that Matt mentioned - it made me remember that in our time a very destructive space weapon will (according to Billy in CR 251) "... find its perfection". |
Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2021 - 03:26 am: |
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This can also happen because the surveillance of Earth from space is criminally neglected.”
To this day even after all these years on contemplating about the possibilities on and off I still cannot come to a satisfactory conclusion as to how and why the neglect of surveilling earth from space could produce such an outcome.
What could it be
Does it point towards a satellite based HARRP like weapon that fires high frequency electromagnetic waves onto earth that was neglected to be identified?
Is it the neglect to detect the testing of an overkill weapon which produces a chain reaction effect much more deadlier than a nuclear weapon?
Is it a sonic or ultrasonic type weapon that can wipe out vast schools of fish, flock of birds in flight, score of elephants and deer or even city full of people?
Or is it an eco type weapon that can artificially produce earthquakes, tsunamis, forest fires, volcanic eruptions and hurricanes?
What about an antimatter weapons testing where balls of intense million degree light can be produced and hurdled like cannon ball?
Could it be to do with next generation of hypersonic weapons that travel at mach 20 with warheads?
What about a ray type weapon that disintegrates everything it is fired at?
I have no idea.
Matt lee |
Rob_stewart
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Post Number: 12
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2021 - 08:50 am: |
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Hi Matt, wow its been a journey.
I have checked out a number of items. In summary, I think we need to consider weaponised satellites.
From 251.
This can also happen because the surveillance of Earth from space is criminally neglected. And again new weapons will be talked about as well as the death of four heads of state who will die within seven days. This will be a last sign of danger of the fact that the world war that has been feared for so long will still break out within only about two years if Earth people do not finally become masters of reason and stop all evil. If this does not happen, the people will no longer benefit when they try to protest against the new, lethal weapons in order to outlaw them, because the arsenals of weapons in many countries will then already be full of them.
There are a number of articles talking about how the grey area of law (not that grey to me) and lack of observation means we likely have weapons in space. If a journalist thinks this, then the military think this or at least talk about it. They will see it as "required" to have a counter or at least have budget for it..
There are several articles on microwave weapons being used in Havana and another article about China using something on the Indian army 2020. Putin has announced today 21 April, that Russia has laser weapons and will retaliate. Both China and America have these weapons. Annoyed I missed the development, but it is not well publicised as a mass blinding weapon is illegal and microwaves are safe 5G..
Looking at the material available many of these programs are in place and the capability; looks to be planned to occur between now and 2026. You might notice the "coincidence" of 5 years open planning for war. I am actually taken aback that I did not understand how awful these weapons are. I also am surprised at the advances towards military action - covid has been a smoke screen for the worst sort of policy.
Its actually the reason I copied the excerpt on the heads of state. With covid raging losing 4 in one week is a distinct possibility. Also considering current administrations globally there is a reasonably high chance that any emergency leader promoted to the position would be more aggressive with regards war. Also see the death of the leader previously as a possible sign of weakness - requiring a show of strength. Not to cause alarm, it could also be an earth event but be aware as I am sure we all are.
I had thought the strategic nuclear weapons, smaller yields so more usable, might have been the weapons that we should object to. Trump approved these as a last act 2020. They are objectionable for sure but I suspect it is these more secret "non lethal" energy weapons that are horrific. If a satellite or a group of satellites could bombard a country with microwaves and thus disable the nation in waves of sickness and migraines and break electrical objects. It is the sort of solution our megalomaniacal leaders want to have.
I did a fair bit of research into microwaves and it may or may not surprise the forum - there is not much research on the effect on humans. The research that was done post world war II was secret and has been issued in a greatly redacted form. Other studies are underfunded or specific to very small wattages of microwave energy.
Now the problem is if we do not protest against these weapons - which are not being used and not being developed but will be available shortly to kill drones.. Governments truly suck. The failure to object goes badly in the event of a fourth world war.
I would also say, the cause and effect chain at the moment - Michael posted up at the start of April on they fly blog:
https://theyflyblog.com/2021/04/as-the-time-fulfills-russian-buildup-in-arctic/
Ukraine looks like another pending disaster - UK sending ships to the Black sea.. to quote the hunt for red October:
And what looks like an exercise could be a prelude to war. How can we tell the difference?
Prudence demands that we deploy ships to observe yours. Your government should consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity is inherently dangerous.
Wars have begun that way, Mr. Ambassador.
Unfortunately this is not the movies and our politicians seem to not quite have the lines to avoid disaster. They seem more concerned with the pay packet.
A weapon that causes mass sickness through a technology barely understood. A weapon in the sky. A laser weapon that disintegrates armour. I object to all of these but how do we protest against secret experimentation - not for use on humans..
Time might be shorter than we think..
Any ideas?
Salome. |
Rob_stewart
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Post Number: 18
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 - 01:20 am: |
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As an update the weapons that are key to the next world conflict are almost certainly hypersonic long range missiles. The barriers to such weapons were removed by Trump in 2019. The world superpowers all have this capability.
The reason these missiles are so catastrophic ,is the very short launch to target time frame. They also have an enhanced maneuverability, certainly for hypersonic glide. There is no time for human response. These are the weapons we urgently need to object to.
Once established as a response. The defence logically is a delegation of launch responsibility and automation. This is due to the speed effectively the command chain i.e. the president can be removed with 5 minutes notice. This is due to the area of destruction and the speed of the delivery. Additionally when a missile is launched it will not be clear if it is nuclear or conventional and the maneuverability allows for a certain deception in target.
All these factors make this type of weapon a true escalation. It logically leads to automated responses and artificial intelligence guiding this.
If we on earth want a less destructive war. I cant see us totally avoiding it at this point. It really is critical we avoid the path we have started on.
Thoughts?
Salome |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1292
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2021 - 07:44 am: |
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Hi Rob,
You are correct about the hypersonic long-range missiles. However, the barriers to such weapons were removed long before Trump was elected to office.
When employed in the aerospace industry, the company received a contract to develop a SSST (Supersonic Sea Skimming Target) rocket, renamed the "Coyote" after production. This rocket was manufactured and tested effectively. When launched from air, land, or sea, it traveled at around mach 3 (three times the speed of sound) at supersonic or hypersonic (greater than 3,000 mph) speeds using ramjet propulsion.
The reason it was called a target is because another nation (Russia) already had this technology. Once the Target was established, a counter or defense against it was developed. Humans cannot operate machines traveling at these speeds, artificial intelligence is required. This is no longer classified as secret.
As stated in the prophecies, if or when these weapons are unleashed between nations, it will not end well for either side. It would appear that Russia has technologies that the rest of the world does not have, yet. As we know, Russia was always ahead of other nations in the space race...
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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| | Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2021 - 10:43 am: |
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I wonder why that is the case Kenneth that Russia is always ahead of the west in terms of space and weapons technology.
Even with the breakup of the former USSR and their economy being shattered after or during the cold war, their military industrial complex and heavy industries as corrupt as it was Putin still managed to build it up to its former glory with a shoe string budget to maintain superiority over the west is really remarkable.
I guess the western version of democracy throws up too many obstacles and bureaucratic red tape for any decent progress to be made as too many government regulations hinders, stifles and withholds creativity and innovation unlike that of Russia and China where certain dictatorship helps in progressing everything.
Matt lee |
Hugo
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| | Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2021 - 03:57 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
I think it is because the USA military industry complex squandered most of it's money on things that weren't that essential because of greed, whereas Russia was frugal and only spent their money where it mattered. Putin even said that once when he announced all them new hypersonic weapons. |
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