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    Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1908 Registered: 04-2011 |
Yes, Scott / Michael. I had always thought that this could only happen in the distant future. But what we see happening in the Ukraine may have become the catalyst for unstoppable catastrophic events explaining Billy’s ominous “It will lead to …” . Yes, Finland (1300 km border to Russia) and Sweden may soon apply for Nato membership. Not in aggression. Their people and politicians simply want to protect their democratic freedoms: Having a say. A press that freely reports about the good and the bad of their leaders. Not being bullied/coerced. Not be the next target of brutal takeovers. But the unfolding reality seems to lead to war: NATO Secretary General on Wednesday: “If they (Sweden and Finland) decide to apply, I expect that all allies will welcome them.” Immediate comment by one Russian politician (V. Dzabarov): “If the Finnish leadership goes along with this it would be a strategic mistake … Finland would become a target.” So, to whom it may concern: Observe the true motivations underlying your thoughts. They are like a thesis foreshadowing the later outcomes in your life. So, promote a synthesis and only do to others what you want to be done to yourself. ============================================== Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to destruction. ((Yoda) To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom. (B. Russell) Henoch Prophecies (e.g., CR 215:248-252) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 Post from Mar 2, 2022: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/19922.html#POST94681 | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1468 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello F.e., I'm in the infancy of discovering this consciousness ability I learned about through the Goblet Of The Truth and the book Might Of The Thoughts. I started out attempting to recognize the causality law of Creation through simple easy ziele. Slowly working my way up; Admittedly, repetitive study of those books was helpful because the understanding and recognition came easier (clearly/clarity). For me, the Coronavirus pandemic is a big leap and challenge. I'm likely mistaken, but it's the learning opportunity that I'm after. This exercise will allow me a deeper (further) glimpse into the Creational laws and recommendations through any mistakes and errors. To answer your question regarding the actual factors. The law of causality carries with it recommendations which must be recognized through a consciousness based wise (as I'm slowly understanding). So every factor related to the pandemic must be carefully weighed out in meditation/reflection. So this information must first be sought out and carefully "searched & researched" (Arahat Athersata). Start your search and research journey by looking into the antivirals that have had huge success without any side effects. In the U.S. they are slowly becoming available in more and more pharmacies (testing and prescribing is offered free of charge). Friends of mine, husband and wife, came down with severe covid-19 and were rushed to the hospital where they tested positive and administered the antivirals. In two days they felt fine and were released from the ward. My friend said they felt that they were going to die, had severe fevers and could barely breath... all of that cleared up with the first dose (Taken twice a day for 5 days). Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 144 Registered: 09-2021 |
I could be off; but didn’t Billy say that those antivirals had a limited effect; (in addition the the placebo effect), essentially just a band-aid solution; and that also, they where making the pharmaceutical companies rich off the taxpayer dime? Personally, I believe (notice I said Belief…it is yet to be tested sufficiently), I am incredibly resistant to getting Covid (and all sicknesses), partially due to my thought-forms; and the Creation-Energy and my brain and body being in the sort of coherent-harmony… But even if you; or I; or anyone for that matter had this ability; look around you to simply see the rudimentary and hostile thinking that pervades the planet. Additionally, the contact reports don’t allude to this. My hunch is it will be many years before we get a handle on this…it could be five, or 50. Perhaps someone will figure out electron medicine, and genetics by then. All-the-best, F.e. -Lynxsis-Azam z da Klebvar, iki Prymam a Und z da Zoda! | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1469 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello F.e. I know the article you're referring to. I was the one who sent it to Billy. Yes, that particular antiviral has a 48% efficacy. Like I said, I'm likely mistaken, so I can only hope I'm on target and this pandemic is over soon and the Plejaren can finally give us their "thumbs up" that's it's safe again. I'm closely observing events and seeing how things develop. It's just a learning experience for me. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 09-2020 |
