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    Reen71b Member Post Number: 58 Registered: 09-2020 |
I really enjoy just reading some of the posts and find knowledge without looking for it. Very good discussion. Killing animal (and plant) life in order to provide adequate nutrition should not be frowned upon. Always respect the life that was taken and never kill for enjoyment (as those who do for the sport of it). Don't forget. Not all animals are herbivores. Some of them also depend on the meat of other animals. Maureen | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 76 Registered: 09-2021 |
“Sustainability means living in Abundance; giving-back more than you consume. We appreciate vitality; resilience and true equilibrium.” That’s one of my key principles as well. Living simply. And the Divine-Balance will be restored... I know it sounds silly, but I used to judge people for not being vegetarians!  Soften that auric shell... Complaining has a similar vibration to Worrying; and worrying is essentially praying for what you don’t want to happen. Two and Two equals Four. The inputs that go in beings such as us..People talk about carbon footprint...Did you ever consider the Life-Energy and Kinetic- Energy-foot-print? Casting Reverberations of what exactly? And what are the outputs? The butterfly-effect... When, for instance you get an item shipped halfway across the planet...the drastic and costly implications of that. When people understand this... The Era of the Wise-Ones will soon be upon us. We will make a space for the sub-commanders to get reincarnated. Bio-Regionalism is the way of the future. •rapping: “We need to treat Each-Other-Equally... There-needs-to-be: A worldwide seven-year-birth-stop... Immediately! I do this rap Presciently But I guess... Well-See...” Quetzel C.r. 150: “95. Therefore, it would be totally wrong if I would mention and explain those possibilities, which actually exist, in order to solve these problems with the energy and the food thoroughly. 96. We can only then involve ourselves with the mentioning of such possibilities when the Earth-human strives for a drastic reduction and a natural decimation of the planetary humanity to the normal state. 97. Only then could we show possible solutions to the problems, so that these problems...” Ect... Lyman t Urkke da Kjybevol Coordinates:Reverberation Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101: “A new people must be established.” -Ziffe a thire z da Ummi! | ||
Matcha Member Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2021 |
We need to remember that this Creation in which we all live is the lowest level of Creation in which all life lives by consuming other forms, albeit at times apparently only molecular; but the molecular too is imbued with life, the essence of Creation. We are just learning this interdependency on our planet but it is truly universal and an expression of the unity, the oneness, of all there is in the Creation. Everything is sooner or later consumed by something whereon its existence passes as it transforms into something else to live (in Creational energy) for a term in that form before it too must pass. The process continues eon after eon untill this Creation passes and eventually the next Creation is born wherein, according to the Creation Energy teaching, there will no longer be physical consummation of other life forms. Chris Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1433 Registered: 08-2010 |
The exploding population puts such a demand on industry, causing a callousness of the consciousness, that animals are sped through a brutal process in order to meet the demand on a timely fashion. Remember: Creational laws permit and even encourage the consumption of meat, but the creational recommendations advise that no animal need suffer pain and agony of their psyche and that technology is possible and capable to act conscientiously and empathically towards the fulfillment of this creational recommendation. We have to reflect upon and consider and strive for the cognizance regarding the very reason and purpose for the creation of this material universe in the first place. Through this cognizance we recognize that galaxies, their solar systems and habitable planets, along with all the fauna and flora, is for the sole purpose that human beings can exist in order to learn and evolve our consciousness. We simply need to observe and consider everything of the existence in a neutral positive and equalized wise in order to recognize the lessons and that which is evolutive which guarantee that abilities and capabilities are always further evolved and developed into ever higher forms and possibilities. The consciousness block does not think on its own, it is merely a tool. We have to do the actual thinking and figuring out everything, in order to learn and evolve. Beliefs that forbid or restrict with dogmas and/or doctrines stagnate the consciousness and poison the creational freedom given to the human wessen to think and direct everything correctly, conscientiously and empathetically. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 159 Registered: 04-2020 |
