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Norm
| Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 05:03 pm: |
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Is Billy working on any booklets or info on Politics & Governments? I don't want to vote for Socialist type parties, because I think Communism/Socialism doesn't work in its current forum. Capitialism seems to also not be working for everyone. Then we have this Globalist Movement by the Worlds Governments that are pushing a Capitalist/Socialist New World Order system on the world. I am politically lost. I hope Billy will share his Ideas on Politics with us. |
   
James Roy Mizar
| Posted on Friday, November 03, 2000 - 10:43 am: |
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I also share norms view, though I would like to say that I remember reading about that the government desision process should be unanamous instead of a majority!! Salome James I would also like to know what the differences between the 2? |
   
Norm
| Posted on Friday, November 03, 2000 - 02:29 pm: |
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James, I think we need more direction for Earth. The unanimous Plejaren system will probably not work for Earth at this time. |
   
Scott Baxter
| Posted on Friday, November 03, 2000 - 02:44 pm: |
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Hello I tend to shy away from politics of any sort, mainly for the reason that they mainly are designed to serve those in control. If you listen to the Presidential debates they invaribly always revolve around money and economics. The state of the union address given each year again consistently revolves around monetary issues. When I listen to the various canidates I truthfully cant tell one from the other and it seems these days many of them possess very little wisdom, which is sad because we need leaders that show inspiration and the willingness to really stand up to all of the BS going on. Yes we need some type of structure, but what that is Im not completely sure. Yes I believe the core group in Switzerland will have a unanamous vote before anything is passed. Im not sure of the logic behind this, maybe each persons vote is considered as valuable as the next so if their is any disagreement, that person can either be talked into changing their mind based on a logical argument or they can convince the group to change its mind. Im not positive on this, but those are my thoughts. Salome Scott |
   
Roy Smith
| Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 09:30 am: |
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...[Comments shortened -- Applicable under German law.] Thanks be to bastions of liberty such as the internet and forums such as this one. There is hope in expansion of consciousness. In Creation, Roy Smith |
   
Marc Juliano
| Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 04:11 pm: |
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Hello All, As part of moderating the Forum, I will occasionally need to shorten posts in order to preserve a focus in topics. This, particularly with regard to posts that contain long lists of possible government conspiracies and presidential elections allegedly under "mind control", etc. Please keep in mind: This is only a step to keep posts within the boundries of their topic and for presentation on FIGU's Discussion Board. Thanks, Marc |
   
James the truthseeker
| Posted on Saturday, November 04, 2000 - 05:19 pm: |
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Greetings All, Here is an idea for the discussion Board. Lets see if we can formulate ideas for a "constitution for earth" based upon the spiritual teaching of Billy & the Plejarans. Once this gets started, I have many ideas. Just like there is a 12 step program for codependency, perhaps there can be a twelve step program for humanity. Perhaps then humanity will take reponsibily for itself. Some ideas are; - eliminate the borders of all the countries of the Earth. - world wide emotional heath care, along with physical health care. Rehabilitation centers. - elimination of the barter-monitary system, and replaced with Autonomism. - A global investigation of all religions, cults, governments, skepticisms, and institutions. - replace all governments with a global councel of spiritual and social wisdom. Advisers and seers of wisdom for all individuals of humanity. - global teaching of self awareness; relating to issues of self importance, to being the self without having to prove oneself all the time to others, and understanding how to resolve conflicts of interests. - creative motivated education in all areas of life instead of forced stressed out education. - learning thinking skills, thinking for the self and correct decision making. - etc. Perhaps then we can go from being consumers of society, to being contributors of society. Peace in Wisdom, James, the truthseeker. |
   
Michael Davo
| Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 10:33 pm: |
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Hello, Lingering uncertainty concerning the outcome of the current Presidential election stimulated the recall of a comment from Randolph Winters' book "The Pleiadian Mission." Mr. Winters made the comment that "President Clinton may well be the last president elected in our normal manner." This comment appears under the section of Pleiadian Prophecy. Long ago I discounted this so-called prophecy as hogwash, but events of the day may prove otherwise. Does anyone know if this prophecy can truly be attributed to the Pleiadians? Best regards, Michael Davo |
   
Savio
| Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 12:52 am: |
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Hello I heard that Netherland legalized Euthanasia recently. I am struggling on whether it is meaningful to let the patients to continue suffering huge endless pain or let them die as they wanted to. Any comment? Savio |
   
Anthea
| Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 11:18 am: |
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Hi Savio , I think that Euthanasia is probably comparable to murder and suicide as it would interfere with the individual's evolution. If this is so it would mean that the Netherlands' Government is heaping plenty of guilt upon itself for committing, or allowing to be committed, murder and/or suicide. It could be termed "false humanitarianism". Kind Regards, Anthea |
   
Savio
| Posted on Friday, December 15, 2000 - 02:22 am: |
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Hi Anthea I know I have to agree with you, this is a matter of basic principle But I cannot help thinking: what is the good for staying alive in such miserable condition? I think it must be that the Value of "staying alive" is higher than that of "early life termination of a hopeless patient" either in materialistic or spiritual point of view. However, I cannot think of any materialistic value for staying alive like this, please advise if there is any. As for spiritual value, it must be the spiritual evolution of the patient. However, Jmmanuel mentioned in TJ 6-51: "Truly, I say unto you: If you suffer from hunger, thirst and nakedness, the wisdom and knowledge will be crowded out by worry." I think physical pain will also affect a person in the same way or must worse. It seems there is not much value in either way, if I were the hopeless patient, I find it would be difficult to convince myself to stay alive. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Savio |
   
Anthea
| Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 09:54 am: |
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Hi Savio, No, you don't have to agree with me ... this discussion forum is really just a platform for sharing views and opinions about the Teachings, Billy and the Plejarens. "FIGU in a Nutshell" states the following: "50. We stand fully behind the concept that human beings are given life in order to fully live it in an evolutionary manner within the framework of self-responsibility and all other human obligations. No entitlements exist to circumvent the above-mentioned duties -- neither through shirking of responsibilities nor through murder, suicide or the refusal to fulfill the duties imposed by life." For me "self-responsibility" is a key word here. Kind Regards, Anthea |
   
Anthea
| Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 10:00 am: |
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Hi again Savio, A further comment to my previous post. In the TJ 26:51-63 Jmmanuel speaks at length about suicide, and mentions mercy killers. I am sure you would find this an enlightening study. Kind Regards, Anthea |
   
Savio
| Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 07:36 am: |
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Hi Anthea I went through the TJ26:51-63 as you mentioned. I am convinced with the words TJ26:53 "The intent of the laws is such that the human being lives his life to the end so that he may perfect his spirit in this manner" Thank you Savio |
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