I saw a blip in the news about why some people are resistant to getting COVID. Unfortunately, It was super early in the morning and I was gearing up for a 12 hr shift and didn't have the time to read it at the moment. I may have to look it up. Although I take what the news says with a grain of salt considering the sources out there are tainted with misinformation. Anyway, I too seem to have faired well (so far) with COVID. Although I do suspect I had it January 2020 in the very beginning before they had started testing for it. There's no way for me to know for sure. Two years into this and I'm still following protocol to the best of my ability except for work due to the fact that I talk on a radio and phone lines and I need to come across clearly which is difficult to do wearing a mask. I still wear one in public and still only go out unless it's for work or food shopping (also 5 mile walks here and there to get out in the open air). I do visit my mother. I know it's tough for a lot of people to do. And unfortunately, it has to be this way because the vast majority just don't think it's a big deal. I see only maybe 5% of people in public wearing masks now. This is definitely complacency at it's worst. I consider myself to have a very healthy immune system for being 50 years old. I take my health very seriously. Even so, I'm not willing to play roulette with my health and will continue to do what's necessary to protect myself. Even if you may well have the ability to protect yourself, please do not think you're invincible. None of us are. Maureen | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1910 Registered: 04-2011 |
“It starts in summer…” Just one final thought re. the Henoch Prophecies re. Finland and Sweden. I have always been intrigued why, according to these prophecies, countries were attacked without any provocation – and that there is no mention that any other country comes to their aid: Could it be that – like in the Ukraine - Russia attacks Finland and Sweden while they are still helpless, i.e., before they become a member of NATO? Not quite sure in what year this would be but the prophecies state 249. It must still be stated that the Russian attack will occur during the summer, in fact, starting from Archangelsk... http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 The prophecies do not mention any reason for the possible wars But the outwardly stated reason for “the present war” was a fear of NATO. But NATO is only a defensive pact. It may have intervened to stop the senseless killings in the Balkan Wars (Kosovo, Bosnia). Tried to find Osama Bin Laden. But it never started a war. And its new post 1990 members, were they not under foreign dictatorship for decades? So why should they not want to protect their newfound liberty and freedom? Maybe I am ignorant. Maybe I do not know many truths. Maybe the reported truth is relative everywhere. But I can freely say what I think. Ask questions. So, considering Bermunda’s evaluation in the latest CR re. those starting the war. Considering the statements of previous leaders and the Nato-Russia Founding Act (2). Was there really a need for this war? Is there a reason to continue this senseless bloodshed? ============================================ (1) Pres. Yeltsin in 1993 to Pres. Clinton “We understand, of course, that any possible integration of East European countries into Nato will not automatically lead to the alliance somehow turning against Russia but it is important to take into account how our public opinion might react to that step.” (2) Nato-Russia Founding Act This Act, signed in 1997, was a political agreement explicitly stating that: “Nato and Russia do not consider each other as adversaries.” It was followed by the formation of the Nato-Russia Council in 2002 (their latest meeting was in Jan 12, 2022) | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 145 Registered: 09-2021 |
I posted a response to your comment but it didn’t survive. Yes, I’ve been thinking about 249 h.p. as well… The rainbow-salute: It’s not a military thing (not yet) in the sense that you salute everyone above your rank. No, it is salute-oneself; inward; above your heart. It means many things. It is about living up to your true-destiny, here. Looking inwards; going where you need to go, doing what you need to do. I think it’s incredibly powerful. Roll the dice; and we’ll see what happens… I’m essentially regurgitating Billy’s point: “change yourself, change the world.” Your actions effect the universe. And we are universes ourselves. It’s like the Pj’s explained that if the world blows up, it will cause a chain-reaction that would be felt in the Ankar Universe. This is not about flailing about with stars your eyes…well, maybe a little bit of that too… Call me Naïve. I’m doing what I can to lessen these prophecies. I just stumbled into this prophecy; that if I have anything to say about it, is going to unite the planet. And there all sorts, you just have to be perceptive enough to see them. “E Ku ana ka Pa’ia!” “The Wall Will Stand Up-Right!” Period. End of story. If I’m wrong… Well, that’s just the way the cookie crumble’s. But yeah, I’m waiting till fall, of course, purely for scientific purposes. And I’m not “preparing” for spit.  F.e. -Lynxsis-Azam z da Klebvar, iki Prymam a Und z da Zoda! | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 984 Registered: 12-2011 |
Friteeucman I cannot understand your postings please explain? joe | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 1445 Registered: 04-2013 |
If it was not for the U.S.A., NATO would not exist. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. NATO was the first peacetime military alliance the United States entered into outside of the Western Hemisphere. It’s my understanding that after WW-2, the USSR (Joseph Stalin) would not allow Western military bases into its country. The Russia-Putin government is much different than the former but will not allow western military on Russian soil. In my opinion, NATO is a wolf in sheep's clothing, so to say, Putin knows this. It would be unpredicted if Putin was the Russian aggression into other nations. This is more than likely his successor… -------------- Excerpt from the 690th Contact Report: Billy’s opinion of NATO & USA Aggressiveness toward Putin & Russia) https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=FnUEoGMUxkk%3d&tabid=1441&portalid=0&mid=5781 Kenneth | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1911 Registered: 04-2011 |