Piyali: "I have read that, the Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB), in collaboration with the National Research Centre on Meat (NRCM), has initiated research aimed at producing meat through cellular agriculture or cells sourced from animals and later cultivated into meat. It can also be called cell-based meat or ‘clean meat’ which will be is nutritionally equivalent to conventional animal meat. If this happens and becomes a permanent source of the nourishment one can receive from meats, then the killing of animals will no longer be necessary." We're almost there. Near the end of last year, Upside Foods Inc. opened a meat processing plant like no other. Inside the $50 million facility, just outside Berkeley, Calif., workers cultivate small clumps of animal cells in large vats over two weeks, slowly growing them into chicken breasts and steaks. No animal is slaughtered at any point in the process—the flesh is manufactured. At 53,000 square feet, the factory is the largest ever dedicated to so-called 'cultivated meat'; the company hopes consumers will be able to buy the meat it makes sometime in 2022. Unlike plant-based meat alternatives that have been on the market for years, cultivated meat is real meat. After seven years of work, Upside says it’s ready to pump out as much as 50,000 pounds of food from the California plant. “We want to be able to ship product from here nationally and then internationally,” says Uma Valeti, the chief executive officer and co-founder. He says Upside can make just about any meat product, but it will focus first on things like chicken nuggets and chicken breasts and has already started production at the facility. "When I tried an Upside chicken breast last year, it smelled and looked exactly like grilled chicken. It tasted like it, too, though the texture was a bit softer and less juicy." Source: Bloomberg  Upside Foods’ processing facility near Berkeley, Calif. Source: Upside Foods It’s already possible to purchase some types of man-made meat. In December 2020, Singapore became the first nation to approve the sale of cultivated meat. Israel’s Aleph Farms says it will be ready with some vat-grown thin-cut steaks by yearend. California companies such as BlueNalu Inc. and Wildtype hope to follow with seafood products, including sushi-grade fish. Meanwhile, San Francisco-based Eat Just Inc. is already selling chicken in Singapore. In addition to major reduction in animal suffering, the advantages of cell-based meat are multifarious. Prior to harvesting (slaughter), animals are vulnerable to stresses that can and do alter their pH and release measurable stress hormones—adrenaline, cortisol, and other steroids that are harmful to consume. And then there are the unmeasurable fluidal forces associated with 'fear' that are present. The insertion of cell-based meat in the global meat market may alleviate farm animal suffering and potentially restore resources for wild fauna. When meat production is uncoupled from animal raising and slaughter, supported by a deontological perspective of animal ethics, the development of the alternative meats may be related to a significant change in our relationship with non-human animals, with greater benefits than the prima facie effects on farm animals. Regards Bob | ||
Piyali Member Post Number: 202 Registered: 08-2012 |
@Phi_spiral Salome Bob, thank you for your post number 159 with the information about Upside Foods Inc. I will certainly look them up. It is encouraging news. I am against senseless killing of plants and animals other than for nourishment and healing when needed and is appropriate. I look forward to the day, when we will no longer have to kill animals for the nourishment they provide. Until then, I am deeply grateful to the animal whose meat I consume, that too, not much, just enough according to what my body requires. Thank you again to each and every one of you in this forum for sharing. Whether I agree or disagree is irrelevant. I am always learning from each and every post. Please forgive me, if I am not always here to thank you in writing, but I am always grateful. Love and respect to each and every one of you. Salome. Salome Piyali | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 1083 Registered: 04-2015 |
I am thinking of eating less meat during this pandemic because the Plejaren said something about meat being responsible for spreading the virus too. Cannot remember where they said that but I am guessing the animals will get the virus, or from the infected workers cutting and handling the meat, or both. I think I will avoid chickens and eggs too because I can just imagine how fast the virus will spread at a chicken farm if one chicken gets it. Is this thinking and concern justified and right? | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1434 Registered: 08-2010 |
To Hugo Hugo, ultimately, you have to make the determination yourself. Justified or not? That's something you can look into and see if the companies have implemented the right measures. There is a creational recommendation that we're all familiar with; "Better safe than sorry". So do your due diligence and then make an informed decision. But that's how I would approach it. Stay safe. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 725 Registered: 04-2011 |
Gday Hugo I use gloves and wash my hands handling meat, even frozen meat can have the virus for upto 3 weeks. ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 77 Registered: 09-2021 |
Your thoughts and what you think about can have a significant effect on the organism; and that means being such as us. Your ability to resist getting sick has a multitude of factors. Terrain theory. Epigenetics. Your thoughts have a Reverberation, and Radiation, as well. What color would they be of the radiation values? Take precautions and don’t be careless; but worrying, esp. incessantly, it a good way to increase your cortisol production. And bum you out.  •rapping: “Thoughts-Create; shape-your mind-state... what you Fixate upon; before it’s too late... Cognition and Cognations...you get the way in relation... I’ll elucidate: That It’s all Vibrational... (You do know what I’m saying to you?)” It lowers your spiritual vibration to be worried. Like my best friend said: Worrying is similar to Praying for what you don’t want. We carry so much fear inside us. Open up. Let your hair down. Idk...I’m busy Chasing-Rainbows Seriously though... Lyman t Urkke P.s. Three Golden Rules in “die psyche,” p.170 da Kjybevol Coordinates:Reverberation Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101: “A new people must be established.” -Ziffe a thire z da Ummi! | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 3541 Registered: 12-1999 |
