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    Schantz Member Post Number: 402 Registered: 03-2007 |
Was Dyson Devine right about the 9/11 attacks? Many of us, including myself, basically used a form of Gewalt against him, which he then retreated into silence, which I hope he is enjoying. Many things that were denied in the past, or reflected in a clever way, to avoid harm or prosecution, seem to be coming to light now. I give my personal apologies to Dyson, which I hope he accepts, while laying on his wind blown hammock, down way down under. But no need for hope he accepts, because knowing Dyson, he has an accepting nature. Thank you Dyson, for knowing what you did, when you did. Enjoy the breeze down there. You deserve it! Schantz | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2690 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Kenneth did you ever work on any special access projects involving antigravitic devices or something equivalent to this? If so why are superconductors such an integral part of antigravitic devices but most of all thulium? Matt lee | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1373 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Matt, Do not know much about Thulium other than it is used in X-ray devices, solid-state lasers and ceramic magnetic ferrite materials. According to Dr. Marcel Vogal, the metal sample that Billy/Plejaren provided contained not only Thulium (extremely rare) but other materials such as Silicon, Iron, Lead, Argon, silver, copper, nickel, Sulfur, etc. As you know when you combine any substances together you get a different acting material. For instance, when one combines Steel (Iron and Carbon) with Nickel and Chromium (Chromite), you get Stainless Steel. In my option, Earth scientists do not fully understand the combined materials of the metal sample provided by the Plejaren, which disappeared after the preliminary analysis was performed. It is assumed that the Plejaren retrieved the material as it was too soon for Earthlings to have this technological breakthrough.   My work in the aerospace industry was Civil Engineering, which involved designing, planning, constructing, maintaining, and operating the infrastructure of numerous rocket assembly plants and launch sites around the world. Consequently, it was required to have access to almost everything including SCIF’s (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) which is a standalone highly secure structure inside a high security building on secure special access property. Ha, think of the Get Smart TV series prelude… Have been interviewed by the MIB (Men In Black) from DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency). If there is such a thing as human robots, … Sorry, I have digressed, having worked in many special access projects, it was required to have a very high security clearance. To be clear, I am not a scientist or metallurgist, so I would not have worked on anything associated with antigravity, did not work on the vehicles (rockets & satellites) themselves. When entering an elevated security DARPA high-bay SCIF, their projects were always covered with tarps. There could be 7 engineers working on a DARPA vehicle, but one engineer would not know the complete details of the other 6 engineers. It would not surprise me if DARPA was working on something associated with antigravity… Nonetheless, I use levity more than I maybe should… Salome Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2694 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks for the explanation Kenneth. You do have quite a resume when it comes to building things. I gather that you were working as a private contractor rather than any government department or DOD. There are so much kickbacks going on with the process of procuring contracts that getting any substantial projects, be it public or private, is next to impossible unless you know someone or have access to somebody dolling out these contracts who you can pay off or have someone pay them off on your behalf. There are so many subtle ways and creative means of essentially giving what amounts to money under the table to get contracts that it has taken on an art form in itself. The world is drowning in bribe money and no shortage of the middlemen facilitating this cheating like steroid jabs in athletes arms. There is a reason why budgets on any infrastructure projects, especially government, balloon out and why the US defense budget seems to get bigger and bigger and cost run in larger and larger compared to say Russia. Have you ever been approached by anybody with an enticing envelop and a bottle of vintage 100 year old wine. Just joking Kenneth. Anyway the world is flush with money but in the wrong places being bottlenecked by selfish people who already got so much of it that they don't need more of it yet more is never enough for them and unfortunately the system facilitates this 'greed is good' Gordon Gecko mentality. Matt lee | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1374 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Matt, You stated, “… I gather that you were working as a private contractor rather than any government department or DOD.” The company that I worked for was a private contractor to the U.S. government, NASA, and other governments for launching various communication satellites into orbit. There is all kinds of information in the Contact Notes about various governments, including NASA not doing the right thing… I am not aware of any kickbacks. But then I was not involved in those kinds of contracts. Nonetheless, there were three different astronauts employed by the company, my boss was retired astronaut, Ron Grabe who was the president.  The other astronauts were in charge of different divisions as well, which gave us a little edge over the competition with NASA. Grabe’s boss was JR Thompson, a retired NASA director Marshall Space Flight Center. What is interesting, retired Air Force OSI (Office of Special Investigations) agent RB told me that Thompson was obviously aware of the fake Apollo-11 Moon landing as pointed out in the Contact Notes/Reports. But he would never talk about that. Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2697 Registered: 07-2005 |