“…The action regarding a war is completely wrong and imprudent, moreover despising the life of human beings, as well as destructive in all areas of human beings' achievements and nature and its fauna and flora…It cannot be said of the side that has started the war and is now waging it that it is acting rightly, but on the contrary wrongly, illogically, without understanding and unreasonably, as a result of the prevailing inability, the selfish ambitions or aspirations. These have degenerated and are geared towards striving for might and possession, whereby the pathological craving for recognition, the pathological craving for determining and the piercing feeling of revenge as well as the desire to force things are added, which makes it absolutely impossible to have an overview and to judge a matter. (She then explains that not having an overview and not having the ability to rightly judge is “also with all other parties that are involved in the whole thing from the ground up”) (Bermunda in CR 797) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1912 Registered: 04-2011 |
Re. “It starts in summer…” There are now unconfirmed reports (unconfirmed video uploaded last night) that Russian heavy weapons, including missile systems, may have been moved towards the Finnish border. (Message edited by scott on April 13, 2022) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1913 Registered: 04-2011 |
One of Europe’s headline news today: Russian embassy in Bosnia warns of destabilization The head of the UN Office of the High Representative in Bosnia, had (on Tuesday) suspended a law passed which ruled that property used by local public authorities belongs to a semi-autonomous Bosnian Serb region. But it was not the semi-autonomous Bosnian Serbs who spoke up but the Russian Embassy. “The Russian comments highlight a dispute with the West over policies in the volatile Balkans”. CR 215:52 www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 252. Anchored in the Russian will to expand will also be the will of theirs to annex the oil deposits in the Middle East as well as to get into the direct area of South-Eastern Europe, which is why they are also advancing into the Balkans and mercilessly and devastatingly beating the countries there in huge battles with many deaths and destruction. | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Tat_tvam_asi I agree with this. Although I understand the reasoning behind the war, the fact that they chose war to deal with this is still very unsettling for me. I'm not sure how Russia is going to be the peace bringer in all this, all things considered. Maureen | ||
Niko_sulonen Member Post Number: 135 Registered: 11-2008 |
The Russian Armed Forces have been moving their gear up and down the Russian-Finnish border for as long as I can remember, along with sending their fighter jets into Finnish airspace on a regular basis. Nothing new under the sun. In my view that piece of news article is part of the sensationalist fear-driven propaganda that is being insigated by different parties who would like to see Finland as part of NATO. Who benefits from such an outcome I'm sure we can all make a guess. What comes to the Henoch Prophecies, my opinion is that they might not be the most accurate source for future events anymore. For one, they were presented in the 80's when USSR and the Warsaw Pact still existed, and everything was set up for a world war. A lot has changed since then. Secondly, the start of the fulfilling of the Henoch Prophecies were tied to the Prophecy of Popes, which has taken a turn for the better, as Ptaah stated in CR 555 (http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_555) Billy: There is a prophecy about the last Pope. Is there already any indication that this prophecy about a world fire will be fulfilled? Ptaah: 8. Many things have changed in this regard, and they have changed for the better, so there is no indication at the moment that the prophecy will be fulfilled. 9. Of course, a lot can still change, also in a negative way, which could fulfil the prophecy, but as I said, there is no indication at the moment that the prophecy will be fulfilled. But of course as Ptaah said that the possibility for another world war is still very much a possibility and the current situation is alarming. If it were to happen, would it happen exactly as laid out in the Henoch Prophecies? I'm not sure. If Russia were to attack Finland, then even without NATO it would be a tough nut to crack. The landscape is filled with forests and bodies of water, forcing the invader to move through tight corridors creating killzones to be trapped in. Combined with FDF having the largest field artillery in Europe it would be a difficult undertaking. Unlike other European states Finland has maintained a large active and reserve military since the last world wars, with a keen strategy on warding off invasions from the East. As such it is doubtful that Russia would choose Finland as its first target in a full-scale war in Europe, and would rather concentrate it's energy on the more poorly prepared European states. Even the Henoch Prophecies state that only after France has fallen will the combined military forces of Russia and France target Finland. However I recognize that as a Finnish citizen I may be biased towards my own country and as such I'm fully accepting the possibility that I might soon have to eat my own words. Hopefully it won't come to that. Salome, Niko | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1914 Registered: 04-2011 |
Please note: Post 1910 mentioned that there is no mention that any other country comes to their (Finland's / Sweden's) aid. But NATO's aid may be implied by this passage in CR 215: "248. Yet Russia will not rest and will attack Scandinavia, and in doing so will embroil all of Europe." So, even though 84 % of Finns see Russia as a threat, their becoming a NATO member maybe a dangerous move. | ||