Friteeucman, Presently FIGU, prefers the term "Swinging Waves" (Schwingungen) instead of "vibration"...ie; 'swinging waves of the subconsciousness', not 'vibrations of the subconsciousness'... Scott | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 79 Registered: 09-2021 |
(Whoops, ok, last time... post this message instead, Scott) I see... Danke and Malhalos. I actually found that on the forum, the spiritual vibration. I prefer Timbre; as in timbre; harmony; and reverberation. My understanding of the material is cursory at best. So swinging-waves would be finer than vibration; Vibrations producing swinging waves? P. 172 “die psyche:” “All beginnings are very difficult, thus also the learning of neutral -positive thinking. In the beginning it will take in immense amount of effort to concentrate on the wishful dream because the negative thought world constantly shoots its moral-killing arrows. Unceasingly, the subconscious tries to push the rampant negative goods of thoughts into the foreground through which a concentration on the wishful dream can be brought about only very laboriously. Nevertheless however, over and over again, every thought must be directed to the wistful dream until the negative advancement of the subconscious slowly subsides, finally disappears entirely and allows the positive thinking upper hand and the reign.” My dream? A unified-earth... Lyman t Urkke... ‘a‘ole puka (“no holes” in Hawaiian.) It will only be a matter of time. Dream-Really-Big or Go-Home; which, as I said before; is actually the same exact thing. you Do you want to go home right? Ok then... The Supposed “Leaders” think they have so much at stake the way things are. We will educate them that there a better way. Like it is for-told; our Enemies will become Allies because it truly is in their best interest. Since-Early; Lyman t Urkke (peace on Earth) F.e. da Kjybevol Coordinates:Reverberation Quetzel; C.r. 150, sec. 101: “A new people must be established.” -Ziffe a thire z da Ummi! | ||
Matthew Member Post Number: 197 Registered: 03-2011 |
Hello, On the 7th January I collapsed outside my apartment gasping for air whilst waiting for the ambulance I had called and ended up in intensive care (ICU) in hospital for a couple of days with surgery needed to install a pipe into my throat for breathing purposes. My heart didn't give out although I was described as being blue in the face. Just over a week later and I am back from hospital, the tracheostomy pipe is out and I've just been out for my first jog - just 10 days later - using the power of consciousness to heal myself quickly in a very concentrated way. I want to thank and dearly embrace all those who helped me survive, although recovery is not the correct term here: It was a quick evolutive growth, which I am determined to continue well into and beyond the ordinary bindings of my life that I had made for myself and led to the issues in the first place and already I am seeing my life anew - not changed, just appreciating it much, much, more now. Salome, Matthew | ||
Jokubas_stalmokas Member Post Number: 124 Registered: 01-2011 |
Matthew, Congratulations surviving and wish you all the strength! | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1839 Registered: 04-2011 |
Salome, Matthew Glad you mastered this challenge so well by making it a stepping stone for growth. You are right, to live with gratitude gives us a sense of universal oneness and strength, fear disappears “Thanksgiving has wings, and flies to its right destination.” —Victor Hugo | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1405 Registered: 04-2013 |
Greetings all, Question for anyone. What language was the Henoch Prophecies originally written in? Searching the Web is useless, as it is all twisted up with various religions, some suggesting Hebrew which does not make sense. Other suggest Aramaic, which makes more sense, but I don’t trust that answer. Searching http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/search.cgi did not reveal an answer. I have a copy of the Henoch Prophecies in German and English, no clues there either. Could not find any clues in Guido’s book “And Still They Fly”. Suggestions? Salome Kenneth | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1853 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Kenneth, Interesting question. I am not quite sure in which language the Henoch Teachings were originally written. But it seems there were copies in many different languages. Because Henoch’s teachings – like Billy’s – were of a global or even universal (1) dimension: Ptaah to Billy in CR 469: 31. Therefore, your duty and mission is not the same as that of a prophet, who in his actions is only devoted to one people and its religion, because you are of a different kind, because your mission is a prophethood, but also a proclamation, not of a popular but of a global kind. Later on, in the same (469) CR Ptaah explains that one part of Henoch’s Teachings was given to Merlin, a druid who lived in Cornwall (SW England opp. Brittany, NW France) between 449 to 543 AD: 77. Merlin received a copy of Henoch's teachings, being the first part of the “Goblet of Truth” written on Earth, memorized it and then locked and sealed it in a cauldron. For more details: www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_469 ===================================================================== (1) E.g.: We know that Henoch had taught the yellow races about acupuncture: 269. Henok himself was the investigator and inventor of acupuncture, which was taken over and exercised by his peoples and which has endured to the present day among the distant descendants of the peoples from “beyond the Sun,” which is how it has been received by today’s Chinese." For more details see www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_216 | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1568 Registered: 07-2009 |