Kenneth I am sure he is bound by the nondisclosure agreement with threat of fine and/or imprisonment if he said anything. So many people are gagged by this agreement that the only thing you can rely on these days are the deathbed confessions but even then its unreliable as by then they are too old, weak and frail to remember with any level of accuracy. Speaking of Tesla's deathray that Michael has written an article about, how plausible do you think that this weapon was used to bring down the twin towers on 911? Matt lee | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1374 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Matt, (Newinitiation), In my opinion, Tesla's death ray laser weapon had nothing to do with bringing down the Twin Towers on Tuesday, September 11, 2001.   "The death ray or death beam was a theoretical particle beam or electromagnetic weapon first theorized around the 1920s and 1930s. Around that time, notable inventors such as Guglielmo Marconi, Nikola Tesla, Harry Grindell Matthews, Edwin R. Scott, Erich Graichen and others claimed to have invented it independently." Wikipedia Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2698 Registered: 07-2005 |
Kenneth I am sure you've heard of a lot of things about many different things within your circle and the industry that you've worked in that the laymen have absolutely no idea of. Judy Wood's question 'where did the towers go' still lingers with me to this day and the question about what caused the dustification and the steel column spires to disintegrate right before your eyes still cannot be reconciled with Billy and Ptaah's answers in the contact notes unless they were just being arch crooked for a very good reason upon considering so many factors. So would it be fair to state that the directed energy weapons are essentially Tesla's deathray weapon in your opinion? Matt lee | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1374 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Matt, As we know, George H. W. Bush was the 11th Director of Central Intelligence and the 41st president of the United States from January 20, 1989 – January 20, 1993. The contact notes identify the CIA as the actual secret world government, the biggest secret terror organization in the world. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/w/index.php?search=world+trade+centre&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1 President George W. Bush (son of George H. W. Bush) was U.S. president from January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009, during the attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. We also know that so called coincidences are cause and effect. Traditional skyscrapers utilize stability through a system of large vertical columns running through each floor with the exterior walls providing little support on their own. However, in twin towers, engineers put the bulk of the buildings’ strength on the outside with tubes of heavy steel. This was an innovative design. The framed tube structures provided tenants with an open floor plan, uninterrupted by columns or walls.  Note: The exterior of the tower construction is steel tubing, NOT steel beams. The framed-tube design created a relatively lightweight structure where each floor supported its own weight as well as live loads. Each floor consisted of 4-inch (10 cm) thick LIGHTWEIGHT concrete slabs laid on a fluted steel deck. This is key to understanding why most everything disintegrated, so to say.  Note: In the picture the floors look thicker than 4-inches (10 CM). What you are seeing are the lips of the floor pans to keep the wet LIGHWEIGHT concrete from spilling over the edge. The jet aircraft that Impacted the towers were fully loaded with Jet A-1 fuel. Once vaporized this jet full is extremely flammable and burns at a much higher temperature than other fuels. Consequently, the framed building tube structures would easily weaken and bend/melt, ultimately causing the towers to collapse. The American World Trade Center symbolized globalization and the economic power of America which was organized by David Rockefeller. The CIA let this 9/11 event happen to get the peoples backing to go to war. To answer your question, “where did the towers go”, during the collapsed of the Twin Towers, the thin LIGHTWEIGHT concrete floor slabs were pulverized into a light gray dust for the most part as can be seen in various videos. The floor structure was not designed to withstand the impact of an above floor fall about 14 feet let alone 110 stories. Kenneth | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3498 Registered: 12-1999 |
I don't recall reading in the Contact Reports the reason for the collapse of Bldg 7? It seemed very odd since this building received no direct impact by any aircraft, but seemed to collapse on its own volition, except for a few fires, which hardly constituted a reason for the entire collapse unless it was assisted by some sort of explosive devices strategically placed within the structure which gave the appearance of a controlled demolition.... | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1374 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hello Scott, I do not recall reading that in the Contact Reports either. For reference, seven buildings comprised the World Trade Center complex.  Long story short: According to reports, Building-7 was 370 feet (113 meters) from WTC 1. When WTC-1 collapsed, think of an upside-down mushroom explosion which gutted building 7.  