Friteeucman Member Post Number: 146 Registered: 09-2021 |
Votan: Take any hand… Now put your pinky to your chest; thumb facing away from your body. That is the rainbow salute. I’m committed to partially nullifying the Henok Prophecy; in-order to fulfill the Kapihe prophecy. It seems like a long-shot, but it is very real. To get from where I am now; to what is prophesied for me…well, it seems impossible. “Some would say; That Rex, has lost, his mind… But I’m choosing to embrace, Creational-Nature-Plan-Divine….” Yada, yada… There’s two prophecies in one: One was uniting the islands; but what he was really talking about; fast-forward 200 years, it is about uniting the planet. And, thus, the Henok Prophecy can not reach the full expression. There are lots of good prophecies, and I know about several of them. But what we are really talking about is this Universal Prophecy; that is going to come to fruition sometime regardless. The Plejaren don’t want the Henok Prophecies to be fulfilled either…but I of course, they have to operate within their guidelines. Which is why we have to think of ways that they can work with us. From questions and answers Nokodiemeon lineage by Christian, p.6-7. “In their knowledge and wisdom it is given that they are also able to make predictions in various dealings and recognise which effects are wrought by what causes, just as they recognise it from the causality of all things. This then gives rise to prophecies, which show that certain effects are brought by certain causes. As a rule, however, only negative effects are prophetically offered for the instruction of human beings, for the purpose that human beings should learn to improve the negative causes through progressive actions, deeds and behaviours, in order to avoid the prophesied negative effects and to effect better and good instead.” Anyway; sooner or later it will become clear who I was in my past-lives and personalities; but I am in no way prepared for this, and in my view it will take years. So yeah, I’m not preparing for shit… (Hey Scott, can I swear on this forum? Idk…but sense the adamancy of my words. It is a crap-shoot if even you will let this though… “Roll the dice; let’s see what happens…” and I’m talking about Way bigger thing here… F.e. P.s: All-Props to the Creation; with Wisdom and Unity to the law(s) of Seven. -Lynxsis-Azam z da Klebvar, iki Prymam a Und z da Zoda! | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1586 Registered: 07-2009 |
Niko, While the Henoch Prophecies were first made known to us, in German, in 1987, they apparently originated many thousands of years ago. That would mean that, since there was nothing specifying any dates (of events, or expiration) it's unlikely the situation pertaining to the Warsaw Pact would be a factor. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1916 Registered: 04-2011 |
@Maureen “Very unsettling”- this is exactly what I do think, too. Edgar Cayce may have mentioned twice (in a 1932 and 1944 reading) “out of Russia will come the hope of the world” (1) and Billy may have endorsed that view (2). But a system of a few extremely rich ruling elites and masses of extremely poor people does not provide any 'hope for mankind'. Neither is this war nor any other war a ‘noble deed”. It is murder of innocent people in the street. Raped women. Killed children. Killing the ‘have to be soldiers’ in the tanks. “Cannon Food”. It all should stop immediately. “Why don’t they talk first?” This is what the majority of the world’s people think. And they are right. As for Edgar Cayce's, Billy's and Ptaah's reasoning - could it be that what we see now is just the chaos that precedes a new order - stirring up the minds to think differently. to value the dignity of life”? ================================================= (1) Edgar Cayce In Russia there comes the hope of the world, not as that sometimes termed of the Communistic, of the Bolshevistic; no. But freedom, freedom! that each man will live for his fellow man! The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallized, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world. (Reading 3976-29) (2) Billy in Bulletin 1 www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_001 "…, because I know very well that this country and its human beings are the ones from whom real peace for many peoples will come out of. A fact which has already begun to prove to be true with Gorbachev, Glasnost and Perestroika and with the abolishment of communism. Already 'the sleeping prophet, Edgar Cayce' wrote the following words about this: "Out of Russia's development greater hope will grow for the world. Then the one and the group who have closer ties with Russia will be able to achieve step by step changes and the definitive definitions of conditions in respect of the world rule." I pondered this prophecy thoroughly and made preliminary assessments that confirmed Edgar Cayce's statement. Subsequently, I approached Ptaah and discussed this subject matter with him, whereupon he, too, researched the future and came to the same conclusion. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1917 Registered: 04-2011 |