See illustrated version also: https://theyfly.com/comix/the-adventures-of-billy-meier/en/ep4/Contact-Report-469/1 | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2720 Registered: 07-2005 |
Bill I think those were two different Henoch/Henok I think. Matt lee | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1442 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Kenneth (and those interested), Your spelling of the name thus; "Henoch" - suggests you are speaking of the First of Seven prophets (therefore Earth born). Henoch (Enoch) born 3rd February 9308 - died 1st January 8942 BC (born on our planet Earth). Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch Henok (very harsh pronunciation), who came to our planet Earth 389,000 years ago, was a "role model" to the Plejaren. Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Multinational_Peace_Corps Henok was the one who coined the aphorism, well known by the Plejaren, which is; "Foolishness always first precedes reason." The Henok Prophecies can be found in CR 215 Source: NOTE: In my opinion, the English translation of the name Henok is incorrect as "Henoch" -which may cause confusion (this should be clarified). http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 If you are referring to the 8,000 year old photographed document that was sent to Billy, then it pertains to the old Lyrian language; but this document was brought here to Earth by a Lyrian/Vegan 8,000 years ago and may not have necessarily been written by Henok himself. Perhaps Christian Frehner or Billy can clarify this. It is necessary to clarify if Henok of 389,000 years ago spoke the Lyrian language (if) being born of Lyrian peoples prior to traveling to Earth. Source: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_117 You may find the following of particular interest: 1. http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Nokodemion Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1406 Registered: 04-2013 |
Thank you, Bill (Tat_tvam_asi) and Michael (Theyfly), I have read Contact Report 469 before, it never hurts to read it again, new comprehensions are always exposed after first processing the material. So, if Henok himself was the inventor of acupuncture, which has endured to the present day among the DISTANT DESCENDANTS of the peoples from “beyond the Sun,” … today’s Chinese. This sounds like Henok was involved with the Chinese long before that race ventured to Earth and many other races as well. That may explain why the original language of Henok (Henoch) cannot be found, it may not be documented in his original language. In fact, I do not know what his original language was? Maybe the universal language of Sarat? If that is the case, suspect that you are correct in that many copies of the Henoch Prophecies were scattered in many different languages for lack of a better definition. Because Henok’s teaching was universal. It always helps to brainstorm with you. Salome Kenneth | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1408 Registered: 04-2013 |
Eddie, Thank you for catching this and the clarification. Something was tapping on my subconscious when I was reading this, should have paid close attention to the difference between: Henoch (Enoch) born 3rd February 9308 - died 1st January 8942 BC (born on our planet Earth). And Henok who came to our planet Earth 389,000 years ago, was a "role model" to the Plejaren. Salome Kenneth | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1855 Registered: 04-2011 |
Hi Kenneth, Yes, we are good “brainstormers”. Salome, Bill NB What is interesting is the fact that Henoch must have taught the yellow races very long ago. To answer this question we must determine when did the last Chinese leave their destination from “beyond the Sun”? www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Attacking_questions_from_Japan This report tells us: 22 million years ago: Ancient Lyrans arrive on planet earth 16 million years ago: An expedition fleet of Lyrans (from Lasan) discovers the yellow races from planet Kudra “beyond the sun” (Other side of our galaxy) and settles them on Planet Nissan *) /Lyra System 6.7 million years ago: The yellow races on Planet Nissan fought wars whereupon a number of individuals from each race united and fled in 9 spaceships. They followed a well-known path that had been discovered in the Lyra system by the old Lasans around 22 million years ago = they came to Earth and settle in an area that is now China. However, their colonization took place at a time when powerful upheavals and transformations were taking place on Earth, which meant that the climatic conditions were subject to these changes as well. The newcomers were not prepared for this and were unable to defend themselves against the forces of nature. Their spaceships quickly deteriorated, for they were unable to withstand the corrosive effects of Earth's atmosphere. After only a few years, when the catastrophe befell them, the ships were useless and inoperative, and every one of the newcomers perished. 2.4 million years ago: Another expedition leaves planet Kudra “beyond the Sun” and settles on planet Nissan. The population on Nissan keeps increasing. 25,978 years before 1990 AD = 23,988 BCE www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Nisan_star_system www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_236 (CR 236:197) The ancestors of today’s Chinese and Japanese leave the overpopulated planet Nissan for Earth. From this we can conclude: If the 'Acupuncture knowledge' (that became an ancient tradition of today’s Chinese) was already taught to Chinese ancestors on Kudra / Nisan *) System “beyond the Sun”, it must have happened before 2.4 million years ago and not later than 16 million years ago. So Henoch may have been already on his mission (teaching his races) a long time ago. *) The 'Nisan System' must not be mixed up with the 'Planet Nissan' in the Lyra system |