Additionally, Building-7 had a manual fire suppression sprinkler system, which could not be activated. Jet fuel laden debris ignited fires in building-7. Heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, causing structural failure and collapse. It’s my professional opinion that no lasers or explosives were involved in the building-7 collapse. When the weakened beams and girders collapsed into the fire/fuel debris it would appears as an explosion. Note: “Eventually, a girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to a critical column, Column 79, that provided support for the long floor spans on the east side of the building (see Diagram 1). The displaced girder and other local fire-induced damage caused Floor 13 to collapse, beginning a cascade of floor failures down to the 5th floor. Many of these floors had already been at least partially weakened by the fires in the vicinity of Column 79. This collapse of floors left Column 79 insufficiently supported in the east-west direction over nine stories.” Kind regards Kenneth | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Scott Maybe the reverberation from the impacted buildings caused building 7 to collapse? You see many buildings being affected during earthquakes and fault line quakes. Would the same happen as the towers collapsed? Maureen | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3499 Registered: 12-1999 |
Hi Kenneth & Maureen It just seems all the supports were destroyed at the same time which caused the building to collapse straight down within it's footprint, like it did with WTC 7. I also noticed some of the videos on you tube which provide an alternate view have been removed, or they are hard to find doing a search as before... I have been in some pretty strong quakes and although I do recall seeing buildings on fire, I don't recall seeing anything quite like Bldg 7 the way it just collapsed so suddenly, not leaning to one side or another, or only partially collapsing...I try not to buy into conspiracy theories, but something seemed unnatural in the way this occurred.... | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1558 Registered: 07-2009 |
One thing that stands out in my memory - and which I hope is accurate - is remembering seeing the owner of the building, Larry Silverstein , saying that they "had to pull it", which I later understood to mean a controlled demolition. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2700 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Kenneth thanks for your detailed explanation. If my memory serves me correct around the year 2005-2006 Dyson Devine put up a link of a youtube video of the collapse of the WTC. In the video as the world trade tower was free falling what looked to be many floors high steel beams not yet collapsed stood for a good 10 seconds or so. The so called steel column spires then disintegrated as it was falling, literally turning to steel dust even before it totally collapsed. Conventional engineering explanation for this is impossible when it comes to this steel column spire. Logic dictates that if the problem requires a solution and the solution you have right now doesn't fit the problem then you've got to look elsewhere. In terms of these spires you have to look at unconventional arena in secret science and physics. John Hutchison demonstrated to some extent in his experiments. You also have to look at other evidence available in conjunction with many others to draw a conclusion that best obtains the truth. The ones Michael and Scott gave also needs very careful analysis. The case of the burnt out (melted, transmuted) rows of cars many blocks away from WTC complex also throws out the conventional explanation for why the towers collapsed. These cars had papers inside the vehicles that weren't burnt whereas the car was totally scorched. How could anybody explain away these anomalies with conventional fire especially when you are talking about hundreds of cars in the same condition that were parked many blocks away from the WTC site. As much as your explanation makes good sense what happened on 911 was not your ordinary run of the mill event but incredible things had happened that day that left extraordinary evidence that evinces extraordinary claims. Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2701 Registered: 07-2005 |
Wasn't the WTC 7 fire deliberately lit with many tonnes of gold stolen from the vaults within that building. I also heard that CIA had an office in that building as well. There were just too many coincidences on that day. Maureen my thoughts on this issue is that if the foundation of WTC 7 had weakened it should've also applied to the US postal service and Verizon building. By right the WTC 3, 4, 5 and 6 should've been the most affected by the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 and it should've collapsed like the main buildings but it didn't. What intrigues me is how rows of steel columns from the adjacent block from the WTC complex that was being built at the time was basically destroyed or transmuted into an unrecognizeable mess as if something had been fired at it. I suspect that the Hutchison effect applied here. Matt lee | ||
Joe Member Post Number: 672 Registered: 11-2008 |
DeepL preliminary English translation of Contact Report 781 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_781 | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3501 Registered: 12-1999 |
Excerpt from Contact Report 781 | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1780 Registered: 04-2011 |
CR 779 / Ptaah: "If the Nazi researchers who were working on it at the time had been able to complete the invention entirely, and before Hitler, together with his wife who had married him shortly before, was shot by his servants in his bunker in Berlin, then he would have become the ruler of the world with this weapon. " So - AH did not commit suicide? | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3502 Registered: 12-1999 |
Bill, Didn't Hitler request his servants to kill him, because he was too cowardly?... Scott | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1781 Registered: 04-2011 |
Scott, Is this - commonly known? I really never knew that. Bill | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3503 Registered: 12-1999 |
Bill, Try CR 733, you will find it there. Salome | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1782 Registered: 04-2011 |
Amazing! Thank you, Scott. Bill |