@Niko Thank you, Niko. You may be right in today’s “propaganda news” information may not always be “just information”. And in a world of “super-/I-everything” exaggerations are ‘in (vogue)’. But Russia’s invasion of Ukraine shows that even a potential NATO membership may lead to war. And the highlighted “disputes with the West over policies in the volatile Balkans” - don’t they awaken memories of pre-WW2 (1914-18)? The push to “annex all the lands with our people” – does it not have all the hallmarks of pre-WW3 (1939-1945) happenings? Yes, the Henoch Prophecies are very old but we are warned that should the thinking of mankind not change then they will come true (1). And it may well be that this is what Billy meant when he told Bermunda: “This (the Ukraine War) will lead to …. “. And there may be a different reason to consider: Quetzal tells us (2) that through the Henoch Prophecies coming true “The full truth about our contacts with you will be proven in the distant future”. I may not be able to change all that is to happen. But from my heart I do wish that you and all the good Finnish people will be able to live in peace. Salome, Bill (1) Quetzal re. Henoch Prophecies CR 215 www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 151. So when I make a portion of Henoch's prophecies for the third millennium known to you, it does not mean that they have to be fulfilled, because the prerequisite of fulfilment in each case would be that the already existing causes continue to exist as also continue to be created in the future so that a fulfilment of the prophecies can come to pass. 152. Thus, the possibility always exists- always provided that the human being of the Earth becomes reasonable, that through a reasonable change of thinking as well as through a reasonable development in feeling and an equally reasonable conduct, everything changes for the good, better and positive, whereby the prophecies do not have to fulfil themselves. 153. However, if this transformation does not occur, a very evil, wicked and negative time lies ahead for the Earth and its entire population in the coming new millennium. 155. Your optimism is honourable and deserves to be heard by human beings, but the manner in which things have been going throughout this century there is not too much hope that the human beings of the Earth will come to their senses and heed your words. 156. This will then be the case only when the prophecies prove to be true or, even worse, have already come to pass. (2) Verification of Billy and the Plejaren Contacts 157. Probably only then will the time come when the defamations against you will end in regard to your contacts with us, although they will long continue to be vehemently disputed by your enemies as well as by pathological know-it-alls and critics who dismiss them as swindle, lies and fraud. 158. The full truth about our contacts with you will be proven in the distant future, and then humankind will accept our help which we offer through you, | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 82 Registered: 09-2020 |
@Tat_tvam_asi It does make sense. I don't doubt the information. It was just difficult to make sense of. There's always a reason why Billy doesn't give all the information. It's left to us to use our thoughts to figure it out as well as Billy protecting himself from divulging in too much. He's already had several attempts at his life. He doesn't need to escalate his demise. It seems that previous Russian leaders (as well at the current one) have been stepping stones to the future peace that will begin with Russia. We may not be alive to see this come to fruition but it is on the track to becoming. Maureen | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 985 Registered: 12-2011 |
Hi Scott its not easy to find the flat earth theory on the search engine. Do you know what Billy said about this as he has left earth a number of times. joe | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1939 Registered: 04-2011 |
To better understand Billy ... ... one must empathize with how he feels having experienced of what is to come for certain. He may not be allowed to say it but in his emotions he expresses this knowledge. It may seem a little early but for the safety of any reader it may be right to repeat what we know from CR 251 "But if man does not act against the fulfilment of prophecy, then a new and very destructive new weapon will find its perfection, which will cause devastating consequences at the next world war. This can also happen because the surveillance of Earth from space is criminally neglected. And again new weapons will be talked about as well as the death of four heads of state who will die within seven days. This will be a last sign of danger of the fact that the world war that has been feared for so long will still break out within only about two years if Earth-humans do not finally become masters of reason and stop all evil. If this does not happen, the people will no longer benefit when they try to protest against the new, lethal weapons in order to outlaw them, because the arsenals of weapons in many countries will then already be full of them. So it will no longer be of any use if laws are subsequently drawn up prohibiting the use of these weapons." http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251 | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 190 Registered: 04-2020 |
"...a new and very destructive new weapon will find its perfection, which will cause devastating consequences at the next world war. This can also happen because the surveillance of Earth from space is criminally neglected." I've often wondered if that could be referring to cyberspace/computer systems hacking, etc. Everything run by computer systems: the power grid, internet, banking, commerce, etc. if hacked externally, perhaps by satellite, could totally disrupt and paralyze an entire nation. The passage goes on to talk about more than one type, "...And again new weapons will be talked about" I must say, there are a lot of new types of weapons out there now - sonic, EMF pulsed, etc., that have found their way into the news that it makes you wonder how many are still top secret that we still don't know anything about. That being said, you have to also wonder that they may be much preferred to getting your point across over using nuclear weapons with its' fallout that gets in the atmosphere and negatively affects even the perpetrator. Bob |
